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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 25 14:50:35 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>2010/10/25 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2010/10/25 atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3- A dialog popup appears and asks if he/she wans to select language
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4- If an active internet connection detected &#160;notifies users that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> selected languge will downloaded from net otherwise user use live
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system in English.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As mobile machines (laptops, netbooks) are more and more replacing the
+</I>&gt;<i> normal home machine (see sales figures all over the world) we have to
+</I>&gt;<i> take into account that more and more home internet connections are
+</I>&gt;<i> running without restricting cables, aka WiFi (not to mention being on
+</I>&gt;<i> the road). So, either make WiFi available automatically at
+</I>&gt;<i> installation time (which is not trivial or even may not be possible)
+</I>&gt;<i> or make locales available at installation time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Whatever installation method you use, it has to be available in the
+</I>&gt;<i> user's language, otherwise he will not install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, this is a no-go for the live CD as a demo asset. How could a
+</I>&gt;<i> user evaluate Mageia when he doesn't understand the language because
+</I>&gt;<i> there is only WiFI around at the moment he has time to look at the CD?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I don' t agree, sorry. Live CDs are not demo assets for most of the
+people other than europe or america. Their relatively small size and
+installation capability make them an installation media for limited
+internet users. Most people do not want to install a DVD.
+
+Also, you haven't noticed but Mandriva One, have an rpm macro that
+strips all language files those not included in One. (because of lack
+of space on cd) And users must install all applications, including
+system packages, i.e. initscripts again to get their native language
+support. Look at mandriva translation statistics and see yourself that
+waste majority of languages not supporting enough (lack of
+translators, of course). For those using a live cd is a pain. I know
+that because before my translation efforts for two years and turkish
+supported One editions (after 2009.0 release); turkish users could not
+use One Cd releases.
+
+Also, i have proposed that draktools lang files should be included in
+all available languages to avoid those problems you have mentioned.
+net_apple will in users language and user can establish wi-fi by it.
+Thats all.
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