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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Various proposals around backports and other media management</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 6 12:20:54 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 &#224; 23:06 +0100, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:46:45 Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; Some user communities already did that for 3rd party
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repositories for Mandriva, and having it in a centralized and visible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; place would make backports more visible. How many users know that latest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; versions for wine, wesnoth (one of the best opensource games), vlc, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; many other packages are already available in backports media for mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ? Today there is a changelog mailing list, but this is not for everyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This would be more user-centric than packager-centric. I tried to improve
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backports visibility on the Mandriva forum, but without any automation it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; took an enormous amount of time to maintain :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewforum.php?f=123">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewforum.php?f=123</A> (see threads beginning with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;New Soft&quot; or &quot;Backport&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> RSS feed or use of twitter by build system may be useful ....
+</I>
+Youri already have RSS, afaik.
+<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/submit/trunk/lib/Youri/Submit/Step/Action/RSS.pm?revision=2100&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/submit/trunk/lib/Youri/Submit/Step/Action/RSS.pm?revision=2100&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+Twitter/statusnet could be easy to add , according to
+<A HREF="http://status.net/wiki/Libraries">http://status.net/wiki/Libraries</A> , this would quite trivial
+
+I even think that a plugin to post on a forum could be done. A little
+bit less trivial, but I am ok to work on it, once everything we have is
+running.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - (the biggest part, but the one with most long term benefits I hope) add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; metadata to media to make urpmi more media-aware. Today, rpmdrake detects
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backports because the backports media have &quot;backports&quot; in their name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's a (useful) hack, but we could do better. One solution could be to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; give metadata to each media : * release vs updates vs backports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * testing vs stable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * debug vs non-debug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Combination of these &quot;tags&quot; would give the following media :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * main release (just like today's media)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * main updates
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * main updates testing : for update candidates, this is our current
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;main testing&quot; media * main backports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * main backports testing : for backports candidates (as someone who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; frequently does backports, I sometimes feel the lack for it)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In Mandriva,
+</I>&gt;<i> I think there were some uploads to backports before the upload to cooker,
+</I>&gt;<i> which can cause problems for users if not corrected.
+</I>
+We have solved the problem at PLF by forcing build to appear in cooker
+first. It is just a youri plugin.
+
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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