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Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%202%20bootstrap%20time%20is%203%20times%20that%20of%0A%20Mageia1&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v9duxlq3n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 00:16:23 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006457.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6456">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6456">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6456">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6456">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:41:17 -0500, Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>> wrote: + +><i> Looks like substantial time is spent in network configuration: my +</I>><i> controller is an 82566DM-2, I am using the drivers installed at +</I> +Try specifying "MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes" in +/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0. + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006457.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6456">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6456">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6456">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6456">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006457.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006457.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b82d559d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006457.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v9dvuloqn7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006456.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006459.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?</H1> + <B>David W. Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v9dvuloqn7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 00:36:11 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006459.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6457">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6457">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6457">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6457">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:23:58 -0500, nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> The problem is the bad update, not that it was allowed without root +</I>><i> password. Updates should not hose the system, and that's why there is a +</I>><i> policy on no new versions in update when possible, and qa tests. +</I> +The main problem I've seen with updates breaking a system happens when +there is a large number of updates (such as kde), and the mirror you're +updating from synced in the middle of the main repositories being updated. + +I think the best solution would require the primary repositories to have +some sort of a lock, so that they cannot be synced from in the middle of +an update, or better yet, some way to have all updates put into a hidden +directory, until they have all been loaded, and then have a single operation +that puts all of the updates into the active directories without allowing +any downstream mirror to sync while that's happening. + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006459.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6457">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6457">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6457">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6457">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006458.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006458.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0daea926c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006458.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v9dv0ou1n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006461.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006460.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?</H1> + <B>David W. Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v9dv0ou1n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 00:39:50 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006461.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006460.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6458">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6458">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6458">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6458">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:35:01 -0500, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + + +><i> The risk is the lack of QA, and I have been repeating this since a long +</I> +On Mandriva, I agree, which is why I haven't allowed users I support on +Mandriva systems, to install updates themselves. Too many times I've +seen unsigned packages, or file conflicts, etc. + +With Mageia, being on the qa team myself, these type of problems are +being caught before the update gets moved from Testing to Updates. + +There is still the problem of mirrors only getting part of a large +update, which can break a system, that needs to be fixed. + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006461.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006460.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6458">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6458">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6458">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6458">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006459.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006459.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..99ef0d094 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006459.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201202090058.56031.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006457.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006461.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201202090058.56031.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 00:58:56 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006457.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006461.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6459">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6459">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6459">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6459">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 09 februari 2012 00:36:11 schreef David W. Hodgins: +><i> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:23:58 -0500, nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> > The problem is the bad update, not that it was allowed without root +</I>><i> > password. Updates should not hose the system, and that's why there is a +</I>><i> > policy on no new versions in update when possible, and qa tests. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The main problem I've seen with updates breaking a system happens when +</I>><i> there is a large number of updates (such as kde), and the mirror you're +</I>><i> updating from synced in the middle of the main repositories being updated. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the best solution would require the primary repositories to have +</I>><i> some sort of a lock, so that they cannot be synced from in the middle of +</I>><i> an update, or better yet, some way to have all updates put into a hidden +</I>><i> directory, until they have all been loaded, and then have a single +</I>><i> operation that puts all of the updates into the active directories without +</I>><i> allowing any downstream mirror to sync while that's happening. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I> +well, you can't control the mirrors, but iinm pterjan tried to minimize it +yesterday... + +we'll see how things turn out +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006457.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006461.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6459">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6459">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6459">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6459">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006460.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006460.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..37d1d9c63 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006460.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201202090107.51834.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006458.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006462.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201202090107.51834.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 01:07:51 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006458.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006462.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6460">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6460">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6460">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6460">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 09 februari 2012 00:39:50 schreef David W. Hodgins: +><i> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:35:01 -0500, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > The risk is the lack of QA, and I have been repeating this since a long +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mandriva, I agree, which is why I haven't allowed users I support on +</I>><i> Mandriva systems, to install updates themselves. Too many times I've +</I>><i> seen unsigned packages, or file conflicts, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With Mageia, being on the qa team myself, these type of problems are +</I>><i> being caught before the update gets moved from Testing to Updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is still the problem of mirrors only getting part of a large +</I>><i> update, which can break a system, that needs to be fixed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I> +maybe possible ideas: + +updates are being done by moving them. are we moving them and after move +regenerating hdlists? or using hardlinks? if the time is closer together and +hdlist is generated at a single time, i would guess it's less chance of +mirrors getting a bad time. + +maybe the best way to handle this case is to detect incomplete hdlists +(somehow) and skipping this update and falling back to the previous one, and +still having the older uploads available. + +I don't know if that means we would need stricter versioned requires for +certain packages? + + +on cauldron or updates_testing, it could be interesting to have an upload +queue that will hold the package in it, until all dependencies are resolved +(mostly packages which requires these versions), and then uploading them all +at the same time with only once regenerating hdlists. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006458.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006462.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6460">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6460">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6460">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6460">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006461.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006461.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e785c9ba9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006461.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4F330E82.6080607%40Rock3d.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006459.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006458.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?</H1> + <B>imnotpc</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20possible%20risk%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4F330E82.6080607%40Rock3d.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ?">imnotpc at Rock3d.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Feb 9 01:08:34 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006459.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006458.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6461">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6461">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6461">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6461">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 02/08/2012 06:36 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote: +><i> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:23:58 -0500, nicolas vigier +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> The problem is the bad update, not that it was allowed without root +</I>>><i> password. Updates should not hose the system, and that's why there is a +</I>>><i> policy on no new versions in update when possible, and qa tests. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The main problem I've seen with updates breaking a system happens when +</I>><i> there is a large number of updates (such as kde), and the mirror you're +</I>><i> updating from synced in the middle of the main repositories being +</I>><i> updated. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the best solution would require the primary repositories to have +</I>><i> some sort of a lock, so that they cannot be synced from in the middle of +</I>><i> an update, or better yet, some way to have all updates put into a hidden +</I>><i> directory, until they have all been loaded, and then have a single +</I>><i> operation +</I>><i> that puts all of the updates into the active directories without allowing +</I>><i> any downstream mirror to sync while that's happening. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I>I believe if you request/require mirrors to use rsync --delete-after +--delay-updates when they sync it will eliminate this issue since +changes shouldn't become visible until the sync in complete. + +Jeff +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006459.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? 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Please also attach the svg to the bug. + + +-- +Regards, +Olav +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006464.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6465">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6465">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6465">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6465">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006466.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006466.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..129fd13f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006466.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%202%20bootstrap%20time%20is%203%20times%20that%20of%0A%09Mageia1&In-Reply-To=%3C201202091034.40338.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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if they were run in parallel it could take much +longer time as the disk head then need to jump around (for checking different +filesystems on same drive) + +-- +Morgan Leijström +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6466">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6466">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6466">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6466">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006467.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006467.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..15b5bd3f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006467.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%202%20bootstrap%20time%20is%203%20times%20that%20of%0A%20Mageia1&In-Reply-To=%3C88915c142943e1f6e6b4fc438d0c34fc.squirrel%40mail.rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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if they were run in parallel it could take +</I>><i> much +</I>><i> longer time as the disk head then need to jump around (for checking +</I>><i> different +</I>><i> filesystems on same drive) +</I> +so, what if it _is_ a diff drive? +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6467">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6467">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6467">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6467">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006468.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006468.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..98b4e0d90 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120209/006468.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%202%20bootstrap%20time%20is%203%20times%20that%20of%0A%09Mageia1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F340F9A.7050302%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Please also attach the svg to the bug. +</I> +Sure, I will - Can you advise on what "Component" to file the bug - +Release? (there is no systemd rpm package)? and is this an ordinary bug +or an enhancement bug? + + > Also see some stuff that I wonder is needed: + > - speech-dispatcherd.service + > - portreserve.service + + > Think the following is not needed under systemd: + > - mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service (systemd can do this) + > - mandriva-save-dmesg.service + +There may be a secondary issue related on how these services are pulled +in - I certainly did not explicitely request them at sysinstall: I +always do a minimum install (custom, keep only kde and unchecking all +other selectable groups), and run a script after the initial boot that +does the updates and than loads the packages that I really need - +obtaining reproduceable configurations (with, for instance, no +"speech-dispatcher" mentioned). + +Juergen +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006469.html">[Mageia-discuss] What need to be done in mageia in theme of efects/music? 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Hodgins +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01328744390-01328746071- --> +<LI><A HREF="006460.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A><A NAME="6460"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01328746332- --> +<LI><A HREF="006462.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A><A NAME="6462"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--0 01328772200- --> +<LI><A HREF="006463.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : A possible risk ? +</A><A NAME="6463"> </A> +<I>Mehdi Hadjard +</I> + +<!--0 01328775108- --> +<LI><A HREF="006464.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A><A NAME="6464"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<!--0 01328776886- --> +<LI><A HREF="006465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A><A NAME="6465"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01328776886-01328780080- --> +<LI><A HREF="006466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A><A NAME="6466"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01328776886-01328780080-01328787589- --> +<LI><A HREF="006467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A><A NAME="6467"> </A> +<I>AL13N +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01328776886-01328811930- --> +<LI><A HREF="006468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 bootstrap time is 3 times that of Mageia1 +</A><A NAME="6468"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01328817564- --> +<LI><A HREF="006469.html">[Mageia-discuss] What need to be done in mageia in theme of efects/music? +</A><A NAME="6469"> </A> +<I>José Alberto Valle Cid +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Thu Feb 9 20:59:24 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Feb 9 20:59:49 CET 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |