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While this is not +</I>>><i> 100% scientific it gives a good approximation of the amount of +</I>>><i> vulnerabilities a particular software has suffered from. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed. It's interesting. But ranking only by the disclosed number of +</I>><i> vulnerabilities in the past does not assess what will be in the +</I>><i> future. It's not enough. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What would be an additional important figure is, how long has it been +</I>><i> for each vulnerability to be fixed; how many users each has had, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Plus, what type of vulnerability. Plus, for what branch of the +</I>><i> software (I guess, for instance, phpBB 2.x and 3.x are a bit +</I>><i> different). +</I>><i> +</I>Hi, + +phpbb2 and phpbb3 share very few lines of code afaik + +And statistics are enough to explain : + +phpBB2: 38 advisories (27 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/463/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/463/</A> + +9% highly critical, 34% moderate, 49% low, 9% not + +phpBB2 is/was a well known security nightmare :o) + +---- + +fudForum: 2 advisories (2 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5530/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5530/</A> + +50% highly critical, 50% moderate + +The critical one allowing system access :o) + +---- + +phpBB3: 4 advisories (5 vuln) 0% unpatched +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17998/">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17998/</A> + +0% highly critical, 25 % moderate, 75% low + +---- + +I crearly consider phpBB3 not less secure than fudForum can be :) + + +><i> What we do need is a forum that matches our needs; actually pretty +</I>><i> basic, but maybe for having good admin features, excellent +</I>><i> hackability, extensability, being well documented, having a nice +</I>><i> community of developers around it. And, provided we're in the free +</I>><i> software thing, we want to be able to share changes as well (would it +</I>><i> be only through our own community) without worrying. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, requirement #1: open source license (as in <A HREF="http://opensource.org/">http://opensource.org/</A> ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I>when it comes to forum engine choice there are many things important to +consider (in particular if we are optimistic enough to consider it could +grow with Mageia future success). + +Security is one of them. + +If the forum is supposed to grow we must have something properly working +under rather high load... than can involve a separate server for +database (or even something stronger) that can also involve a forum +engine that proved it's ability to survive high loads (and the biggest +in <A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com">http://www.big-boards.com</A> runs phpBB3). + +Very *very* important if we want to be able to deal with trolls and +forum users experience : we must have moderation needs being well +addressed (global topic management with topics splitting and merging, +easy messages management (editing, suppressing, moving... hiding ?), +easy user management including things like temporary moderation of +messages to calm down trolls and other useful thing like detection of +multiple accounts creation, temporary or definitive banishment, ability +to give extended rights to "special" people (dev, bug squad, doc +writers, technical support...) + +If we want to provide a good user experience we must have something that +provide a templating system easy to understand and to play with. + +Then there are administration features (bot management, forum structure, +fine grained access control and tuning) + +And obviously hackability is important to allow things like SSO and +other cool things (perhaps nice RSS features ? Mailing Lists connection +? Button available to Technical support team and moderators allowing to +send an alert on Cauldron list if a post can be interresting for devs ? +Bugzilla connection ?) + +Something very secure that cannot do the job or that will make +moderators life a hell and user experience a pain is not the ideal forum +engine imho + +All this parameters (and others less important) need to be taken in +account and the first people whom i would listen to are future +administrators and moderators... because they will suffer with it every +day... and beacause the quality of their work and attitude toward forum +users will be the first thing likely to attract people and give a good +reputation to Mageia community :) + +my2cents + +Maât + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100927/e7007c74/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |