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+<PRE>Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+<A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+
+Something missing, any comment ?
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+
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+
+There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+once they have been triaged?
+Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+
+Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+
+(and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+</I>&gt;<i> the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+</I>&gt;<i> hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+</I>&gt;<i> to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+</I>&gt;<i> this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+</I>&gt;<i> goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My reply is to the best of my knowledge, but please check with some one
+who has been around a lot longer than I !!
+
+According to the old wiki:
+The Bug Squad is a group of volunteer members of the Mageia community
+who help with bug-related tasks, including triage, maintenance and
+monitoring. Bug Squad members make up the triage team, whose job - as
+outlined in the Bug Policy
+&lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A>&gt; - is to filter all
+bug reports in order to ensure that only valid, complete reports are
+sent to the development team for action, and to help reporters to file
+complete reports. Bug Squad members also help to clean up old issues in
+the Bugzilla database.
+
+So we are supposed to clean up old issues. And AFAIK the team has
+already done more than that, like report on how many bugs couldn't be
+assigned because of missing maintainers. So I guess the team is already
+more a bug team than a triage team.
+
+Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make a
+page on Bug report management, too ;)
+
+Personally, I don't like the name &quot;Triage Team&quot; and if I understood
+right, Manuel doesn't like the name Bug Squad (please confirm or
+disconfirm, Manuel)
+
+I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
+
+
+
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+<PRE>Op 02-10-11 17:35, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> report
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> feedback
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yet where
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> management
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triage team).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make
+</I>&gt;<i> a page on Bug report management, too ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>What about the Bug housekeeping page, isn't that meant for Bug report
+management, too? If other teams are going to have housekeeping pages,
+we shouldn't call ours report management
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+
+I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+free time. :)
+(And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+
+For the other part I don't know.
+(I'am also a new bug man)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+</I>agree
+&gt;<i> &gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My reply is to the best of my knowledge, but please check with some one
+</I>&gt;<i> who has been around a lot longer than I !!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the old wiki:
+</I>&gt;<i> The Bug Squad is a group of volunteer members of the Mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> who help with bug-related tasks, including triage, maintenance and
+</I>&gt;<i> monitoring. Bug Squad members make up the triage team, whose job - as
+</I>&gt;<i> outlined in the Bug Policy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A>&gt; - is to filter all
+</I>&gt;<i> bug reports in order to ensure that only valid, complete reports are
+</I>&gt;<i> sent to the development team for action, and to help reporters to file
+</I>&gt;<i> complete reports. Bug Squad members also help to clean up old issues in
+</I>&gt;<i> the Bugzilla database.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we are supposed to clean up old issues. And AFAIK the team has
+</I>&gt;<i> already done more than that, like report on how many bugs couldn't be
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned because of missing maintainers. So I guess the team is already
+</I>&gt;<i> more a bug team than a triage team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make a
+</I>&gt;<i> page on Bug report management, too ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I don't like the name &quot;Triage Team&quot; and if I understood
+</I>&gt;<i> right, Manuel doesn't like the name Bug Squad (please confirm or
+</I>&gt;<i> disconfirm, Manuel)
+</I>Yes sorry I was confuse, I like more 'bugsquad' than 'triage team'
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+</I>Yep why not.
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my opinion
+*must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day
+it is released.
+
+There are mass modification functionalities in bugzilla that should allow to do
+that.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my opinion
+</I>&gt;<i> *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day
+</I>&gt;<i> it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+
+
+Is it maybe an idea to have a to do list, somewhere, with deadlines
+where needed? I can add a Bug Squad to do list to the new wiki structure
+:<i>-)
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> There are mass modification functionalities in bugzilla that should allow to do
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+<PRE>Sending again, I chose the wrong identity to send it
+
+
+Op 02-10-11 21:25, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes sorry I was confuse, I like more 'bugsquad' than 'triage team'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep why not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>To be honest, I thought the name Bug Squad was fine until I read that
+you didn't like the name. :-[ When I read that, the name didn't feel
+so good anymore, so that is why I started to like the name Bug Team more.
+Now that I read you actually wanted to write the opposite, my positive
+feelings about the name &quot;Bug Squad&quot; are coming back.
+
+Yes, I'm crazy ;-)
+
+So now I think it's a nice name and people are more likely to want to
+join a Bug Squad than a Bug Team :-D
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>
+A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported against
+Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to Mageia 2, we
+risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an update being issued in
+Mageia 2.
+
+Samuel
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>&gt;<i> A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported against
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to Mageia 2, we
+</I>&gt;<i> risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an update being issued in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as
+against Mageia 2? Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug
+reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+
+
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:38:45, vous avez &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 22:28, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; happens to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; management goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; against Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia 2, we risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update being issued in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as
+</I>&gt;<i> against Mageia 2?
+</I>
+Maybe. It could be a lot of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug
+report.
+
+&gt;<i> Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug
+</I>&gt;<i> reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+</I>&gt;<i> on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+</I>
+I'm not sure. A bug could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer
+version (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2. And
+I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same time as in
+cauldron.
+
+It's not an easy subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case
+into account.
+
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+<PRE>Op 03-10-11 16:45, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011 22:38:45, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 02-10-11 22:28,
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; A bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i> against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; against Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia 2, we
+</I>&gt;<i> risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; update being
+</I>&gt;<i> issued in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And copying it, so
+</I>&gt;<i> that there is the same report against cauldron as
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; against Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe. It could be a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If you keep it in one report and the Cauldron bug gets solved by an
+update, how is one going to see at first sight that it wasn't resolved
+for the official release. What status should it get? It can't be
+&quot;resolved fixed&quot; if it still exists in another release.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bugs on different
+</I>&gt;<i> releases should go into seperate Bug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reports, according
+</I>&gt;<i> to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one (because a
+</I>&gt;<i> patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure. A bug
+</I>&gt;<i> could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer version
+</I>&gt;<i> (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same
+</I>&gt;<i> time as in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not an easy
+</I>&gt;<i> subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case into
+</I>&gt;<i> account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Those bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before cauldron, were they set to &quot;depends
+on $cauldron bug number&quot;?
+
+Ideally, if the cauldron bug gets fixed by an update, it stops blocking
+the Mageia 1 bug, so the maintainer can then concentrate on solving the
+Mageia 1 bug. And if the blocker was properly set, he'll know the bug is
+still in Mageia 1
+
+Whatever solution is chosen, it should be made very clear in the Triage
+guide. At the moment this part states:
+
+
+
+****************************************************************
+
+What if the same bug affects two different releases?
+
+Identical bugs filed on different releases should not be closed as
+duplicates.
+For instance, if a bug is reported on Cauldron and then subsequently on
+a stable release, do not close the second report as a duplicate of the
+first.
+The reason for this is that resolution of a bug in one distribution does
+not imply resolution of the same bug in another distribution, so under
+the current Bugzilla system, having separate reports for each
+distribution is the best way to handle such situations.
+You have to also set blockers and depends properly: cauldron bug blocks
+other mageia versions bugs.
+
+*********************************************************************************
+
+
+
+Regards,
+Marja
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+I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
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+Anyone disapprove?
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+Regards,
+Marja
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two
+</I>&gt;<i>months ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned
+</I>&gt;<i>status.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Anyone disapprove?
+</I>
+Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+after first triaging all open reports.
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+&gt;<i> Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+</I>&gt;<i> we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+</I>&gt;<i> after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>
+I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+(s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+work flow.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+</I>&gt;<i> (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+</I>&gt;<i> work flow.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so
+I won't continue.
+
+Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the
+assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> Op 04-10-11 07:05, D.Morgan schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; think we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; comes after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work flow.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I won't continue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the
+</I>&gt;<i> assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago
+</I>
+Yes, I think so.
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">20111004093200.6C90A4462B at alamut.mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>--- Comment #6 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">m.van.waes at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-10-04 13:31:59 CEST ---
+</I>&gt;<i>(In reply to comment #4)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Really? That's what the triage guide says?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I never saw anything in the Triage guide about what the &quot;assigned&quot; status means
+</I>&gt;<i>or about who is supposed to set it to that status, and I still don't see it. I
+</I>&gt;<i>don't know whether that is because my brain fools me, or because it really
+</I>&gt;<i>isn't there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I thought only the Assignee sets status to ASSIGNED to show that they are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually working on the bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I understood the same from D. Morgan, I'll revert the status to &quot;new&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It is confusing, though, status &quot;ASSIGNED&quot; really meaning &quot;WORKING ON SOLUTION&quot;
+</I>
+Taking this to the list and out of the bugreport where this discussion
+doesn't really belong...
+
+I agree that it currently is unclear what this status means. So, at the
+very least we need to address this in the revised triage guide.
+
+To me it seems logical that when something is assigned to a maintainer,
+that that also turns the status to ASSIGNED. If that's not what it means,
+then perhaps the status needs to be changed to better reflect the meaning
+of the status. I don't know what a good alternative would be though...
+&quot;ACCEPTED_BY_MAINTAINER&quot;? &quot;IN_PROGRESS&quot;?
+
+Or should we just leave it at &quot;TRIAGED&quot; and then let the maintainer change
+it to &quot;ASSIGNED&quot;?
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:31:59AM +0000, Marja wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">20111004093200.6C90A4462B at alamut.mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- Comment #6 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">m.van.waes at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-10-04
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 13:31:59 CEST ---
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (In reply to comment #4)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Really? That's what the triage guide says?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I never saw anything in the Triage guide about what the &quot;assigned&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> status means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or about who is supposed to set it to that status, and I still don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see it. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't know whether that is because my brain fools me, or because it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't there.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thought only the Assignee sets status to ASSIGNED to show that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> they are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> actually working on the bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understood the same from D. Morgan, I'll revert the status to &quot;new&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is confusing, though, status &quot;ASSIGNED&quot; really meaning &quot;WORKING ON
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SOLUTION&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Taking this to the list and out of the bugreport where this discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't really belong...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that it currently is unclear what this status means. So, at
+</I>&gt;<i> the very least we need to address this in the revised triage guide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me it seems logical that when something is assigned to a
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer, that that also turns the status to ASSIGNED. If that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> what it means, then perhaps the status needs to be changed to better
+</I>&gt;<i> reflect the meaning of the status. I don't know what a good
+</I>&gt;<i> alternative would be though... &quot;ACCEPTED_BY_MAINTAINER&quot;? &quot;IN_PROGRESS&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or should we just leave it at &quot;TRIAGED&quot; and then let the maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i> change it to &quot;ASSIGNED&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>
+Thanks for taking it to this list :)
+
+Triaged is a keyword, though, we can't set bugs to a TRIAGED status. To
+make it confusing, assigned is a keyword we use when we assign a bug to
+a maintainer.
+What this was about, is the ASSIGNED status. According to bugzilla, an
+assigned bug remains NEW until the assignee decides what to do with it.
+Bugzilla doesn't say the assignee waits to accept until he/she starts
+working on it.
+
+*NEW*
+ This bug has recently been added to the assignee's list of bugs and
+ must be processed. Bugs in this state may be accepted, and become
+ *ASSIGNED*, passed on to someone else, and remain *NEW*, or resolved
+ and marked *RESOLVED*.
+
+BTW, I found this here:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status">https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status</A>
+
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+This afternoon I had some time to begin making a triage flowchart. I
+attached it. Are we allowed to send attachments on this mailing list? If
+you receive it, we are ;)
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+Of course it's only a start and not good yet (I should have used arrows
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+When we change the component of a bug like from Installer to RPM
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+do that and the bug is assigned to somebody, the change will assign
+again to bugsquad.
+
+And sorry for all the wrong component. We must indeed check that also
+more. :)
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+ <I>Tue Oct 4 19:22:08 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Op 04-10-11 18:34, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When we change the component of a bug like from Installer to RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> PACKAGE, we must shot the case &quot;Reset Assignee to default&quot;. If we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> do that and the bug is assigned to somebody, the change will assign
+</I>&gt;<i> again to bugsquad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And sorry for all the wrong component. We must indeed check that also
+</I>&gt;<i> more. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+So that's why bug 205 was assigned back to the bugsquad: it happened
+automatically because the component was corrected from installer to rpm
+packages.
+So I can reassign to Colin
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 10 19:46:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+This morning I sent this mail to Dan.
+
+He replied he thought this was a good idea and that he would try to make
+time for it.
+
+Who are willing to help him?
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+-------- Originele bericht --------
+Onderwerp: Triage: examples
+Datum: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:39:16 +0200
+Van: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+Aan: Dan-Marian Joita (dan) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+CC: Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+Hi Dan,
+
+Maybe we could work something out that you and an experienced Bug Squad
+member are on IRC at the same time and you could look at bugs together.
+
+Or I could help with looking at old bugs or at package requests together
+with you.
+
+I'm not good at triaging new bugs, so I can't help you with new bugs,
+but maybe someone more experienced could spare some time to help (and I
+could join and learn, too :) )
+
+Our irc channel is <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A>
+
+On working days you won't see much happening there. There is more
+activity in the evenings and in the weekend.
+
+What do you think of making an appointment for when you'd like to try
+this &quot;looking at a bug together&quot;?
+
+Best regards,
+Marja
+
+
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+
+We don't have meetings, even though we do have things to discuss and
+decide about.
+
+If you're a Bug Squad member and want to vote or discuss about our
+issues, please add yourself to the cc field of bug 3046
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046</A>
+
+and of the seperate issues (in seperate bug reports) that are going to
+be linked to that one and that you're interested in
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+-------- Originele bericht --------
+Onderwerp: [bugs] [Bug 3046] [New] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss
+items
+Datum: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:28:08 +0200
+Van: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Antwoord-naar: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Aan: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>
+
+
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046</A>
+
+ Summary: Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+ Product: Infrastructure
+ Version: unspecified
+ Platform: All
+ URL: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide</A>
+ OS/Version: Linux
+ Status: NEW
+ Severity: normal
+ Priority: Normal
+ Component: Bugzilla
+ AssignedTo: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+ ReportedBy: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>
+ CC: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">sysadmin-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A>
+
+
+This is a tracker bug for all the Need_discuss items at the end of the Triage
+guide (see link in URL field)
+
+All Bug Squad members are welcome to add their e-mailaddresses to the cc fields
+of this tracker bug and of the bug reports for the seperate items
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+ <I>Wed Oct 26 10:43:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Here's the new Bug_triage page
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+
+I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+I'd like to have some feed back first.
+Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+
+BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+(e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+</PRE>
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%201.%20Bug_triage%20page%20for%20new%20wiki%202.%20printer%0A%20issues&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA7DF4D.8070209%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Oct 26 12:22:05 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>I should have been more specific, Florian improved the hardware
+detection, printer and scanner problem parts of our triage guide, but
+those changes weren't made to the old triage guide
+
+Op 26-10-11 10:43, Marja van Waes schreef:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the new Bug_triage page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to have some feed back first.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 26 15:18:42 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 10:43 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the new Bug_triage page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to have some feed back first.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+</I>Thanks to him :)
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+</I>For
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+
+What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+the time updated ) ?
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>Op 26-10-11 15:18, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;<i> the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;<i> the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+&quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+delete key work in this situation?
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 16:14 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 26-10-11 15:18, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+</I>&gt;<i> types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+</I>&gt;<i> by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+</I>&gt;<i> to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+</I>&gt;<i> delete key work in this situation?
+</I>
+I wanted to talk about all the part of the 'debugging' help not just the
+installer part.
+
+For 'vug' versus 'bug' I don't know.
+
+
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+<PRE>Op 26-10-11 17:15, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 16:14 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op 26-10-11 15:18, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delete key work in this situation?
+</I>&gt;<i> I wanted to talk about all the part of the 'debugging' help not just the
+</I>&gt;<i> installer part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For 'vug' versus 'bug' I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+All debugging is fine with me
+
+btw, doktor5000 just told me he couldn't reproduce my vug - bug issue.
+It might be a special feature of my new laptop :(
+
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Bug%202157%20-%20Switch%20to%20%22standard%22%20rpm%20metadata%20for%0A%20package%20repositories%20in%20Mageia%202&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA97E3B.9070103%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+<PRE>What to do with this bug?
+
+Mageia 2 spec #034
+also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+
+Mageia repositories currently have a media_info dir which contains a
+line-oriented 'synthesis' file, plus some XML files with additional
+information like package descriptions, and a hdlist which AFAIK is not
+used by urpmi.
+
+Fedora and opensuse repositories do not use this format for metadata but
+instead have a repodata dir containing a 'primary' and other XML files,
+which are all listed in a 'rpomd.xml' file.
+
+The two schemes are similar which is not very surprising because the
+requirements are the same. Most package managers with rpm support can use
+the repomd style but urpmi can't. Only a few package managers support
+synthesis style metadata. Switching to this 'standard' repository metadata
+would give people more choice: use other package managers (e.g. yum or zypper)
+in mageia and use urpmi on other distros. In the long term this should help
+make urpmi easier to maintain: the &quot;standard&quot; metadata is a bit easier to
+extend,
+urpmi will be more a standard tool: behavior can easily be compared to other
+package managers, test suites may be shared.
+
+Some not very useful index size numbers for mga cauldron x86_64 core/release :
+1.7M synthesis.hdlist.cz
+1M info.xml.lzma
+5,6M changelog.xml.lzma
+8,7M files.xml.lzma
+
+4,4M primary.xml.gz
+3,4M other.xml.gz
+11M filelists.xml.gz (8,8M when compressed with xz)
+
+Goals:
+- no negative impact for people who use the default package tools
+- basic support for other package managers (yum, zypper, apt) in mageia 2
+ (better support where packagekit uses the package manager the user has
+ chosen is not part of this spec but could be a follow-up feature)
+
+the plan is:
+- modify urpmi to only support repomd metadata
+- add repomd metadata to the cauldron repository while keeping synthesis
+- upload the new urpmi
+- after either the mga2 or mga3 release:
+ drop synthesis/hdlist metadata from cauldron
+
+so there will be 1 or 2 stable releases that carry both types of
+repository metadata. The build infrastructure needs to support this of
+course. This adds some complexity and uses extra space on the mirrors.
+
+Things that need to be changed:
+- urpmi perl code
+- maybe a fast xml reader in C, like yum has ?
+- rpmdrake/installer ?
+- build system
+
+Open questions:
+- Is there anything I missed, unique urpmi features that will be broken by
+ such a change, other expected problems?
+- A volunteer is needed for writing the needed perl code for perl-URPM etc.,
+ otherwise the change won't happen.
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4EA97E3B.9070103 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>What to do with this bug?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Mageia 2 spec #034
+</I>&gt;<i>also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
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+I think this one is perfect for discussion on the developers list. Not
+sure what we do with it after it is discussed on there though...
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+&gt;<i> Op Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 05:52:27PM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4EA97E3B.9070103 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What to do with this bug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 spec #034
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this one is perfect for discussion on the developers list. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what we do with it after it is discussed on there though...
+</I>
+Thanks, sent to their ml :)
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+
+ 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+ 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+ 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+ irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+ closing a bug as duplicate?
+ 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+ another about how much is done (bug 3047
+ &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+
+I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I send a mail
+to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn to
+triage. No one replied.
+
+My ideas are:
+
+# 1 Postpone that subject again
+# 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+# 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think 1364
+should be closed
+# 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug squad
+_only for one or more of their own packages_
+# 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+either :(
+
+Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+The summary of last weeks meeting is attached. Sorry for not inviting
+you all to it.
+
+The participants (Leuhmanu, Remmy, Stormi and me) had decided to have
+that meeting a few hours before it started, no one had time to write an
+invitation to all Bug Squad members.
+
+Please complain if you feel ignored!
+
+It isn't sure yet when next meeting will be. Earlier this week, on IRC,
+we decided to discuss our meeting items on the mailing list first and to
+meet afterwards to take decisions. You received the list of subjects to
+be discussed yesterday.
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+between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're
+available.
+
+
+Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>5.
+&gt;<i> I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>
+6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+responsibility of the team members
+&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>#6 I think leaving this field blank, gives a bad first impression when
+someone who might want to join our team and who we'd really like to join
+us, visits our page.
+
+If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to become
+team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+(Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Horrible, I was too much in a hurry when I wrote the part about
+being/not being available for a meeting, sorry :-[
+It should be:
+
+Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday
+between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+
+
+Op 31-10-11 08:12, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Marja isn't available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except
+</I>&gt;<i> saturday between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're
+</I>&gt;<i> available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+</I>&gt;<i> responsibility of the team members
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>&gt;<i> #6 I think leaving this field blank, gives a bad first impression when
+</I>&gt;<i> someone who might want to join our team and who we'd really like to
+</I>&gt;<i> join us, visits our page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+</I>&gt;<i> enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 13:06:03 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 2 12:55:19 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 13:06:03 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 2 12:55:19 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01317552919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317552919-01317563788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317577898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050-01317587338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050-01317587338-01317587983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317587250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317653155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317653155-01317677152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317702855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317702855-01317704228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742-01317705290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742-01317705290-01317713101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317724735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317724735-01317727177- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317739765- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01317746091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317746091-01317748928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318268799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01318607423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319618619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319618619-01319624525- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01319618619-01319635122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447-01319642135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447-01319642135-01319654181- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319730747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319730747-01319731693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319730747-01319731693-01319780589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319819478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319819478-01320045160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319819478-01320045160-01320066378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319876833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 13:06:03 CET 2011</i>
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