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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Thu Oct 7 11:36:41 CEST 2010</I>
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+Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 11:20:04, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> The fact that almost no-one on this list seems to have known about backports
+</I>&gt;<i> at all doesn't mean that the backports feature is not useful, it may be that
+</I>&gt;<i> it wasn't accessible enough to end users.
+</I>
++1
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+&gt;<i> Now, maybe the user interface needs to be improved. For example, maybe there
+</I>&gt;<i> should be no dropdown box, but instead when searching for a package by name,
+</I>&gt;<i> it should show you all the versions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ============================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> Find: | digikam | In: -&gt;Graphical applications |By: -&gt;Package Name
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Package| |Status | Action
+</I>&gt;<i> +digikam |Security update recommended |Update |
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1.3.0-1mdv |Installed |Uninstall |
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1.3.0-1.1mdv |Security Update |Update |
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1.4.0-4mdv |Unsupported upgrade (backport) |Upgrade |
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> digikam - A KDE ........
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> =============================================================================
+</I>
++1
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alternatively, maybe a &quot;What's new&quot; view?
+</I>
+Oh yes, let's do it !
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe a rating/voting/popularity system should be available, however in the
+</I>&gt;<i> past people had complained about privacy issues, which I think may have
+</I>&gt;<i> resulted in little effort being put into completion of drakstats.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, maybe a web site should also be developed, which allows users to also
+</I>&gt;<i> access package rating information, and which provides some kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> installation feature.
+</I>
+Yes this web site could :
+- allow package rating
+- show download stats (if possible)
+- show recent versions updates (with the highest rating packages more visible than an obscure lib :))
+- allow backport / new package requests (I know, bugzilla used to be the place where you did that previously, but can't we find a way to link both). This way packagers would have more visibility on the user's needs.
+
+&gt;<i> I think one problem Mandriva had was that users refused to believe that:
+</I>&gt;<i> -Mandriva was open
+</I>&gt;<i> -Contributors could easily improve the distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> -Mandriva probably already had most of what they wanted, and if it didn't,
+</I>&gt;<i> they should do what they can do to help
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, many people complained about bugs that get no attention, but *1*
+</I>&gt;<i> contributor managed to change that perception to some extent. However, if more
+</I>&gt;<i> people contributed, more bugs would actually be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva the company may have been a barrier to contribution to some, and I
+</I>&gt;<i> think one of the most important aspects of Mageia is ensuring that
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors know exactly what happens to their contribution, and knowing that
+</I>&gt;<i> the financial state of a company does not impact the future availability of
+</I>&gt;<i> the project to which they contributed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK, buchan, how do we start ? Shall we put improvements proposals (UI, website, ...) on the wiki, on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate</A> ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem is to make it *easier* for users to get new versions of software,
+</I>&gt;<i> not to force everyone to upgrade constantly.
+</I>
++1
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+Samuel
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