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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Mon Nov 8 14:27:38 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 &#224; 13:46 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:46, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 8 November 2010 13:41, Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Michael Scherer said on Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:37:44PM +0100:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Well, a flat or a directory like structure for perf reason, yes. But it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; was discussed some years ago on maintainers@, and so I think this was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; raised as well, except that I do not remind the outcome. Spuk did the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; work, so you need to ask him.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well, I thought that a new distro could afford discussing again some of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the choices that have prooved to be problematic in the past thus my msg.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm not sure that history is so important that opinion of people who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; will manage that in the future.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IIUC, history in this contest means &quot;the reasoning behind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rejecting/accepting it&quot;, i.e. instead of doing the research from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; scratch we can take it from where it ended the last time it was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussed and re-evaluate the pros and cons.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Right, but again, is there a doc or a pointer to that? Because a
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;remembered point of view&quot; holds for nothing. Thank you Google, here
+</I>&gt;<i> it is: <A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/maintainers/2007-12/msg00198.php">http://lists.mandriva.com/maintainers/2007-12/msg00198.php</A> .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either way we are going, it should be at least documented and (a
+</I>&gt;<i> little bit) argumented, especially if it get debatable.
+</I>
+When I was tasked with blino and boklm ( or teuf ) to take care of this
+part, we were told that the priority was to have something soon so we
+can have a iso out in less than 6 months, so
+1) we are not seen as vaporware
+2) group other than packagers are able to start their work.
+3) the full process of doing a release can be validated and documented
+before being changed
+
+We can of course rediscuss the build system before deploying ( last
+time, it took something like 2 months ) and then wait on people sending
+patchs ( last time, it also took a lots of time, proof is that mdv still
+use the old BS ).
+
+Or we can simply deploy what we have, as this is the fastest option.
+
+So if anybody want to make change right now, no problem, just send
+patchs against the puppet configuration ( who is on
+<A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/">svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/</A> for anonymous checkout ), we will review
+and apply them.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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