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+ <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Thursday, April 12, 2012 07:24:49 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:51:25 -0500
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-d
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; evel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Which doesn't look right to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Antoine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How about the output of:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ urpmq --list-media
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --list-media
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia - 1 - x86_64 DVD
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Release Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Backports Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Backports Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Backports Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Release Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Updates Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Updates Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Updates Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Backports Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Backports Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Backports Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Release Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Updates Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Updates Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Updates Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Backports Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Backports Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Backports Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Release Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Updates Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Updates Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Updates Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Backports Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Backports Testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Backports Testing Debug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>
+Ok, 32-bit packages are there.
+
+You can look for the more detailed name like this:
+
+$ urpmq --media &quot;Core 32bit Updates&quot;,&quot;Core 32bit Backports&quot; \
+ --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+
+Then try urpmi using the resulting longer name. I assume the update is in one
+of those media, but you could list whatever Core 32bit media names you wanted
+to after the --media argument.
+
+There is a crude method that one can try based on your prior post. I probably
+shouldn't show it, but what the heck...
+
+&gt;<i> That said, here is what &quot;urpmi --auto-update&quot; says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from
+</I>&gt;<i> install of lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 conflicts with
+</I>&gt;<i> file from package libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+</I>
+So, now since maybe one doesn't know much about those names, so using a
+breaking rocks type method, we chip away the cruft until something works.
+Start from the top down until you do not get a message that starts with:
+
+ No package named libopenssl...
+
+$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586
+$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1
+$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3
+$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2
+$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d
+
+And so on...
+
+That's kind of a brain-dead way to approach it, but it works sometimes if you
+don't really know how the numbers in the package name correlate to names that
+urpmi understands. I tried something similar on a package on my system, and
+eventually I got to a name that worked that was more than libopenssl-devel.
+
+Once you find the suitable long name and try to install it, does it install?
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/4/12 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:14:25PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You are right with the criterium &quot;an application I use&quot;. But here we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are talking about handbooks of every single little KDE app being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forced upon the user, whether he wants/needs it or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggest to refrain from saying that you're forced. I don't see how
+</I>&gt;<i> you're being forced what I think is the common understanding of it
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/force">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/force</A>). Nobody is forcing you to install
+</I>&gt;<i> this (not having an option != forcing) and you have the freedom to
+</I>&gt;<i> either change (e.g. rm -rf). Saying you're being forced when clearly
+</I>&gt;<i> this is not forcing is IMO incorrect.
+</I>
+Well, discussing semantics is always nice.
+Of course I am not forced like I am not forced to install Linux or to
+have a computer at all. But if I want a KDE application I have to
+install the handbook. No matter how you call that.
+
+--
+wobo
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:43:58 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:37:56 -0500
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, April 12, 2012 04:51:05 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Antoine Pitrou &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">solipsis at pitrou.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; fichier du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Now I can't reinstall it:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Damn.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Antoine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What happens when you run:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are two different names displayed? If so, can you install by using the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more detailed name?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which doesn't look right to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>
+I should have had you do:
+
+$ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+
+Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch.
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+ To sum, again, Linux is not merely a
+&gt;<i> matter of an individual's choice.
+</I>&gt;<i> Rolf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>OK, you win. I wouldn't want to destroy all of Linux just because I
+might want a bit of convenience.
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+&gt;<i> On 04/12/2012 10:05 AM, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, you win. I wouldn't want to destroy all of Linux just because I might
+</I>&gt;<i> want a bit of convenience.
+</I>
+What I&quot;m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide just
+the convenience you need:
+
+# sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+
+# sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+ /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+
+# service dm restart
+
+I'm not an official representative of Mageia so if this information leads
+to the end of humanity, mageia.org cannot be held responsible. :o)
+
+BTW: I've done some silly things by mis-typing in a terminal as root
+or forgetting that I *am* root in an xterm window on my regular user's
+desktop. When logged into a bright red IceWM session, I tend to be
+more careful. Once a new system is set up, I rarely use it though.
+
+Have fun - RJ
+
+&quot;Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
+as that would also stop them from doing clever things.&quot; - Doug Gwyn
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+&gt;<i> if I want a KDE application I have to
+</I>&gt;<i> install the handbook.
+</I>
+Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications
+without their documentation.
+
+I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some
+KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help
+for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking
+at its handbook.
+
+I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in
+&quot;suggested&quot; packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing
+F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and,
+if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the
+purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available.
+
+Liam
+
+[oops, why does evolution sometimes reply to lists with my default account??]
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+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+<PRE>fredagen den 13 april 2012 07.01.56 skrev Liam R E Quin:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if I want a KDE application I have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install the handbook.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications
+</I>&gt;<i> without their documentation.
+</I>
+Some cases I also want all tutorials from internet on the subject, watch
+instructive videos...
+
+&gt;<i> I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help
+</I>&gt;<i> for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking
+</I>&gt;<i> at its handbook.
+</I>
+Yes, but when i know a program....
+
+&gt;<i> I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;suggested&quot; packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing
+</I>&gt;<i> F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and,
+</I>&gt;<i> if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available.
+</I>
+If i am on a slow network somewhere and want a program, i do not want to waste
+time, diskspace nor money in installing something i do not need.
+
+Some minimal doc could be excused, but it should not automatically start
+nertwork use when i ask for help. It could ask, or just say &quot;more
+documentation is available in package nn )
+
+Now the question maybe is the kde doc are so small it do not matter much, and
+i could gain more at just installing programs i need...
+
+&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [oops, why does evolution sometimes reply to lists with my default
+</I>&gt;<i> account??]
+</I>
+Check the doc ;)
+
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+&quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I should have had you do:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch.
+</I>
+Ok:
+
+$ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+libopenssl-devel
+libopenssl-devel
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+&quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can look for the more detailed name like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --media &quot;Core 32bit Updates&quot;,&quot;Core 32bit Backports&quot; \
+</I>&gt;<i> --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>
+Ok:
+
+$ urpmq --media &quot;Core 32bit Updates&quot;,&quot;Core 32bit Backports&quot; \
+ --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+libopenssl-devel|libopenssl-devel|libopenssl-devel
+
+
+... which doesn't help unfortunately :-)
+
+But:
+
+&gt;<i> $ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586
+</I>
+worked fine. At least until the next upgrade, I suppose.
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+&gt;<i> What I&quot;m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide just
+</I>&gt;<i> the convenience you need:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # service dm restart
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that
+keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ?
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/4/13 Liam R E Quin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">liam at holoweb.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if I want a KDE application I have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install the handbook.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications
+</I>&gt;<i> without their documentation.
+</I>
+Well, that's your opinion and you may be looking forward to your next
+visit in the tool shop when you buy some nails and ask for a
+documentation.
+
+My opinion is to spare the user unwanted installation if he is *sure
+that he does not need a doc for a specified application*. That's where
+your use case &quot;on the plane&quot; is not valid. If you do not install doc
+for an application you are not sure about, then it is your own fault.
+
+OTOH this discussion is void anyway since the person in charge already
+decided the case.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B>
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+<PRE>On Friday, April 13, 2012 04:26:08 am Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:15:51 -0500
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I should have had you do:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i> libopenssl-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>
+Wow. This is a Mageia difference from Mandriva that I am not fond of.
+
+So now I wonder if this gets the long name that worked. Maybe:
+
+$ urpmq -a -f --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+
+The above seemed to work on Mandriva.
+
+Or, gasp:
+
+$ urpmq -a -r --whatprovides libopenssl-devel \
+|<i> awk -v FS=&quot;[ \t]*[:][ \t]*&quot; \
+</I>'$1 ~ /^Name/ { printf(&quot;%s&quot;, $2) } \
+ $1 ~ /^Release/ { printf(&quot;-%s&quot;, $2) } \
+ $1 ~ /^Size/ { printf(&quot;-%s\n&quot;, $3) }' -
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+:<i>-)
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+&gt;<i> On 04/12/2012 11:36 PM, R James wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I&quot;m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the convenience you need:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # service dm restart
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that
+</I>&gt;<i> keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Exactly. And where I get annoyed in this whole conversation is not that
+I want to log in as root - I haven't even tried to do that in years. But
+the option has been there, should I feel I need it and am prepared to
+accept the consequences of my actions. This latest move has removed that
+option - according to the OP - and THAT'S what annoys me.
+
+Mr. Pedersen maintains that I probably don't know what all of those
+possible consequences are, and that I could easily not be the only one
+affected by them. And even if I do know all of them, there are plenty of
+irresponsibles who don't, and we have to protect ourselves from those
+types. And he has a point.
+
+There are plenty of examples in other areas. While I may mistakenly
+believe I have the skills to use a mobile communications device while
+driving and may even be able to get away with it if I do it sparingly,
+99.999% don't have those skills (or luck), so it is illegal in most
+areas to protect the rest of us. And there are several cases where
+carriers of a disease unwittingly spread that disease without it
+affecting them, and these days when one is found he or she is removed
+from society before more damage can be done.
+
+So I understand what he's saying. But it still annoys me when one of my
+options is taken away by the heavy hand of the powerful. It's possible
+for the powerful to abuse that power, go too far with it, and take away
+too much.
+
+TJ
+
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Am 13.04.2012 15:22, schrieb TJ:
+&gt;<i> On 04/13/2012 06:26 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 04/12/2012 11:36 PM, R James wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I&quot;m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the convenience you need:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # service dm restart
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Exactly. And where I get annoyed in this whole conversation is not that
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to log in as root - I haven't even tried to do that in years. But
+</I>&gt;<i> the option has been there, should I feel I need it and am prepared to
+</I>&gt;<i> accept the consequences of my actions. This latest move has removed that
+</I>&gt;<i> option - according to the OP - and THAT'S what annoys me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And as I did say in this thread. I don't see any action by our KDE team
+to this effect. Ok, I only scanned over the patches, but I read the
+changelog and I saw no sign of anyone patching KDM to ignore it.
+So be annoyed with KDE upstream for this change, not with our KDE
+maintainers.
+
+Of course if someone does find a patch on our side, that does it, feel
+free to correct me.
+
+Oliver
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+ <B>Antoine Pitrou</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:10:42 -0500
+&quot;Kevin R. Bulgrien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow. This is a Mageia difference from Mandriva that I am not fond of.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So now I wonder if this gets the long name that worked. Maybe:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq -a -f --whatprovides libopenssl-devel
+</I>
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.mga1.i586
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.1.mga1.i586
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586
+libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586
+
+Bingo :-)
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
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+<PRE>On 04/13/2012 09:33 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> And as I did say in this thread. I don't see any action by our KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> team to this effect. Ok, I only scanned over the patches, but I read
+</I>&gt;<i> the changelog and I saw no sign of anyone patching KDM to ignore it.
+</I>&gt;<i> So be annoyed with KDE upstream for this change, not with our KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course if someone does find a patch on our side, that does it, feel
+</I>&gt;<i> free to correct me.
+</I>
+OK, just to be definitive, I activated KDM, set AllowRootLogin to true,
+and tried and failed to login as root. However, KDM may not be the
+culprit. From /var/log/auth.log:
+
+Here's me logging on as root from a tty to do &quot;service dm restart&quot; (I
+was previously using GDM):
+
+Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: pam_tcb(login:auth): Authentication
+passed for root from LOGIN(uid=0)
+Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: pam_tcb(login:session): Session opened
+for root by root(uid=0)
+Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: ROOT LOGIN ON tty3
+Apr 13 10:13:23 localhost polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered
+Authentication Agent for
+unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session3 (system bus name
+:<i>1.320, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent,
+</I>locale en_US.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus)
+
+Now here's two attempts at graphical login as root, followed by a
+successful one as ftg:
+
+Apr 13 10:13:38 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth):
+requirement &quot;user ingroup nopasswdlogin&quot; not met by user &quot;root&quot;
+Apr 13 10:13:38 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth):
+Authentication passed for root from (uid=0)
+Apr 13 10:13:47 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth):
+requirement &quot;user ingroup nopasswdlogin&quot; not met by user &quot;root&quot;
+Apr 13 10:13:47 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth):
+Authentication passed for root from (uid=0)
+Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth):
+requirement &quot;user ingroup nopasswdlogin&quot; not met by user &quot;ftg&quot;
+Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth):
+Authentication passed for ftg from (uid=0)
+Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:session): Session
+opened for ftg by ftg(uid=0)
+
+Note that in the tty login for root and the graphical login for ftg,
+there are pam_tcb(kdm:session) entries, while there are none for the
+failed graphical root logins.
+
+It's still possible that this is being done by KDM, but googling turns
+up nothing about AllowRootLogin being dropped by upstream. On the
+contrary, &quot;true&quot; is the default on OpenSUSE and you can find here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;docType=kc&amp;externalId=7007124&amp;sliceId=1&amp;docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1">http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;docType=kc&amp;externalId=7007124&amp;sliceId=1&amp;docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1</A>
+
+an open bug in the Novell bugtracker complaining that root login is
+still possible even if you set AllowRootLogin to false, because some
+SUSE-specific script sets it back to true.
+
+So, I don't think this was an upstream KDM change. From the above, it's
+probably something in pam, so let's look there:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at ftgme2</A> ftg]# cat /etc/pam.d/kdm
+#%PAM-1.0
+auth required pam_env.so
+auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet
+auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswdlogin
+auth substack system-auth
+account required pam_nologin.so
+account include system-auth
+password include system-auth
+session optional pam_keyinit.so force revoke
+session required pam_loginuid.so
+session include system-auth
+session optional pam_console.so
+session required pam_namespace.so
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at ftgme2</A> ftg]#
+
+Well. well. Turns out this file is owned by mageia-kde4-config-common.
+And it also turns out that if you comment out that third line, graphical
+root login works just fine.
+
+Looking in the changelog, one finds:
+
+ * Thu Sep 22 2011 mikala &lt;mikala&gt; 2-0.20110921.1.mga2
+ + Revision: 146549
+ - Use directory.trash to create the trash.desktop &amp; remove SOURCE4
+ - Fix rpmlint warnings
+ - use dolphin as a temporary workaround for Home2.desktop
+ - Switch to oxygen instead of iaora for Default &amp; Netbook
+config file
+ - Add pam files for kdm,kcheckpass &amp; kscreensaver in common
+config file
+ - Update version to 2 (we're on Mageia 2)
+ - Add mgabutton as symlink for start-here-kde in the vanilla
+theme to have the ?\194?\171 upstream ?\194?\187 icon since we're
+patching kdebase4-workspace
+ - Fix Provides for common package
+ - Update tarball to fix default kdm &amp; ksplash for vanilla flavour
+ - Use correct prefix for vanilla
+ - Follow luc menut suggestion for kde prefix use
+ - More progress on vanilla flavour :
+ - move configurations files from common to Default/netbook flavors
+ - remove useless configuration files
+ - sync dolphinuirc with upstream
+ - fix alternatives for kde4-config &amp; kdm-config vanilla flavour
+
+Unfortunately, this doesn't say which package owned the pam files before
+that, so it's unclear whether they were changed before this.
+
+So the OP wasn't dreaming, this wasn't an upstream policy change, and it
+was a deliberate decision on somebody's part here. And now you know how
+to disable it if you want.
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> OTOH this discussion is void anyway since the person in charge already
+</I>&gt;<i> decided the case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+Hasn't this thread already said everything that could be said? I can see why
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> if I want a KDE application I have to
+</I>&gt;<i> install the handbook.
+</I>
+Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications
+without their documentation.
+
+I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some
+KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help
+for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking
+at its handbook.
+
+I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in
+&quot;suggested&quot; packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing
+F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and,
+if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the
+purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available.
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 23:36 my mailbox was graced by a message from R James
+who wrote:
+&gt;<i> BTW: I've done some silly things by mis-typing in a terminal as root
+</I>&gt;<i> or forgetting that I am root in an xterm window on my regular user's
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop. When logged into a bright red IceWM session, I tend to be
+</I>&gt;<i> more careful. Once a new system is set up, I rarely use it though.
+</I>
+I found that adding a line in /root/.bashrc:
+ PS1='\n\[\033[1;31m\]\u@\h:\w \$ \[\033[0m\]'
+and adding PS to the export helps avoid this kind of mistake in Konsile or
+terminal.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Gottesm&#252;hlen mahlen langsam,
+ mahlen aber trefflich klein.
+ -- Friedrich von Logau
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <h1>13 April 2012 Archives by author</h1>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:01:09 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:01:09 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:01:09 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01334280288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334280288-01334309257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334282692- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334282692-01334286721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01334282692-01334293316- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01334282692-01334293316-01334303631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01334282692-01334293316-01334316256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
+</A><A NAME="7012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334283351- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334283351-01334309168- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01334283351-01334309168-01334319042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01334283351-01334309168-01334319042-01334324439- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem
+</A><A NAME="7016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334284785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334284785-01334288200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01334284785-01334288200-01334304441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01334284785-01334288200-01334312817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01334284785-01334288200-01334312817-01334323356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01334284785-01334288200-01334312817-01334323356-01334324032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01334284785-01334288200-01334312817-01334323356-01334324032-01334329914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="7017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
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+<LI><A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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