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The same +</I>>>>><i> applies for a company, servers... etc. We aren't talking only about +</I>>>>><i> personal boxes that can break without too much drastic consequences. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> No need to update. What on earth is that feeling that a rolling distro +</I>>>><i> forces users to update ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Really? they wouldn't be interested in security updates at all? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I just say that updating is not something imposed, you are free to update or +</I>><i> not to update, you are free to just install security updates. Either under +</I>><i> fixed or rolling no one is imposed to do updates. When reading the topic i get +</I>><i> the feeling that some think that rolling distro means to be forced to do +</I>><i> updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Again a rolling distro is something that's not clearly defined. And to +</I>>>>><i> be honest, a rolling distro isn't suitable for new or inexperienced +</I>>>>><i> users. Simply because you can't guarantee that a new package won't +</I>>>>><i> introduce regressions (or totally break an app), in this case an +</I>>>>><i> experienced user will know how to revert to an older version, a new or +</I>>>>><i> inexperienced user won't. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Look at the rolling distros that've been mentioned, Debian or Gentoo, +</I>>>>><i> right? would anyone recommend Debian or Gentoo for a +</I>>>>><i> new/inexperienced/non-power user? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> PCLinuxOS is a rolling distro and is to inexperienced users. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Olivier +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> And nothing breaks? no critical apps get broken in that model? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Personally I haven't use PCLinuxOS before, so can't tell for sure; my +</I>>><i> guess would be yes, stuff break because new versions are prone to +</I>>><i> introduce regressions. Note that this happens in cooker, which is +</I>>><i> indeed a rolling distro. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> From what i've heard (mainly former users of Mandriva who switched to PCLOS +</I>><i> because they did not want to change their distro every 6 months while wishing +</I>><i> to have up-to-date softwares) there is no major break. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Rolling distro does not mean no test for updates or no development version. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I find it odd for a user llike me to read that we can have a rolling +</I>><i> distribution unstable, but we can't have a stable rolling distribution +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olivier +</I>><i> +</I>The point is that to ensure that the distro collectively is stable, is a +lot more work than just ensuring that each single application works. +There are a lot of factors, such as timing and interaction between +modules that come into play. The advantage of periodic releases is that +these problems tend to get resolved. +If there is a constant flux of applications, that will be much less the +case. +If you are worried about updating as often (although it isn't a +difficult process), you can always update the distro release once every +12, 18, or 24 months, and depend on security and bug updates (of +course), and whatever backport and other updates wanted in the interim. +The advantage of the current system is that the various applications are +much more likely to play nicely together. + +By the way, I do understand that many users have limited bandwidth for +download. +Maybe some sort of program to distribute Mageia DVDs - for a nominal fee +to cover costs - would be a good idea. + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000938.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000940.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#939">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#939">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#939">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#939">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |