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My name is Michael Scherer, and for those +that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging +community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the +launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago. + +I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have +been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at +the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by +everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc +yet. + +Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community, +but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to +digest, and so I would like to share a few points : + +- please try to avoid sending emails like "i would like to help to +$FOO". While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very +helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot +accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can +manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people +can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really +urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a +little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to +ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to +translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say +"I want to translate". Just wait until we have something to translate +when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on +the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we +will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the +archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read +( especially when we are very very busy ). + +- please try to not start long discussions about technical details +( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of +course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project, +I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for +the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it +now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us +from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as +we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry. + +- please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As +someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog, +I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think +we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of +the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or +others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I +will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we +are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time, +and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us. + +- in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to +start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality +that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are +really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more +the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to +manage a community, by reading books like "The opensource way", or "the +art of community". I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those +that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest. + + +and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible +variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while +searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already +used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce +ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act +responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the +project. + +Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far +from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind +everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails +( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1 +minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the +web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8 +hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that +appeared in the mean time. + +And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the +infrastructure or anything. + +Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with +more interesting news. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-dev] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-dev] A little attention please +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#80">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#80">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#80">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#80">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |