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Two RPMs built at different time will result different, +</I>><i> even the executable binaries when built on the same hardware at different +</I>><i> time might be different (because of timestamps, etc.). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO the idea of the cloud is not that bad but need to be rethinked. +</I>><i> +</I> +What about virtualization? + +Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated vm's as a +unique build system. Could be a good workaround over security and integrity +issues, 'cause we are using a "single" build system. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/04b37deb/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#280">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#280">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#280">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#280">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000281.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000281.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..39285f365 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000281.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FF447.3040709%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000298.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000289.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FF447.3040709%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 03:32:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#281">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#281">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#281">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#281">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +><i> The most difficult things IMHO would be building from the same +</I>><i> syncronized data. In that case you might choose a master server and +</I>><i> several mirrors. The master might have multiple internet access points +</I>><i> (e.g. from two providers) and will be the only one who might receive +</I>><i> svn commits. Or a model without a master, I guess inspiring to a model +</I>><i> what UseNET is (was), I think a lot more complicate. But in that case +</I>><i> you have two direction of feeding and if two libraries are submitted +</I>><i> in different user in nearest time, you need a system to check for +</I>><i> coerency and set alarms in some cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO one of the building problems was not massive automatic rebuilding +</I>><i> but avoid bottenlecks to the users when building goes wrong. +</I>I really like the concept of a distributed build system. + +There is the problem that in most home ISP accounts, upload speed is +pitiful compared to download speed, by design - they don't want home +users running servers. However, it should be possible to design +something along the lines of the SETI project. Have the prospective +servers rsync their captive build environments prior to build, and build +in a chroot, returning the results. I'd be happy to provide a machine +on my home LAN to do this, and it would be interesting to design the +control system for it. Given many machines which have been rsync'd to +the correct build environment, a distributed *make* could export +individual compiles or groups of compiles to the cloud systems. Just as +we have "committer" rights now, we could have cloud build rights that +involve key pairs that could digitally sign what they send back to +identify the sender. With random distribution of work, the chances of +malice are considerably less, and the key signature ensures that you +know who you got anything dodgy from. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#281">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#281">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#281">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#281">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000282.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000282.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..82366f18b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000282.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262349.32146.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000280.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Buchan Milne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262349.32146.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">bgmilne at multilinks.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 00:49:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#282">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#282">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#282">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#282">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:14:15 Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +><i> IMHO the idea of the cloud is not that bad +</I> +It has obviously already been thought about to some extent. + +><i> but need to be rethinked. I +</I>><i> don't see so much flaws for security. If you inspire to what repsys is +</I>><i> right now, the cloud would be like having several svn repositories +</I>><i> mirrored around the world each one with a local iurt/repsys building +</I>><i> system (it might be even partial, e.g. there could be BIG ones holding the +</I>><i> whole svn|git tree, and smaller one holding just the latest release or the +</I>><i> latest two releases, etc.). Each building system around the world will +</I>><i> sign packages they build with their own signing keys and you know where +</I>><i> they come from. And packages won't be resigned by a supposed master. Of +</I>><i> course you have to trust their administrators, exactly like you right now +</I>><i> have to trust single users submitting sources to the svn and bulding +</I>><i> packages. +</I> +No, at present we trust users to submit source code, that can in theory be +audited quite easily. + +Changing a distributed model means you need to trust all users who have any +way to affect any of the toolchain on any of the hosts (taking into account +e.g. compiler trojans), or you need mechanisms to be able to validate it the +toolchain. While this could be done with a slow-moving distro, with a fast- +moving one, where parts of the toolchain and integral libraries change on a +more-frequent-than-weekly basis, the manual overhead to update signed +filesystem images or similar would probably be excessive. + +Changing to a distributed, virtualised model brings in more issues (how about +trojaned hypervisor?), while possibly allowing to mitigate some ... + +What we could do in a more distributed fashion (e.g. on EC2 or similar), is +providing instances on which developers test/develop builds (such as the +interactive use of n*, chroot* etc. on Mandriva). + +><i> The most difficult things IMHO would be building from the same syncronized +</I>><i> data. In that case you might choose a master server and several mirrors. +</I>><i> The master might have multiple internet access points (e.g. from two +</I>><i> providers) and will be the only one who might receive svn commits. Or a +</I>><i> model without a master, I guess inspiring to a model what UseNET is (was), +</I>><i> I think a lot more complicate. But in that case you have two direction of +</I>><i> feeding and if two libraries are submitted in different user in nearest +</I>><i> time, you need a system to check for coerency and set alarms in some +</I>><i> cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO one of the building problems was not massive automatic rebuilding but +</I>><i> avoid bottenlecks to the users when building goes wrong. +</I> +But, there aren't usually very many cases like this which can be solved by +distributing outside the control of the foundation. A standby build +environment to go with a standby authoritative mirror host would be nice, but +it would need to same security as the production authoritative mirror host. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#282">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#282">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#282">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#282">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000283.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000283.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..62fb0508f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000283.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009270806570.21433-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000293.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000284.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009270806570.21433-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 08:19:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#283">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#283">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#283">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#283">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +I did a quick comparison of the most common forum software packages +(both commercial and FOSS) from a vulnerability point of view. + +I'm subscribed to the well known (every sysadmin that takes his/her job +seriously is subscribed to it) weekly SANS "@RISK: The Consensus +Security Alert" newsletter since 2000, so I have an mbox archive file +that contains almost 11 years worth of weekly alerts of software +vulnerabilities. + +A quick an easy way that I have used before to assess the vulnerability +of any software is to do a simple grep of the software name in this mbox +file and count the times that software gets mentioned. While this is not +100% scientific it gives a good approximation of the amount of +vulnerabilities a particular software has suffered from. + +Here are the results, from most vulnerable to least: + +grep -i phpbb sans-security_alert|wc -l + 723 +grep -i vbulletin sans-security_alert|wc -l + 256 +grep -i "Invision power board" sans-security_alert|wc -l + 238 +grep -i mybb sans-security_alert|wc -l + 176 +grep -i "Simple Machines Forum" sans-security_alert|wc -l + 58 +grep -i fudforum sans-security_alert|wc -l + 7 + +All I can say, I'm surprised that the official Mandriva forum (which +uses phpBB) is still standing... :-) + +And this confirms another thing: FUDforum is really a hidden gem. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#283">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#283">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#283">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#283">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000284.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000284.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ddf958d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000284.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927064928.GA11539%40winter.webconquest.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271000.30002.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 09:00:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#285">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#285">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#285">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#285">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday 26 September 2010, herman wrote: +><i> BTW, I once calculated (test plus extrapolation) how long it would take +</I>><i> to rebuild every package in Mandriva on a low end 2 GHz Celeron server +</I>><i> that I had available and it came to about 80 days. +</I> +I, frankly, don't care. + +See, that would be the final packaging for a release. In the meanwhile, we +could exchange our Cauldron packages in a less-secure constellation of build +machines. If we admit that cauldron rpms are just built by the packagers (but +also signed etc.), then we take a lot of load off the "release" build cluster. + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#285">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#285">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#285">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#285">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000286.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000286.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c147c6cf9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000286.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009270857420.21433-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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While this is not +</I>><i> 100% scientific it gives a good approximation of the amount of +</I>><i> vulnerabilities a particular software has suffered from. +</I> +Indeed. It's interesting. But ranking only by the disclosed number of +vulnerabilities in the past does not assess what will be in the +future. It's not enough. + +What would be an additional important figure is, how long has it been +for each vulnerability to be fixed; how many users each has had, etc. + +Plus, what type of vulnerability. Plus, for what branch of the +software (I guess, for instance, phpBB 2.x and 3.x are a bit +different). + +What we do need is a forum that matches our needs; actually pretty +basic, but maybe for having good admin features, excellent +hackability, extensability, being well documented, having a nice +community of developers around it. And, provided we're in the free +software thing, we want to be able to share changes as well (would it +be only through our own community) without worrying. + +So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). + +><i> [...] +</I>><i> All I can say, I'm surprised that the official Mandriva forum (which +</I>><i> uses phpBB) is still standing... :-) +</I> +Parts of it were heavily hacked back in the days. Still, yes, it's +sort of a miracle somehow. :-) + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#287">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#287">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#287">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#287">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000288.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000288.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8fd6b75d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000288.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009271026060.21433-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000287.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000324.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009271026060.21433-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 10:44:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#288">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#288">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#288">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#288">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + +><i> What would be an additional important figure is, how long has it been +</I>><i> for each vulnerability to be fixed; how many users each has had, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Plus, what type of vulnerability. Plus, for what branch of the +</I>><i> software (I guess, for instance, phpBB 2.x and 3.x are a bit +</I>><i> different). +</I> +You are right but all that requires a lot more time to investigate which +I currently don't have. +But in any case it's hard to argue with 7 (fudforum) vs. 723 (phpBB). + + +><i> What we do need is a forum that matches our needs; actually pretty +</I>><i> basic, but maybe for having good admin features, excellent +</I>><i> hackability, extensability, being well documented, having a nice +</I>><i> community of developers around it. +</I> +Agreed and I'd say that all of the FOSS packages I listed generally +fulfill these criteria (each with their own strong points). + + +><i> So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). +</I> +Well out of the ones I listed that is: +phpBB - GPL +myBB - GPL +FUDforum - GPL + +this page is also quite useful: +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP</A>) + +I was actually doing this comparison not primarily for the future +Mageia forum, but because I'm looking for a good forum software for a +personal project. + +I had mostly decided to take myBB since it has a very good reputation +and is considered relatively secure (and this check I did confirms +that), but since I discovered FUDforum a few days ago and tested it on +the weekend I have now decided that FUDforum is the ideal choice for me +(and IMHO also for the Mageia forum). + + +><i> Parts of it were heavily hacked back in the days. Still, yes, it's +</I>><i> sort of a miracle somehow. :-) +</I> +I guess these days sadly Mandriva is too unimportant to be a target of +hackers. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#288">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#288">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#288">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#288">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000289.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000289.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db3eb9c6a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000289.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285578208.11577.2.camel%40athene%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000281.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000293.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>herman</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285578208.11577.2.camel%40athene%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">herman at aeronetworks.ca + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:03:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#289">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#289">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#289">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#289">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 18:32 -0700, Frank Griffin wrote: +><i> Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +</I>><i> > IMHO one of the building problems was not massive automatic rebuilding +</I>><i> > but avoid bottenlecks to the users when building goes wrong. +</I>><i> I really like the concept of a distributed build system. +</I> +The problem with a distributed system is the enormous increase in +complexity. As long as a single big server with about 24 cores can +compile the lot in one day, then a distributed system is not really +needed. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#289">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#289">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#289">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#289">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000290.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000290.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..099f35363 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000290.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA05FA5.1080508%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000285.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000300.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA05FA5.1080508%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:11:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#290">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#290">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#290">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#290">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and P. Christeas at 27/09/10 08:00 did gyre and gimble: +><i> On Sunday 26 September 2010, herman wrote: +</I>>><i> BTW, I once calculated (test plus extrapolation) how long it would take +</I>>><i> to rebuild every package in Mandriva on a low end 2 GHz Celeron server +</I>>><i> that I had available and it came to about 80 days. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I, frankly, don't care. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See, that would be the final packaging for a release. In the meanwhile, we +</I>><i> could exchange our Cauldron packages in a less-secure constellation of build +</I>><i> machines. If we admit that cauldron rpms are just built by the packagers (but +</I>><i> also signed etc.), then we take a lot of load off the "release" build cluster. +</I> +I really don't like this. It really does not fit in with things. This +would mean that a release would actually require a full rebuild for a +start (this doesn't happen currently). + +And it also assumes that any security compromised package build by a +compromised cauldron user in no way impacts the package repository that +will ultimately be used to build the distro itself. + +Personally I want my cauldron packages to be just as secure as my +release packages. After all I visit web pages, enter online banking +details, connect to VPN and SSH etc. etc. all via cauldron install. + +I really do not thing that any security model should differentiate +between devel & release from a "required security level" perspective. + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#290">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#290">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#290">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#290">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000291.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000291.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..be44c0b4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000291.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C42B950488390CA4F8ECEFA01FD6854811633AE2F35%40ADC001.mydotcom.local%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000318.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000294.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Frank Loewe</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C42B950488390CA4F8ECEFA01FD6854811633AE2F35%40ADC001.mydotcom.local%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">loewe at dotcom-service.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:12:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#291">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#291">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#291">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#291">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i>What about virtualization? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated vm's as a unique build system. Could be a good workaround over security and integrity issues, 'cause we are using >a "single" build system. +</I> + +That is the thing SuSE OBS does. The System which builds the package is a VM on a XEN Host, which is generated automatically from a defined Image, every time and for every package. +So it is clear, that the package is built on a clean system with the right OS and Patch level. + +-- +Mit freundlichem Gruß +Frank Loewe +Geschäftsführer + +dotcom-service Ltd. & Co. 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Could be a good workaround over security and +</I>><i> integrity issues, 'cause we are using a "single" build system. +</I> +Well, how do you garantee that the person who have physical access do +not mess with the vm image ? + +Look at libvirt developers blog ( <A HREF="http://rwmj.wordpress.com/">http://rwmj.wordpress.com/</A> ) to see +how easy it can be to externally mess with a virtual instance if you are +root on the host computer. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#292">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#292">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#292">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#292">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000293.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000293.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..302fd74d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000293.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DuqfUPVaq-V94Fb3WAJ%3DPFc4-X8-272BovEb_q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000289.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000283.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Giuseppe Ghibò</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DuqfUPVaq-V94Fb3WAJ%3DPFc4-X8-272BovEb_q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">ghibomgx at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:36:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#293">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#293">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#293">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#293">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 herman <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>> + + +><i> On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 18:32 -0700, Frank Griffin wrote: +</I>><i> > Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +</I>><i> > > IMHO one of the building problems was not massive automatic rebuilding +</I>><i> > > but avoid bottenlecks to the users when building goes wrong. +</I>><i> > I really like the concept of a distributed build system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem with a distributed system is the enormous increase in +</I>><i> complexity. As long as a single big server with about 24 cores can +</I>><i> compile the lot in one day, then a distributed system is not really +</I>><i> needed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I agree there would be an ENORMOUS increase in complexity, but you are +forgetting that first 24 cores someone cited were not 24 cores, but a dual +exacore machine (I guess a dual Xeon 5650) so 12 core with hyperthreads, +which is not exactly the same as 24 native core. Such core with 12GB of +memory are just "peanuts" in an environment with plenty of developers. Half +of that machine (e.g. with a core i7 985X, or AMD 1055T) is actually a +medium/top PC which you can build in your home. + +So you have to distinguish automatic rebuilding of the distro, which +operates on "working" packages from the svn, from new packages built from +the first time. The first task of a massive rebuilding is a automated task +which can be done sequentially (but 1 day is only for the main, then there +is contrib, then you have 2 archs, 32 and 64bits, and backports); the second +task instead has a lot of stop and go. If for instance a build goes wrong +because a packager couldn't test a parallel build in his own development +machine (or because the number of cores is different and you get race +conditions problems), and have to redo the work, but in the meanwhile the +building system is busy, or has other kind of problems (wait for library to +propagate, etc.), then he have to spend a lot of time fighting against the +system and babysitting a package, rather than concentrate on packaging or +developing. And for sure he would fly away (packagers are not of iron with +infinite patience). + +Also consider that the phase of LZMA compression of the RPM building won't +operate in parallel. + +Bye +Giuseppe. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/d8e0e4e8/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#293">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#293">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#293">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#293">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000294.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000294.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..64288a721 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000294.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimmaMvVBUrNmzPc1mu_-FgCyWchABv%2BwexmMcVz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000291.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000298.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimmaMvVBUrNmzPc1mu_-FgCyWchABv%2BwexmMcVz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:45:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#294">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#294">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#294">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#294">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 27 September 2010 12:12, Frank Loewe <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">loewe at dotcom-service.net</A>> wrote: +>><i>What about virtualization? +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i>Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated vm's as +</I>>><i> a unique build system. Could be a good workaround over security and +</I>>><i> integrity issues, 'cause we are using >a "single" build system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is the thing SuSE OBS does. The System which builds the package is a VM +</I>><i> on a XEN Host, which is generated automatically from a defined Image, every +</I>><i> time and for every package. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So it is clear, that the package is built on a clean system with the right +</I>><i> OS and Patch level. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mit freundlichem Gruß +</I>><i> Frank Loewe +</I> +Please don't send HTML emails to mailing lists; plain text emails are preferred. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#294">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#294">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#294">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#294">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000295.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000295.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6a6f5ac3f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000295.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikjmMcDvmtwAZ_Qw3Q%2BWj5B%3Dg8F5sL9RiPnCGa5%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000292.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000296.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Giuseppe Ghibò</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikjmMcDvmtwAZ_Qw3Q%2BWj5B%3Dg8F5sL9RiPnCGa5%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">ghibomgx at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:51:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#295">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#295">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#295">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#295">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> + +><i> Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 03:19 +0200, vfmBOFH a écrit : +</I>><i> > What about virtualization? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated +</I>><i> > vm's as a +</I>><i> > unique build system. Could be a good workaround over security and +</I>><i> > integrity issues, 'cause we are using a "single" build system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, how do you garantee that the person who have physical access do +</I>><i> not mess with the vm image ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Look at libvirt developers blog ( <A HREF="http://rwmj.wordpress.com/">http://rwmj.wordpress.com/</A> ) to see +</I>><i> how easy it can be to externally mess with a virtual instance if you are +</I>><i> root on the host computer. +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>The only way of doing this is NOT letting anyone packaging or uploading a +tarball. Just have two different building system. One "secure" and the other +of contributors (not unsecure, but with less checking). The secure one would +download the tarball automatically from the original repositories: + +e.g.: suppose there is a package SPEC file containing: + +Source: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz</A> +Source1: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> + +An automatic system would try to retrieve from the <A HREF="http://blabla.com/">http://blabla.com/</A> site +the packages +<A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,</A> or if not exists +<A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2</A> or +<A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz</A> or +<A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.</A> Then would retrieve the signature +<A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> and would check with the one from +the Database of signatures which has been already populated on the secure +system. If the signatures checking would match, then tarball would be +uploaded to the "secure" system svn and used for building instead of the one +from the contributor/package maintainer. + +[Of course the system would fail if the package maintainer has downloaded +the source tarball from the svn and not from a canonical repository, and to +be further secure this system would require also signing of Patches]. + +Bye. +Giuseppe. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/dc48d94c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#295">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#295">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#295">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#295">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000296.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000296.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ab751f7b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000296.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271307.05685.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000295.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000299.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271307.05685.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 12:07:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#296">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#296">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#296">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#296">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday 27 September 2010, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +><i> The secure +</I>><i> one would download the tarball automatically from the original +</I>><i> repositories: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> e.g.: suppose there is a package SPEC file containing: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Source: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz</A> +</I>><i> Source1: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> An automatic system would try to retrieve from the <A HREF="http://blabla.com/">http://blabla.com/</A> site +</I>><i> the packages +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,</A> or if not exists +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.</A> Then would retrieve the signature +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> and would check with the one from +</I>><i> the Database of signatures which has been already populated on the secure +</I>><i> system. If the signatures checking would match, then tarball would be +</I>><i> uploaded to the "secure" system svn and used for building instead of the +</I>><i> one from the contributor/package maintainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [Of course the system would fail if the package maintainer has downloaded +</I>><i> the source tarball from the svn and not from a canonical repository, and to +</I>><i> be further secure this system would require also signing of Patches]. +</I>><i> +</I> +... or just use git, which ensures the source code integrity. + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. 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And, provided we're in the free +</I>><i> software thing, we want to be able to share changes as well (would it +</I>><i> be only through our own community) without worrying. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). +</I> +Yup. + +I think we should compile a list of requirements first , and them use +this to select possibilities. + +So let's try : + +good admin features +-> lock down thread +-> move thread between forum +-> accountability of such changes, at least for admin +-> transparency of who manage what + +hackability / extensibility +-> support for extension ? +--> a good ecosystem of extension ? +-> written in a know language +-> well written +--> use existing and well know framework/modules ( ie, not a custom one +of possible ) + +being well documented +-> good user documentation +--> translated documentation +--> clear documentation ( screen shot ? ) +-> community around it +--> well know by people + +free license +-> AGPL would be a plus, but that's just for me :) + +as a sysadmin, i would add : + +-> not full of security holes +--> have a good history + +-> good reactivity of developers +--> proper bug tracker ( ie, not a forum ) +--> good history , seen by looking at BTS + +-> do not have excessive requirements +--> do not use too exotic database system like voldemort or hbase +--> do not requires too exotic language ( erlang, fortran ) +--> do not requires a very specific version of component +--> do not requires too much unpackaged stuff +--> portable across databases ( ie, if someday, mysql is killed, we +could change to a clone or to pgsql ) + + +-> not a ressources hog ( like use a db instead of flat file ) +--> able to manage a lot of users, and lots of post +--> set indexes on the db (a proof that developers thought of it ) +--> scalable ( can it be shard, or clusterised ? ) + +-> do not produce horrible html +--> if possible, produce html compliant pages and css + +-> could work without javascript, even if this requires to disable more +advanced features ( some people disable it for various reasons like +security, etc ). + +-> do not requires flash to work + +With my jabberfr member hat on : + +-> good xmpp integration +--> take care of xmpp link +--> offer jabber in vcard +--> can send message on jabber instead of mail + +/me remove the hat + +as a user : +-> a effective antispam +--> if possible, no captcha, or at least, one that do not weed me out + +-> something that do not mark a thread as read if I simply visit the +forum +-> a link "last posts" for the whole forum +-> a link "last posts" for just a forum +-> having more information when I receive a mail when someone answered. + Ie more like "foo has responded this" more than "someone said + something, click here to see" + +-> efficient search engine +--> do not forbid 3 letters search ( because acronyms are everywhere ) + +-> easy to manage from command line, so we can script various thing +( like removal of inactive account, etc, etc ) + +-> integrated with sso. this one can be quite tricky to realize, as +romain will tell you. + +I assume that others users will have others requirements ( like custom +smiley, rich text edition, ml integration, etc ). I remember of a thread +about using forum like a ticket system. Ie, how could the support be +improved by changing the process and the forum ? + + +I also assume that some requirement are more important than others. Ie, +there is MUST and there is MAY, like in RFC. + +So let's first gather requirements, then we will decide on what is +really important or not. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#297">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#297">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#297">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#297">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000298.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000298.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b29f2d081 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000298.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285584468.2698.202.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000294.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000281.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285584468.2698.202.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 12:47:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#298">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#298">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#298">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#298">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 11:12 +0200, Frank Loewe a écrit : +><i> >What about virtualization? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated +</I>><i> vm's as a unique build system. Could be a good workaround over +</I>><i> security and integrity issues, 'cause we are using >a "single" build +</I>><i> system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is the thing SuSE OBS does. The System which builds the package +</I>><i> is a VM on a XEN Host, which is generated automatically from a defined +</I>><i> Image, every time and for every package. +</I>><i> So it is clear, that the package is built on a clean system with the +</I>><i> right OS and Patch level. +</I> +That's also what we do, except our system is a little bit older, and so +use chroot. But we were planning to change this on mandriva ( but no one +did ). + +There is however something to not forget, that's the way we target more +exotic architecture. Ie, arm, mips, etc. Arnaud Patard explained to me +that nothing replace compilation on real system as subtle bug can be +introduced by emulator or cross compilation. + +So the system must be flexible enough to not force virtualisation or +anything. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#298">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#298">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#298">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#298">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000299.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000299.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e219c60d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000299.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271131.19089.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000296.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000310.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Buchan Milne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271131.19089.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">bgmilne at multilinks.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 12:31:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday, 27 September 2010 10:51:19 Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: +><i> 2010/9/27 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 03:19 +0200, vfmBOFH a écrit : +</I>><i> > > What about virtualization? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated +</I>><i> > > vm's as a +</I>><i> > > unique build system. +</I> +Are you familiar with how the Mandriva build cluster worked? If not, you +should try and familiarise yourself with it first. While there are areas for +improvement, most of the time it worked very effectively. + +><i> > > Could be a good workaround over security and +</I>><i> > > integrity issues, 'cause we are using a "single" build system. +</I> +You need to explain further how "remote" VMs can be used to workaround +security issues ... + +><i> > Well, how do you garantee that the person who have physical access do +</I>><i> > not mess with the vm image ? +</I> +Again, as I said earlier, you need to be able to maintain the entire integrity +of the build environment/tool chain, not just the source of software being +compiled (to avoid trojaned compiler, possibly injected by trojan hypervisor +etc.). + +><i> > Look at libvirt developers blog ( <A HREF="http://rwmj.wordpress.com/">http://rwmj.wordpress.com/</A> ) to see +</I>><i> > how easy it can be to externally mess with a virtual instance if you are +</I>><i> > root on the host computer. +</I> +><i> The only way of doing this is NOT letting anyone packaging or uploading a +</I>><i> tarball. +</I> +This is not the only requirement. + +><i> Just have two different building system. One "secure" and the +</I>><i> other of contributors (not unsecure, but with less checking). The secure +</I>><i> one would download the tarball automatically from the original +</I>><i> repositories: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> e.g.: suppose there is a package SPEC file containing: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Source: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz</A> +</I>><i> Source1: <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> An automatic system would try to retrieve from the <A HREF="http://blabla.com/">http://blabla.com/</A> site +</I>><i> the packages +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.xz,</A> or if not exists +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.bz2</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.gz</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5-1.tar.</A> Then would retrieve the signature +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig">http://blabla.com/openssh-5.5.1.tar.sig</A> and would check with the one from +</I>><i> the Database of signatures which has been already populated on the secure +</I>><i> system. If the signatures checking would match, then tarball would be +</I>><i> uploaded to the "secure" system svn and used for building instead of the +</I>><i> one from the contributor/package maintainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [Of course the system would fail if the package maintainer has downloaded +</I>><i> the source tarball from the svn and not from a canonical repository, and to +</I>><i> be further secure this system would require also signing of Patches]. +</I> +IMHO, you should also keep the public keys of tarball signers. Please have a +look at the samba SPEC file, which does verification of the tarball signature +during %prep. In conjunction with the existing build tools (repsys/mdvsys +etc.), a single command ('mdvsys update samba xxx') currently (usually) +updates and submits the package, and building it at any time validates the +source tarball. + +Actually, I still need to petition other security-sensitive packages which +have previously said that tarball signing is irrelevant (due to the problem of +first establishing trust of public keys etc.). + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000300.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000300.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..07b8a6ff4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000300.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271504.30915.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000290.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000301.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.</H1> + <B>JPB</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271504.30915.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.">jpierre.benoit at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:04:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? 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+</I> +You mean that you have installed Mandriva, and want to get Mageia by updating? + +Well, I'm not developer but I think that, even if Mageia will be a +fork of Mandriva, it's like ask to get Fedora updating a previously +installed Mandriva. + +IMHO, best way of getting Mageia if you have another distro, will be +making a clean install. + +But maybe, I'm misunderstanding you question. + +Cheers! + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#301">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#301">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#301">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#301">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000302.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000302.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0e47822ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000302.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimHQDX9YJqfweF9BGc5yDQNsrF_xHQAPvZg9eMx%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000308.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000303.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimHQDX9YJqfweF9BGc5yDQNsrF_xHQAPvZg9eMx%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:14:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 27 September 2010 16:04, JPB <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jpierre.benoit at free.fr</A>> wrote: +><i> Just one simple but important question: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Will Mageia provide a upgrade path for MDV users ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just answer, yes, no , too early not yet decided. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> TIA +</I>><i> +</I>><i> JPB +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, it'll be possible to easily upgrade from mdv to mageia. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000303.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000303.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ad8d7cc04 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000303.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinjdp59pYc2m_NmWG%2BX8UaYeaEAcaviBES5GsSr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000302.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000304.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinjdp59pYc2m_NmWG%2BX8UaYeaEAcaviBES5GsSr%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:14:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:04 PM, JPB <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jpierre.benoit at free.fr</A>> wrote: + +><i> Just one simple but important question: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Will Mageia provide a upgrade path for MDV users ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just answer, yes, no , too early not yet decided. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> TIA +</I>><i> +</I>><i> JPB +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>This is something I wonder. At least the first release should be nice to +upgrade. +I have a smale home server, but I hate to re-install it again. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/b8ec4d90/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000304.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000304.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10863c9fd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000304.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA098EF.8050809%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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just what I wanted to hear ;) + +As we say in french "bon courage" to all the devs/core team. + +JPB +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/5e7225f8/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000306.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000306.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c5af96ba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000306.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimSUpnQ%3D2bQe%3DpoyQe2rX5o74gPu0Oza6Lq7ENo%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I didn't know that. + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#307">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#307">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#307">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#307">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000308.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000308.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e633a66a8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000308.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271616.38570.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000307.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000302.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.</H1> + <B>JPB</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271616.38570.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.">jpierre.benoit at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 16:16:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#308">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#308">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#308">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#308">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 27 septembre 2010, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> > Actually drakx has the infrastucture in place in order to upgrade +</I>><i> > another distro (eg: connectiva, older fedora) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thank you very much, Thierry. I didn't know that. +</I>><i> +</I>+1 + +Thanks one more time. + +JPB +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/ffb55fde/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#308">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#308">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#308">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#308">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000309.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000309.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f36082d9d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000309.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0AABC.8010105%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000317.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000311.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0AABC.8010105%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 16:31:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +Is it possible in mailman to reject HTML messages? + +I've been seeing quite a few HTML messages on the list and it makes life +a bit more difficult (due to changing styles within a thread) when +reading and skim-reading lots of mails. Consistency is key to quick +consumption of messages! + +If possible, can we forcibly reject HTML formatted emails from the list? + +If that is not possible, can everyone please configure their mail +clients to send plain text only emails to the list address please? + +Cheers + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000310.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000310.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10c1157c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000310.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimrVGD_-EZZkbhcVXFRPAXFogrSsL_u6O%3DhmnKL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000299.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000318.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>R James</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimrVGD_-EZZkbhcVXFRPAXFogrSsL_u6O%3DhmnKL%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">upsnag2 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:16:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#310">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#310">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#310">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#310">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Buchan Milne <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at multilinks.com</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, you should also keep the public keys of tarball signers. Please have a +</I>><i> look at the samba SPEC file, which does verification of the tarball signature +</I>><i> during %prep. In conjunction with the existing build tools (repsys/mdvsys +</I>><i> etc.), a single command ('mdvsys update samba xxx') currently (usually) +</I>><i> updates and submits the package, and building it at any time validates the +</I>><i> source tarball. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Actually, I still need to petition other security-sensitive packages which +</I>><i> have previously said that tarball signing is irrelevant (due to the problem of +</I>><i> first establishing trust of public keys etc.). +</I>><i> +</I>For the initial launch of Mageia, I understand the benefits of having +a trusted build system in a controlled data center. Its safe, simple +and when the initial deployment issues arise, physical access to the +servers may be required. + +However, if a system is devised which allows known/trusted +contributors to provide good hardware and bandwidth for package +building, I'd be very willing to participate. :-) + +Thanks again, +Rick +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#310">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#310">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#310">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#310">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000311.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000311.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7b71ab60c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000311.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinLMmAtNC07GYkizx9eSP-kkACxr6sSeDkmOaTE%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000309.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000313.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinLMmAtNC07GYkizx9eSP-kkACxr6sSeDkmOaTE%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:17:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#311">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#311">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#311">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#311">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 27 September 2010 17:31, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it possible in mailman to reject HTML messages? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've been seeing quite a few HTML messages on the list and it makes life +</I>><i> a bit more difficult (due to changing styles within a thread) when +</I>><i> reading and skim-reading lots of mails. Consistency is key to quick +</I>><i> consumption of messages! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If possible, can we forcibly reject HTML formatted emails from the list? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If that is not possible, can everyone please configure their mail +</I>><i> clients to send plain text only emails to the list address please? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Col +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Colin Guthrie +</I>><i> mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Day Job: +</I>><i>  Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +</I>><i> Open Source: +</I>><i>  Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] +</I>><i>  PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] +</I>><i>  Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</I> +Well, rejecting them would be just rude :p + +Seriously though, the new fork news has brought a lot of people to the +ML land; for some it's probably their first time using an ML so it's +gonna take a bit of time/mistakes/education until everyone grasps all +the netiquette fine bits and pieces. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#311">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#311">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#311">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#311">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000312.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000312.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..60f8539b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000312.html @@ -0,0 +1,197 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0B80B.9070702%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000297.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000320.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0B80B.9070702%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:28:11 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 27/09/2010 10:02, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:19, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I did a quick comparison of the most common forum software packages +</I>>><i> (both commercial and FOSS) from a vulnerability point of view. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm subscribed to the well known (every sysadmin that takes his/her job +</I>>><i> seriously is subscribed to it) weekly SANS "@RISK: The Consensus +</I>>><i> Security Alert" newsletter since 2000, so I have an mbox archive file +</I>>><i> that contains almost 11 years worth of weekly alerts of software +</I>>><i> vulnerabilities. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A quick an easy way that I have used before to assess the vulnerability +</I>>><i> of any software is to do a simple grep of the software name in this mbox +</I>>><i> file and count the times that software gets mentioned. While this is not +</I>>><i> 100% scientific it gives a good approximation of the amount of +</I>>><i> vulnerabilities a particular software has suffered from. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed. It's interesting. But ranking only by the disclosed number of +</I>><i> vulnerabilities in the past does not assess what will be in the +</I>><i> future. It's not enough. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What would be an additional important figure is, how long has it been +</I>><i> for each vulnerability to be fixed; how many users each has had, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Plus, what type of vulnerability. Plus, for what branch of the +</I>><i> software (I guess, for instance, phpBB 2.x and 3.x are a bit +</I>><i> different). +</I>><i> +</I>Hi, + +phpbb2 and phpbb3 share very few lines of code afaik + +And statistics are enough to explain : + +phpBB2: 38 advisories (27 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/463/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/463/</A> + +9% highly critical, 34% moderate, 49% low, 9% not + +phpBB2 is/was a well known security nightmare :o) + +---- + +fudForum: 2 advisories (2 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5530/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5530/</A> + +50% highly critical, 50% moderate + +The critical one allowing system access :o) + +---- + +phpBB3: 4 advisories (5 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17998/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17998/</A> + +0% highly critical, 25 % moderate, 75% low + +---- + +I crearly consider phpBB3 not less secure than fudForum can be :) + + +><i> What we do need is a forum that matches our needs; actually pretty +</I>><i> basic, but maybe for having good admin features, excellent +</I>><i> hackability, extensability, being well documented, having a nice +</I>><i> community of developers around it. And, provided we're in the free +</I>><i> software thing, we want to be able to share changes as well (would it +</I>><i> be only through our own community) without worrying. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I>when it comes to forum engine choice there are many things important to +consider (in particular if we are optimistic enough to consider it could +grow with Mageia future success). + +Security is one of them. + +If the forum is supposed to grow we must have something properly working +under rather high load... than can involve a separate server for +database (or even something stronger) that can also involve a forum +engine that proved it's ability to survive high loads (and the biggest +in <A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com">http://www.big-boards.com</A> runs phpBB3). + +Very *very* important if we want to be able to deal with trolls and +forum users experience : we must have moderation needs being well +addressed (global topic management with topics splitting and merging, +easy messages management (editing, suppressing, moving... hiding ?), +easy user management including things like temporary moderation of +messages to calm down trolls and other useful thing like detection of +multiple accounts creation, temporary or definitive banishment, ability +to give extended rights to "special" people (dev, bug squad, doc +writers, technical support...) + +If we want to provide a good user experience we must have something that +provide a templating system easy to understand and to play with. + +Then there are administration features (bot management, forum structure, +fine grained access control and tuning) + +And obviously hackability is important to allow things like SSO and +other cool things (perhaps nice RSS features ? Mailing Lists connection +? Button available to Technical support team and moderators allowing to +send an alert on Cauldron list if a post can be interresting for devs ? +Bugzilla connection ?) + +Something very secure that cannot do the job or that will make +moderators life a hell and user experience a pain is not the ideal forum +engine imho + +All this parameters (and others less important) need to be taken in +account and the first people whom i would listen to are future +administrators and moderators... because they will suffer with it every +day... and beacause the quality of their work and attitude toward forum +users will be the first thing likely to attract people and give a good +reputation to Mageia community :) + +my2cents + +Maât + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/e7007c74/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000313.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000313.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..065032822 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000313.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0B980.3040905%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000311.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000315.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0B980.3040905%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:34:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 27/09/10 16:17 did gyre and gimble: +><i> On 27 September 2010 17:31, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Is it possible in mailman to reject HTML messages? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, rejecting them would be just rude :p +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Seriously though, the new fork news has brought a lot of people to the +</I>><i> ML land; for some it's probably their first time using an ML so it's +</I>><i> gonna take a bit of time/mistakes/education until everyone grasps all +</I>><i> the netiquette fine bits and pieces. +</I> +This is true. I wonder tho' if mailman can reject the HTML part of +multipart/alternative messages and only actually deliver the plain text +part... That would generally solve the problem (but not completely). + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000314.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000314.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b13d93f5c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000314.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.15.59.464918%40nomail.afraid.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000305.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000316.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.15.59.464918%40nomail.afraid.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Better saying it.">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:16:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:15:27 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: + +><i> I believe that is the intention at present, yes. +</I> + Sounds rather ambitious to start off with. + +Better to conserve effort at first; would be a nice enhancement later. + +I look forward to trying Mageia, but as a clean install, not an +upgrade. Might try a Mageia-Mageia upgrade later. +-- +/\/\aurice + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000315.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000315.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9c100bd93 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000315.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0BE98.2050906%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000313.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000321.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20List%20Options%3A%20Is%20it%20possible%20to%20disable%20HTML%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0BE98.2050906%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:56:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Colin Guthrie wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it possible in mailman to reject HTML messages? +</I>><i> +</I>Supposedly, yes. The Mailman FAQ says it can automatically strip MIME +attachments and to see the List Admin doc. 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Please have a +</I>>><i> look at the samba SPEC file, which does verification of the tarball signature +</I>>><i> during %prep. In conjunction with the existing build tools (repsys/mdvsys +</I>>><i> etc.), a single command ('mdvsys update samba xxx') currently (usually) +</I>>><i> updates and submits the package, and building it at any time validates the +</I>>><i> source tarball. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Actually, I still need to petition other security-sensitive packages which +</I>>><i> have previously said that tarball signing is irrelevant (due to the problem of +</I>>><i> first establishing trust of public keys etc.). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> For the initial launch of Mageia, I understand the benefits of having +</I>><i> a trusted build system in a controlled data center.  Its safe, simple +</I>><i> and when the initial deployment issues arise, physical access to the +</I>><i> servers may be required. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However, if a system is devised which allows known/trusted +</I>><i> contributors to provide good hardware and bandwidth for package +</I>><i> building, I'd be very willing to participate. :-) +</I> +Now, I don't know how Mandriva did its build system, but we will +ALWAYS need physical access to servers. If something goes so terribly +wrong that one has to reinstall the whole freaking OS, that's not +going to help Magiea unless we have access. + +Personally, I like either the Koji build system or the openSuSE Build +Service; personally, the OBS sounds better to me, because it can +natively sign packages, submit request system, ACL, cross-compile, +etc. +But then again, that's just me, b/c I use a local instance at home and +I'm used to setting up the OBS from a minimal install. + +I've always had trouble setting up Koji... it feels less friendly to me. + +There are a great amount of tutorials on en.o.o, so check it out. + +-- +later, Robert Xu +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000319.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000319.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b4de46123 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000319.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Better saying it. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Better%20saying%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271818.37980.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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With KDE if we look at the Mandriva 2010.1, it's barely usable +</I>><i> on a P4-3000 with 1-2GB RAM, or a AMD Barton 2500. Barely means that windows +</I>><i> and applications are pretty slow to open, switching is slow, etc.; since +</I>><i> netbook are so popular we can consider the minimum requirements as those of a +</I>><i> typical 2010 netbook, which has ATOM 1.6Ghz processor and 1GB memory. In +</I>><i> other words we can consider as default the presence of the SSE instruction +</I>><i> set. ATOM has even the SSE2, which would be even better, but that would left +</I>><i> out some AMD CPU (some older AMD, like 1.2Ghz has only the 3DNow and not +</I>><i> SSE). I would drop compiling for old ISA drivers in kernel (think to some old +</I>><i> ISA 3com card, like 3C505, etc.). +</I>><i> +</I>If you have a P4 with 2GB RAM, and that is slow/sluggish with KDE4, +i think you definitely should pay more attention to KDE configuration. +We have some forum users at mandrivauser.de who run KDE4 on +machines that have less than half of the power of the machines you +describe, there it is sluggish, but still usable. +My laptop has a P4 2.8GHz with originally 512 MB RAM, it will swap +out mostly all the time if you have more openend than a browser, +but it's not slow/sluggish, and definitely usable. + +More on-topic, at mandrivauser.de, some years ago we did hand- +optimized packages for i686 and Pentium M, for some bigger apps +like OpenOffice, and if you fine-tune compiler and linker flags +for every package and every arch you support, there is definitely +a measurable performance gain, sometimes as big as 15-40%, +f.ex. startup time for OOo, but not in general. + +The downside of that is, optimizing compiler flags is really risky +and can't be done in general, at least not those optimizations +that really make the difference. -Os vs. -O2 is not, what i'm talking about, +it's more stuff like -funroll-loops, -ffast-math and the like. +But even Gentoo recommendations say those should be avoided, +and you have to do them on a per-package-basis. + +I think we should stay with plain old i586, but the mageia-light +thing sounds like a nice idea, i must say. We should not do what fedora +has done and abandon support for those older cpus at the cost +of what? 1% performance gain? C'mon ... + + + +PS: Sorry, wanted to get this mail out yesterday, but Thunderbird didn't want to :( +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000322.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000322.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..71251e121 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000322.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0D3A5.2050604%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000320.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000285.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0D3A5.2050604%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 19:25:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? 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We should not do what fedora +</I>><i> has done and abandon support for those older cpus at the cost +</I>><i> of what? 1% performance gain? C'mon ... +</I>><i> +</I> +I'm coming in late on the conversation, but if Mageia-light is a +minimal distro compiled for use on i386, there should be a package of +basic build scripts and dependencies to d/l and compile any Magia +package from *src.rpm with the appropriate compiler flags. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000324.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000324.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1683fd5e1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000324.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0D9C5.9000000%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000288.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000325.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0D9C5.9000000%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 19:52:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Am 27.09.2010 10:44, schrieb Tux99: +>><i> So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). +</I>><i> Well out of the ones I listed that is: +</I>><i> phpBB - GPL +</I>><i> myBB - GPL +</I>><i> FUDforum - GPL +</I>><i> +</I>I would definitely not consider using SMF, for various reasons: +<A HREF="http://www.simplemachines.org/about/opensource.php">http://www.simplemachines.org/about/opensource.php</A> + +Some time ago mandrivauser.de used SMF, and then there +came a point where we wanted to do something like an +offline live-cd of the forum. We didn't get written permission +or even any permission at all to redistribute the forum, +so we had to change the forum software. + +If you want details, i can dig them up or maybe wobo can +tell you a few things about this. + + +This is only meant to keep this decision a bit future-safe ;) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000325.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000325.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ac3283090 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000325.html @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0DDC3.1010908%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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As far as I know +</I>><i> its GPL. +</I> ++999999 (most seriously) + +-- +later, Robert Xu +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#326">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#326">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#326">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#326">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000327.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000327.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0ceaa08bc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000327.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikz_3J09H15kZOdf6reSBCk0fEt48mJ4tT69gsX%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000323.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000334.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>R James</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikz_3J09H15kZOdf6reSBCk0fEt48mJ4tT69gsX%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">upsnag2 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 20:36:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#327">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#327">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#327">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#327">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Hoyt Duff wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> I'm coming in late on the conversation, but if Mageia-light is a +</I>><i> minimal distro compiled for use on i386, there should be a package of +</I>><i> basic build scripts and dependencies to d/l and compile any Magia +</I>><i> package from *src.rpm with the appropriate compiler flags. +</I>><i> +</I>Even the original Mandrake of 1998 was compiled for i586 (Pentium +Classic or newer) so Mageia will never run on i386 or i486. Those +platforms are pretty much extinct and i386 can't do POSIX threads +anyways. + +Some distros still tag their packages as "i386" but I'll bet my +first-born that you'll never get them to boot on real 386 hw. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#327">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#327">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#327">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#327">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000328.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000328.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1e07ada26 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000328.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0E76C.9090800%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000326.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000329.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0E76C.9090800%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 20:50:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#328">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#328">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#328">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#328">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Ireneusz Gierlach at 27/09/10 19:09 did gyre and gimble: +><i> I know you guys are talking about forum software only (I'm jumping in +</I>><i> the middle of the conversation so i'm not sure), but there is a +</I>><i> developer platform called redmine. <A HREF="http://www.redmine.org/">http://www.redmine.org/</A> It's in Ruby +</I>><i> on Rails and has like Forum, Wiki, Roadmaps, issue tracking and so on. +</I>><i> As far as I know its GPL. +</I> +I think a lot of the constructs and principles in redmine (and other +trac-like systems) are not really geared towards a full distro type +system. Certainly I doubt the repository viewers etc. will be sufficient +and the forum component is also likely rather simplistic compared to +fully-fledge forums. I doubt very much we'd want to use anything other +than bugzilla for issue tracking (mainly due to the history, but also +due to the fact that the workflow in redmine is deliberately rather +simple and minimal and we probably want something more rigid). + +With this in mind, if you discount issue tracking, forum and repository +viewer, then there are not many reasons left to make Redmine a good option. + +Don't get me wrong, I use trac (which is very similar to redmine) daily +and really like it, but I'm just not convinced it would be appropriate +for this kind of thing. + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#328">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#328">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#328">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#328">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000329.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000329.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..507e16512 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000329.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C1285613833.2698.315.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Certainly I doubt the repository viewers etc. will be sufficient +</I>><i> and the forum component is also likely rather simplistic compared to +</I>><i> fully-fledge forums. I doubt very much we'd want to use anything other +</I>><i> than bugzilla for issue tracking (mainly due to the history, but also +</I>><i> due to the fact that the workflow in redmine is deliberately rather +</I>><i> simple and minimal and we probably want something more rigid). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With this in mind, if you discount issue tracking, forum and repository +</I>><i> viewer, then there are not many reasons left to make Redmine a good option. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Don't get me wrong, I use trac (which is very similar to redmine) daily +</I>><i> and really like it, but I'm just not convinced it would be appropriate +</I>><i> for this kind of thing. +</I>><i> +</I> +well, look at sites like illumos.org. They use Redmine, but they've +managed to make it in such a way that it can function as a regular +website too. + + +-- +later, Robert Xu +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#330">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#330">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#330">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#330">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000331.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000331.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..62b35ac70 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000331.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikCgWBEGK2RJoGT80mE1LJQjRMAvx6ysp-ymm9M%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000335.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000336.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikCgWBEGK2RJoGT80mE1LJQjRMAvx6ysp-ymm9M%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 21:49:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? 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Previously +</I>I +><i> did Indonesian translations. +</I>><i> With Mageia i'd like to continue my contribution in translation, +</I>><i> testing or even sysadmin. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's the magic continue! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> regards, +</I>><i> Erwien. +</I> +Hi Erwien, and welcome! + +Have you added yourself yet to the wiki? + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki">http://www.mageia.org/wiki</A> + + +Salut, +Sinner + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-dev] I would like to help... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#332">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#332">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#332">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#332">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000333.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000333.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10a7f9f45 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000333.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA10161.6060507%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000330.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000337.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Ireneusz Gierlach</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA10161.6060507%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">irek.gierlach at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:41:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> On 09/27/2010 02:58 PM, Robert Xu wrote: +><i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 14:50, Colin Guthrie<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Ireneusz Gierlach at 27/09/10 19:09 did gyre and gimble: +</I>>>><i> I know you guys are talking about forum software only (I'm jumping in +</I>>>><i> the middle of the conversation so i'm not sure), but there is a +</I>>>><i> developer platform called redmine. <A HREF="http://www.redmine.org/">http://www.redmine.org/</A> It's in Ruby +</I>>>><i> on Rails and has like Forum, Wiki, Roadmaps, issue tracking and so on. +</I>>>><i> As far as I know its GPL. +</I>>><i> I think a lot of the constructs and principles in redmine (and other +</I>>><i> trac-like systems) are not really geared towards a full distro type +</I>>><i> system. Certainly I doubt the repository viewers etc. will be sufficient +</I>>><i> and the forum component is also likely rather simplistic compared to +</I>>><i> fully-fledge forums. I doubt very much we'd want to use anything other +</I>>><i> than bugzilla for issue tracking (mainly due to the history, but also +</I>>><i> due to the fact that the workflow in redmine is deliberately rather +</I>>><i> simple and minimal and we probably want something more rigid). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> With this in mind, if you discount issue tracking, forum and repository +</I>>><i> viewer, then there are not many reasons left to make Redmine a good option. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Don't get me wrong, I use trac (which is very similar to redmine) daily +</I>>><i> and really like it, but I'm just not convinced it would be appropriate +</I>>><i> for this kind of thing. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> well, look at sites like illumos.org. They use Redmine, but they've +</I>><i> managed to make it in such a way that it can function as a regular +</I>><i> website too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Well its written in Ruby so maybe (if) we get a ruby dev, he can adapt +it to our needs specifically. On the other hand you can do that with +every project (in theory). But if I may ask, why does the forum need to +be very complex? I'm looking at multiple forums and they don't seem to +have much out of the ordinary... + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000334.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000334.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a3980e526 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000334.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimq__AarLJRjVU4QaWOpHb1PW3dB1H%3DhfzJ7%3DSU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000327.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000339.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimq__AarLJRjVU4QaWOpHb1PW3dB1H%3DhfzJ7%3DSU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:49:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 27 September 2010 20:36, R James <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">upsnag2 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Even the original Mandrake of 1998 was compiled for i586 (Pentium +</I>><i> Classic or newer) +</I> +Wrong! +Original mandriva was compiled i386. It was when we "merged" with +berolinux we targeted the i586 (spring 1999). +Using an experimental compiler (egcs). +At -O6. +All of this landed in version 6.0 with the new glibc-2.1 and the new kernel-2.2. +That was the distro where we defaulted to using udma. +On all hard disks. Even those who didn't supported. + +Ah, me remembering the glorious days of mdk6.1 with chmouel chasing a +critical kernel memory leak just days before the release. +Hopefully Alan Cox saved us. +That was a beautiful year :-) + +><i> so Mageia will never run on i386 or i486.  Those +</I>><i> platforms are pretty much extinct and i386 can't do POSIX threads +</I>><i> anyways. +</I> +i486 does. Did. At least fedora's glibc had patches for that. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000335.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000335.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9503df46d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000335.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927205344.GA23470%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000340.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000331.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927205344.GA23470%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:56:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 07:01:25PM +0200, Florian Hubold wrote: +><i> I think we should stay with plain old i586, but the mageia-light +</I>><i> thing sounds like a nice idea, i must say. We should not do what fedora +</I>><i> has done and abandon support for those older cpus at the cost +</I>><i> of what? 1% performance gain? C'mon ... +</I>Provided we stick to _lightweight_ apps. IMHO running a graphical +desktop with less than 500 MhZ is not worth the effort if we use, say +XFCE or LXDE. Better use really lightweight wms like awesome, dwm or +xmonad. We should also stick to lightweight apps (mostly console apps +and a lightweight webkit browser like jumanji. I’m biased, because +that’s what I’m using all the time even on new hardware. + +That said, there are already specialized distro for this (like Crux) + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/926fa2ec/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000336.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000336.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf688b0f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000336.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinxn8tN-qiFaHTao6dL2%2BOW8LDjd50wmeQs5W6f%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000331.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000341.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception</H1> + <B>Bersuit Vera</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinxn8tN-qiFaHTao6dL2%2BOW8LDjd50wmeQs5W6f%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception">bersuit.cooker at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:01:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>ennael !!! We can open a new "server area" in the wiki ? + +Bersuit. + +2010/9/27 Sinner from the Prairy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> To: Sascha Schneider , Samuel Verschelde, Bersuit Vera +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why don't you guys take initiative and start a "server area" on Mageia's +</I>><i> Wiki? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe with the help of ennael (Anne) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +</I>><i> Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake: <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/768873f5/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000337.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000337.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..502a21846 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000337.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927211611.GA5441%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000333.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000297.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927211611.GA5441%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:16:11 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 02:09:07PM -0400, Ireneusz Gierlach wrote: +><i> I know you guys are talking about forum software only (I'm jumping +</I>><i> in the middle of the conversation so i'm not sure), but there is a +</I>><i> developer platform called redmine. <A HREF="http://www.redmine.org/">http://www.redmine.org/</A> It's in +</I>><i> Ruby on Rails and has like Forum, Wiki, Roadmaps, issue tracking and +</I>><i> so on. As far as I know its GPL. +</I>I’m really fond of it and use it on my personal website ! + +But I don’t think it is well suited for us. Redmine works on a +per-project basis and you can have only one repository per project (and +you have also one wiki, bug tracker for that project) AFAIK. + +But admitedly it works like a charm and is very powerful ! +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000338.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000338.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ecb104f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000338.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927211835.GB5441%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000329.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000330.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20A%20comparison%20of%20forum%20software%20from%20a%20security%20POV&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927211835.GB5441%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:18:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:57:13PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> It could be used if we start to have some kind of forge ( since we have +</I>><i> some software like urpmi, etc, that would benefit from being more +</I>><i> exposed to the world ). +</I>><i> +</I>Count me in if you do ! I’ve already set it up several times with +nginx/passenger/postgres and would be happy to help :-) + +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/549f95e6/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000339.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000339.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cdba34313 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000339.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikAmb329vnarAHiPKqyc8nxOOyYc_gd%3DHfw9Qrn%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000334.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000340.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>Giuseppe Ghibò</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikAmb329vnarAHiPKqyc8nxOOyYc_gd%3DHfw9Qrn%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">ghibomgx at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:48:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> + + +><i> On 27 September 2010 20:36, R James <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">upsnag2 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Even the original Mandrake of 1998 was compiled for i586 (Pentium +</I>><i> > Classic or newer) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wrong! +</I>><i> Original mandriva was compiled i386. It was when we "merged" with +</I>><i> +</I> +the original mandrake has even the same binary package (not recompiled) of +the RH. + + +><i> berolinux we targeted the i586 (spring 1999). +</I>><i> Using an experimental compiler (egcs). +</I>><i> At -O6. +</I>><i> +</I> +Wrong too! :-) It was not egcs, but pgcc (not the portland compiler) a +special version of gcc... + +All of this landed in version 6.0 with the new glibc-2.1 and the new +><i> kernel-2.2. +</I>><i> That was the distro where we defaulted to using udma. +</I>><i> On all hard disks. Even those who didn't supported. +</I>><i> +</I> +yep pre-pre-pre kernels... + + +><i> +</I>><i> Ah, me remembering the glorious days of mdk6.1 with chmouel chasing a +</I>><i> critical kernel memory leak just days before the release. +</I>><i> Hopefully Alan Cox saved us. +</I>><i> That was a beautiful year :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Good old times... + +:<i>-) +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/1b28f53f/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000340.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000340.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..da647d6e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000340.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dmkp7SngWZKPpK-j%2BMa0RYPpukKziutWnNThsr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000339.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000335.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dmkp7SngWZKPpK-j%2BMa0RYPpukKziutWnNThsr%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:54:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 27 September 2010 20:36, R James <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">upsnag2 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Even the original Mandrake of 1998 was compiled for i586 (Pentium +</I>>><i> Classic or newer) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wrong! +</I>><i> Original mandriva was compiled i386. It was when we "merged" with +</I>><i> berolinux we targeted the i586 (spring 1999). +</I>><i> Using an experimental compiler (egcs). +</I>><i> At -O6. +</I>pgcc powah! + +>><i> so Mageia will never run on i386 or i486.  Those +</I>>><i> platforms are pretty much extinct and i386 can't do POSIX threads +</I>>><i> anyways. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i486 does. Did. At least fedora's glibc had patches for that. +</I>Yupp, I thought they had made their way upstream since though? + +There was also a i486 release of at least of either mandrake 7.0, 7,1 +or 7.2, wasn't there? :) + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000341.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000341.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b6111ca1b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000341.html @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3C1285624766.2698.316.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000336.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000332.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20server%20conception&In-Reply-To=%3C1285624766.2698.316.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 23:01 +0200, Bersuit Vera a écrit : +><i> ennael !!! We can open a new "server area" in the wiki ? +</I> +well, isn't the packager section enough ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000371.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000371.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6030df464 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/000371.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] I would like to help... + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20I%20would%20like%20to%20help...&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7tnip%24be0%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000332.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] I would like to help...</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20I%20would%20like%20to%20help...&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7tnip%24be0%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] I would like to help...">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:18:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#371">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#371">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#371">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#371">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Jorge Félez wrote: + +><i> Hello I would like to help with spanish translation, testing the 64 or +</I>><i> 32 bits desktop edition and maybe making some packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please let me know how can I help this new community :) +</I> +Hi Jorge! + +Please join the wiki at <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/</A> and the translating +team at <A HREF="http://Blogdrake.net">http://Blogdrake.net</A> + +Salut, +Sinner + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#371">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#371">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#371">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#371">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ec9bf0bec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 27 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:49:31 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="314"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="335"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="337"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="338"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="285"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="296"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="303"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="323"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="293"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="295"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="339"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="301"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="307"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="325"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="333"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="281"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="315"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="290"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="304"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="309"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="313"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="328"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="321"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="324"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="300"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="305"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="308"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="319"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="310"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="327"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="340"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="291"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="312"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="322"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="282"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="299"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="331"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A><A NAME="332"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-dev] I would like to help... +</A><A NAME="371"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="284"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="294"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="302"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="311"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="292"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="297"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="298"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="316"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="329"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="283"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="286"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="288"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="336"> </A> +<I>Bersuit Vera +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="306"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="334"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="318"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="326"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="330"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="287"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="289"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="280"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:44:15 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8e99a10b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 27 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:49:31 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="282"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="280"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="281"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="283"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="284"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="285"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="286"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="292"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="287"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="288"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="289"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="290"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="291"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="293"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="294"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="295"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="296"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="299"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="297"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="298"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="300"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="301"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="302"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="303"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="304"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="305"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="306"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="307"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="308"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="309"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="310"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="314"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="311"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="312"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="313"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="315"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="316"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="318"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="319"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="321"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="322"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="323"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="324"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="326"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="325"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="327"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="328"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="329"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="330"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="331"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A><A NAME="332"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-dev] I would like to help... +</A><A NAME="371"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="333"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="334"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="335"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="336"> </A> +<I>Bersuit Vera +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="337"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="338"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="339"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="340"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:44:15 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/subject.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/subject.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9698574f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/subject.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 27 September 2010 Archive by subject</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:49:31 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="283"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="284"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="286"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="287"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="288"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="297"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="312"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="322"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="324"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="326"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="325"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="328"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="329"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="330"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="333"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="337"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="338"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="300"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="301"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="302"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="303"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="304"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="305"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="306"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="307"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="308"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="314"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="316"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="319"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-dev] I would like to help... +</A><A NAME="371"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="321"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="323"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="327"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="334"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="335"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="339"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="340"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A><A NAME="332"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="309"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="311"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="313"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="315"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="331"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="336"> </A> +<I>Bersuit Vera +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="282"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="280"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="281"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="285"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="292"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="289"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="290"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="291"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="293"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="294"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="295"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="296"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="299"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="298"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="310"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="318"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:44:15 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..47adc0854 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100927/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,473 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 27 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:49:31 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285541371- --> +<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="282"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<!--0 01285550356- --> +<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="280"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285550356-01285571912- --> +<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="292"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285550356-01285571912-01285581079- --> +<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="295"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285550356-01285571912-01285581079-01285582023- --> +<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="296"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<!--3 01285550356-01285571912-01285581079-01285583478- --> +<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="299"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<!--3 01285550356-01285571912-01285581079-01285583478-01285600578- --> +<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="310"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<!--3 01285550356-01285571912-01285581079-01285583478-01285600578-01285604229- --> +<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="318"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285550356-01285578724- --> +<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="291"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285550356-01285578724-01285580723- --> +<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="294"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--2 01285550356-01285578724-01285584468- --> +<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="298"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285551175- --> +<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="281"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285551175-01285578208- --> +<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="289"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285551175-01285578208-01285580163- --> +<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="293"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285568343- --> +<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="283"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285568343-01285570168- --> +<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="284"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285568343-01285570168-01285570900- --> +<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="286"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285568343-01285574522- --> +<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="287"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049- --> +<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="288"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925- --> +<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="324"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947- --> +<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="325"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285610935- --> +<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="326"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285613420- --> +<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="328"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285613420-01285613833- --> +<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="329"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285613420-01285613833-01285622315- --> +<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="338"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285613420-01285613880- --> +<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="330"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285613420-01285613880-01285620065- --> +<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="333"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285577049-01285609925-01285610947-01285622171- --> +<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="337"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285568343-01285574522-01285584019- --> +<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="297"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--2 01285568343-01285574522-01285601291- --> +<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="312"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285601291-01285604787- --> +<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285568343-01285574522-01285601291-01285604787-01285608357- --> +<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A><A NAME="322"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285570827- --> +<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="285"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285570827-01285578661- --> +<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="290"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285592670- --> +<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="300"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285592670-01285593131- --> +<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="301"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285592670-01285593131-01285594815- --> +<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="306"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285592670-01285593131-01285594815-01285595781- --> +<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="307"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285592670-01285593131-01285594815-01285595781-01285596998- --> +<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="308"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285592670-01285593262- --> +<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="302"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--1 01285592670-01285593263- --> +<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="303"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--1 01285592670-01285593327- --> +<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="304"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285592670-01285593327-01285593809- --> +<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="305"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<!--2 01285592670-01285593327-01285600611- --> +<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="314"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285592670-01285593327-01285600611-01285603130- --> +<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="316"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285592670-01285593327-01285600611-01285603130-01285604317- --> +<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="319"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<!--3 01285592670-01285593327-01285600611-01285604170- --> +<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-dev] Better saying it. +</A><A NAME="317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285597884- --> +<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="309"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285597884-01285600643- --> +<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="311"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285597884-01285600643-01285601664- --> +<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="313"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285597884-01285602968- --> +<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-dev] List Options: Is it possible to disable HTML? +</A><A NAME="315"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285606885- --> +<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="321"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285606885-01285609067- --> +<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="323"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285606885-01285609067-01285612596- --> +<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="327"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285606885-01285609067-01285612596-01285620599- --> +<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="334"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--3 01285606885-01285609067-01285612596-01285620599-01285624089- --> +<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="339"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<!--3 01285606885-01285609067-01285612596-01285620599-01285624456- --> +<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="340"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285606885-01285621017- --> +<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="335"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285616944- --> +<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="331"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285616944-01285621297- --> +<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="336"> </A> +<I>Bersuit Vera +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285616944-01285621297-01285624766- --> +<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception +</A><A NAME="341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285618640- --> +<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer +</A><A NAME="332"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<!--0 01285618734- --> +<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-dev] I would like to help... +</A><A NAME="371"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:59:26 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:44:15 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |