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You have to like go +</I>>>>><i> to console and do not cool stuff. I guess as long as it is not invasive +</I>>>>><i> it will be fine. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Then we need to fix it so it cope with no internet access, not disable +</I>>>><i> it. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe the first time connected to the internet the survey should appear? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- later, Robert Xu +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Why we' re talking about a survey? Do we need this? We are not a +</I>><i> company and think about customer happiness. I thought this thread is +</I>><i> about a informational and/or assistance application for newbies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we' re talking about a Welcome Center, we should decide if it is +</I>><i> only an informative html page or an assistance to configure basic +</I>><i> things or both. +</I>><i> ____ +</I>><i> +</I>Don't forget that (under Mandriva) there already is a routine to +configure the system when one installs or upgrades. I see it every 6 +months, with a new version of Mandriva. +However, it is not very user-friendly for a novice, and doesn't have +very complete help for advanced users. +My initial reaction to this idea was that the existing functions would +be improved by a welcome centre. +But the more I think about it, I'm reminded of the "Bob" routine and the +"What do you want to do today" slogan of Microsoft. Neither lasted very +long. +The last think we want to do is "dumb down" Mageia. That will turn off +a lot more people than it will attract, in my view. +What will help is a more complete help system on install, much like +Ubuntu already has. Mandriva has many assets, this is just one of the +weaker points. +The way Mandriva works now, all the applications listed in the suggested +"welcome centre" can be readily installed (at least an equivalent by +default in most cases), and the default menu system lists every gui +application installed. +Maybe a guided tour is a good idea, but with the large variety of +applications available and the various desktops, it is a lot more +complicated than the one-size-fits-all environnement of Microsoft. + +An idea just came to mind -- instead of a "welcome centre", +having an option to show the descriptions with the name of each item in +a menu page. +Currently the description (or comment) only appears on hovering over the +item name, which is fine for those already familiar with their Mageia +installation. +However being able to see all the descriptions at once in the menu page +would be really useful for novices. +And it wouldn't be "dumbing down" Mageia. +As well as being very easy to implement, as the descriptions are +normally already there and localised. (That is part of the XDG menu +specs, the norm used by Mandriva, and many other distros.) +Just an idea ... + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000464.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000453.html">[Mageia-dev] test +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#524">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#524">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#524">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#524">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |