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And when soemone try +</I>>><i> such kind of attempts in the real world with your distro, will be very +</I>>><i> disappointed of failures. That's why I in some way asked a survey of +</I>>><i> oldest hardware based on own experiences. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> You still miss the point that in Mageia community there are many users that +</I>><i> find 30-50e a _lot_ of money, and we dont want to shut them out. +</I>><i> +</I> +I'm not decreasing the value of the money, but rather I was pointing out the +false assumption that mageia (or the current inherited mandriva) would work +and would work FINE (or at all) on that hardware just because it was using a +compatible instruction set. I'm not against this, but if that we wanna +support that kind of hardware there is MUCH MORE work to do (I suggested a +LEGACY section in the wiki, but seems it wasn't caught) than just keeping +the actual flags, because in that way if we don't change then nobody will +complain. Even the simple lzma payload of rpm packages requires much more +memory than in the past with gzip. I'm not sure with current squashfs for +the initial ram disks. + +I already cited there are other distro which maybe do a lot better this job. +In many countries there isn't even the broadband, dialup, nor the electrical +power for them. Right now you are almost assuming that a 10 years old +instruction set is still a no go, and that our distro is optimized like the +one of the One Laptop Per Child Project. Sadly it isn't. But there is also a +2nd point: on old hardware it is still possible to run old software and old +distros: strange but true. Such old software is still doing its dirty job. +It's not that you get a trojan as soon as you put the nose out the net. +There are still ways of configuring a distro on a LAN and trust in the +people using the terminals locally. Many schools still use them. In a 2 +hours lesson at school you can't wait half an our just to have your desktop +booting..., the same if you plan an antispam server with latest antispam +tools on a server of that category (server that was doing it's dirty job +with the distro of 2 or 3 generations ago). + +I also tried such old hardware, but there are much less bloated distro and +less bloated kernels (even non-linux ones) that do the job (or a specific +duty) on such hardware a lot better than ours. + +Bye +Giuseppe. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100926/160d6f48/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#254">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#254">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#254">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#254">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |