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I think it is best if these are not +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > How do you expect Mageia to verify each single package to make sure it +</I>><i> > complies with the laws in ALL countries of the world? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, because we can't comply with all laws in all coutnries, we should +</I>><i> violate everyone we possibly can? +</I> +Because we can't be aware of all laws in all countries, we should do nothing ? +(after all that's the best way to break no law at all !) + +><i> +</I>><i> > Mageia should make sure that the packages comply with French law, but +</I>><i> > that's it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If Mageia wants mirrors in countries with strong IP protection laws +</I>><i> (including copyright, software patent) and anti-circumvention laws, then +</I>><i> IMHO, there does need to be a split, so mirror maintainers can decide +</I>><i> which risks they can accept. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example, in the DMCA case, I believe US mirrors hosting libdvdcss could +</I>><i> be vulnerable. +</I> +There are mirrors of plf in USA, there is at least one mirror of ArchLinux in +USA that provides libdvdcss, there is at least one mirror of Linux Mint in the +USA that provides libdvdcss, there is PCLinuxOS based in USA (Texas ?) that +provides libdvdcss + +VLC is available in USA to download (cnet.com) and VLC provides its own lib +for decoding (and coding) multimedia files (and from what i know, windows +binaries come with libdvdcss) + +><i> +</I>><i> > You can still install Mageia and then remove the packages that are +</I>><i> > problematic in your country, I very much doubt your laws are that +</I>><i> > draconian that you can't even do that. +</I>><i> > Mageia could include an option during install to exclude the well-known +</I>><i> > problematic packages from installation to make this easier for people +</I>><i> > that live in countries with restrictive laws. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where the +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is a major hassle for new/inexperienced users and IMHO should be +</I>><i> > avoided. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe it can be improved *to some extent*, by asking the user if they want +</I>><i> to add additional repositories. +</I> +We cannot ask users to add third-part repos. We have discussing about Mageia +repos, policies of third-part repos should not be in our discussion. + +><i> +</I>><i> > > If Mageia packages include unlicensed software and codecs, the Mageia +</I>><i> > > brand may be held legally responsible for marketing software in +</I>><i> > > countries where the laws do not permit this. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is nonsense, Mageia can only be held responsible in France based on +</I>><i> > French law (as long as Mageia isn't planning subsidiaries in outher +</I>><i> > countries, which IMHO is unlikely and completely unnecessary for a +</I>><i> > non-profit association). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anssi discussed various reasons packages aren't in Main or Contrib in +</I>><i> Mandriva, and you devolve this discussion to be purely about software +</I>><i> patents. However, the issues are: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -non-free software for which we have no re-distribution license (e.g. +</I>><i> Flash, we may be able to request a license, but most likely it would not +</I>><i> allow Mageia to distribute a distribution license to 3rd parties - +</I>><i> specifically mirrors). +</I> +The question of non-free softwares is simple. Either Mageia can add them on a +non-free repos, either it cannot. + +The problem is around free softwares (free as free speech) that may violate IP +and that is depending of local laws. There are also free softwares that may +violate local laws (cryptography, rules for exportation for example). About +the latter question, OpenBSD is established in Canada to avoid some US rules +about exportation + +><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Buchan +</I> +Olivier +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1130">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1130">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1130">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1130">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |