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I think it is best if these are not +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How do you expect Mageia to verify each single package to make sure it +</I>><i> complies with the laws in ALL countries of the world? +</I> +So, because we can't comply with all laws in all coutnries, we should violate +everyone we possibly can? + +><i> Mageia should make sure that the packages comply with French law, but +</I>><i> that's it. +</I> +If Mageia wants mirrors in countries with strong IP protection laws (including +copyright, software patent) and anti-circumvention laws, then IMHO, there does +need to be a split, so mirror maintainers can decide which risks they can +accept. + +For example, in the DMCA case, I believe US mirrors hosting libdvdcss could be +vulnerable. + +><i> You can still install Mageia and then remove the packages that are +</I>><i> problematic in your country, I very much doubt your laws are that +</I>><i> draconian that you can't even do that. +</I>><i> Mageia could include an option during install to exclude the well-known +</I>><i> problematic packages from installation to make this easier for people that +</I>><i> live in countries with restrictive laws. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where the +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is a major hassle for new/inexperienced users and IMHO should be +</I>><i> avoided. +</I> +Maybe it can be improved *to some extent*, by asking the user if they want to +add additional repositories. + +><i> > If Mageia packages include unlicensed software and codecs, the Mageia +</I>><i> > brand may be held legally responsible for marketing software in +</I>><i> > countries where the laws do not permit this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is nonsense, Mageia can only be held responsible in France based on +</I>><i> French law (as long as Mageia isn't planning subsidiaries in outher +</I>><i> countries, which IMHO is unlikely and completely unnecessary for a +</I>><i> non-profit association). +</I> +Anssi discussed various reasons packages aren't in Main or Contrib in +Mandriva, and you devolve this discussion to be purely about software patents. +However, the issues are: + +-non-free software for which we have no re-distribution license (e.g. Flash, +we may be able to request a license, but most likely it would not allow Mageia +to distribute a distribution license to 3rd parties - specifically mirrors). + +-free software which violates anti-circumvention or other copyright protection +laws (e.g. libdvdcss, libaacs, libbdplus etc.) + +-free software which infringes software patents + +Let's discuss the first two issues as well, as they can't be dismissed, and +put real risk to anyone distributing the software (magazines, mirrors, sites +selling DVDs) + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1127">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1127">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1127">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1127">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |