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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
+stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
+
+We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
+say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
+packages have found a maintainer.
+
+See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt</A> for the list of orphan
+packages.
+
+Out of 57 packagers with submit rights (I might have missed a few that got
+submit rights recently, but it wont change the results much):
+- 35 are now &quot;full&quot; (or even took too much packages)
+- 11 answered at some point that they were going to have a look at the list
+and maybe grab more packages, but didn't give me feedback after that, even
+after a new mail sent. We can suppose that they are now &quot;full&quot; too.
+- 6 are inactive (no packaging in months)
+- 5 well-known active packagers never answered in 3 months either to the
+mailing list or to my direct mails (sent at @mageia.org addresses), which is a
+bit disappointing considering the amount of time I put into this campaign, but
+I want to thank the vast majority who was really willing to help in this
+campaign.
+
+The conclusion is that for most packagers the maintainers database is now up
+to date, with maybe a few more orphan packages that could find a maintainer,
+but not a lot.
+
+I would have liked that there be no need for such a campaign, but events
+showed that there's a real need for someone who sends reminders to the mailing
+lists, pings packagers, points out important orphan packages. Waiting for
+things to solve themselves doesn't work :) However, this demands a lot of
+energy and I would be glad if someone could replace me in this task, because I
+lack time to develop Mageia App Db. I volunteered only because there was a gap
+to fulfill, but would be glad to see someone else become the official Orphan
+Packages Protector.
+
+His/her work would be the following:
+- identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
+unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
+- do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
+situation,
+- try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
+make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
+- try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
+
+I'm willing to help with advice or tools but would like to not be the person
+in charge, if possible, so that I can really make the Mageia App Db available
+before Mageia 2.
+
+Does someone volunteer? It is a job that demands a lot of energy and
+confidence, but I think it would be a really useful contribution. Bugsquad is
+already doing part of this, but they have other duties, so someone dedicated
+to this task could maybe help.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>Funda Wang</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20adoption%20campaign%2C%0A%093%20months%20later&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QTVZK94fnJr-uE-Mg8ggjxGWd5yesZebZ0HCOMyS7_VvA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>2011/12/8 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> His/her work would be the following:
+</I>&gt;<i> - identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
+</I>&gt;<i> - do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
+</I>&gt;<i> situation,
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
+</I>&gt;<i> make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
+</I>I would suggest that registering nobody as a mailing list, so that
+every interested packagers could join to help.
+
+Of course, I'll happy doing this work. As what I'm currently doing.
+But I don't have time doing works regarding solving bugs, cause it is
+very difficult to fix bugs belonging to orphan packages.
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20adoption%20campaign%2C%0A%093%20months%20later&In-Reply-To=%3C4EE21123.3040909%40doc.ic.ac.uk%3E"
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+<PRE>On 08/12/11 10:04, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
+</I>&gt;<i> stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
+</I>&gt;<i> say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
+</I>&gt;<i> packages have found a maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt</A> for the list of orphan
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+Hi Stormi/list,
+I'm an apprentice of Shlomif and will graduate soon (just waiting for sysadmin
+to give the full rights).
+I will then take over most of the ocaml-related packages (around 40/50ish
+packages). I hope it'll take us under 2000 unmaintained packages.
+Next target 1000 ...
+Best,
+--
+Malo
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+ <h1>December 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Dec 8 11:04:20 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 15:35:23 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 3<p>
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+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Dec 9 15:35:23 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:23:48 CEST 2012</i>
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