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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Thu May 10 19:24:19 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 18:51:45 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2012/5/10 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 18:16:11 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/5/10 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 13:08:33 schreef Pierre Jarillon:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 3- After the installation, it should be great to have a screen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; saying: - you may select the sources of software and for example,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; unselect the CD/DVD, add the non-free, the tainted and their updates
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; which are necessary to allow flash and mp4.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; I think it might be nice for a screen there (before updates) to select
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; cdrom (by default off), network sources (by default on) and maybe a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; few subcheckboxes below (nonfree, tainted, backports) which could be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; unselected by default. Possibly an advanced window here to have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; manual selection of mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Not possible for people who do not have network up during installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (lots of wifi users).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; imho the network shouldn't need to be up to select this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this is what you'd get:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [ ] DVD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [X] Network
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [X] Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [ ] Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [ ] Nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [ ] Tainted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Network must be up to download the hdlists. Otherwise you need to
+</I>&gt;<i> change the whole system, like after reboot after installation check
+</I>&gt;<i> continuously for network ceonnection (until success) and then download
+</I>&gt;<i> the hdlists.
+</I>&gt;<i> You also need a network connection to select a dedicated mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there could even be a detection that if network is down, DVD would also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be selected.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i see no reason why we should not enable network sources if there's no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; network, shouldn't it fallback to the DVD then?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This makes no sense because the needed packages of tainted and
+</I>&gt;<i> non-free are not on the DVD anyway. And as soon as the user reboots he
+</I>&gt;<i> has to unmark the DVD anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, everything is possible, but the question is whether it
+</I>&gt;<i> makes sense to do such major &quot;refactoring&quot;. The setting up of sources
+</I>&gt;<i> is almost automatical once you rebooted your system. A popup of the
+</I>&gt;<i> update icon will tell you that there is no sources configured yet. If
+</I>&gt;<i> you answer with &quot;Yes&quot; to the related question, the setup will be done
+</I>&gt;<i> with mirrorlist. See: newbie-friendly. All you have to do then is to
+</I>&gt;<i> activate the non-free and tainted repos, which is (as already written)
+</I>&gt;<i> an &quot;opt-in&quot; task and can't be done by default.
+</I>
+
+you have a point, i forgot that we have the popup no sources configured.
+
+imho maybe we can change this popup to have extra opt-in checkboxes for
+nonfree and tainted
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