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+ <B>e-letter</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6Y0in3X3j7gRa6H6dS%3DyYUJj7ameBRn9Hg4mg%2B8gw0_w%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">inpost at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Mar 6 00:46:33 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 05/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 4
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 22:33:07 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> From: WALKER RICHARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi, I'm no network expert but I have some practical experience with
+</I>&gt;<i> home networks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The first thing I would do is check the IP addresses on your home
+</I>&gt;<i> computers. Did you configure these yourself, or are you getting
+</I>&gt;<i> addresses from a DHCP service on your router. The &quot;ifconfig&quot; command
+</I>&gt;<i> issued on each machine should hopefully show you both/all machines
+</I>&gt;<i> have addresses in the same network; likely possibilities are
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ip addresses were not configured
+
+&gt;<i> 192.168.0.?
+</I>&gt;<i> 192.168.1.?
+</I>
+Only each computer is seen, i.e. 'ifconfig' on computer A shows only
+the ip address for computer A and similarly for computer B. Both
+computers using mandriva. Both connected to the same netgear broadband
+router and both are able to connect to the internet.
+
+&gt;<i> 10.0.0.?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there is a DHCP service running on the router then the chances are
+</I>&gt;<i> high that you can do what you want and perhaps you are being prevented
+</I>&gt;<i> by firewalls on the computers themselves.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using the Mandriva Control Centre go to the Security panel and
+</I>&gt;<i> double-click the &quot;Personal firewall&quot; option. While you are having
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;fun&quot; getting the net working it may be a good idea to disable the
+</I>&gt;<i> firewalls by ticking the &quot;Everything&quot; box in the &quot;Which services would
+</I>&gt;<i> you like to allow the Internet to connect to?&quot; list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Both disabled and re-enabled; no effect.
+
+&gt;<i> Now you can try the nmap command to see what your computer can see. It
+</I>&gt;<i> should already be installed but it's no more than a quick &quot;urpmi nmap&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> away. My net is using 192.168.0.? so here is the output I see from
+</I>&gt;<i> nmap;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at Tureen</A> rich]# nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Starting Nmap 5.51.6 ( <A HREF="http://nmap.org">http://nmap.org</A> ) at 2012-03-04 22:29 GMT
+</I>&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.101
+</I>&gt;<i> Host is up.
+</I>&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.116
+</I>&gt;<i> Host is up (0.000097s latency).
+</I>
+Similar above visible in command terminal.
+
+&gt;<i> MAC Address: 00:19:DB:4E:A8:61 (Micro-star International CO.)
+</I>
+no mac visible
+
+&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for gunn (192.168.0.128)
+</I>&gt;<i> Host is up (0.00015s latency).
+</I>
+visible
+
+&gt;<i> MAC Address: 00:10:4B:C3:BF:8C (3com)
+</I>
+not visible
+
+&gt;<i> Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 10.44 seconds
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Aren't there terminal commands available to achieve network functionality?
+</PRE>
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+ <B>WALKER RICHARD</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BHvzUR78ZQZwPu7M74ozmnghLenVx4Atrp2tyvkS4tHBA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com
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+ <I>Tue Mar 6 01:47:01 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Quick answer; yes
+
+man ifconfig should get you started. From memory you can set an
+address for an ethernet card with something like;
+
+ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.22
+
+That implicitly brings up the connection.
+
+This much is already working for you as you say both PCs can reach the
+internet. So let's take a step back. I don't want you to &quot;publish&quot;
+your PC addresses, but if they are both on the same network then they
+should both have addresses in the private network ranges. The most
+common on routers are;
+
+10.?.?.?
+192.168.?.?
+
+If they have some other address range then they are likely to be
+publicly accessible and there is no Network Address Translation being
+carried out by your router.
+
+Can you configure your router? Do you know if it has a web-based
+configuration address? If you haven't come across this before, this is
+a &quot;web page&quot; generated by your router which provides access to its
+configuration by means of forms on web pages. It is normally accessed
+by entering the address in your browser, but this cannot easily work
+if your PC and your router are on different networks, with different
+address ranges. For example, the router might be on 192.168.1.1 and
+your PC is on a.b.x.x where a and b are NOT 192 and 168.
+
+Let us take one more step back. When you configured your network on
+each computer (using MCC?) did you opt for manual or automatic (via
+DHCP) configuration of the network address? That, I think, is the key
+starting point.
+
+If it is manual then you chose the addresses and typed them in. If it
+is automatic (via DHCP) then they will have been allocated by EITHER
+your router (which seems unlikely given the trouble your having) OR by
+your ISP, and that means they are permitting you to have more than one
+public address for your location AND that the address really is
+public; if I knew your address I could probe your network - that is
+potentially highly risky and is why the common practice, in these
+parts, is for each subscriber to get one public address and have the
+modem/router provide NAT for private networks on the premises.
+
+I hope I haven't confused the issue. Let me re-state the important questions:
+1. Are your PC addresses similar to each other?
+2. Are they in the private network range? (10.?.?.? or 192.168.?.?)
+3. Do you have the make and model of your router? (yes/no will do for now.)
+
+
+Richard
+
+
+
+On 05/03/2012, e-letter &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">inpost at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 05/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Message: 4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 22:33:07 +0000
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: WALKER RICHARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi, I'm no network expert but I have some practical experience with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> home networks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The first thing I would do is check the IP addresses on your home
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computers. Did you configure these yourself, or are you getting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> addresses from a DHCP service on your router. The &quot;ifconfig&quot; command
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issued on each machine should hopefully show you both/all machines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have addresses in the same network; likely possibilities are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ip addresses were not configured
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 192.168.0.?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 192.168.1.?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only each computer is seen, i.e. 'ifconfig' on computer A shows only
+</I>&gt;<i> the ip address for computer A and similarly for computer B. Both
+</I>&gt;<i> computers using mandriva. Both connected to the same netgear broadband
+</I>&gt;<i> router and both are able to connect to the internet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 10.0.0.?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If there is a DHCP service running on the router then the chances are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> high that you can do what you want and perhaps you are being prevented
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by firewalls on the computers themselves.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Using the Mandriva Control Centre go to the Security panel and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> double-click the &quot;Personal firewall&quot; option. While you are having
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;fun&quot; getting the net working it may be a good idea to disable the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> firewalls by ticking the &quot;Everything&quot; box in the &quot;Which services would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you like to allow the Internet to connect to?&quot; list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both disabled and re-enabled; no effect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now you can try the nmap command to see what your computer can see. It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should already be installed but it's no more than a quick &quot;urpmi nmap&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> away. My net is using 192.168.0.? so here is the output I see from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nmap;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at Tureen</A> rich]# nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Starting Nmap 5.51.6 ( <A HREF="http://nmap.org">http://nmap.org</A> ) at 2012-03-04 22:29 GMT
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.101
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Host is up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.116
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Host is up (0.000097s latency).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Similar above visible in command terminal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MAC Address: 00:19:DB:4E:A8:61 (Micro-star International CO.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no mac visible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nmap scan report for gunn (192.168.0.128)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Host is up (0.00015s latency).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> visible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MAC Address: 00:10:4B:C3:BF:8C (3com)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not visible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 10.44 seconds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aren't there terminal commands available to achieve network functionality?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20application&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_OUHkuKeuMOv8m%3D6eo2Tj%3DejkLqR2ytK-D8-9P0xQxOaA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Board application">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+ <I>Tue Mar 6 14:53:22 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+I'd like to apply for the board elections as a candidate., So I will
+follow the steps, misc has outlined in his mail to all association
+members.
+I am cc'ing mageia-discuss, because I think, the whole project should
+at least know, who the board candidates are and what they are doing.
+
+First, let me tell you abit about me:
+In real life, I am a 33 year old &quot;dual student&quot; (meaning I work in
+parallel in a company), I am working as a web developer (mainly using
+php) and I live in the south-west of Germany.
+Now about my Mageia life: I was joining the Mageia mls and irc
+channels in the beginning, being a long time Mandriva user and member
+of the German mandrivauser.de community. Together with wobo I helped
+in the creation of the i18n team. In the beginning I was i18n
+substitute leader and when wobo had to step down for personal reasons,
+I was elected its team leader.
+Next to that I was helping rda a bit on the website and I am in
+packaging and documentation team.
+
+The reasons, why I apply for the board:
+I think, being a board member is an important task. You have to be
+dedicated to the project and you have to represent it in the public.
+It's more about a duty to the project then about having a somewhat
+shining position.
+I was first thinking about applying to the board, when wobo asked me
+to do so, telling me he had to step down from that position as well,
+because he feels, he can no longer take an active position in the
+project as he did in the beginning.
+Although I am more involved in the technical fields of the project
+then wobo was, being an i18n and doc team member makes me part of the
+non technical fields as well.
+So I would add to the manifoldness of the board.
+
+Oliver
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to apply for the board elections as a candidate., So I will
+</I>&gt;<i> follow the steps, misc has outlined in his mail to all association
+</I>&gt;<i> members.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am cc'ing mageia-discuss, because I think, the whole project should
+</I>&gt;<i> at least know, who the board candidates are and what they are doing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, let me tell you abit about me:
+</I>&gt;<i> In real life, I am a 33 year old &quot;dual student&quot; (meaning I work in
+</I>&gt;<i> parallel in a company), I am working as a web developer &#160;(mainly using
+</I>&gt;<i> php) and I live in the south-west of Germany.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now about my Mageia life: I was joining the Mageia mls and irc
+</I>&gt;<i> channels in the beginning, being a long time Mandriva user and member
+</I>&gt;<i> of the German mandrivauser.de community. Together with wobo I helped
+</I>&gt;<i> in the creation of the i18n team. In the beginning I was i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> substitute leader and when wobo had to step down for personal reasons,
+</I>&gt;<i> I was elected its team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> Next to that I was helping rda a bit on the website and I am in
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging and documentation team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The reasons, why I apply for the board:
+</I>&gt;<i> I think, being a board member is an important task. You have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated to the project and you have to represent it in the public.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's more about a duty to the project then about having a somewhat
+</I>&gt;<i> shining position.
+</I>&gt;<i> I was first thinking about applying to the board, when wobo asked me
+</I>&gt;<i> to do so, telling me he had to step down from that position as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> because he feels, he can no longer take an active position in the
+</I>&gt;<i> project as he did in the beginning.
+</I>&gt;<i> Although I am more involved in the technical fields of the project
+</I>&gt;<i> then wobo was, being an i18n and doc team member makes me part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> non technical fields as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I would add to the manifoldness of the board.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+As leaving member of the board I support the candidature of Oliver.
+IMHO he is the right person to represent the rest of the world in the
+otherwise french board. :)
+
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+&gt;<i> As leaving member of the board I support the candidature of Oliver.
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO he is the right person to represent the rest of the world in the
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise french board. :)
+</I>To be exact, it's not totally French, since tmb was from Finland, last
+time I saw him :)
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As leaving member of the board I support the candidature of Oliver.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO he is the right person to represent the rest of the world in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise french board. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> To be exact, it's not totally French, since tmb was from Finland, last
+</I>&gt;<i> time I saw him :)
+</I>
+My apologies to the whole Finnish nation and to tmb, having mistaken
+him for being french :)
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+&gt;<i> My apologies to the whole Finnish nation and to tmb, having mistaken
+</I>&gt;<i> him for being french:)
+</I>
+And where are the apologies that are now due to the french?
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+&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 03:16 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My apologies to the whole Finnish nation and to tmb, having mistaken
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> him for being french:)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And where are the apologies that are now due to the french?
+</I>
+Not needed, I'm German.
+
+--
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to apply for the board elections as a candidate., So I will
+</I>&gt;<i> follow the steps, misc has outlined in his mail to all association
+</I>&gt;<i> members.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am cc'ing mageia-discuss, because I think, the whole project should
+</I>&gt;<i> at least know, who the board candidates are and what they are doing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, let me tell you abit about me:
+</I>&gt;<i> In real life, I am a 33 year old &quot;dual student&quot; (meaning I work in
+</I>&gt;<i> parallel in a company), I am working as a web developer (mainly using
+</I>&gt;<i> php) and I live in the south-west of Germany.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now about my Mageia life: I was joining the Mageia mls and irc
+</I>&gt;<i> channels in the beginning, being a long time Mandriva user and member
+</I>&gt;<i> of the German mandrivauser.de community. Together with wobo I helped
+</I>&gt;<i> in the creation of the i18n team. In the beginning I was i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> substitute leader and when wobo had to step down for personal reasons,
+</I>&gt;<i> I was elected its team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> Next to that I was helping rda a bit on the website and I am in
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging and documentation team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The reasons, why I apply for the board:
+</I>&gt;<i> I think, being a board member is an important task. You have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated to the project and you have to represent it in the public.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's more about a duty to the project then about having a somewhat
+</I>&gt;<i> shining position.
+</I>&gt;<i> I was first thinking about applying to the board, when wobo asked me
+</I>&gt;<i> to do so, telling me he had to step down from that position as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> because he feels, he can no longer take an active position in the
+</I>&gt;<i> project as he did in the beginning.
+</I>&gt;<i> Although I am more involved in the technical fields of the project
+</I>&gt;<i> then wobo was, being an i18n and doc team member makes me part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> non technical fields as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I would add to the manifoldness of the board.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+I support Oliver's candidature - aside from any perceived national
+imbalance 8-), and his obvious talents, I'm impressed by the amount he
+packs into his life! If you want something done, ask a busy person.
+
+Oliver, if you burn out, you can always come and collapse at my place...
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 7 07:07:17 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 2 day(s), 59 hour(s), 50 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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