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Every +</I>><i> > > 6th months a release or one year and one release. I think we should +</I>><i> > > make one release in one year. By doing so devs and translators won't +</I>><i> > > be in rush in every 6 months. Also there are major changes like +</I>><i> > > systemd/upstart; those system related things will be more mature in a +</I>><i> > > year to use. It makes the distro more stable and decraese mirrors +</I>><i> > > space waste. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > One more thing. Do we follow Mandriva's release naming scheme? I.e. do +</I>><i> > > we call our first release 2011.x ? I don't like this naming scheme and +</I>><i> > > suggesting using number of release as naming like Mageia 1.0 or using +</I>><i> > > code names. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > What's your opinion? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) I do not +</I>><i> > think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my +</I>><i> > computer, so wish i could not spend time installing a distribution every +</I>><i> > 6 months or every year. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Could we have a different approach? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As a computers professional I love the idea of upgrading my distro's +</I>><i> version every 6 months, but as a teacher, I simply can't do that, (maybe I +</I>><i> only can do that every two years) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But in my two personalities I want (and in determinated circumstances I +</I>><i> simply need them) some programs running in its latest versions +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A different approach could be a "light rolling distro", let me explain. A +</I>><i> distro with a selected number of programs updated regular as their new +</I>><i> versions are available. +</I> +This is already available, via backports. + +However, changing to a "light" rolling distro would force other users, who +don't necessarily want these updates (or, don't want to pay for all the +bandwidth for these updates, because they are happy with the version they +have) to download them. + +><i> Other distros are now trying this model, only for browsers as I now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can run a poll for select what are the programs in that list, and then +</I>><i> the devel team must tell us what programs can be upgraded due technical +</I>><i> reasons and what programs can't do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My own favourites list is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Openoffice (LibreOficce?) +</I> +So, you want to force everyone to download 300MB of packages, because you want +a few new features? + +2009.1 got a security update from 3.0.1 to 3.1.1. + +If you want newer, use binaries from <A HREF="http://download.openoffice.org/">http://download.openoffice.org/</A> + +><i> Firefox +</I> +3.6.10 available for 2010.0 and 2010.1 in updates + +If you want newer, use binaries from getfirefox.com ... oh wait, there isn't a +newer firefox ... + +><i> Chromium-Browser +</I> +7.0.530 available for 2010.0 and 2010.1 in backports + +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=chromium-">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=chromium-</A> +browser&st=rpmname + +><i> Gimp +</I> +2.6.11 is in backports for 2010.1 (which shipped with 2.6.8). + +><i> Netbeans +</I> +cooker isn't even current ... + +><i> Gambas2 +</I> +2.21.0 is in cooker and in backports for 2010.1 and 2010.0 and 2.20.0 is +available back to 2009.0: + +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=gambas2&st=rpmname">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=gambas2&st=rpmname</A> + +><i> Lazarus/fpc +</I> +0.9.28.2 in backports for 2010.1 to 2009.1: +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=lazarus&st=rpmname">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=lazarus&st=rpmname</A> + +><i> VLC +</I> +1.1.4 is available for 2010.1, 2010.0 and 2009.0 in backports +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=vlc&st=rpmname">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=vlc&st=rpmname</A> + +><i> Openshot +</I> +2010.0 got a backport of 1.1.3, I don't know if there are obstacles to +backporting 1.2.x to 2010.0 and older. + +><i> Wine +</I> +1.3.4 is available for 2010.1 and 2010.0 in backports: +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=wine&st=rpmname">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpmfind?distrib=Mandriva&version=&arch=&search=wine&st=rpmname</A> + +So, of your list of 10 apps, 1 is up-to-date in updates, 6 are up-to-date in +backports (at least for 2010.1, 5 are up-to-date in 2010.0), 1 has had at +least one backport, 1 isn't even up-to-date in cooker, and the biggest one at +300MB hasn't got backports (but binaries are available upstream). + +I think you need to offer assistance in maintaining netbeans, rather than +asking that everyone be inflicted with the pain of a rolling distribution +(which wouldn't help you get a newer netbeans). + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#827">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#827">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#827">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#827">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |