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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 09 May 2011, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
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+&gt;<i> pterjan at gmail.com (Pascal Terjan) (pterjan at gmail.com (Pascal Terjan)) wrote on 4 May 2011 22:02:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 21:40, Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&lt;nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * nicolas vigier (boklm at mars-attacks.org) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; As we have a proposal for a new Tier1 mirror, we need to decide how many
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; tier1 mirrors we want. And maybe rules for minimal bw available on those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; mirrors, and minimal refresh time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I think we can try to have one Tier1 mirror in :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ?- europe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ?- south america
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ?- asia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ?- us
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ?- africa
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The goal was to limit the count of tier1 to avoid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - big bandwidth usage to our providers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - having a lot of mirrors to contact in case of change on our side.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I don't see interest to have more primary mirror, especially in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; africa or asia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Having better ones would be nice...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;We currently have 3 tier1 mirrors, 2 of them have only 100Mbit and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;third one only syncs once a day so is useless.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;In asia, people in asia who want to provide a mirror have to sync from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;the chinese one which only have 100Mbit and is not primary
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;In south america syncing from Europe is awful, and there is no up to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;date mirror in US, so I doubt we get much mirrors in America if we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;don't get proper primary one...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ibiblio provides only basic service, it's not adequate for a tier1,
+</I>&gt;<i> where commitment is necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When mageia.c3sl.ufpr.br is registered we can take care of the whole
+</I>&gt;<i> South America. Since we have a 5Gb/s connection to Miami, I think we
+</I>&gt;<i> can also serve North America adequately, even if it's not optimal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think a tier1 mirror should indeed meet some requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> - minimum bandwidth
+</I>&gt;<i> - mirror all of the repository, to allow other mirrors update from
+</I>&gt;<i> them
+</I>&gt;<i> - update frequency
+</I>
+Good idea.
+
+For tier1 :
+- minimum BW: 1Gb/s ?
+- update frequency: 15mn ?
+
+Maybe we can also have requirement for non-tier1 :
+- minimum BW: 10Mb/s ?
+- update frequency: 5 hours ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not only bandwidth on the master that limits the number of
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors, it's also the very expensive disk scans caused by rsync. It's
+</I>&gt;<i> sometimes a bigger problem than bandwidth.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, you say that 700GB are necessary, however the repository is only
+</I>&gt;<i> 73GB now. Unless Jussieu is not complete.
+</I>
+The repository is currently 63GB, but we only have cauldron for now. At
+release 1 and for each new release the repository will be forked.
+Updates and backports repositories will be added. Maybe new
+architectures like ARM will be added on the mirrors. So size will
+increase with time, and can reach something like 700GB after a few
+years and releases. Maybe README file should be updated to explain this.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About the update frequency, you might want to provide triggering for
+</I>&gt;<i> the tier1s. It makes updates much more efficient. Some distros use it
+</I>&gt;<i> and for Debian it's a requirement for a tier1.
+</I>
+Interesting. The &quot;Push Mirroring&quot; ?
+<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/mirror/push_mirroring">http://www.debian.org/mirror/push_mirroring</A>
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