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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007002.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007002.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..011188176 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007002.html @@ -0,0 +1,164 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204122024.48243.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007010.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204122024.48243.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">kbulgrien at att.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7002">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7002">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7002">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7002">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday, April 12, 2012 07:24:49 am Antoine Pitrou wrote: +><i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:51:25 -0500 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> > > lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-d +</I>><i> > > evel +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Which doesn't look right to me. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Regards +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Antoine. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > How about the output of: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > $ urpmq --list-media +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq --list-media +</I>><i> Mageia - 1 - x86_64 DVD +</I>><i> Core Release +</I>><i> Core Release Debug +</I>><i> Core Updates +</I>><i> Core Updates Debug +</I>><i> Core Updates Testing +</I>><i> Core Updates Testing Debug +</I>><i> Core Backports +</I>><i> Core Backports Debug +</I>><i> Core Backports Testing +</I>><i> Core Backports Testing Debug +</I>><i> Nonfree Release +</I>><i> Nonfree Release Debug +</I>><i> Nonfree Updates +</I>><i> Nonfree Updates Debug +</I>><i> Nonfree Updates Testing +</I>><i> Nonfree Updates Testing Debug +</I>><i> Nonfree Backports +</I>><i> Nonfree Backports Debug +</I>><i> Nonfree Backports Testing +</I>><i> Nonfree Backports Testing Debug +</I>><i> Tainted Release +</I>><i> Tainted Release Debug +</I>><i> Tainted Updates +</I>><i> Tainted Updates Debug +</I>><i> Tainted Updates Testing +</I>><i> Tainted Updates Testing Debug +</I>><i> Tainted Backports +</I>><i> Tainted Backports Debug +</I>><i> Tainted Backports Testing +</I>><i> Tainted Backports Testing Debug +</I>><i> Core 32bit Release +</I>><i> Core 32bit Release Debug +</I>><i> Core 32bit Updates +</I>><i> Core 32bit Updates Debug +</I>><i> Core 32bit Updates Testing +</I>><i> Core 32bit Updates Testing Debug +</I>><i> Core 32bit Backports +</I>><i> Core 32bit Backports Debug +</I>><i> Core 32bit Backports Testing +</I>><i> Core 32bit Backports Testing Debug +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Antoine. +</I> +Ok, 32-bit packages are there. + +You can look for the more detailed name like this: + +$ urpmq --media "Core 32bit Updates","Core 32bit Backports" \ + --whatprovides libopenssl-devel + +Then try urpmi using the resulting longer name. I assume the update is in one +of those media, but you could list whatever Core 32bit media names you wanted +to after the --media argument. + +There is a crude method that one can try based on your prior post. I probably +shouldn't show it, but what the heck... + +><i> That said, here is what "urpmi --auto-update" says: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Installation failed: file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from +</I>><i> install of lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 conflicts with +</I>><i> file from package libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586 +</I>><i> file /usr/include/openssl/cms.h from install of +</I>><i> libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 conflicts with file from package +</I>><i> lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64 +</I> +So, now since maybe one doesn't know much about those names, so using a +breaking rocks type method, we chip away the cruft until something works. +Start from the top down until you do not get a message that starts with: + + No package named libopenssl... + +$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 +$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1 +$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3 +$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2 +$ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d + +And so on... + +That's kind of a brain-dead way to approach it, but it works sometimes if you +don't really know how the numbers in the package name correlate to names that +urpmi understands. I tried something similar on a package on my system, and +eventually I got to a name that worked that was more than libopenssl-devel. + +Once you find the suitable long name and try to install it, does it install? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7002">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7002">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7002">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7002">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007003.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007003.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca97ee30a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007003.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6c7emjVcYV15j%3D7%2Bz0_Etj_MuWDw-rcq4Kysqe3EwADw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007010.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007777.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6c7emjVcYV15j%3D7%2Bz0_Etj_MuWDw-rcq4Kysqe3EwADw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 04:04:52 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7003">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7003">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7003">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7003">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/4/12 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>: +><i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:14:25PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> You are right with the criterium "an application I use". But here we +</I>>><i> are talking about handbooks of every single little KDE app being +</I>>><i> forced upon the user, whether he wants/needs it or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Suggest to refrain from saying that you're forced. I don't see how +</I>><i> you're being forced what I think is the common understanding of it +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/force">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/force</A>). Nobody is forcing you to install +</I>><i> this (not having an option != forcing) and you have the freedom to +</I>><i> either change (e.g. rm -rf). Saying you're being forced when clearly +</I>><i> this is not forcing is IMO incorrect. +</I> +Well, discussing semantics is always nice. +Of course I am not forced like I am not forced to install Linux or to +have a computer at all. But if I want a KDE application I have to +install the handbook. No matter how you call that. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7003">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7003">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7003">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7003">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007004.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007004.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5a8928212 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007004.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204122115.51258.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007012.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007009.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204122115.51258.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">kbulgrien at att.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 04:15:51 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7004">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7004">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7004">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7004">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:43:58 am Antoine Pitrou wrote: +><i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:37:56 -0500 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 04:51:05 am Antoine Pitrou wrote: +</I>><i> > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +0200 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Antoine Pitrou <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">solipsis at pitrou.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > > Une erreur est survenue pendant l'installation des paquetages : +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de +</I>><i> > > > lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.x86_64 entre en conflit avec le +</I>><i> > > > fichier du paquetage libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586 +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > le fichier /usr/include/openssl/cms.h de l'installation de +</I>><i> > > > libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 entre en conflit avec le +</I>><i> > > > fichier du paquetage lib64openssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.x86_64 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I removed libopenssl-devel so that the upgrade goes fine. +</I>><i> > > Now I can't reinstall it: +</I>><i> > > <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5365</A> +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Damn. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Antoine. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What happens when you run: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Are two different names displayed? If so, can you install by using the +</I>><i> > more detailed name? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel|lib64openssl-devel +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which doesn't look right to me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Antoine. +</I> +I should have had you do: + +$ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel + +Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7004">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7004">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7004">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7004">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007005.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007005.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..28f5c4235 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007005.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cjm83li%24hfn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007016.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007006.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>TJ</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cjm83li%24hfn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">andrewsfarm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 04:39:45 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7005">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7005">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7005">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7005">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/12/2012 10:05 AM, Rolf Pedersen wrote: + + To sum, again, Linux is not merely a +><i> matter of an individual's choice. +</I>><i> Rolf +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>OK, you win. I wouldn't want to destroy all of Linux just because I +might want a bit of convenience. + +TJ + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7005">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7005">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7005">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7005">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007006.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007006.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf66e324a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007006.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCABrUASmj9-wepX6GtpxgEp9A75F7jVw0_rthUNt-jBv-Sub7bQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007005.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007778.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>R James</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCABrUASmj9-wepX6GtpxgEp9A75F7jVw0_rthUNt-jBv-Sub7bQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">upsnag2 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 05:36:40 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7006">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7006">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7006">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7006">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:39 PM, TJ <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andrewsfarm at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 04/12/2012 10:05 AM, Rolf Pedersen wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK, you win. I wouldn't want to destroy all of Linux just because I might +</I>><i> want a bit of convenience. +</I> +What I"m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide just +the convenience you need: + +# sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm + +# sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\ + /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc + +# service dm restart + +I'm not an official representative of Mageia so if this information leads +to the end of humanity, mageia.org cannot be held responsible. :o) + +BTW: I've done some silly things by mis-typing in a terminal as root +or forgetting that I *am* root in an xterm window on my regular user's +desktop. When logged into a bright red IceWM session, I tend to be +more careful. Once a new system is set up, I rarely use it though. + +Have fun - RJ + +"Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, +as that would also stop them from doing clever things." - Doug Gwyn +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7006">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7006">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7006">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7006">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007007.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007007.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fdc081bdd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007007.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1334293316.15726.48.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007777.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007008.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Liam R E Quin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1334293316.15726.48.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">liam at holoweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 07:01:56 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7007">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7007">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7007">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7007">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> if I want a KDE application I have to +</I>><i> install the handbook. +</I> +Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications +without their documentation. + +I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some +KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help +for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking +at its handbook. + +I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in +"suggested" packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing +F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and, +if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the +purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available. + +Liam + +[oops, why does evolution sometimes reply to lists with my default account??] + +-- +Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A> +Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A> + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7007">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7007">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7007">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7007">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007008.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007008.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f397b99a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007008.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130953.51491.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007007.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007012.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130953.51491.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 09:53:51 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7008">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7008">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7008">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7008">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>fredagen den 13 april 2012 07.01.56 skrev Liam R E Quin: +><i> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>><i> > if I want a KDE application I have to +</I>><i> > install the handbook. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications +</I>><i> without their documentation. +</I> +Some cases I also want all tutorials from internet on the subject, watch +instructive videos... + +><i> I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some +</I>><i> KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help +</I>><i> for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking +</I>><i> at its handbook. +</I> +Yes, but when i know a program.... + +><i> I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in +</I>><i> "suggested" packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing +</I>><i> F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and, +</I>><i> if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the +</I>><i> purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available. +</I> +If i am on a slow network somewhere and want a program, i do not want to waste +time, diskspace nor money in installing something i do not need. + +Some minimal doc could be excused, but it should not automatically start +nertwork use when i ask for help. It could ask, or just say "more +documentation is available in package nn ) + +Now the question maybe is the kde doc are so small it do not matter much, and +i could gain more at just installing programs i need... + +><i> Liam +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [oops, why does evolution sometimes reply to lists with my default +</I>><i> account??] +</I> +Check the doc ;) + +-- +Morgan Leijström +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7008">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7008">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7008">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7008">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007009.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007009.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54048812d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007009.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413112608.325b8a60%40pitrou.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007004.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007013.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Antoine Pitrou</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413112608.325b8a60%40pitrou.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">solipsis at pitrou.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 11:26:08 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7009">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7009">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7009">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7009">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:15:51 -0500 +"Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> I should have had you do: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch. +</I> +Ok: + +$ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +libopenssl-devel +libopenssl-devel +libopenssl-devel +libopenssl-devel + + +Regards + +Antoine. + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7009">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7009">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7009">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7009">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007010.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007010.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bd63e3d93 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007010.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413112737.5ad05878%40pitrou.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007002.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007003.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Antoine Pitrou</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413112737.5ad05878%40pitrou.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">solipsis at pitrou.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 11:27:37 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7010">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7010">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7010">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7010">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:24:48 -0500 +"Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> You can look for the more detailed name like this: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq --media "Core 32bit Updates","Core 32bit Backports" \ +</I>><i> --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I> +Ok: + +$ urpmq --media "Core 32bit Updates","Core 32bit Backports" \ + --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +libopenssl-devel|libopenssl-devel|libopenssl-devel + + +... which doesn't help unfortunately :-) + +But: + +><i> $ sudo urpmi libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 +</I> +worked fine. At least until the next upgrade, I suppose. + +Regards + +Antoine. + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7010">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7010">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7010">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7010">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007011.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007011.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..02e63346b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007011.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F87FF71.4090609%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007778.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007014.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F87FF71.4090609%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 12:26:57 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007778.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7011">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7011">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7011">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7011">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/12/2012 11:36 PM, R James wrote: +><i> What I"m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide just +</I>><i> the convenience you need: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\ +</I>><i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # service dm restart +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that +keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ? 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It's insane to install applications +</I>><i> without their documentation. +</I> +Well, that's your opinion and you may be looking forward to your next +visit in the tool shop when you buy some nails and ask for a +documentation. + +My opinion is to spare the user unwanted installation if he is *sure +that he does not need a doc for a specified application*. That's where +your use case "on the plane" is not valid. If you do not install doc +for an application you are not sure about, then it is your own fault. + +OTOH this discussion is void anyway since the person in charge already +decided the case. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7012">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7012">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7012">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7012">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007013.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007013.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d87f7d625 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007013.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130710.42630.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007009.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007016.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Kevin R. Bulgrien</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130710.42630.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">kbulgrien at att.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 14:10:42 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7013">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7013">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7013">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7013">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday, April 13, 2012 04:26:08 am Antoine Pitrou wrote: +><i> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:15:51 -0500 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > I should have had you do: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Apparently the 32bit stuff doesn't show without the -a switch. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq -a --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> libopenssl-devel +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Antoine. +</I> +Wow. This is a Mageia difference from Mandriva that I am not fond of. + +So now I wonder if this gets the long name that worked. Maybe: + +$ urpmq -a -f --whatprovides libopenssl-devel + +The above seemed to work on Mandriva. + +Or, gasp: + +$ urpmq -a -r --whatprovides libopenssl-devel \ +|<i> awk -v FS="[ \t]*[:][ \t]*" \ +</I>'$1 ~ /^Name/ { printf("%s", $2) } \ + $1 ~ /^Release/ { printf("-%s", $2) } \ + $1 ~ /^Size/ { printf("-%s\n", $3) }' - + +:<i>-) +</I></PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7013">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7013">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7013">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7013">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007014.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007014.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f7e4b7a08 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007014.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cjm99at%24nbs%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007011.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007015.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>TJ</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cjm99at%24nbs%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">andrewsfarm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 15:22:36 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7014">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7014">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7014">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7014">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/13/2012 06:26 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: +><i> On 04/12/2012 11:36 PM, R James wrote: +</I>>><i> What I"m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide +</I>>><i> just +</I>>><i> the convenience you need: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\ +</I>>><i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> # service dm restart +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that +</I>><i> keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ? +</I>><i> +</I>Exactly. And where I get annoyed in this whole conversation is not that +I want to log in as root - I haven't even tried to do that in years. But +the option has been there, should I feel I need it and am prepared to +accept the consequences of my actions. This latest move has removed that +option - according to the OP - and THAT'S what annoys me. + +Mr. Pedersen maintains that I probably don't know what all of those +possible consequences are, and that I could easily not be the only one +affected by them. And even if I do know all of them, there are plenty of +irresponsibles who don't, and we have to protect ourselves from those +types. And he has a point. + +There are plenty of examples in other areas. While I may mistakenly +believe I have the skills to use a mobile communications device while +driving and may even be able to get away with it if I do it sparingly, +99.999% don't have those skills (or luck), so it is illegal in most +areas to protect the rest of us. And there are several cases where +carriers of a disease unwittingly spread that disease without it +affecting them, and these days when one is found he or she is removed +from society before more damage can be done. + +So I understand what he's saying. But it still annoys me when one of my +options is taken away by the heavy hand of the powerful. It's possible +for the powerful to abuse that power, go too far with it, and take away +too much. + +TJ + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7014">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7014">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7014">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7014">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007015.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007015.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b925c42ad --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007015.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F882B40.7010001%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007014.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007017.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F882B40.7010001%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 15:33:52 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7015">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7015">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7015">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7015">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 13.04.2012 15:22, schrieb TJ: +><i> On 04/13/2012 06:26 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: +</I>>><i> On 04/12/2012 11:36 PM, R James wrote: +</I>>>><i> What I"m about to tell you may destroy all of Linux or it may provide +</I>>>><i> just +</I>>>><i> the convenience you need: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> # sed -i 's/user != root//' /etc/pam.d/kdm +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> # sed -i 's/AllowRootLogin=false/AllowRootLogin=true/'\ +</I>>>><i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/Default/share/config/kdm/kdmrc +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> # service dm restart +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Wasn't the contention of the OP that someone had patched KDM so that +</I>>><i> keyword would be ignored no matter what you set it to ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Exactly. And where I get annoyed in this whole conversation is not that +</I>><i> I want to log in as root - I haven't even tried to do that in years. But +</I>><i> the option has been there, should I feel I need it and am prepared to +</I>><i> accept the consequences of my actions. This latest move has removed that +</I>><i> option - according to the OP - and THAT'S what annoys me. +</I>><i> +</I>And as I did say in this thread. I don't see any action by our KDE team +to this effect. Ok, I only scanned over the patches, but I read the +changelog and I saw no sign of anyone patching KDM to ignore it. +So be annoyed with KDE upstream for this change, not with our KDE +maintainers. + +Of course if someone does find a patch on our side, that does it, feel +free to correct me. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007014.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7015">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7015">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7015">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7015">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007016.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007016.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f192664bf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007016.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413154039.7ae15106%40pitrou.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007013.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007005.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem</H1> + <B>Antoine Pitrou</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413154039.7ae15106%40pitrou.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem">solipsis at pitrou.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 15:40:39 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7016">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7016">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7016">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7016">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:10:42 -0500 +"Kevin R. Bulgrien" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Wow. This is a Mageia difference from Mandriva that I am not fond of. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So now I wonder if this gets the long name that worked. Maybe: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> $ urpmq -a -f --whatprovides libopenssl-devel +</I> +libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.mga1.i586 +libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.1.mga1.i586 +libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.2.mga1.i586 +libopenssl-devel-1.0.0d-2.3.mga1.i586 + +Bingo :-) + +Regards + +Antoine. + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007005.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7016">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7016">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7016">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7016">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007017.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007017.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84db38ea4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007017.html @@ -0,0 +1,172 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F88423A.4030003%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007015.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007018.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F88423A.4030003%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 17:11:54 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7017">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7017">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7017">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7017">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/13/2012 09:33 AM, Oliver Burger wrote: +><i> And as I did say in this thread. I don't see any action by our KDE +</I>><i> team to this effect. Ok, I only scanned over the patches, but I read +</I>><i> the changelog and I saw no sign of anyone patching KDM to ignore it. +</I>><i> So be annoyed with KDE upstream for this change, not with our KDE +</I>><i> maintainers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course if someone does find a patch on our side, that does it, feel +</I>><i> free to correct me. +</I> +OK, just to be definitive, I activated KDM, set AllowRootLogin to true, +and tried and failed to login as root. However, KDM may not be the +culprit. From /var/log/auth.log: + +Here's me logging on as root from a tty to do "service dm restart" (I +was previously using GDM): + +Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: pam_tcb(login:auth): Authentication +passed for root from LOGIN(uid=0) +Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: pam_tcb(login:session): Session opened +for root by root(uid=0) +Apr 13 10:13:18 localhost login: ROOT LOGIN ON tty3 +Apr 13 10:13:23 localhost polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered +Authentication Agent for +unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session3 (system bus name +:<i>1.320, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, +</I>locale en_US.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus) + +Now here's two attempts at graphical login as root, followed by a +successful one as ftg: + +Apr 13 10:13:38 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth): +requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "root" +Apr 13 10:13:38 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth): +Authentication passed for root from (uid=0) +Apr 13 10:13:47 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth): +requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "root" +Apr 13 10:13:47 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth): +Authentication passed for root from (uid=0) +Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_succeed_if(kdm:auth): +requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "ftg" +Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:auth): +Authentication passed for ftg from (uid=0) +Apr 13 10:13:58 localhost kdm: :0[22087]: pam_tcb(kdm:session): Session +opened for ftg by ftg(uid=0) + +Note that in the tty login for root and the graphical login for ftg, +there are pam_tcb(kdm:session) entries, while there are none for the +failed graphical root logins. + +It's still possible that this is being done by KDM, but googling turns +up nothing about AllowRootLogin being dropped by upstream. On the +contrary, "true" is the default on OpenSUSE and you can find here: + +<A HREF="http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=7007124&sliceId=1&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1">http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=7007124&sliceId=1&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1</A> + +an open bug in the Novell bugtracker complaining that root login is +still possible even if you set AllowRootLogin to false, because some +SUSE-specific script sets it back to true. + +So, I don't think this was an upstream KDM change. From the above, it's +probably something in pam, so let's look there: + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at ftgme2</A> ftg]# cat /etc/pam.d/kdm +#%PAM-1.0 +auth required pam_env.so +auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet +auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswdlogin +auth substack system-auth +account required pam_nologin.so +account include system-auth +password include system-auth +session optional pam_keyinit.so force revoke +session required pam_loginuid.so +session include system-auth +session optional pam_console.so +session required pam_namespace.so +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at ftgme2</A> ftg]# + +Well. well. Turns out this file is owned by mageia-kde4-config-common. +And it also turns out that if you comment out that third line, graphical +root login works just fine. + +Looking in the changelog, one finds: + + * Thu Sep 22 2011 mikala <mikala> 2-0.20110921.1.mga2 + + Revision: 146549 + - Use directory.trash to create the trash.desktop & remove SOURCE4 + - Fix rpmlint warnings + - use dolphin as a temporary workaround for Home2.desktop + - Switch to oxygen instead of iaora for Default & Netbook +config file + - Add pam files for kdm,kcheckpass & kscreensaver in common +config file + - Update version to 2 (we're on Mageia 2) + - Add mgabutton as symlink for start-here-kde in the vanilla +theme to have the ?\194?\171 upstream ?\194?\187 icon since we're +patching kdebase4-workspace + - Fix Provides for common package + - Update tarball to fix default kdm & ksplash for vanilla flavour + - Use correct prefix for vanilla + - Follow luc menut suggestion for kde prefix use + - More progress on vanilla flavour : + - move configurations files from common to Default/netbook flavors + - remove useless configuration files + - sync dolphinuirc with upstream + - fix alternatives for kde4-config & kdm-config vanilla flavour + +Unfortunately, this doesn't say which package owned the pam files before +that, so it's unclear whether they were changed before this. + +So the OP wasn't dreaming, this wasn't an upstream policy change, and it +was a deliberate decision on somebody's part here. And now you know how +to disable it if you want. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007015.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7017">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7017">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7017">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7017">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007018.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007018.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c102f5ecd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007018.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204140129.05608.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007017.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204140129.05608.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7018">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7018">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7018">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7018">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:12:06 AM Wobo wrote: +><i> OTOH this discussion is void anyway since the person in charge already +</I>><i> decided the case. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I> +Hasn't this thread already said everything that could be said? I can see why +the admin didn't want a mailing list. I am unsubscribing. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007017.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7018">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7018">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7018">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7018">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007777.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007777.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..22d750ff9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007777.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1334284125.15726.35.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007003.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007007.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Liam R E Quin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1334284125.15726.35.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">liam at w3.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 05:12:01 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 04:04 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> if I want a KDE application I have to +</I>><i> install the handbook. +</I> +Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications +without their documentation. + +I'd be really really annoyed if I was on a 'plane and tried to use some +KDE application (I'm normally a Gnome user) and found there was no Help +for it. It's unusual that I can figure out a KDE program without looking +at its handbook. + +I suppose a compromise might be that the handbooks could be in +"suggested" packages alongside each program, though, as long as pressing +F1 automatically installed them, and explained what it was doing, and, +if it failed, fell back to some minimal documentation explaining the +purpose of the program and why the full documentation was not available. + +Liam + +-- +Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A> +Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A> + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007778.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007778.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d22a89a7d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/007778.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130402.58790.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007006.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007011.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204130402.58790.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 10:07:21 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7778">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7778">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7778">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7778">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 23:36 my mailbox was graced by a message from R James +who wrote: +><i> BTW: I've done some silly things by mis-typing in a terminal as root +</I>><i> or forgetting that I am root in an xterm window on my regular user's +</I>><i> desktop. When logged into a bright red IceWM session, I tend to be +</I>><i> more careful. Once a new system is set up, I rarely use it though. +</I> +I found that adding a line in /root/.bashrc: + PS1='\n\[\033[1;31m\]\u@\h:\w \$ \[\033[0m\]' +and adding PS to the export helps avoid this kind of mistake in Konsile or +terminal. + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Gottesmühlen mahlen langsam, + mahlen aber trefflich klein. + -- Friedrich von Logau + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007006.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007011.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7778">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7778">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7778">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7778">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ae0935ffd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120413/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 13 April 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>13 April 2012 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 03:24:48 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Apr 13 17:29:05 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 19<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="007003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7003"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7012"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade problem +</A><A NAME="7002"> </A> +<I>Kevin R. 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