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How +</I>><i> much time can he dedicate, how well does he know Mageia or other Linux +</I>><i> distro's, is he used to working with the command line, does he like to +</I>><i> read? +</I>Yep, than will help to better assist newcomers. +><i> Also, I know we don't have time to mentor people. However to make +</I>><i> things less hard for newcomers, would it be an idea to let them start +</I>><i> with doing reports about package requests or (if they have more Linux +</I>><i> experience) needinfo bugs? +</I>I don't see what we can ask for package requests (beside make them more +readable, which will take 10mins (?) ) + +For the needinfo bugs of courses, they could said if they reproduce, +provide more info if they can etc, it should be our jobs too, but with +our resources it's hard to do that for the most of issue. + +><i> Or should we consider to *make* time for mentoring? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> WDYT? +</I>Why not, we could start with the good practice in the bugzilla, then +each 1/2 week a new categories of bugs (installer/media/segfault +bugs/specific rpms/etc) + +btw: as you have certainly see, I have less time than before, but can +try to help newcomers if possible. +(and I don't know why, with that above I have less patience for doing +something :s) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More information about the Mageia-bugsquad +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |