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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+ <I>Thu Aug 18 21:34:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:46:06 -0400, John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mikala at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Since most of actors of the QA are simply installing all packages from
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing (like me) none of us noticed that it would break
+</I>&gt;<i> without KDE 4.6.5 installed and when probably for first updates
+</I>&gt;<i> people are using a &#171; fresh Mageia 1&#187; , with several packages in
+</I>&gt;<i> updates_testing in the same moment we can't really expect them to
+</I>&gt;<i> removed or reinstall/restore a Mageia 1 for every package available in
+</I>&gt;<i> testing.
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+Ouch. Guilty.
+
+Proper testing would require keeping an image that only gets updated when
+packages are pushed from Testing to Updates, and always using that as a
+starting point when installing an update from Testing.
+
+For people who can run Mageia under VirtualBox, it would simply be a matter
+of using snapshots, to maintain the testing environment (for updates that
+don't require access to real hardware). For those of us who can't, we'll
+have to handle that with equivalent imaging/restore.
+
+In most cases updates don't interfere with each other, and the current
+system is ok.
+
+Large updates, like kde, which affect a large number of packages, and take
+quite a bit of time to test, are different.
+
+Creating a separate repository, just for that type update, is a very good
+idea, as it makes it much easier to install all of that update, and only that
+update, and would simplify ensuring all needed packages are selected, when
+pushing from updates testing to updates.
+
+I'm in favour of using a separate repository. If mostly automated, that
+would be good for all updates. If it's going to require more work for
+the developers though, it may be better to only use the separate repository
+for large updates like kde.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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