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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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Users will have to +</I>><i> use a separate account and password for the forums. That's already +</I>><i> what they have to do if they want to use forums in other languages +</I>><i> than english and german. And after looking at database dumps from phpbb, +</I>><i> it seems it contains hash of user passwords although we are using ldap +</I>><i> for authentication, so using ldap authentication with phpbb is maybe +</I>><i> not a good idea for security anyway. +</I>><i> - they use their own server, or we provide them a VM on sucuk while +</I>><i> they don't have one +</I>><i> - they install the forums however they want, and manage them however +</I>><i> they want +</I>><i> - they use a separate domain name like mageia-forums.org or something +</I>><i> else. We can add a redirect from <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org/{en,de">http://forums.mageia.org/{en,de</A>}/ to +</I>><i> the new URL until all references to the old URLs are removed. On +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org/">http://forums.mageia.org/</A> homepage we put a listing of all Mageia +</I>><i> community forums +</I>><i> - we provide them a dump of the current forums, after cleaning user +</I>><i> passwords, and they do the install and import of the database on +</I>><i> a new forum themself +</I>><i> - we are not responsible for anything on the new forums +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do you think about this ? +</I> +"Do not like the setup" seems to be the wrong expression, although the +past may have caused this impression. But what is the background of +this situation? IMHO it is not the system as it is, it is rather the +lack of organisation. + +Past turbulences were mainly caused by + - a technical forum admin who was not available in the way he should +have been and had not enough skills to do the work + - a bad communication between this technical forum admin and the +sysadmin group + - lack of a dedicated sysadmin to respond to the needs of the forum admin. + +If we have + - a technical forum admin (with or without helpers) who prepares code +changes and talks to a dedicated sysadmin + - a dedicated sysadmin who implements the prepared changes within a +reasonable time span +everything is ok. + +BTW: I've been wasting a lot of time with this issue a year ago and +like you I am tired of writing the same sentences all over again. +Still IMHO there's no need to throw out the baby with the bath water + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004731.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of the forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004733.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of the forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4729">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4729">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4729">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4729">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |