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+ <B>Luc Menut</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jun 30 00:14:12 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le 29/06/2011 15:20, Dexter Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Thorsten van Lil&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, I doesn't like ia-ora either. And I'm with Dexter. We need coherency.
+</I>
+It's probably better if we have a same look between the desktop
+environments, but personnaly I don't think it's mandatory.
+I just take a look at some screenshots of last release of Fedora,
+OpenSuse and Ubuntu/Kubuntu; they don't use the same window decoration
+for Gnome and Kde.
+
+But we absolutly need to have in a given desktop environment, a coherent
+look for qt4, gtk2 and gtk3 applications.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> So to sums things up, we need a window-decoration, which is available for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde(and qt), gtk2, and gtk3, or an engine which allows to use a kde theme in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gtk (or vice versa).
+</I>
+I'm now quite reluctant with such engine, after the catastrophic
+experience we had with gtk-qt-engine in KDE4. I really prefer use native
+engine for each GUI toolkit (like it is done by oxygen's team with
+oxygen-gtk).
+
+So one of us, should collect the available decorations
+&gt;&gt;<i> which fits these requirements.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva has a new theme in KDE, which looks very similar to the new GNOME3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> decoration. So there should be probably some solutions, without to much work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen is the best because it answer to all you pre requires:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1- Oxygen is in heavy development so bugs will be fixed easily
+</I>&gt;<i> 2- Oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3 are done by the same devs as oxygen for
+</I>&gt;<i> kde ( so point 1 is also valid )
+</I>&gt;<i> 3- Oxygen use all kde functionnalities ( like tab grouping, ... )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we should adopt oxygen for mageia2 ( and after ) and more
+</I>&gt;<i> focus about colour palettes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm of course fully agree with this proposal :-). If gnome's
+maintainers and users are agree to use oxygen style in gnome, it's perfect.
+
+regards,
+Luc
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