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The point is that our mirror is hosted on a private +</I>><i> >> server where just one person is liable (me, unfortunately). But we +</I>><i> > wobo, I perfectly understand your reasons +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IANAL, but as far as I know U.S. law exempts hosting sites from +</I>><i> liability for things coming from the outside, provided they take the +</I>><i> offending material down if the content owner requests it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, there are some differences between that situation and this one. +</I>><i> +</I> +well, this issue cannot be thought only from a user point of view that can +assume which mirror he chooses to install from and assume the risk of using +the software. + +As misc stated it, this is the responsibility of the association, who is +subject to international treaties in the end, first responsibilities being +taken by local mirror who will be taking counsel upstream. I've followed +debian-legal for more than 6 months in 2005/2006 and remembered one thing: +the only responsibility you take is choosing to *distribute* something that +can impact others with your _knowing_ that it will impact them ; we can't +take the responsibility for not knowing and we should manage +questions/requests/DMCA requests with a published and understood management +of the issue (some requests are out of topic or not relevant, it exists as +well). +Hence, it's the responsibility of upstream distribution to have a clear +policy (that means us), if possible. Some do not mind, some like debian or +RedHat take it the paranoid^Wcollaborative way (think rpmfusion, marillat +repositories or plf if you understand the personnal implications). +ATM, it's important imho to document the state of the art, acting as a +responsible new distribution, seeking advice and opinions (some of us +alluded to fsf or fsfe, if Eben Moglen were to give us a go I will follow +him of course). Provision to address legal problems is a sane state of mind, +as long as it's realistic and balances pros and cons. +So, just for the moment, do not take reserves as "won't go" but as "not +ready to assume", please provide as much information to enhance the current +situation and build the better distribution for our users, based on factual +references. +I try to follow it up with a global context at +<A HREF="http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/Blog20101002MageiaLegalManagement">http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/Blog20101002MageiaLegalManagement</A> and +specific difficulties regarding distribution at +<A HREF="http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/Blog20101013MageiaLegallyGreyPackages(feel">http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/Blog20101013MageiaLegallyGreyPackages(feel</A> +free to comment or update, as it's a wiki, remain factual and +documented though). + +@++ +Ben'. aka baud123 + + +@++ +Ben'. aka baud123 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101019/94b89cfb/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001281.html">[Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from? 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+</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> By commenting when adding an Obsoletes ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Another a way to do it could be svn annotate *.spec + grep Obsoletes + +</I>><i>look for revision older than a given one +</I>the problem with this is relating a svn revision to a released distro +also we have an svn epoch, when the package was first imported. + +i just found: +% svn annotate bacula.spec + 927 root # fix conditional pam config file + 927 root %if %{mdkversion} < 200610 + 927 root bzcat %{SOURCE6} > bacula.pam + 927 root %else + 927 root bzcat %{SOURCE7} > bacula.pam + 927 root %endif + +i think this could go. + +(btw, bacula from 2010.1 builds correctly on 2006.0 if you disable the +qt gui components) + + +L. + + +-- +Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1281">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1281">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1281">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1281">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101019/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101019/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9339b1492 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101019/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 19 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>19 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Oct 19 02:53:54 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Oct 19 07:11:14 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 2<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A><A NAME="1280"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001281.html">[Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from? 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