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I think it is best if these are +</I>>><i> not installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where +</I>>><i> the PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If Mageia packages include unlicensed software and codecs, the Mageia +</I>>><i> brand may be held legally responsible for marketing software in +</I>>><i> countries where the laws do not permit this. I don't really think +</I>>><i> would be a wise decision. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> Canada +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> The problem with a modification of packages with PLF post an initial +</I>><i> install is that we are not absolutely sure to clean/drop/definitively +</I>><i> destroy the "patent compliant packages" ... the dependencies between rpm +</I>><i> are in cause. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have not done the count, but often it is not possible for me to +</I>><i> uninstall certain packages because after installation they come in the +</I>><i> dependencies of others. But the unique reason of presence is not because +</I>><i> they are usefull, but only this binding dependencies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think now to a sort of option to choice just at the beginning of first +</I>><i> install. A question like : "Do you need patent free packages or want you +</I>><i> cool packages" ? +</I>><i> - If response 1 : Mageia install only the legal compliances packages, +</I>><i> - if 2 ... the legal packages are not installed and we have the easy to +</I>><i> use package for easy to use OS (VLC with DVD for example, nvidia drivers). +</I>><i> With that, all the world is satisfied ;-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it possible ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Hi Lucien, this is not directed to you but to the discussion on this thread: + +There was actually nothing wrong with the Mandriva treatment of repos. +It clearly satisfied everyone's expectation of their installation. It +became a matter of user choice. By installing, by default, non-licensed +software you are not giving the user the choice. You are then targeting +a group of users who can install without legal consequence. If Mageia.ca +or Mageia.us etc. decided to organize, then as entities, they would then +become liable for the publication of illegal software. In Canada, they +are a little more lenient than in the US. I cannot imagine anyone +organising such a group in the US where they would accept liability for +this. + +If there is a choice of installing non-licensed software, then it should +be done at the user level and not at the Mageia level. Non-licensed +software will not be accepted by any educational establishments, +business, government, associations ... + +The safest route is to offer FOSS software (they are well known and many +have had their code audited) and leave the "fringe" softs on a repo that +is left to the users' choice as install. + +I thought that PLF were on board with the Mageia project. Does anyone know? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001096.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001104.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1102">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1102">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1102">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1102">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |