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(Remember that? +</I>>>>><i> :o) +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_(microarchitecture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_(microarchitecture</A>)<<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_%28microarchitecture%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_%28microarchitecture%29</A>> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Yes I remember that. And ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Its just a precision to the subject title. i686 began with the +</I>>><i> Pentium Pro, not Pentium II. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm not sure what performance benefits can be gained from compiling +</I>>><i> for i686 vs i586. Probably not much except for multimedia +</I>>><i> applications which most of those can auto-detect the CPU's +</I>>><i> capabilities anyways. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Just for reference, the Fedora Project was changed from i586 to i686: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild#Driving_Features">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild#Driving_Features</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-devel-list@redhat.com/msg02583.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-devel-list@redhat.com/msg02583.html</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-devel-list@redhat.com/msg02889.html(with">http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-devel-list@redhat.com/msg02889.html(with</A> 'benchmarks') +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are still people running AMD K6's (ie: me) which is also i586. +</I>>><i> If we compile for i686 and newer, they won't even be able to boot the +</I>>><i> installer. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Therefore, I agree with the decision to keep i586 support. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>IMHO the problem is not finding an architecture to fit the i586 or i686 rpm +flags, rather to find the minimum CPU and memory requirement worthwhile for +a decent usage. With KDE if we look at the Mandriva 2010.1, it's barely +usable on a P4-3000 with 1-2GB RAM, or a AMD Barton 2500. Barely means that +windows and applications are pretty slow to open, switching is slow, etc.; +since netbook are so popular we can consider the minimum requirements as +those of a typical 2010 netbook, which has ATOM 1.6Ghz processor and 1GB +memory. In other words we can consider as default the presence of the SSE +instruction set. ATOM has even the SSE2, which would be even better, but +that would left out some AMD CPU (some older AMD, like 1.2Ghz has only the +3DNow and not SSE). I would drop compiling for old ISA drivers in kernel +(think to some old ISA 3com card, like 3C505, etc.). + +G. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100925/4738b434/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#221">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#221">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#221">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#221">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |