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authorNicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org>2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">Add mandriva backport but containing more software (vlc, mplayer, smplayer, etc ...) to the extent it does not break the system.<br></span></span><div id="gt-res-content" class="almost_half_cell" style="">
+<div dir="ltr" style=""><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">This deposit would be enabled by default in the system.</span></span></div></div><br>
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">Add mandriva backport but containing more software (vlc, mplayer, smplayer, etc ...) to the extent it does not break the system.<br></span></span><div id="gt-res-content" class="almost_half_cell" style="">
+<div dir="ltr" style=""><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">This deposit would be enabled by default in the system.</span></span></div></div><br>
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+In my opinion, in terms of logo, gejo&#39;s art (<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(6, 88, 181); ">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a></span>) is very cool. Others arts could be the wallpaper or others artistics elements of distribution.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Dale Huckeby <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Felix Martos wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a<br>
+penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br></div>
+Penguin images are cute and cuddly but are precisely what have made past logos look dorky. I like the<br>
+image just as it is. It evokes the idea of magic without looking silly. Really good design.<br><font color="#888888">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+In my opinion, in terms of logo, gejo&#39;s art (<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(6, 88, 181); ">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a></span>) is very cool. Others arts could be the wallpaper or others artistics elements of distribution.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Dale Huckeby <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Felix Martos wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a<br>
+penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br></div>
+Penguin images are cute and cuddly but are precisely what have made past logos look dorky. I like the<br>
+image just as it is. It evokes the idea of magic without looking silly. Really good design.<br><font color="#888888">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+Bonjour, <br><br>Merci pour l&#39;initiative Mageia, j&#39;espre que cette nouvelle distribution sera de type rolling release.<br>Ou si ce n&#39;est pas le cas, faites un dpt jour pour les applications phare comme vlc, firefox etc...<br>
+Cela attirera normment d&#39;utilisateur et vous dmarquera des 700 distributions existantes.<br>Cordialement,<br><br>HacKurx<br>
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+Bonjour, <br><br>Merci pour l&#39;initiative Mageia, j&#39;espre que cette nouvelle distribution sera de type rolling release.<br>Ou si ce n&#39;est pas le cas, faites un dpt jour pour les applications phare comme vlc, firefox etc...<br>
+Cela attirera normment d&#39;utilisateur et vous dmarquera des 700 distributions existantes.<br>Cordialement,<br><br>HacKurx<br>
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+I have been a linux user for 11 years now. I first startedwithredhat and quickly moved on to Mandrake because it was geared more to the desktop. This was back in 1999. I think I have tried almost every linux distro to come out but always came back to mandrake/mandriva. My training is in computer tech, hardware, not software but I have no problem helping people figure out how to do something in Linux. I would love to be involved with this new distro right from the beginning so if the people in charge see this, just let me know how I can help.<div>
+<br></div><div>Walt</div>
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+I have been a linux user for 11 years now. I first startedwithredhat and quickly moved on to Mandrake because it was geared more to the desktop. This was back in 1999. I think I have tried almost every linux distro to come out but always came back to mandrake/mandriva. My training is in computer tech, hardware, not software but I have no problem helping people figure out how to do something in Linux. I would love to be involved with this new distro right from the beginning so if the people in charge see this, just let me know how I can help.<div>
+<br></div><div>Walt</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, André Machado a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top"><div class="im">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br></div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that&#39;s why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that&#39;ll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><div>My two cents:</div><div><br></div><div>We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou&#39; there was speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it&#39;s community.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, André Machado a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top"><div class="im">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br></div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that&#39;s why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that&#39;ll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><div>My two cents:</div><div><br></div><div>We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou&#39; there was speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it&#39;s community.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I want to be clear I wasn't suggesting replacing urpmi..more of a concern that one or more of the dev's onboard can maintain/improve on it over time. :) and was offing a possible alternative if not.<br>Once Mageia is rolling along I'd like to see some enhancements for the gui in the mcc like Smart offers.. downgrading, locking packages, the ability<br>to see the other packages(even if older) not just the current and possible upgrade. I know you can hunt down the urpmi skip list and edit it manually <br>or downgrade through the cli but neither is beginner friendly.. Also the information in easy to read tabs you can see the full dependencies, what if replaces what it needs.. Again that info is retrievable from the cli...gui not so much.<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Maarten Vanraes" &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:29:01 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools<br><br>Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef André Salaün:<br>&gt; Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt; a écrit:<br>&gt; &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;tux99-mga@uridium.org&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Regards,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Jan<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am<br>&gt; &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?<br><br>urpmi can do that too<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I want to be clear I wasn't suggesting replacing urpmi..more of a concern that one or more of the dev's onboard can maintain/improve on it over time. :) and was offing a possible alternative if not.<br>Once Mageia is rolling along I'd like to see some enhancements for the gui in the mcc like Smart offers.. downgrading, locking packages, the ability<br>to see the other packages(even if older) not just the current and possible upgrade. I know you can hunt down the urpmi skip list and edit it manually <br>or downgrade through the cli but neither is beginner friendly.. Also the information in easy to read tabs you can see the full dependencies, what if replaces what it needs.. Again that info is retrievable from the cli...gui not so much.<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Maarten Vanraes" &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:29:01 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools<br><br>Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef André Salaün:<br>&gt; Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt; a écrit:<br>&gt; &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;tux99-mga@uridium.org&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Regards,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Jan<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am<br>&gt; &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?<br><br>urpmi can do that too<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+The second is here...<br><br><a href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/">http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/</a><br><br>
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+The second is here...<br><br><a href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/">http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/</a><br><br>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Hi!</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><br /></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Saludos ;)</p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of 'g' should be longer. But I'm not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a écrit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Hi!</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><br /></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Saludos ;)</p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of 'g' should be longer. But I'm not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a écrit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+Yeah, you should stick a fork into it.;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; Oh, very cool!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.<br>
+But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+Yeah, you should stick a fork into it.;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; Oh, very cool!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.<br>
+But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
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+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikMV+9KX1pzfkPE7-mdO7mgzzv3BwjnRh9Bb9L5@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikMV+9KX1pzfkPE7-mdO7mgzzv3BwjnRh9Bb9L5@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Very beaufitul! I LOVE the KMenu icon! ^^<br /><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Nuno Pinheiro</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 19:52</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a container of anything http://i0.simplest-image- hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Very beaufitul! I LOVE the KMenu icon! ^^<br /><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Nuno Pinheiro</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 19:52</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a container of anything http://i0.simplest-image- hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+Hi everybody, I am Gonzalo Igartua aka GregoryBravas.<br><br>I am working with <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> (spanish speakers mandriva community ) since 4 years ago, like Admin .<br><br><span dir="ltr" id=":21i">I am very excited about this project, </span>becouse <span dir="ltr" id=":21i">previously I was disagree with many of decisions mandriva company, </span><span dir="ltr" id=":21i">I think this is a good opportunity</span><span dir="ltr" id=":21i"> to do things our way.<br>
+<br><br>I can colaborate with help users support (forums), and packaging programs (repositories).<br><br><br>Cheers<br></span>
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+Hi everybody, I am Gonzalo Igartua aka GregoryBravas.<br><br>I am working with <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> (spanish speakers mandriva community ) since 4 years ago, like Admin .<br><br><span dir="ltr" id=":21i">I am very excited about this project, </span>becouse <span dir="ltr" id=":21i">previously I was disagree with many of decisions mandriva company, </span><span dir="ltr" id=":21i">I think this is a good opportunity</span><span dir="ltr" id=":21i"> to do things our way.<br>
+<br><br>I can colaborate with help users support (forums), and packaging programs (repositories).<br><br><br>Cheers<br></span>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!<br><br>At the future, once solved the issue about edu,mageia.org or mageia.org/edu, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place, with domains just pointing to your right page.<br><br>Suggestions and examples:<br><br>If edu.mageia.org be addopted, we can create something like www.mageia.org/pt-br for Brazil Portuguese website version and edu.mageia.org/pt-br would be the edu.mageia.org portuguese version of that page. Thus, www.mageia.com.br would points to mageia,org/edu.<br><br>&nbsp;If we <span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">would convince</span></span> all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole thing would be more organized and economical, because
+ they wouldn't pay for a host.<br><br>I guess what Mandriva website is tis way. <br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17<br><br><div id="yiv313630338">
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre><fieldset class="yiv313630338mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.mageia.nl">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+ Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+
+</div><br>-----Anexo incorporado-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
+ &nbsp; \ No newline at end of file
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!<br><br>At the future, once solved the issue about edu,mageia.org or mageia.org/edu, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place, with domains just pointing to your right page.<br><br>Suggestions and examples:<br><br>If edu.mageia.org be addopted, we can create something like www.mageia.org/pt-br for Brazil Portuguese website version and edu.mageia.org/pt-br would be the edu.mageia.org portuguese version of that page. Thus, www.mageia.com.br would points to mageia,org/edu.<br><br>&nbsp;If we <span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">would convince</span></span> all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole thing would be more organized and economical, because
+ they wouldn't pay for a host.<br><br>I guess what Mandriva website is tis way. <br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17<br><br><div id="yiv313630338">
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre><fieldset class="yiv313630338mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.mageia.nl">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv313630338moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+ Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+
+</div><br>-----Anexo incorporado-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+Oh, very cool!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 gejo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br>
+I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+<a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+<br>
+Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+<br>
+I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Thanks.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+Oh, very cool!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 gejo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br>
+I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+<a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+<br>
+Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+<br>
+I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Thanks.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br><br>Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.<br><br>Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.<br></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br><br>Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.<br><br>Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.<br></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+As soon we&#39;ll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution<br>
+will start we&#39;ll need a way to distribute it.<br>
+So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the<br>
+mirror management and will make some suggestion.<br>
+<br>
+Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.<br>
+<br>
+1) The mirror content:<br>
+- distribution<br>
+  - devel one<br>
+  - stable one<br>
+<br>
+is there enything else (patch, our own applications as source,<br>
+documentation as flat html file) ?<br>
+<br>
+We also have to define the rules making a mirror valid and avoid<br>
+differences between them.<br>
+<br>
+2) The logical mirroring process<br>
+<br>
+The proposal is to have a safe and access limited rsync server<br>
+containing the tree (<a href="http://rsync.mageia.org" target="_blank">rsync.mageia.org</a> ?). Mirroring from this one can<br>
+only be done after being authorized by our team.<br>
+<br>
+At second level, rsync&#39;d from this safe server some referenced servers<br>
+open to the world for all other mirrors (distrib-coffee could be one of<br>
+them). The manager of these servers must be reachable, then we need to<br>
+know them.<br>
+<br>
+So at the end all others mirrors from where everyone can fetch the<br>
+distribution, and anyone could freely setup a such mirror.<br>
+<br>
+3) Listing mirrors<br>
+<br>
+I do think registering mirrors could be done by anyone, once the mirror<br>
+is availlable.<br>
+<br>
+So i suggest to have a web application to allow mirror registration.<br>
+After submission a post process could verify the URL validity and if<br>
+everything is ok the new mirror would appear in official list.<br>
+<br>
+The main point of this idea is to not force mirrors admin to registering<br>
+on any bug tracker or anything else.<br>
+<br>
+The second goal of such application is of course to monitor them and<br>
+alert when they are down or out of sync.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Feel free to comment. I&#39;ll be carrefully reading this thread !<br>
+<br>
+Regards.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+<br>
+Olivier Thauvin<br>
+CNRS  -  LATMOS<br>
+♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br>Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already several other sites mirroring it.<br>
+<br>Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the mirrors.<br><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</a><br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+As soon we&#39;ll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution<br>
+will start we&#39;ll need a way to distribute it.<br>
+So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the<br>
+mirror management and will make some suggestion.<br>
+<br>
+Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.<br>
+<br>
+1) The mirror content:<br>
+- distribution<br>
+  - devel one<br>
+  - stable one<br>
+<br>
+is there enything else (patch, our own applications as source,<br>
+documentation as flat html file) ?<br>
+<br>
+We also have to define the rules making a mirror valid and avoid<br>
+differences between them.<br>
+<br>
+2) The logical mirroring process<br>
+<br>
+The proposal is to have a safe and access limited rsync server<br>
+containing the tree (<a href="http://rsync.mageia.org" target="_blank">rsync.mageia.org</a> ?). Mirroring from this one can<br>
+only be done after being authorized by our team.<br>
+<br>
+At second level, rsync&#39;d from this safe server some referenced servers<br>
+open to the world for all other mirrors (distrib-coffee could be one of<br>
+them). The manager of these servers must be reachable, then we need to<br>
+know them.<br>
+<br>
+So at the end all others mirrors from where everyone can fetch the<br>
+distribution, and anyone could freely setup a such mirror.<br>
+<br>
+3) Listing mirrors<br>
+<br>
+I do think registering mirrors could be done by anyone, once the mirror<br>
+is availlable.<br>
+<br>
+So i suggest to have a web application to allow mirror registration.<br>
+After submission a post process could verify the URL validity and if<br>
+everything is ok the new mirror would appear in official list.<br>
+<br>
+The main point of this idea is to not force mirrors admin to registering<br>
+on any bug tracker or anything else.<br>
+<br>
+The second goal of such application is of course to monitor them and<br>
+alert when they are down or out of sync.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Feel free to comment. I&#39;ll be carrefully reading this thread !<br>
+<br>
+Regards.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+<br>
+Olivier Thauvin<br>
+CNRS  -  LATMOS<br>
+♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br>Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already several other sites mirroring it.<br>
+<br>Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the mirrors.<br><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</a><br><br>
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+<p>I fully agree. Usability has to triumph over ideology. Adhering to the FSF guidelines will needlessly shackle the distro into ideological issues. Something we can do without. </p>
+<p>Maybe we need to come out with a charter, manifesto of some sorts that defines the target of the distro. I have noticed many questioning the existence of Mageia...considering the plethora of options available...like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian etc. Fedora has the the bleeding edge, Ubuntu has the refined and polished look while Debian has its ideological purity of DFSG. </p>
+
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 19-Sep-2010 8:46 AM, &quot;Jeremiah Summers&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jmiahman@gmail.com">jmiahman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><p><font color="#500050">&gt; &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<a href="mailto:pravi.a@gmail.com">pravi.a@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,<br>&gt;...</font></p><div><br>Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes to usability. Let&#39;s look at it from a community stand point and not some hippies agenda. Thanks.<br>
+
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>I fully agree. Usability has to triumph over ideology. Adhering to the FSF guidelines will needlessly shackle the distro into ideological issues. Something we can do without. </p>
+<p>Maybe we need to come out with a charter, manifesto of some sorts that defines the target of the distro. I have noticed many questioning the existence of Mageia...considering the plethora of options available...like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian etc. Fedora has the the bleeding edge, Ubuntu has the refined and polished look while Debian has its ideological purity of DFSG. </p>
+
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 19-Sep-2010 8:46 AM, &quot;Jeremiah Summers&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jmiahman@gmail.com">jmiahman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><p><font color="#500050">&gt; &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<a href="mailto:pravi.a@gmail.com">pravi.a@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,<br>&gt;...</font></p><div><br>Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes to usability. Let&#39;s look at it from a community stand point and not some hippies agenda. Thanks.<br>
+
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Matthew Dawkins &lt;<a href="mailto:mattydaw@gmail.com">mattydaw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org"><a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+As soon we'll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution<br>
+will start we'll need a way to distribute it.<br>
+So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the<br>
+mirror management and will make some suggestion.<br>
+<br>
+Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.<br>
+<br>
+1) The mirror content:<br>
+- distribution<br>
+ &nbsp;- devel one<br>
+ &nbsp;- stable one<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#888888"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0023A3"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#005001"><br></font></font></font></blockquote></div>Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already several other sites mirroring it.<br>
+<br>Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the mirrors.<br><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html"><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</a></a><br></div></blockquote><br><div>+1 to ibiblio.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone have a contact with ibiblio?</div><div><br></div><div>I used to know some guys in there, a few years ago. I still have a shell account in there. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So if we have no current contacts, I can try to find someone at ibiblio.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Salut,</div><div>Sinner</div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Matthew Dawkins &lt;<a href="mailto:mattydaw@gmail.com">mattydaw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org"><a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+As soon we'll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution<br>
+will start we'll need a way to distribute it.<br>
+So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the<br>
+mirror management and will make some suggestion.<br>
+<br>
+Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.<br>
+<br>
+1) The mirror content:<br>
+- distribution<br>
+ &nbsp;- devel one<br>
+ &nbsp;- stable one<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#888888"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0023A3"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#005001"><br></font></font></font></blockquote></div>Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already several other sites mirroring it.<br>
+<br>Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the mirrors.<br><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html"><a href="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</a></a><br></div></blockquote><br><div>+1 to ibiblio.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone have a contact with ibiblio?</div><div><br></div><div>I used to know some guys in there, a few years ago. I still have a shell account in there. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So if we have no current contacts, I can try to find someone at ibiblio.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Salut,</div><div>Sinner</div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Dino Edwards <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net">dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
+
+<div>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">I have some resources (albeit limited) that Im
+willing to offer to get this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a
+datacenter. I can offer free hosting and space so you can deploy servers you
+may need for this project. They are not monster machines but I think they can
+be useful.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your proposal ! we are working on a more general plan to collect all necessary ressources</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">I can also offer to write how-tos and guides in
+English and maybe Greek (got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and
+advice on strategy and management and implementation of various projects.</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Great, we will need you :) Stay tuned we will start soon to give more information to organize contributions</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">Dino Edwards (deeztek)</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">+00-1-443-203-9415</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+</div>
+
+</div>
+
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Dino Edwards <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net">dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
+
+<div>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">I have some resources (albeit limited) that Im
+willing to offer to get this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a
+datacenter. I can offer free hosting and space so you can deploy servers you
+may need for this project. They are not monster machines but I think they can
+be useful.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your proposal ! we are working on a more general plan to collect all necessary ressources</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">I can also offer to write how-tos and guides in
+English and maybe Greek (got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and
+advice on strategy and management and implementation of various projects.</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Great, we will need you :) Stay tuned we will start soon to give more information to organize contributions</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">Dino Edwards (deeztek)</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal">+00-1-443-203-9415</p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
+
+</div>
+
+</div>
+
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png"><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a></a><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Most excellent *original* artwork!!!<div><br></div><div>Salut,</div><div>Sinner<br><br><div><br></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png"><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a></a><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Most excellent *original* artwork!!!<div><br></div><div>Salut,</div><div>Sinner<br><br><div><br></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTi=PwOjSLCqNPvkKBKf8_qnoDOGdGyEUKrkz9t6d@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span
+ dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font face="Liberation
+ Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I
+ am just reconnecting to numeric reality, including more
+ than 272 mails in my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there
+ have been fantastic submissions and proposals for our
+ brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform
+ for such a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a>
+ website, but I am not sure it will be available soon to
+ us, our project still has no structure. So I think we need
+ to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+ open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo
+ submissions and allow comments for each of them to make
+ them better and finally decide in a more convenient place.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with
+ flickr, but I am not. So if someone has the time, I think
+ it would be really helpfull &nbsp;to open a dedicated and clear
+ flickr page to submit all the suggested logos, and to
+ place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ </font></div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo
+ proposals ?</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">&nbsp;<font face="Liberation
+ Sans"><br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font> </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ ----------
+ <div>Anne</div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ This is exactly what I suggested. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
+ :-) </span></span><br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTi=PwOjSLCqNPvkKBKf8_qnoDOGdGyEUKrkz9t6d@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span
+ dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font face="Liberation
+ Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I
+ am just reconnecting to numeric reality, including more
+ than 272 mails in my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there
+ have been fantastic submissions and proposals for our
+ brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform
+ for such a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a>
+ website, but I am not sure it will be available soon to
+ us, our project still has no structure. So I think we need
+ to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+ open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo
+ submissions and allow comments for each of them to make
+ them better and finally decide in a more convenient place.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with
+ flickr, but I am not. So if someone has the time, I think
+ it would be really helpfull &nbsp;to open a dedicated and clear
+ flickr page to submit all the suggested logos, and to
+ place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ </font></div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo
+ proposals ?</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">&nbsp;<font face="Liberation
+ Sans"><br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font> </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ ----------
+ <div>Anne</div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ This is exactly what I suggested. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
+ :-) </span></span><br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+just a quick test<br>
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+<div>i hope so too !<br></div><div>... soon at <a href="http://mageia-gr.org">mageia-gr.org</a></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
+2010/9/18 SinnerBOFH <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br><br></div><div><br>On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com" target="_blank">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
+<div><div>Hi !</div><div>You can find the greek translation here:<br clear="all"></div><div><a href="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt" target="_blank">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</a></div>
+<div><br></div>
+<br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div></div></blockquote><br><div>Hope the new name gets a big support from <span>Hellenic Penguins :-)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Salut,</span></div><div><span>Sinner</span></div>
+</div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br><br>
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+<div>i hope so too !<br></div><div>... soon at <a href="http://mageia-gr.org">mageia-gr.org</a></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
+2010/9/18 SinnerBOFH <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br><br></div><div><br>On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com" target="_blank">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
+<div><div>Hi !</div><div>You can find the greek translation here:<br clear="all"></div><div><a href="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt" target="_blank">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</a></div>
+<div><br></div>
+<br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div></div></blockquote><br><div>Hope the new name gets a big support from <span>Hellenic Penguins :-)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Salut,</span></div><div><span>Sinner</span></div>
+</div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br><br>
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+In <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> we have a little repository for mandriva.<br><br>One important point was games <br><br><a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/</a><br>
+<br><a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/</a><br><br>Performous, RigsofRods, Frogatto, gkaraoke, naev,zaz and more<br><br>Like packager I am very interested <span dir="ltr" id=":2jp">in bringing games.<br>
+<br>All packages of our repository </span> <span dir="ltr" id=":2jp">will be part of</span> mageia repositories<br><span dir="ltr" id=":2jp"><br>Cheers<br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Samuel Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stormi@laposte.net">stormi@laposte.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 13:19:11, vous avez crit :<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 04:20:21 schreef Samuel Verschelde:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a crit :<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Hello all,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; my important points are:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; of<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; board members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; could register for voting and vote one or more members)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * hyping! PR!<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * upgradable from mdv<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * policies!<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * diff between mdv<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * policy on gaming packages?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * patented software? (PLF?)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * free/non-free<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; can!<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean by<br>
+&gt; &gt; &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Regards<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Samuel<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; This is a personal pov for myself. do we have enough diskspace to package<br>
+&gt; games as well? should we do some kind of special packaging policy for content<br>
+&gt; packages? etc... in the past with mdv there has been concerns about big<br>
+&gt; packages and the required disk space, etc... in my pov games are an important<br>
+&gt; element of the targeted public.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>My packaging work being mainly focused on games, I cannot disagree :)<br>
+<br>
+Regards<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Samuel<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+In <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> we have a little repository for mandriva.<br><br>One important point was games <br><br><a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/</a><br>
+<br><a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/</a><br><br>Performous, RigsofRods, Frogatto, gkaraoke, naev,zaz and more<br><br>Like packager I am very interested <span dir="ltr" id=":2jp">in bringing games.<br>
+<br>All packages of our repository </span> <span dir="ltr" id=":2jp">will be part of</span> mageia repositories<br><span dir="ltr" id=":2jp"><br>Cheers<br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Samuel Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stormi@laposte.net">stormi@laposte.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 13:19:11, vous avez crit :<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 04:20:21 schreef Samuel Verschelde:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a crit :<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Hello all,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; my important points are:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; of<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; board members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; could register for voting and vote one or more members)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * hyping! PR!<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * upgradable from mdv<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * policies!<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * diff between mdv<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * policy on gaming packages?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * patented software? (PLF?)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * free/non-free<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; can!<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean by<br>
+&gt; &gt; &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Regards<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Samuel<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; This is a personal pov for myself. do we have enough diskspace to package<br>
+&gt; games as well? should we do some kind of special packaging policy for content<br>
+&gt; packages? etc... in the past with mdv there has been concerns about big<br>
+&gt; packages and the required disk space, etc... in my pov games are an important<br>
+&gt; element of the targeted public.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>My packaging work being mainly focused on games, I cannot disagree :)<br>
+<br>
+Regards<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Samuel<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title=""></span><span title="">In my opinion, we should opt for usability. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Unfortunately, we can not even use a software free proprietary drivers. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">My computer, for example, has a video card that is supported only by Mandriva and Opensuse because still do not have free drivers for her.<br>
+
+<br><br></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Jeremiah Summers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jmiahman@gmail.com">jmiahman@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>
+&gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<a href="mailto:pravi.a@gmail.com" target="_blank">pravi.a@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our<br>
+&gt;&gt; distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved<br>
+&gt;&gt; distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro<br>
+&gt;&gt; (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close<br>
+&gt;&gt; already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from<br>
+&gt;&gt; the kernel.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Here is the FSF guidelines<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Can we commit to these guidelines?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Thanks<br>
+&gt;&gt; Praveen<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes to usability. Let&#39;s look at it from a community stand point and not some hippies agenda. Thanks.<br>
+
+
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
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+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Aracele Torres<br><a href="http://cibermundi.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://cibermundi.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title=""></span><span title="">In my opinion, we should opt for usability. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Unfortunately, we can not even use a software free proprietary drivers. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">My computer, for example, has a video card that is supported only by Mandriva and Opensuse because still do not have free drivers for her.<br>
+
+<br><br></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Jeremiah Summers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jmiahman@gmail.com">jmiahman@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>
+&gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<a href="mailto:pravi.a@gmail.com" target="_blank">pravi.a@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our<br>
+&gt;&gt; distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved<br>
+&gt;&gt; distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro<br>
+&gt;&gt; (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close<br>
+&gt;&gt; already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from<br>
+&gt;&gt; the kernel.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Here is the FSF guidelines<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Can we commit to these guidelines?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Thanks<br>
+&gt;&gt; Praveen<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes to usability. Let&#39;s look at it from a community stand point and not some hippies agenda. Thanks.<br>
+
+
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Aracele Torres<br><a href="http://cibermundi.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://cibermundi.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>
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+nosXw<br><br>Great!!!<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 nosXw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mail.nosxw@gmail.com">mail.nosxw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Another logo by an <a href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a> user, GualaDrake:<br>
+<a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+<a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+nosXw<br><br>Great!!!<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 nosXw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mail.nosxw@gmail.com">mail.nosxw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Another logo by an <a href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a> user, GualaDrake:<br>
+<a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+<a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br>try arch linux and you will see that it is stable, so if we just do the same with a small nomber of software that will make less work for each new stable version.<br>
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+<br>try arch linux and you will see that it is stable, so if we just do the same with a small nomber of software that will make less work for each new stable version.<br>
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+I like the second most, has more 3d in it, and the lightning bolts are so dynamic.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
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+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+I like the second most, has more 3d in it, and the lightning bolts are so dynamic.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+Yep<br><br>Great idea, <span dir="ltr" id=":2eq">I thought two days ago, </span><span dir="ltr" id=":2eq">but with the nerves I forgot<br><br><br>+++1<br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Harijs Buss <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:harijs@gmail.com">harijs@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi there! :)<br>
+<br>
+It might be good to invite Gal Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to<br>
+Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference<br>
+betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.<br>
+<br>
+Just to remember history, few links:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder" target="_blank">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</a><br>
+Mandriva Linux fires its founder<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</a><br>
+Gal Duval<br>
+<br>
+Harijs (AKA hbush)<br>
+Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Yep<br><br>Great idea, <span dir="ltr" id=":2eq">I thought two days ago, </span><span dir="ltr" id=":2eq">but with the nerves I forgot<br><br><br>+++1<br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Harijs Buss <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:harijs@gmail.com">harijs@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi there! :)<br>
+<br>
+It might be good to invite Gal Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to<br>
+Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference<br>
+betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.<br>
+<br>
+Just to remember history, few links:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder" target="_blank">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</a><br>
+Mandriva Linux fires its founder<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</a><br>
+Gal Duval<br>
+<br>
+Harijs (AKA hbush)<br>
+Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+I had been thinking about some sort of magic circle-based design, like with a penguin footprint or something. If we make the potential occultness as moot as possible, that&#39;d be okay. I can&#39;t think of any other magic symbols already trademarked by a third-party Linux vendor. :X<div>
+<br></div><div>Shawn<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:19 AM, isadora <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:isis2000@gmail.com">isis2000@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Yeah, you should stick a fork into it.;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div>
+</div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com" target="_blank">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div>&gt; Oh, very cool!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com" target="_blank">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.<br>
+But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.<br>
+<div><div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
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+</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+I had been thinking about some sort of magic circle-based design, like with a penguin footprint or something. If we make the potential occultness as moot as possible, that&#39;d be okay. I can&#39;t think of any other magic symbols already trademarked by a third-party Linux vendor. :X<div>
+<br></div><div>Shawn<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:19 AM, isadora <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:isis2000@gmail.com">isis2000@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Yeah, you should stick a fork into it.;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div>
+</div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com" target="_blank">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div>&gt; Oh, very cool!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<a href="mailto:gejobj@gmail.com" target="_blank">gejobj@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.<br>
+But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.<br>
+<div><div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Hello,<br><br>My names is Aracele. I&#39;m brazilian and Mandriva user since 2007. I feel very sad with the news about Mandriva, it&#39;s my favorite distribuition. But, I&#39;m very happy with the criation of the Mageia. <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">A distribution made by the community is the best way not to become hostage of big business.</span></span> <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I&#39;m willing to help with the translation part and more as I can.</span></span> ;)<br>
+
+<br>Cheers.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Spuhler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@btspuhler.com">thomas@btspuhler.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+On Saturday, September 18, 2010 03:48:35 pm Renaud MICHEL wrote:<br>
+&gt; Hello<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that&#39;s almost 10 years ago!)<br>
+&gt; then mandriva.<br>
+&gt; I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope I<br>
+&gt; will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first, and<br>
+&gt; maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I&#39;ve made some packages for my<br>
+&gt; own use).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and<br>
+&gt; installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers<br>
+I will certainly maintain the the packages I already do in Mandriva, more if I<br>
+can<br>
+I hope we&#39;ll stay with SVN as it the integration into the KDE desktop makes it<br>
+easy for users.<br>
+<font color="#888888">--<br>
+Thomas<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Aracele Torres<br><a href="http://cibermundi.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://cibermundi.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>
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+Hello,<br><br>My names is Aracele. I&#39;m brazilian and Mandriva user since 2007. I feel very sad with the news about Mandriva, it&#39;s my favorite distribuition. But, I&#39;m very happy with the criation of the Mageia. <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">A distribution made by the community is the best way not to become hostage of big business.</span></span> <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I&#39;m willing to help with the translation part and more as I can.</span></span> ;)<br>
+
+<br>Cheers.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Spuhler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@btspuhler.com">thomas@btspuhler.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+On Saturday, September 18, 2010 03:48:35 pm Renaud MICHEL wrote:<br>
+&gt; Hello<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ve been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that&#39;s almost 10 years ago!)<br>
+&gt; then mandriva.<br>
+&gt; I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope I<br>
+&gt; will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first, and<br>
+&gt; maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I&#39;ve made some packages for my<br>
+&gt; own use).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and<br>
+&gt; installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers<br>
+I will certainly maintain the the packages I already do in Mandriva, more if I<br>
+can<br>
+I hope we&#39;ll stay with SVN as it the integration into the KDE desktop makes it<br>
+easy for users.<br>
+<font color="#888888">--<br>
+Thomas<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Aracele Torres<br><a href="http://cibermundi.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://cibermundi.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hey,<br>
+ <br>
+ cooker was that rolling release for Mandriva. I'm sure there will
+ be something like that for Mageia too.<br>
+ </font>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="92">--
+Sander
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ 19.09.2010 22:41, HacKurx kirjutas:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTinD1wo7QFKGuCsqEZaRFSaMftE=G89e_EB9d=70@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span
+ style="" title="">First of all excuse me for my English.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">I am one who thinks that rolling release
+ distributions sounds the future. </span><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Why?<br>
+ Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and
+ benefits from recent versions of software.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">Now on libraries, xorg etc.... </span><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">it may
+ very well release a new version for inclusion.<br>
+ </span><span style="" title="">So imagine every six months a new
+ version but in the meantime the software most used to
+ constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+ ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">So I think it would be nice to create a repository
+ "rolling release" containing software </span></span><span
+ id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">commonly used
+ example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0,
+ 0);" title="">As you will not break the system because no
+ library, xorg etc. will be updated.<br>
+ <br>
+ +1 </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="" title="">repository "rolling release" </span></span><span
+ id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">commonly
+ used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...)</span></span>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hey,<br>
+ <br>
+ cooker was that rolling release for Mandriva. I'm sure there will
+ be something like that for Mageia too.<br>
+ </font>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="92">--
+Sander
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ 19.09.2010 22:41, HacKurx kirjutas:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTinD1wo7QFKGuCsqEZaRFSaMftE=G89e_EB9d=70@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span
+ style="" title="">First of all excuse me for my English.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">I am one who thinks that rolling release
+ distributions sounds the future. </span><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Why?<br>
+ Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and
+ benefits from recent versions of software.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">Now on libraries, xorg etc.... </span><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">it may
+ very well release a new version for inclusion.<br>
+ </span><span style="" title="">So imagine every six months a new
+ version but in the meantime the software most used to
+ constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+ ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style=""
+ title="">So I think it would be nice to create a repository
+ "rolling release" containing software </span></span><span
+ id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">commonly used
+ example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.<br>
+ <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0,
+ 0);" title="">As you will not break the system because no
+ library, xorg etc. will be updated.<br>
+ <br>
+ +1 </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="" title="">repository "rolling release" </span></span><span
+ id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">commonly
+ used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...)</span></span>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<h1>You 404d it. Gnarly, dude.</h1>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:350574.46894.qm@web113011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.nl">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+ Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:350574.46894.qm@web113011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.nl">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+ Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi there<br clear="all"><br><div>First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it&#39;s notwe don&#39;t want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...</div>
+<div><br></div><div>btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start with servers and hosting.</div><div><br></div><div>Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)</div><div><br>
+----------<div>Anne</div><br>
+</div>
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+Hi there<br clear="all"><br><div>First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it&#39;s notwe don&#39;t want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...</div>
+<div><br></div><div>btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start with servers and hosting.</div><div><br></div><div>Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)</div><div><br>
+----------<div>Anne</div><br>
+</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!<br>
+<br></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This will be solved indeed. For now many thanks to plf team who is managing hosting for mageia</div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">At the future, once solved the issue about edu,<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a> or <a href="http://mageia.org/edu" target="_blank">mageia.org/edu</a>, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place, with domains just pointing to your right page.<br>
+<br>Suggestions and examples:<br><br>If <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> be addopted, we can create something like <a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt-br" target="_blank">www.mageia.org/pt-br</a> for Brazil Portuguese website version and <a href="http://edu.mageia.org/pt-br" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org/pt-br</a> would be the <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> portuguese version of that page. Thus, <a href="http://www.mageia.com.br" target="_blank">www.mageia.com.br</a> would points to mageia,org/edu.<br>
+<br>If we <span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="">would convince</span></span> all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole thing would be more organized and economical, because
+ they wouldn&#39;t pay for a host.<br><br>I guess what Mandriva website is tis way. <br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com" target="_blank">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br>
+<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com" target="_blank">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page<br>
+Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17<div><div></div><div class="h5">
+<br><br><div>
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled &quot;Welcome to <a href="http://zarb.org" target="_blank">zarb.org</a>&quot;. This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.nl" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the <a href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">mageia.nl</a> owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official <a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a> site.
+ Some of these lead to the <a href="http://zarb.org" target="_blank">zarb.org</a> site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+
+</div><br></div></div>-----Anexo incorporado-----<div class="im"><br><br><div>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a href="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!<br>
+<br></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This will be solved indeed. For now many thanks to plf team who is managing hosting for mageia</div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">At the future, once solved the issue about edu,<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a> or <a href="http://mageia.org/edu" target="_blank">mageia.org/edu</a>, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place, with domains just pointing to your right page.<br>
+<br>Suggestions and examples:<br><br>If <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> be addopted, we can create something like <a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt-br" target="_blank">www.mageia.org/pt-br</a> for Brazil Portuguese website version and <a href="http://edu.mageia.org/pt-br" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org/pt-br</a> would be the <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> portuguese version of that page. Thus, <a href="http://www.mageia.com.br" target="_blank">www.mageia.com.br</a> would points to mageia,org/edu.<br>
+<br>If we <span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="">would convince</span></span> all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole thing would be more organized and economical, because
+ they wouldn&#39;t pay for a host.<br><br>I guess what Mandriva website is tis way. <br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com" target="_blank">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br>
+<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com" target="_blank">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page<br>
+Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17<div><div></div><div class="h5">
+<br><br><div>
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top">When you go to
+ <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a>, you go to the project website, but
+ when you type <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/</a> you go to a page
+ entitled &quot;Welcome to <a href="http://zarb.org" target="_blank">zarb.org</a>&quot;. This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ You also get strange results if you type in <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.nl</a>,
+ <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://mageia.nl</a>; <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mageia.nl" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.nl</a> and finally <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">http://mageia.nl</a>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the <a href="http://mageia.nl" target="_blank">mageia.nl</a> owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official <a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a> site.
+ Some of these lead to the <a href="http://zarb.org" target="_blank">zarb.org</a> site.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+
+</div><br></div></div>-----Anexo incorporado-----<div class="im"><br><br><div>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a href="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com">jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com">jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="h5"><br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on<br>
+Mageia?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s not fixed for now. We have to speak about this. But it can be an option.</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<br>
+ Daniel<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="h5"><br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on<br>
+Mageia?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s not fixed for now. We have to speak about this. But it can be an option.</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<br>
+ Daniel<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">We will not break the system by updating VLC ^ ^<br>Then the updates are not feeling Immediately. passing-through a phase of testing.</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title=""></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" title=""></span></span>
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+<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">We will not break the system by updating VLC ^ ^<br>Then the updates are not feeling Immediately. passing-through a phase of testing.</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title=""></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" title=""></span></span>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just
+ reconnecting to numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in
+ my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+ fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such
+ a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org website, but I am
+ not sure it will be available soon to us, our project still has no
+ structure. So I think we need to do just like Anne has done for
+ the wallpaper contests : open a flickr account to help
+ centralizing all the logo submissions and allow comments for each
+ of them to make them better and finally decide in a more
+ convenient place. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but
+ I am not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really
+ helpfull to open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all
+ the suggested logos, and to place a link both in the mailing
+ lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers, <br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just
+ reconnecting to numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in
+ my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+ fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such
+ a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org website, but I am
+ not sure it will be available soon to us, our project still has no
+ structure. So I think we need to do just like Anne has done for
+ the wallpaper contests : open a flickr account to help
+ centralizing all the logo submissions and allow comments for each
+ of them to make them better and finally decide in a more
+ convenient place. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but
+ I am not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really
+ helpfull to open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all
+ the suggested logos, and to place a link both in the mailing
+ lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers, <br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">OMG!! It's a great mockup! :O</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><br /></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Thanks Nuno ;)<br /><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Nuno Pinheiro</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 18:56</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">wanted to present my idea, somthing fastly made today http://i0.simplest-image- hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png well the idea is very simple and revolves around the fonts, and its outline so for exmaple in a educational stand point would be somthing like the colorfull version on the banner on a buisness like presentation a gray solid color on a desktop version plain blue etc etc... please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">OMG!! It's a great mockup! :O</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><br /></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Thanks Nuno ;)<br /><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Nuno Pinheiro</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 18:56</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">wanted to present my idea, somthing fastly made today http://i0.simplest-image- hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png well the idea is very simple and revolves around the fonts, and its outline so for exmaple in a educational stand point would be somthing like the colorfull version on the banner on a buisness like presentation a gray solid color on a desktop version plain blue etc etc... please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">People,<br><br>Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.<br><br>Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all source code should be available.<br><br>But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to install your kernel linux-libre .<br><br>Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux
+ kernel maintained by the FSF Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few distros that offer it.<br><br>I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media, where the user can install a system with it by typing something like "install = libre" or something similar at boot time of this media. Of course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.<br><br>For more information, see: http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">People,<br><br>Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.<br><br>Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all source code should be available.<br><br>But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to install your kernel linux-libre .<br><br>Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux
+ kernel maintained by the FSF Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few distros that offer it.<br><br>I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media, where the user can install a system with it by typing something like "install = libre" or something similar at boot time of this media. Of course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.<br><br>For more information, see: http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
+ &nbsp; \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a écrit :
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikN7nf+g32nEYxu0L1YmcJ2J_-E8+OFd1_TzSnm@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span
+ dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Le 19/09/2010 23:40,
+ André Machado a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <div class="im">I suggest what 1st Mageia version
+ be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When
+ Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake
+ to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+ Conectiva users tried to create a fork called
+ Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this
+ codename was adopted and would recognize the
+ Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system
+ and, now, from Mageia operating system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even
+ for people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante
+ will not mean anything for people from outside, that's why a
+ much more powerful name would be better to have a great
+ meaning (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that'll
+ be to determine in the future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the
+ pre-releases of the first stable release for Mageia could be
+ really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <div>My two cents:</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>We could use "Lazarus", giving a response to all people ou'
+ there was speaking the "death" of Mandriva and it's community.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Cheers</div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of
+ the Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a
+ partner in the growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention
+ that Brazil does have a population of 200 million people. <br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a écrit :
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikN7nf+g32nEYxu0L1YmcJ2J_-E8+OFd1_TzSnm@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span
+ dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Le 19/09/2010 23:40,
+ André Machado a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <div class="im">I suggest what 1st Mageia version
+ be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When
+ Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake
+ to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+ Conectiva users tried to create a fork called
+ Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this
+ codename was adopted and would recognize the
+ Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system
+ and, now, from Mageia operating system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even
+ for people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante
+ will not mean anything for people from outside, that's why a
+ much more powerful name would be better to have a great
+ meaning (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that'll
+ be to determine in the future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the
+ pre-releases of the first stable release for Mageia could be
+ really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <div>My two cents:</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>We could use "Lazarus", giving a response to all people ou'
+ there was speaking the "death" of Mandriva and it's community.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Cheers</div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of
+ the Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a
+ partner in the growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention
+ that Brazil does have a population of 200 million people. <br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+I like the concept very much!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br></div><div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an inspiration</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+
+<div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><font color="#888888"><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+I like the concept very much!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br></div><div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an inspiration</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+
+<div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><font color="#888888"><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="h5"><br>
+<br>
+</div></div>With so much interest in a new project, I&#39;m sure there will be<br>
+plenty of people willing to donate some start-up money, but can you<br>
+also please set up a system for monthly donations? It&#39;s difficult<br>
+for any organisation to plan ongoing activities without having some<br>
+idea of ongoing funding.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s a good idea indeed. We will dig in it.</div><div>Cheers</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Margot<br>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
+**Otford Ducks Computers**<br>
+We teach, you learn...<br>
+...and, if you don&#39;t do your homework, we set the cat on you!<br>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="h5"><br>
+<br>
+</div></div>With so much interest in a new project, I&#39;m sure there will be<br>
+plenty of people willing to donate some start-up money, but can you<br>
+also please set up a system for monthly donations? It&#39;s difficult<br>
+for any organisation to plan ongoing activities without having some<br>
+idea of ongoing funding.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s a good idea indeed. We will dig in it.</div><div>Cheers</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Margot<br>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
+**Otford Ducks Computers**<br>
+We teach, you learn...<br>
+...and, if you don&#39;t do your homework, we set the cat on you!<br>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Rolling releases are fine to users, but many sys admins wouldn't use it on a server, by example.<br><br>If,on the one hand, a rolling-release distro would be more economical and easy to mantain for development team, think that neither all user have high speed connections to download the whole system updated at installation time or update packages day to day.<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Maarten Vanraes <i>&lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Maarten Vanraes &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia<br>Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 17:37<br><br><div class="plainMail">Op zondag 19 september 2010 21:50:07 schreef Samuel Verschelde:<br>&gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre
+ 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a crit :<br>&gt; &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.<br>&gt; &gt; Why?<br>&gt; &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits<br>&gt; &gt; from recent versions of software.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for<br>&gt; &gt; inclusion.<br>&gt; &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the<br>&gt; &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is<br>&gt; &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository "rolling release"<br>&gt; &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,<br>&gt; &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; As you will not break the
+ system because no library, xorg etc. will be<br>&gt; &gt; updated.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; +1 repository "rolling release" commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer<br>&gt; &gt; etc ...)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will,<br>&gt; like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise<br>&gt; use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and<br>&gt; thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Samuel<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br><br>+1<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Rolling releases are fine to users, but many sys admins wouldn't use it on a server, by example.<br><br>If,on the one hand, a rolling-release distro would be more economical and easy to mantain for development team, think that neither all user have high speed connections to download the whole system updated at installation time or update packages day to day.<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Maarten Vanraes <i>&lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Maarten Vanraes &lt;maarten.vanraes@gmail.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia<br>Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 17:37<br><br><div class="plainMail">Op zondag 19 september 2010 21:50:07 schreef Samuel Verschelde:<br>&gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre
+ 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a crit :<br>&gt; &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.<br>&gt; &gt; Why?<br>&gt; &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits<br>&gt; &gt; from recent versions of software.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for<br>&gt; &gt; inclusion.<br>&gt; &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the<br>&gt; &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is<br>&gt; &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository "rolling release"<br>&gt; &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,<br>&gt; &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; As you will not break the
+ system because no library, xorg etc. will be<br>&gt; &gt; updated.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; +1 repository "rolling release" commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer<br>&gt; &gt; etc ...)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will,<br>&gt; like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise<br>&gt; use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and<br>&gt; thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Samuel<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br><br>+1<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div class="im">
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+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Salan
+
+I guess that <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+
+ </div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let&#39;s make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br></blockquote><div><br><a href="http://xxx.mageia.org">xxx.mageia.org</a> seems better, see:<br><br><a href="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</a><br><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</a><br><a href="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
+<a href="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</a><br><br><a href="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</a><br><a href="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</a><br>
+</div></div><br>...<br><br>Stef<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div class="im">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Salan
+
+I guess that <a href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+
+ </div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let&#39;s make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br></blockquote><div><br><a href="http://xxx.mageia.org">xxx.mageia.org</a> seems better, see:<br><br><a href="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</a><br><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</a><br><a href="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
+<a href="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</a><br><br><a href="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</a><br><a href="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</a><br>
+</div></div><br>...<br><br>Stef<br>
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+Very cool!!!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+Very cool!!!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Oliver<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+<html>
+ <head>
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+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Gonzalo Igartua a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTinNrcP-+Wf_tb5kY5+SsvAR3q3sm_ustod+rsJW@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">nosXw<br>
+ <br>
+ Great!!!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 nosXw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail.nosxw@gmail.com">mail.nosxw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ Another logo by an <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a>
+ user, GualaDrake:<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png"
+ target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg"
+ target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I like too. Very nice<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Gonzalo Igartua a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTinNrcP-+Wf_tb5kY5+SsvAR3q3sm_ustod+rsJW@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">nosXw<br>
+ <br>
+ Great!!!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 nosXw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail.nosxw@gmail.com">mail.nosxw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ Another logo by an <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a>
+ user, GualaDrake:<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png"
+ target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg"
+ target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I like too. Very nice<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class="im"><div></div><blockquote type="cite">
+<div>Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div>+1 <br></div></blockquote><div><br>Bersuit <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+<div><br><div><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div>+1 <br></div></blockquote><div><br>Bersuit <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+<div><br><div><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?<br></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?<br></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
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+I would make a logo basically between a monitor and an orb (meaning the &#39;magic&#39; of the distro and technology at the same time - the technology magic) ...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Farfouille <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:farfouille64@free.fr">farfouille64@free.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Love it !<br>
+<br>
+May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I&#39;m not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of  future Mageia gnome desktop ;)<br>
+Can&#39;t try myself, I can&#39;t draw.<br>
+<br>
+Thanks<br>
+<br>
+Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a écrit :<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+<a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+<br>
+Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+<br>
+I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Thanks.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+I would make a logo basically between a monitor and an orb (meaning the &#39;magic&#39; of the distro and technology at the same time - the technology magic) ...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Farfouille <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:farfouille64@free.fr">farfouille64@free.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Love it !<br>
+<br>
+May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I&#39;m not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of  future Mageia gnome desktop ;)<br>
+Can&#39;t try myself, I can&#39;t draw.<br>
+<br>
+Thanks<br>
+<br>
+Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a écrit :<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+I made a logo for Mageia:<br>
+<a href="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia" target="_blank">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</a><br>
+<br>
+Is there any contest or something else?<br>
+<br>
+I accept any constructive comments ;-)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Thanks.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:656676.95150.qm@web113010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:656676.95150.qm@web113010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
+
+<head>
+<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
+<style>
+<!--
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+ {font-family:"Cambria Math";
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+ {mso-style-type:export-only;}
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+ </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
+</head>
+
+<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
+
+<div class=Section1>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>I have some resources (albeit limited) that I&#8217;m
+willing to offer to get this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a
+datacenter. I can offer free hosting and space so you can deploy servers you
+may need for this project. They are not monster machines but I think they can
+be useful. <o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>I can also offer to write how-to&#8217;s and guides in
+English and maybe Greek (got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and
+advice on strategy and management and implementation of various projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>Dino Edwards (deeztek)<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>+00-1-443-203-9415<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+</div>
+
+</body>
+
+</html>
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+<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
+
+<head>
+<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
+<style>
+<!--
+ /* Font Definitions */
+ @font-face
+ {font-family:"Cambria Math";
+ panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
+@font-face
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+ panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
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+ text-decoration:underline;}
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+ color:windowtext;}
+.MsoChpDefault
+ {mso-style-type:export-only;}
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+ {size:8.5in 11.0in;
+ margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
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+ {page:Section1;}
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+</style>
+<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
+ <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
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+ <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
+ </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
+</head>
+
+<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
+
+<div class=Section1>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>I have some resources (albeit limited) that I&#8217;m
+willing to offer to get this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a
+datacenter. I can offer free hosting and space so you can deploy servers you
+may need for this project. They are not monster machines but I think they can
+be useful. <o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>I can also offer to write how-to&#8217;s and guides in
+English and maybe Greek (got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and
+advice on strategy and management and implementation of various projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>Dino Edwards (deeztek)<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal>+00-1-443-203-9415<o:p></o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
+
+</div>
+
+</body>
+
+</html>
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+Got a 404!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Nuno Pinheiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nuno@oxygen-icons.org">nuno@oxygen-icons.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example<br>
+usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a<br>
+container of anything<br>
+<a href="http://i0.simplest-image-" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-</a><br>
+<a href="http://hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png" target="_blank">hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+please cc me :)<br>
+--<br>
+oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+Got a 404!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Nuno Pinheiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nuno@oxygen-icons.org">nuno@oxygen-icons.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example<br>
+usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a<br>
+container of anything<br>
+<a href="http://i0.simplest-image-" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-</a><br>
+<a href="http://hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png" target="_blank">hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+please cc me :)<br>
+--<br>
+oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100919/9603a541/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100919/9603a541/attachment-0001.html
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">As I am also following this fork, I
+ would also like to offer my help. <br>
+ <br>
+ I have quite a lot of experience on MediaWiki (for having worked a
+ lot on the Mandriva wiki). Perhaps I will be able to work there.
+ But I would like ot help anywhere I can be useful. <br>
+ <br>
+ If possible, please also add me to the list : <br>
+ <br>
+ </font>
+ <ul>
+ <li>Thomas Lottmann (Skiper) - French Users community</li>
+ </ul>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">As I am also following this fork, I
+ would also like to offer my help. <br>
+ <br>
+ I have quite a lot of experience on MediaWiki (for having worked a
+ lot on the Mandriva wiki). Perhaps I will be able to work there.
+ But I would like ot help anywhere I can be useful. <br>
+ <br>
+ If possible, please also add me to the list : <br>
+ <br>
+ </font>
+ <ul>
+ <li>Thomas Lottmann (Skiper) - French Users community</li>
+ </ul>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Salan<br><br>I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...<br><br></pre></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
+ &nbsp; \ No newline at end of file
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Salan<br><br>I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...<br><br></pre></td></tr></table><br>
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+Hello,<br><br>Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution will be of type rolling release.<br>Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....<br>
+It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing distributions.<br>Kind regards,<br><br>HacKurx<br>
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+Hello,<br><br>Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution will be of type rolling release.<br>Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....<br>
+It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing distributions.<br>Kind regards,<br><br>HacKurx<br>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I use
+ Mandriva for many years. </span><span style="background-color:
+ rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I will be happy to lend my support
+ to the project. <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I can
+ test and report bugs, writing in a wiki, animate a forum,
+ participate in the work of communication. </span><span style=""
+ title="">But all this primarily in French.</span></span><br>
+ <span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">I
+ will be interested to train me to packaging</span></span> if I
+ find a tutor.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I use
+ Mandriva for many years. </span><span style="background-color:
+ rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I will be happy to lend my support
+ to the project. <br>
+ </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span
+ style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">I can
+ test and report bugs, writing in a wiki, animate a forum,
+ participate in the work of communication. </span><span style=""
+ title="">But all this primarily in French.</span></span><br>
+ <span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">I
+ will be interested to train me to packaging</span></span> if I
+ find a tutor.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">It would be good to give this to the user. I agree with her.</span></span><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Em 19 de setembro de 2010 17:50, Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">People,<br><br>Now that the distro is starting, it&#39;s easier to define the course of the project. We have to make sure we&#39;re doing the right thing.<br>
+<br>Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely discussed: support for the Stallman&#39;s group could be very advantageous, but would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all source code should be available.<br>
+<br>But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to install your kernel linux-libre .<br>
+<br>Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux
+ kernel maintained by the FSF Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few distros that offer it.<br><br>I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media, where the user can install a system with it by typing something like &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.<br>
+<br>For more information, see: <a href="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/" target="_blank">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</a></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">It would be good to give this to the user. I agree with her.</span></span><br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Em 19 de setembro de 2010 17:50, Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">People,<br><br>Now that the distro is starting, it&#39;s easier to define the course of the project. We have to make sure we&#39;re doing the right thing.<br>
+<br>Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely discussed: support for the Stallman&#39;s group could be very advantageous, but would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all source code should be available.<br>
+<br>But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to install your kernel linux-libre .<br>
+<br>Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux
+ kernel maintained by the FSF Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few distros that offer it.<br><br>I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media, where the user can install a system with it by typing something like &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.<br>
+<br>For more information, see: <a href="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/" target="_blank">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</a></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I like it too</div></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Hi,<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a><br>
+</div>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn&#39;t just<br>
+some variation of the Mandriva star...</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I like it too</div></div>
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+I could never made by myself a graphic with this quality<br><div>i&#39;m sorry if you thought that but as i said i am not good to make graphics, i only wanted to give an inspiration about the magic crystal as theme.<br></div>
+<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d like to add as text in the graphics this which we see in the irc:</div><div>&quot;...the magic continues !&quot;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><div class="im"><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+
+<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div><div>
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre> </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><div class="im"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+<br>Associação Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piauí - PSL-PI<br><br>“Você deve ser a mudança que deseja ver no mundo.” - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+I could never made by myself a graphic with this quality<br><div>i&#39;m sorry if you thought that but as i said i am not good to make graphics, i only wanted to give an inspiration about the magic crystal as theme.<br></div>
+<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d like to add as text in the graphics this which we see in the irc:</div><div>&quot;...the magic continues !&quot;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!<div>Beautiful concept for website.</div><div><div class="im"><a href="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</a><br>
+
+<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmichel.varvou@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :
+ <blockquote type="cite"><div><div>
+ <div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to
+ give an inspiration</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in
+ stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+ <br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ <div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div><a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre> </blockquote>
+ The first picture is magic !! I like this.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><div class="im"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+<br>Associação Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piauí - PSL-PI<br><br>“Você deve ser a mudança que deseja ver no mundo.” - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Well, I like the font.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Better a minimalist design to fit more modern and professional? A flat and smooth color, for example.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >;)</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Malcer </p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Tux99</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:23</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: Mageia general discussions</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt; &gt; http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png &gt; &gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt; &gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt; &gt; Greetings;) The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Well, I like the font.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Better a minimalist design to fit more modern and professional? A flat and smooth color, for example.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >;)</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Malcer </p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Tux99</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:23</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: Mageia general discussions</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt; &gt; http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png &gt; &gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt; &gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt; &gt; Greetings;) The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+Not my choice, sorry.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Alaa Elian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alaaelian@gmail.com">alaaelian@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo<br>
+<a href="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+Not my choice, sorry.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Alaa Elian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alaaelian@gmail.com">alaaelian@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo<br>
+<a href="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.<br>
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hopefully a paypal button will appear on the mageia site soon :)<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Anne nicolas" &lt;ennael1@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: "mageia-discuss" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53:10 AM<br>Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure<br><br>Hi there<br clear="all">&nbsp;<br><div>First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it's not&nbsp;we don't want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...</div>
+<div><br></div><div>btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start with servers and hosting.</div><div><br></div><div>Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)</div><div><br>
+----------<div>Anne</div><br>
+</div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hopefully a paypal button will appear on the mageia site soon :)<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Anne nicolas" &lt;ennael1@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: "mageia-discuss" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53:10 AM<br>Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure<br><br>Hi there<br clear="all">&nbsp;<br><div>First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it's not&nbsp;we don't want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...</div>
+<div><br></div><div>btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start with servers and hosting.</div><div><br></div><div>Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)</div><div><br>
+----------<div>Anne</div><br>
+</div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">My suggestion is made that a technical study of tools and a decision consensus among those who will be responsible for installation and service maintenance.<br>
+<br></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">For example, the technical report of infrastructure for KDE using git is a very good job done by the team of sysadmins.</span><span title="">It&#39;s technical and exposes why that decision was made.<br>
+<br></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Follow the link for those interested - can to be very useful as an example to be followed.</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>
+</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">It&#39;s a ODT archive:</span></font></div><div><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><a href="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3">http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3</a></span></font></div>
+<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Cheers,</span></font></div>
+<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Okay, here&#39;s some of my comparisons in my opinion:<div><br></div><div>WordPress</div><div>-Good at content</div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div><div>-Rather popular</div>
+
+<div>-Open source</div><div>-Good functionality without addons</div><div>-Easy to use administration interface</div><div>-Some advanced functions depend on theme coding</div><div><br></div><div>Drupal</div><div>-Good at organizing content and communities</div>
+
+<div>-Has no clear intended use.</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Requires a large number of modules to be useful.</div><div>-A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.</div><div><br>
+
+</div><div>TextPattern</div><div>-Very light, yet rather powerful</div><div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div></div><div>-Nice article system</div><div>-Open source</div>
+
+<div>-Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>Joomla</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.</div>
+
+<div><br></div><div>Shawn</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com" target="_blank">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com" target="_blank">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div>
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
+</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">My suggestion is made that a technical study of tools and a decision consensus among those who will be responsible for installation and service maintenance.<br>
+<br></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">For example, the technical report of infrastructure for KDE using git is a very good job done by the team of sysadmins.</span><span title="">It&#39;s technical and exposes why that decision was made.<br>
+<br></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Follow the link for those interested - can to be very useful as an example to be followed.</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>
+</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">It&#39;s a ODT archive:</span></font></div><div><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><a href="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3">http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3</a></span></font></div>
+<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Cheers,</span></font></div>
+<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Okay, here&#39;s some of my comparisons in my opinion:<div><br></div><div>WordPress</div><div>-Good at content</div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div><div>-Rather popular</div>
+
+<div>-Open source</div><div>-Good functionality without addons</div><div>-Easy to use administration interface</div><div>-Some advanced functions depend on theme coding</div><div><br></div><div>Drupal</div><div>-Good at organizing content and communities</div>
+
+<div>-Has no clear intended use.</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Requires a large number of modules to be useful.</div><div>-A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.</div><div><br>
+
+</div><div>TextPattern</div><div>-Very light, yet rather powerful</div><div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div></div><div>-Nice article system</div><div>-Open source</div>
+
+<div>-Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>Joomla</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.</div>
+
+<div><br></div><div>Shawn</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com" target="_blank">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com" target="_blank">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div>
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
+</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+Okay, here&#39;s some of my comparisons in my opinion:<div><br></div><div>WordPress</div><div>-Good at content</div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div><div>-Rather popular</div>
+<div>-Open source</div><div>-Good functionality without addons</div><div>-Easy to use administration interface</div><div>-Some advanced functions depend on theme coding</div><div><br></div><div>Drupal</div><div>-Good at organizing content and communities</div>
+<div>-Has no clear intended use.</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Requires a large number of modules to be useful.</div><div>-A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.</div><div><br>
+</div><div>TextPattern</div><div>-Very light, yet rather powerful</div><div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div></div><div>-Nice article system</div><div>-Open source</div>
+<div>-Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>Joomla</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Shawn</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com" target="_blank">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Okay, here&#39;s some of my comparisons in my opinion:<div><br></div><div>WordPress</div><div>-Good at content</div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div><div>-Rather popular</div>
+<div>-Open source</div><div>-Good functionality without addons</div><div>-Easy to use administration interface</div><div>-Some advanced functions depend on theme coding</div><div><br></div><div>Drupal</div><div>-Good at organizing content and communities</div>
+<div>-Has no clear intended use.</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Requires a large number of modules to be useful.</div><div>-A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.</div><div><br>
+</div><div>TextPattern</div><div>-Very light, yet rather powerful</div><div><div>-Primarilyintended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS too.</div></div><div>-Nice article system</div><div>-Open source</div>
+<div>-Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>Joomla</div><div>-Rather popular</div><div>-Open source</div><div>-Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Shawn</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:filip.saraiva@gmail.com">filip.saraiva@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span title="">Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part.</span><span title="" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Will certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to discuss it forever.</span><span title="">List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks the one that best meets our needs.</span></span><br>
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Lirodon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:superfox436@gmail.com" target="_blank">superfox436@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+
+
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
+<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P. Christeas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:p_christ@hol.gr">p_christ@hol.gr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Sunday 19 September 2010, nosXw wrote:<br>
+&gt; Another logo by an <a href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a> user, GualaDrake:<br>
+&gt; <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+&gt; <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+<br>
+</div>IMHO: scary.. We want sth to be friendly, attractive. Even childish, I would<br>
+say.<br>
+</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>+1<br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P. Christeas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:p_christ@hol.gr">p_christ@hol.gr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Sunday 19 September 2010, nosXw wrote:<br>
+&gt; Another logo by an <a href="http://blogdrake.net" target="_blank">blogdrake.net</a> user, GualaDrake:<br>
+&gt; <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</a><br>
+&gt; <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</a><br>
+<br>
+</div>IMHO: scary.. We want sth to be friendly, attractive. Even childish, I would<br>
+say.<br>
+</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>+1<br></div>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">There is a Free Pascal IDE similar to classic Delphi named Lazarus.<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, vfmBOFH <i>&lt;vfmbofh@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: vfmBOFH &lt;vfmbofh@gmail.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:54<br><br><div id="yiv281285994"><br><br><div class="yiv281285994gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="yiv281285994gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div>
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><div class="yiv281285994im">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br></div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><div>My two cents:</div><div><br></div><div>We could use "Lazarus", giving a response to all people ou' there was speaking the "death" of Mandriva and it's community.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+</div><br>-----Anexo incorporado-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
+
+
+
+ &nbsp; \ No newline at end of file
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">There is a Free Pascal IDE similar to classic Delphi named Lazarus.<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, vfmBOFH <i>&lt;vfmbofh@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: vfmBOFH &lt;vfmbofh@gmail.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:54<br><br><div id="yiv281285994"><br><br><div class="yiv281285994gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="yiv281285994gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div>
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><div class="yiv281285994im">I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called "Xavante"<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br></div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+ future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><div>My two cents:</div><div><br></div><div>We could use "Lazarus", giving a response to all people ou' there was speaking the "death" of Mandriva and it's community.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+</div><br>-----Anexo incorporado-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>I think it's an excellent idea, it would be a wink and a gift to the community of Brazil, a gift more than deserved, because after the purchase of Conectiva this community was abandoned by Mandriva.</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just
+ reconnecting to numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in
+ my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+ fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such
+ a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a> website, but I am
+ not sure it will be available soon to us, our project still has no
+ structure. So I think we need to do just like Anne has done for
+ the wallpaper contests : open a flickr account to help
+ centralizing all the logo submissions and allow comments for each
+ of them to make them better and finally decide in a more
+ convenient place. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but
+ I am not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really
+ helpfull to open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all
+ the suggested logos, and to place a link both in the mailing
+ lists, IRC and website. <br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo proposals ?</div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font face="Liberation Sans">
+ <br>
+ Cheers, <br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just
+ reconnecting to numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in
+ my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+ fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such
+ a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a> website, but I am
+ not sure it will be available soon to us, our project still has no
+ structure. So I think we need to do just like Anne has done for
+ the wallpaper contests : open a flickr account to help
+ centralizing all the logo submissions and allow comments for each
+ of them to make them better and finally decide in a more
+ convenient place. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but
+ I am not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really
+ helpfull to open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all
+ the suggested logos, and to place a link both in the mailing
+ lists, IRC and website. <br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo proposals ?</div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font face="Liberation Sans">
+ <br>
+ Cheers, <br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+Hi there!<br><br>
+I have been user of Mandriva since 9.1 and before user of SuSe (the
+original German) and RedHat (I began on Linux with 5.0). I&#39;m not tech-savyy so I like Mandriva because of its common people orientation.<br><br>So I&#39;m thinking if it&#39;s good to build an entire distribution from scratch. Would not be better to take one distro such as Fedora and then add what we can call &quot;the common people layer&quot; (DrakTools, Flash, Java, codecs, some software ...)? So the base system build (kernel, modules, patches, libs, dependencies ...) can be avoided and resources could be heading to the added value to the common people, the same added value that made Mandriva a great distro!<br>
+<br>I&#39;m on economics and not on computer science so I can not help with this, but if some kind of advice is needed on financial, perfomance or social responsability reporting I could help :-)<br><br>All the best,<br>Jesús<br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div class="im">&gt;&gt; It might be good to invite Gaël Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to<br>
+&gt;&gt; Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference<br>
+&gt;&gt; betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Just to remember history, few links:<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder" target="_blank">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; Mandriva Linux fires its founder<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; Gaël Duval<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Harijs (AKA hbush)<br>
+&gt;&gt; Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt; Good idea !<br>
+&gt; I had  too but  I did not dare.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Hi there<br>
+<br>
+Just a quick notice as written in first announcement. We (people who<br>
+launched that project) are very careful about what we would like this<br>
+project: for sure it will not be agresssive towards Mandriva, no reason<br>
+for this and it cannot help. We think there are good things in Mandriva<br>
+Linux and some to be changed. Do it better and in a different way<br>
+implying all community :). Everything that happened in Mandriva life is<br>
+past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers !<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Anne<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi there!<br><br>
+I have been user of Mandriva since 9.1 and before user of SuSe (the
+original German) and RedHat (I began on Linux with 5.0). I&#39;m not tech-savyy so I like Mandriva because of its common people orientation.<br><br>So I&#39;m thinking if it&#39;s good to build an entire distribution from scratch. Would not be better to take one distro such as Fedora and then add what we can call &quot;the common people layer&quot; (DrakTools, Flash, Java, codecs, some software ...)? So the base system build (kernel, modules, patches, libs, dependencies ...) can be avoided and resources could be heading to the added value to the common people, the same added value that made Mandriva a great distro!<br>
+<br>I&#39;m on economics and not on computer science so I can not help with this, but if some kind of advice is needed on financial, perfomance or social responsability reporting I could help :-)<br><br>All the best,<br>Jesús<br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div class="im">&gt;&gt; It might be good to invite Gaël Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to<br>
+&gt;&gt; Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference<br>
+&gt;&gt; betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Just to remember history, few links:<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder" target="_blank">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; Mandriva Linux fires its founder<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</a><br>
+&gt;&gt; Gaël Duval<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Harijs (AKA hbush)<br>
+&gt;&gt; Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt; Good idea !<br>
+&gt; I had  too but  I did not dare.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Hi there<br>
+<br>
+Just a quick notice as written in first announcement. We (people who<br>
+launched that project) are very careful about what we would like this<br>
+project: for sure it will not be agresssive towards Mandriva, no reason<br>
+for this and it cannot help. We think there are good things in Mandriva<br>
+Linux and some to be changed. Do it better and in a different way<br>
+implying all community :). Everything that happened in Mandriva life is<br>
+past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers !<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Anne<br>
+</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>The url <a href="http://www.mageia-gr.org">http://www.mageia-gr.org</a> from now points to <a href="http://mandrivalinux.gr">mandrivalinux.gr</a> and will be the internet address of Mageia greek community<br clear="all">
+</div><div><br></div><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<div>The url <a href="http://www.mageia-gr.org">http://www.mageia-gr.org</a> from now points to <a href="http://mandrivalinux.gr">mandrivalinux.gr</a> and will be the internet address of Mageia greek community<br clear="all">
+</div><div><br></div><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:776694.44182.qm@web113001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Sala&uuml;n
+
+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:776694.44182.qm@web113001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Sala&uuml;n
+
+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div>As it is very early in the life of the distro, I&#39;m 100% sure they will be reading suggestions/ideas in both the mailing list and the IRC channel. But they are more likely to be present in the IRC channel from previous experience.</div>
+
+<br clear="all">Sadiq S<br>mailto: <a href="mailto:sadiq.9541@gmail.com" target="_blank">sadiq.9541@gmail.com</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://www.staticsafe.me" target="_blank">www.staticsafe.me</a><br>Twitter - <a href="http://www.twitter.com/staticsafe" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/staticsafe</a><br>
+
+Facebook- <a href="http://www.facebook.com/static.safe" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/static.safe</a><br> <br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?<br>
+
+</td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>As it is very early in the life of the distro, I&#39;m 100% sure they will be reading suggestions/ideas in both the mailing list and the IRC channel. But they are more likely to be present in the IRC channel from previous experience.</div>
+
+<br clear="all">Sadiq S<br>mailto: <a href="mailto:sadiq.9541@gmail.com" target="_blank">sadiq.9541@gmail.com</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://www.staticsafe.me" target="_blank">www.staticsafe.me</a><br>Twitter - <a href="http://www.twitter.com/staticsafe" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/staticsafe</a><br>
+
+Facebook- <a href="http://www.facebook.com/static.safe" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/static.safe</a><br> <br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Andr Machado <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br">andreferreiramachado@yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?<br>
+
+</td></tr></tbody></table><br>
+
+
+
+ <br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br></div><div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an inspiration</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+<div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<div>I imagine something with the magic crystal<br></div><div>Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an inspiration</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</a></div>
+<div><a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu button etc</div>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Whell, then we can use something like:<br><br>www.mageia.org/edu<br>www.mageia.org/kde<br><br>and so on...<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] domain names<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:06<br><br><div id="yiv1533679587">
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Salan
+
+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp;
+ <pre><fieldset class="yiv1533679587mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1533679587moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1533679587moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+
+</div><br>-----Anexo incorporado-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" href="/mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Whell, then we can use something like:<br><br>www.mageia.org/edu<br>www.mageia.org/kde<br><br>and so on...<br><br>--- Em <b>dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par <i>&lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;</i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Marc Par &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt;<br>Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] domain names<br>Para: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:06<br><br><div id="yiv1533679587">
+
+
+
+
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr Machado a crit&nbsp;:
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+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
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+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
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+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">When you go to http://www.mageia.org, you go to the project website, but when you type https://www.mageia.org/ you go to a page entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.<br></td></tr></table><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">When you go to http://www.mageia.org, you go to the project website, but when you type https://www.mageia.org/ you go to a page entitled "Welcome to zarb.org". This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.<br></td></tr></table><br>
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+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
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+Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS&#39;s on the IRC channel, I thought I&#39;d bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?<div>
+<br></div><div>Shawn</div>
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Will urpmi be a part of mageia? <br>If not then perhaps Smart will be considered as the default package handler.<br>While the gui is not flashy it's powerful flexible and offers a few features that isn't available<br>in the MCC implementation.<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Anssi Hannula" &lt;anssi.hannula@iki.fi&gt;<br>To: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:03:41 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools<br><br>On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:<br>&gt; Hi,<br><br>Hi!<br><br>&gt; Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit<br>&gt; that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line<br>&gt; tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep<br>&gt; the GUI tools I will help what little I can.<br><br>Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)<br><br>-- <br>Anssi Hannula<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Will urpmi be a part of mageia? <br>If not then perhaps Smart will be considered as the default package handler.<br>While the gui is not flashy it's powerful flexible and offers a few features that isn't available<br>in the MCC implementation.<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Anssi Hannula" &lt;anssi.hannula@iki.fi&gt;<br>To: "Mageia general discussions" &lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;<br>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:03:41 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools<br><br>On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:<br>&gt; Hi,<br><br>Hi!<br><br>&gt; Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit<br>&gt; that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line<br>&gt; tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep<br>&gt; the GUI tools I will help what little I can.<br><br>Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)<br><br>-- <br>Anssi Hannula<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>Mageia-discuss@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss<br></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think?</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><a href="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</a></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Any ideas without repeating concepts?</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Greetings;)</p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 16:54</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">Love it ! May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I'm not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of future Mageia gnome desktop ;) Can't try myself, I can't draw. Thanks Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a écrit : &gt; I made a logo for Mageia: &gt; http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia &gt; &gt; Is there any contest or something else? &gt; &gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-) &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks. &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css">p { margin:0px; padding:0px; }</style></head><body style='background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-position:0% 0%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:5px;'><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think?</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><a href="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</a></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro.</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Any ideas without repeating concepts?</p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><br /></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" >Greetings;)</p><br /></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><blockquote class="quote" type="cite"><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 16:54</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: mageia-discuss@mageia.org</font></span></p><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ><span style="font-family:Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br /><div><div><pre style="font-size:11px;">Love it ! May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I'm not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of future Mageia gnome desktop ;) Can't try myself, I can't draw. Thanks Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a écrit : &gt; I made a logo for Mageia: &gt; http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia &gt; &gt; Is there any contest or something else? &gt; &gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-) &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks. &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; Mageia-discuss@mageia.org &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list Mageia-discuss@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</pre></div></div></blockquote><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p><br /><br /><div id="editor_signature"><br /><p size="2" style="font-family:Verdana;">Malcer<br /><br />ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br /><br />http://ext4.wordpress.com</p></div></font><p style="margin:0px; padding:0px;" ></p></body></html>
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+A lower case &#39;m&#39; too?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Malcer Quaid <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:malcer@gmx.com">malcer@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-repeat: repeat; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; padding: 5px;"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Hi!</font></span></p>
+<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2"><br></font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.</p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.</p>
+<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Saludos ;)</p><br></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+<span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+<span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47</font></span></p><div class="im"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: <a href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a></font></span></p>
+</div><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br><div><div><pre style="font-size: 11px;">Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of &#39;g&#39; should be longer. But I&#39;m not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a écrit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png" target="_blank">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</a> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a> &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a></pre>
+</div></div></blockquote><div class="im"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p><br><br><div><br><p size="2" style="font-family: Verdana;">Malcer<br><br>ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br><br><a href="http://ext4.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://ext4.wordpress.com</a></p>
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+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
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+A lower case &#39;m&#39; too?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Malcer Quaid <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:malcer@gmx.com">malcer@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-repeat: repeat; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; padding: 5px;"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Hi!</font></span></p>
+<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2"><br></font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.</p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.</p>
+<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Saludos ;)</p><br></font></span></p><font size="2"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+<span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">----- Mensaje original -----</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">De: Farfouille</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
+<span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47</font></span></p><div class="im"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Para: <a href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a></font></span></p>
+</div><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="2">Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</font></span></p><br><div><div><pre style="font-size: 11px;">Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of &#39;g&#39; should be longer. But I&#39;m not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a écrit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png" target="_blank">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</a> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a> &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a></pre>
+</div></div></blockquote><div class="im"><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p><br><br><div><br><p size="2" style="font-family: Verdana;">Malcer<br><br>ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer<br><br><a href="http://ext4.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://ext4.wordpress.com</a></p>
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+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Hello everyone<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Following the recommendation given to me in '#mageia-dev' I offer my support for this project.<br><br></span><span style="" title="">I work as a Linux systems administrator for some time. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Also perhaps I could get some hardware and bandwidth to host services for 'mageia'.<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">If you are interested in my assistance in this area, I am at your disposal.<br><br></span><span style="" title="">Greetings</span></span><br><br><br><p> </p></td></tr></table><br>
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+<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Hello everyone<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Following the recommendation given to me in '#mageia-dev' I offer my support for this project.<br><br></span><span style="" title="">I work as a Linux systems administrator for some time. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Also perhaps I could get some hardware and bandwidth to host services for 'mageia'.<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">If you are interested in my assistance in this area, I am at your disposal.<br><br></span><span style="" title="">Greetings</span></span><br><br><br><p> </p></td></tr></table><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font face="Liberation
+ Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I
+ am just reconnecting to numeric reality, including more
+ than 272 mails in my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there
+ have been fantastic submissions and proposals for our
+ brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform
+ for such a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a>
+ website, but I am not sure it will be available soon to
+ us, our project still has no structure. So I think we need
+ to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+ open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo
+ submissions and allow comments for each of them to make
+ them better and finally decide in a more convenient place.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with
+ flickr, but I am not. So if someone has the time, I think
+ it would be really helpfull to open a dedicated and clear
+ flickr page to submit all the suggested logos, and to
+ place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ </font></div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo
+ proposals ?</div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oups I need to go to sleep ;)</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ </div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font face="Liberation
+ Sans"><br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font> </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ ----------
+ <div>Anne</div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ This is exactly what I suggested. <span><span>
+ :-) </span></span><br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font face="Liberation
+ Sans">Hello everyone!<br>
+ <br>
+ As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+ countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I
+ am just reconnecting to numeric reality, including more
+ than 272 mails in my Box. <br>
+ <br>
+ That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there
+ have been fantastic submissions and proposals for our
+ brand new logo. <br>
+ <br>
+ I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform
+ for such a contest. We need a dedicated website. <br>
+ I think one day we will need a <a href="http://mageia-art.org" target="_blank">mageia-art.org</a>
+ website, but I am not sure it will be available soon to
+ us, our project still has no structure. So I think we need
+ to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+ open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo
+ submissions and allow comments for each of them to make
+ them better and finally decide in a more convenient place.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with
+ flickr, but I am not. So if someone has the time, I think
+ it would be really helpfull to open a dedicated and clear
+ flickr page to submit all the suggested logos, and to
+ place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website. <br>
+ </font></div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo
+ proposals ?</div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oups I need to go to sleep ;)</div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ </div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font face="Liberation
+ Sans"><br>
+ <br>
+ Thomas aka Skiper. <br>
+ </font> </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ ----------
+ <div>Anne</div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ This is exactly what I suggested. <span><span>
+ :-) </span></span><br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>----------<div>Anne</div><br>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Xavante is a good name, representing the tribe, the community.</span></span><div>
+<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title=""></span><span title="">It is very good, and a beautiful tribute to Conectiva.</span></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br>
+</span></font></div><div><span title=""></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">+1<br></span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a crit:
+ <div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Le 19/09/2010 23:40,
+ Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top">
+ <div>I suggest what 1st Mageia version
+ be called &quot;Xavante&quot;<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When
+ Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake
+ to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+ Conectiva users tried to create a fork called
+ Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this
+ codename was adopted and would recognize the
+ Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system
+ and, now, from Mageia operating system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even
+ for people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante
+ will not mean anything for people from outside, that&#39;s why a
+ much more powerful name would be better to have a great
+ meaning (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that&#39;ll
+ be to determine in the future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the
+ pre-releases of the first stable release for Mageia could be
+ really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <div>My two cents:</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou&#39;
+ there was speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it&#39;s community.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Cheers</div>
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br></div></div>
+ I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of
+ the Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a
+ partner in the growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention
+ that Brazil does have a population of 200 million people. <br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Xavante is a good name, representing the tribe, the community.</span></span><div>
+<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><span title=""></span><span title="">It is very good, and a beautiful tribute to Conectiva.</span></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br>
+</span></font></div><div><span title=""></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">+1<br></span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a crit:
+ <div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skiperdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">skiperdrake@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Le 19/09/2010 23:40,
+ Andr Machado a crit:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font:inherit" valign="top">
+ <div>I suggest what 1st Mageia version
+ be called &quot;Xavante&quot;<br>
+ <br>
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When
+ Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake
+ to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+ Conectiva users tried to create a fork called
+ Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this
+ codename was adopted and would recognize the
+ Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system
+ and, now, from Mageia operating system.<br>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even
+ for people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante
+ will not mean anything for people from outside, that&#39;s why a
+ much more powerful name would be better to have a great
+ meaning (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that&#39;ll
+ be to determine in the future). <br>
+ <br>
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the
+ pre-releases of the first stable release for Mageia could be
+ really nice. <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+ <a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <div>My two cents:</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou&#39;
+ there was speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it&#39;s community.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Cheers</div>
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br></div></div>
+ I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of
+ the Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a
+ partner in the growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention
+ that Brazil does have a population of 200 million people. <br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Filipe Saraiva<br>**************************************<br>Meu blog: <a href="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</a><br>
+<br>Associao Piauiense de Software Livre<br>Projeto Software Livre - Piau - PSL-PI<br><br>Voc deve ser a mudana que deseja ver no mundo. - Gandhi<br><br>
+</div>
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+The colors remind me of google..<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Nuno Pinheiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nuno@oxygen-icons.org">nuno@oxygen-icons.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example<br>
+usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a<br>
+container of anything<br>
+<a href="http://i0.simplest-image-" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-</a><br>
+<a href="http://hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png" target="_blank">hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+please cc me :)<br>
+--<br>
+oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+The colors remind me of google..<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Nuno Pinheiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nuno@oxygen-icons.org">nuno@oxygen-icons.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example<br>
+usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a<br>
+container of anything<br>
+<a href="http://i0.simplest-image-" target="_blank">http://i0.simplest-image-</a><br>
+<a href="http://hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png" target="_blank">hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+please cc me :)<br>
+--<br>
+oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Mageia-discuss mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">First of all excuse me for my English.<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Why?<br>
+Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from recent versions of software.<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">Now on libraries, xorg etc.... </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">it may very well release a new version for inclusion.<br>
+</span><span style="" title="">So
+ imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software
+ most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot; containing software </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.<br>
+<br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" title="">As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be updated.<br><br>+1 </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">repository &quot;rolling release&quot; </span></span><span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...)</span></span>
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+<span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">First of all excuse me for my English.<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">Why?<br>
+Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from recent versions of software.<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">Now on libraries, xorg etc.... </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="">it may very well release a new version for inclusion.<br>
+</span><span style="" title="">So
+ imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software
+ most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).<br><br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot; containing software </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.<br>
+<br></span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" title="">As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be updated.<br><br>+1 </span></span><span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">repository &quot;rolling release&quot; </span></span><span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...)</span></span>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:14, St&eacute;phane T&eacute;letch&eacute;a a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTim-Rj8Kxb8R3cPWnF3AKgmgXNXV67ntEaiwte51@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par&eacute; <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Le 2010-09-19 17:00,
+ Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <div class="im">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Sala&uuml;n
+
+I guess that <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; </div>
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as
+ possible with mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People
+ will remember the brand more easily that way. Let's make it
+ easy for people to find the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://xxx.mageia.org">xxx.mageia.org</a>
+ seems better, see:<br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</a><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ ...<br>
+ <br>
+ Stef<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the structure should be as conventional as possible. I am
+ note aware if the is a convention with site naming for
+ organizations. However, I usually favour any structure that makes it
+ absolutely as easy as possible for users to find the main site.
+ Keeping a structure with "mageia" as a prefix would accomplish that
+ and would make it simple for the initiated to the distro to find any
+ associated sites under its umbrella. Keeping it simple will bring in
+ more users.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 2010-09-19 17:14, St&eacute;phane T&eacute;letch&eacute;a a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTim-Rj8Kxb8R3cPWnF3AKgmgXNXV67ntEaiwte51@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/19 Marc Par&eacute; <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Le 2010-09-19 17:00,
+ Andr&eacute; Machado a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <div class="im">
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
+ <pre>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+
+--
+A.Sala&uuml;n
+
+I guess that <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://edu.mageia.org" target="_blank">edu.mageia.org</a> is better...
+
+</pre>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; </div>
+ <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-discuss mailing list
+<div class="im"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Mageia-discuss@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</a>
+</div></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as
+ possible with mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People
+ will remember the brand more easily that way. Let's make it
+ easy for people to find the distro.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://xxx.mageia.org">xxx.mageia.org</a>
+ seems better, see:<br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</a><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ ...<br>
+ <br>
+ Stef<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I guess the structure should be as conventional as possible. I am
+ note aware if the is a convention with site naming for
+ organizations. However, I usually favour any structure that makes it
+ absolutely as easy as possible for users to find the main site.
+ Keeping a structure with "mageia" as a prefix would accomplish that
+ and would make it simple for the initiated to the distro to find any
+ associated sites under its umbrella. Keeping it simple will bring in
+ more users.<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc
+ </body>
+</html>