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+ <B>Deri James</B>
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+<PRE>On Friday 31 Aug 2012 22:42:26 Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Why not simply have sshd listen on 2 ports and skip need for port
+</I>&gt;<i> forwarding?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just uncomment the &quot;Port 22&quot; line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
+</I>&gt;<i> and add a second line with the second port
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so it would look like
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Port 22
+</I>&gt;<i> Port 5122
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and restart sshd
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with this all access that expects port 22 will continue to work,
+</I>&gt;<i> and you can also access it through the new 5122 port.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Simple and effective, and no portforwarding needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+And add 5122/tcp to the &quot;Advanced&quot; tab in MCC -&gt; Security -&gt; Personal Firewall
+(if you are using a personal firewall).
+
+If the server is accessible from the internet I would recommend some further
+changes to sshd_conf. This is what I use (assuming this is a server for
+personal use, not with hundreds of users connecting):-
+
+=================================================
+
+LoginGraceTime 120
+PermitRootLogin no
+
+TCPKeepAlive yes
+
+AllowUsers -&gt;your user name here&lt;-
+MaxStartups 2:90:4
+
+==================================================
+
+The &quot;MaxStartups&quot; parameter deters the script kiddies trying to guess the
+password:-
+
+
+MaxStartups
+========
+
+Specifies the maximum number of concurrent unauthenticated connections to the
+SSH daemon. Additional connections will be dropped until authentication
+succeeds or the LoginGraceTime expires for a connection. The default is 10.
+
+Alternatively, random early drop can be enabled by specifying the three colon
+separated values &#8220;start:rate:full&#8221; (e.g. &quot;10:30:60&quot;). sshd(8) will refuse
+connection attempts with a probability of &#8220;rate/100&#8221; (30%) if there are
+currently &#8220;start&#8221; (10) unauthenticated connections. The probability increases
+linearly and all connection attempts are refused if the number of
+unauthenticated connections reaches &#8220;full&#8221; (60).
+
+Cheers
+
+Deri
+
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 31 augustus 2012 20:23:02 schreef Anne Wilson:
+&gt;<i> On 31/08/12 16:28, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 31 augustus 2012 12:41:37 schreef Anne Wilson: I need to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; set up ssh in such a way that it comes in on a high port, say 5122
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which is forwarded to 22 - or otherwise to have ssh listen on 5122.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I assume this is beyond MCC, and will entail editing iptables. This
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is not something I'm familiar with. Can someone please advise me?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; better to put it in shorewall:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use the /etc/shorewall/rules file... on top of the file (and man
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shorewall- rules) is documented...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd love to - but I'm not having much success. After much reading of
+</I>&gt;<i> man pages (largely gobbledegook if you don't already know it) and
+</I>&gt;<i> tutorials from
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://runtime.bordeaux.inria.fr/oaumage/oa/Teaching/ARSA_06/Shorewall/">http://runtime.bordeaux.inria.fr/oaumage/oa/Teaching/ARSA_06/Shorewall/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (much
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to understand) I ended up adding lines like
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> DNAT net loc:192.168.0.40 tcp 143 5143
+</I>&gt;<i> DNAT net loc:192.168.0.40 tcp 22 5122
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An attempt to restart seems to imply that I can't forward two
+</I>&gt;<i> addresses like this, so I assume I'm on the wrong track altogether.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before adding those lines I used to get
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.40 port 5122: Connection refused
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now it just hangs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depressing :-( This worked so easily and perfectly with the old,
+</I>&gt;<i> unreliable LinkSys router. Now I have to find a way to configure it
+</I>&gt;<i> on local firewalls, and frankly I'm simply not up to it.
+</I>
+i also saw that DNAT is for port forwarding to another machine in the lan,
+while REDIRECT is for port forwarding on the firewall itself
+
+so:
+
+#ACTION SRC DST PROTO DPORT SPORT
+REDIRECT net 22 tcp 5122 -
+
+(man page mentions that DEST parameter in case of REDIRECT can be $FW::port,
+but can also be only the port where it should be forwarded TO.
+
+if 192.1680.40 is indeed your shorewall FW ip for that machine.
+
+
+source port is not something you'll be using, almost never used. (your last
+column)
+
+no offense, it seems to me that you're lacking some basic networking and
+firewalling knowledge to really understand what you're trying to do. If you
+want to learn such things, you could probably read up on the low-low basics of
+networking. (often people have middle understanding, but not the low basics,
+so they then mash up different things together.)
+
+in this case, remember the following:
+
+for tcp/udp, every ip packet has a source ip and dest ip. but also a source
+port and a dest port (iow: the dst has an ip and port it listens on; and the
+src has an ip and uses a source port to send it from, often in case of TCP,
+the reply has everything in reverse, including the ports)
+
+ex:
+192.168.0.50:54134 --&gt; 192.168.0.40:22 (user sends 'echo hello world')
+192.168.0.40:22 --&gt; 192.168.0.40:54134 (server sends back 'hello world')
+192.168.0.50:54134 --&gt; 192.168.0.40:22 ...
+
+also, to debug networking issues: tcpdump is a good program for it, you can
+see all the traffic that passes through an interface.
+
+good luck
+</PRE>
+
+
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu skrev 2012-08-31 20:30:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 31 August 2012 20:20, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we should just unsubcribe people who send these things, if it's an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh yea, I forgot to say. I took the liberty to unsubscribed both lists it appeared on, before I fired away my last mail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'd like to apologize for this kind of email to the wrong place. I
+didn't uncheck the checkbox before I clicked SEND &amp; I take full
+responsibility for it.
+I understand if anyone should feel offended by theese emails. It wasn't
+my intent to send those to this ML.
+Again...... I'm very very sorry.
+
+It won't happen again since I've deleted the contact from the list in
+Zoosk.com
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+&gt;<i> It wasn't my intent to send those to this ML.
+</I>
+No worries. I had a feeling this was a mistake. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> Hi guys
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where can I find the isos for mga3 alpha1?
+</I>
+In the future. As announced Alpha is due on Sept 4.
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+On 31/08/12 23:16, Deri James wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 31 Aug 2012 22:42:26 Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not simply have sshd listen on 2 ports and skip need for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> port forwarding?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks, Thomas and Deri.
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just uncomment the &quot;Port 22&quot; line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a second line with the second port
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so it would look like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Port 22 Port 5122
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and restart sshd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with this all access that expects port 22 will continue to work,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and you can also access it through the new 5122 port.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Simple and effective, and no portforwarding needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>Done
+
+&gt;<i> And add 5122/tcp to the &quot;Advanced&quot; tab in MCC -&gt; Security -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Personal Firewall (if you are using a personal firewall).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Also done
+
+&gt;<i> If the server is accessible from the internet I would recommend
+</I>&gt;<i> some further changes to sshd_conf. This is what I use (assuming
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a server for personal use, not with hundreds of users
+</I>&gt;<i> connecting):-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> =================================================
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LoginGraceTime 120
+</I>
+Was 2m - I assume that is minutes and you gave seconds. Changed it anyway
+
+&gt;<i> PermitRootLogin no
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TCPKeepAlive yes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Both already set
+
+&gt;<i> AllowUsers -&gt;your user name here&lt;- MaxStartups 2:90:4
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==================================================
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;MaxStartups&quot; parameter deters the script kiddies trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> guess the password:-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> MaxStartups ========
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Specifies the maximum number of concurrent unauthenticated
+</I>&gt;<i> connections to the SSH daemon. Additional connections will be
+</I>&gt;<i> dropped until authentication succeeds or the LoginGraceTime expires
+</I>&gt;<i> for a connection. The default is 10.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alternatively, random early drop can be enabled by specifying the
+</I>&gt;<i> three colon separated values &#8220;start:rate:full&#8221; (e.g. &quot;10:30:60&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i> sshd(8) will refuse connection attempts with a probability of
+</I>&gt;<i> &#8220;rate/100&#8221; (30%) if there are currently &#8220;start&#8221; (10)
+</I>&gt;<i> unauthenticated connections. The probability increases linearly and
+</I>&gt;<i> all connection attempts are refused if the number of
+</I>&gt;<i> unauthenticated connections reaches &#8220;full&#8221; (60).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Done. Also fail2ban is installed, which should give another layer of
+protection. I've used that for ~3 years, and in that time only seen
+3-4 times when it had to work, but work it did :-)
+
+Unfortunately, after adding the IMAP high port to shorewall and
+telling dovecot to listen to that port, I still can't get my Roaming
+mail profile to work. I'll have to explore more later today.
+
+Thanks for the help so far.
+
+Anne
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+ <B>Tony Blackwell</B>
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+<PRE>New HD in laptop, M1 install in one partition, fully updated it on-line,
+then changed boot from grub to lilo. Booting now is unusually slow,
+building up a slow couple of lines of dots as if still decompressing
+stuff like on installation. Eventually boots OK. Ideas on cause/fix?
+(and yes, I like lilo, even if the writing is on the wall...)
+
+Apologies in advance - I might be slow responding re this, 36 hrs plus
+plane flights coming up tomorrow... Ideas to try on the plane?
+Tony Blackwell
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+&gt;<i> New HD in laptop, M1 install in one partition, fully updated it on-line,
+</I>&gt;<i> then changed boot from grub to lilo. Booting now is unusually slow,
+</I>&gt;<i> building up a slow couple of lines of dots as if still decompressing
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff like on installation. Eventually boots OK. Ideas on cause/fix?
+</I>&gt;<i> (and yes, I like lilo, even if the writing is on the wall...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies in advance - I might be slow responding re this, 36 hrs plus
+</I>&gt;<i> plane flights coming up tomorrow... Ideas to try on the plane?
+</I>&gt;<i> Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+I would imagine it is probably building dkms kernel modules. It
+shouldn't happen every boot though if it is.
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+On 01/09/12 10:10, Anne Wilson wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 31/08/12 23:16, Deri James wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 31 Aug 2012 22:42:26 Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why not simply have sshd listen on 2 ports and skip need for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> port forwarding?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Thomas and Deri.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just uncomment the &quot;Port 22&quot; line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> add a second line with the second port
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so it would look like
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Port 22 Port 5122
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and restart sshd
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with this all access that expects port 22 will continue to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work, and you can also access it through the new 5122 port.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Simple and effective, and no portforwarding needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And add 5122/tcp to the &quot;Advanced&quot; tab in MCC -&gt; Security -&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personal Firewall (if you are using a personal firewall).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the server is accessible from the internet I would recommend
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some further changes to sshd_conf. This is what I use (assuming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is a server for personal use, not with hundreds of users
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connecting):-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> =================================================
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LoginGraceTime 120
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Was 2m - I assume that is minutes and you gave seconds. Changed
+</I>&gt;<i> it anyway
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PermitRootLogin no
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TCPKeepAlive yes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both already set
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AllowUsers -&gt;your user name here&lt;- MaxStartups 2:90:4
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ==================================================
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;MaxStartups&quot; parameter deters the script kiddies trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guess the password:-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MaxStartups ========
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Specifies the maximum number of concurrent unauthenticated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connections to the SSH daemon. Additional connections will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dropped until authentication succeeds or the LoginGraceTime
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expires for a connection. The default is 10.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alternatively, random early drop can be enabled by specifying the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> three colon separated values &#8220;start:rate:full&#8221; (e.g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;10:30:60&quot;). sshd(8) will refuse connection attempts with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> probability of &#8220;rate/100&#8221; (30%) if there are currently &#8220;start&#8221;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (10) unauthenticated connections. The probability increases
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> linearly and all connection attempts are refused if the number of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unauthenticated connections reaches &#8220;full&#8221; (60).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done. Also fail2ban is installed, which should give another layer
+</I>&gt;<i> of protection. I've used that for ~3 years, and in that time only
+</I>&gt;<i> seen 3-4 times when it had to work, but work it did :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, after adding the IMAP high port to shorewall and
+</I>&gt;<i> telling dovecot to listen to that port, I still can't get my
+</I>&gt;<i> Roaming mail profile to work. I'll have to explore more later
+</I>&gt;<i> today.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the help so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Just to confirm - the IMAP forwarding still isn't working, so I have to
+explore further on that but ssh is working.
+
+Anne
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+ <B>Phil</B>
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+<PRE>Thank you for reading this.
+
+Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+didn't help me.
+
+I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+
+VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+[0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+[0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+
+I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+didn't seem do anything either.
+
+The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I have seen this in the past. Cannot remember what the fix was.
+
+cvlc works for me.
+
+Poking around on the Ubuntu forums I saw this suggestion to get vlc
+going after a different problem:
+
+rm -rf ~/.config/vlc
+
+On my system that directory contains a qt4 configuration file.
+Restarting vlc might regenerate the contents and might help with the
+missing module problem - shooting in the dark here though.
+
+And, if you want to use skins, remember to install svlc.
+
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+<PRE>On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Further to the vlc question; these are the components installed on my
+system:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at belexeuli</A> ~]$ rpm -qa | grep vlc
+vlc-plugin-pulse-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+lib64vlc5-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+vlc-plugin-theora-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
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+vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+lib64vlccore5-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
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+&gt;<i> On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have seen this in the past. Cannot remember what the fix was.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cvlc works for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Poking around on the Ubuntu forums I saw this suggestion to get vlc
+</I>&gt;<i> going after a different problem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -rf ~/.config/vlc
+</I>
+I don't have such a file, I wonder if that's the problem?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On my system that directory contains a qt4 configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i> Restarting vlc might regenerate the contents and might help with the
+</I>&gt;<i> missing module problem - shooting in the dark here though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And, if you want to use skins, remember to install svlc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The name of the video flashes on the play window briefly but nothing
+else happens. There aren't any error messages.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+&gt;<i> On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Further to the vlc question; these are the components installed on my
+</I>&gt;<i> system:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at belexeuli</A> ~]$ rpm -qa | grep vlc
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-pulse-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64vlc5-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-theora-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-common-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> svlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64vlccore5-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have all of those files Len except the lib64 files. Probably because I
+have a 32 bit system.
+
+I continue poking around.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+&gt;<i> On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I noticed that older video clips that I had downloaded from youtube
+played but newer ones don't. So I reasoned that there must be a problem
+with the down-loader and not the player, which was the case.
+
+I have been using a Firefox plug-in called &quot;Download helper&quot; for several
+years without any problems. It still downloads but not correctly,
+apparently, because I can no longer convert files with ffmpeg.
+
+Anyway, I now use &quot;Flash video down loader&quot; which works perfectly.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+&gt;<i> On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have seen this in the past. Cannot remember what the fix was.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cvlc works for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Poking around on the Ubuntu forums I saw this suggestion to get vlc
+</I>&gt;<i> going after a different problem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -rf ~/.config/vlc
+</I>
+I do have that directory. I deleted it an ran vlc and svlc, neither
+worked, and the directory was recreated.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+
+I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house lan
+to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with ethernet !Gig.
+
+Any suggestions would help.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
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+ <B>Doug Lytle</B>
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+&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> to run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>
+I'm using Mageia 1 for my MythTV setup along with my mother's.
+
+Doug
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+&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> to run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+</I>&gt;<i> another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house
+</I>&gt;<i> lan to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with
+</I>&gt;<i> ethernet !Gig.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestions would help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I would say first, we make sure we can walk before we try and run, so,,,
+How much experience do you have getting your video capture/tv tuner card
+to work in your location?
+Once you get something like xawtv working and good TV signal, (and you
+know where the capture card is located , like /dev/video/video0 or
+/dev/vid1) then the setup for mythTV is not too bad, but like most
+hardware, it is important to be sure your capture card is comparable
+with your current Linux kernels .
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+i've proposed this feature for mageia 3:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To</A>
+
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504">https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504</A> (mockup)
+
+i would like to implement it, but i don't have technical skills to
+develop the plasmoid. is there anyone who wants to volunteer to develop
+it? i can write the documentation (together with doc team). thanks
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Le 02/09/2012 13:45, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> to run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+</I>&gt;<i> another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house
+</I>&gt;<i> lan to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with
+</I>&gt;<i> ethernet !Gig.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestions would help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Can't help with the video part, but I now testing &quot;mediatomb&quot; (installed
+under mga2 XC68-64) on the home server to stream audio and video and to
+share pictures; works fine on the private lan with upnp Win$ and mga
+clients (tested with vlc and other OS media player).
+
+JPB
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+On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:30:08 +0200
+Marcello &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've proposed this feature for mageia 3:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504">https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504</A> (mockup)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would like to implement it, but i don't have technical skills to
+</I>&gt;<i> develop the plasmoid. is there anyone who wants to volunteer to
+</I>&gt;<i> develop it? i can write the documentation (together with doc team).
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Why not simply implement this HOWTO as a shortcut on the desktop (an icon)
+which would link to an HTML page on the hard disk or on an Internet web site?
+Or am I missing something?
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>
+
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+ <B>Julia Jumeau</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't help me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have always been able to play flv files, with various players, until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2. For example, this is the error that VLC generates:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x841e920] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0x84692d8] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried cvlc and although it didn't generate an error message it also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't seem do anything either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;extension module&quot; seems like a likely place to start but I cannot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see anything useful in MCC. Can anyone help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Further to the vlc question; these are the components installed on my
+</I>&gt;<i> system:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at belexeuli</A> ~]$ rpm -qa | grep vlc
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-pulse-2.0.1-1.mga2.**tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64vlc5-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-theora-2.0.1-1.**mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-plugin-common-2.0.1-1.**mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> svlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64vlccore5-2.0.1-1.mga2.**tainted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You may have to delete your vlc files (being root, type urpme vlc) :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/URPMI">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/URPMI</A>
+
+ and add the vlc you can get from the tainted deposit
+
+friendly
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+On 02/09/12 07:08, Phil wrote:
+&gt;<i> Someone recently asked a question about this very topic but the
+</I>&gt;<i> answer didn't help me.
+</I>
+I think it was my question that you remember. Someone did confirm my
+feeling that VLC should play the file in question, but it failed.
+Eventually I found that the person who sent it to me (via a cloud
+upload) also couldn't play the file, even though his original was
+still fine, so maybe &quot;the cloud&quot; had rained on it :-)
+
+Other than making sure you have the tainted sources enabled so that it
+can get the required codecs, I can't suggest anything else, sorry.
+
+Anne
+- --
+Need KDE help? Try
+<A HREF="http://userbase.kde.org">http://userbase.kde.org</A> or
+<A HREF="http://forum.kde.org">http://forum.kde.org</A>
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Bonjour S&#233;bastien,
+
+Le 2012-09-02 12:09, Chopin S&#233;bastien a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to have Firefox 15 and Thunderbird 15 in update media ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#233;bastien
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, just download both software into their own folders and start them
+from their folders. If you do this, then I would suggest you remove the
+Mageia version off your machine through the MCC -- this will stop you
+from starting the Mageia version which will confuse you.
+
+HOWEVER, be warned that if you do this, you can sometimes run into
+dependency problems. This is why our great Mageia devs use the Firefox
+ESR and Thunderbird ESR versions (Extended Support Release)[1] which are
+official corporate versions of these packages. There are fewer upgrades
+but ALL security patches are sent in from Mozilla AND our Mageia devs
+make sure that all dependencies/bugs are covered/fixed properly.
+
+IMO, it is safer to use the Mageia version than the latest from Mozilla.
+
+NOTE: I am not a Mageia dev.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+[1]
+<A HREF="http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/">http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/</A>
+
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
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+
+Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2 cards
+in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f, ignoring
+device ...&quot; warning.
+
+I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>Op zondag 2 september 2012 07:45:55 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia to
+</I>&gt;<i> run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+</I>&gt;<i> another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house lan
+</I>&gt;<i> to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with ethernet !Gig.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestions would help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+i have a mediabox diskless that i'm booting via PXE and uses nfs mount over
+gigabit networking, the files to be played are also on nfs mounts and thus are
+played over networking as well...
+
+i've been able to play a full HD (real 1080p non interlaced!) complete movie
+without any glitch whatsoever (i only have one such movie)
+
+so, i've installed the basesystem and task-kde4 as if it were a chroot in that
+dir where the nfs mount point points to.
+
+then i made the PXE work to boot the system. then i just have autologin to a
+complete KDE, with the bar hidden, put a clock on the background and put in
+four big buttons (plasma-launchbutton) with some icons on it and linked to 4
+apps: DVD + video + music + tv
+
+then i bought a wiimote and bluetooth receiver, and i use the wiimote to point
+and click, apparently no sensor bar is needed, if you have any type of light
+source, candle, lightbulb or spots, it all works.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 2 september 2012 15:17:18 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2 cards
+</I>&gt;<i> in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f, ignoring
+</I>&gt;<i> device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+should be possible. maybe the driver has a glitch, or maybe something odd
+happened due to pci slots:
+
+2options:
+ - swap cards, use other slots, check mobo which pci slots are shared, and try
+to put on different ones.
+ - perhaps the tuner options aren't the same, so the kernel modules need to be
+set per module alias, and not globally. not 100% sure how to do this, but it
+should be possible, i had a similar issue with 2 bonding interfaces which
+needed different parameters set.
+
+good luck.
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>
+What type of cards do you have? And, to get the best help out of
+MythTV, you should join the mythtv users mailing list:
+
+Lots of MythTV users willing to help:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</A>
+
+
+Doug
+
+
+--
+Ben Franklin quote:
+
+&quot;Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;
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+&gt;<i> Hi Marcello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:30:08 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i've proposed this feature for mageia 3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/NewbieHow-To</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504">https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504</A> (mockup)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i would like to implement it, but i don't have technical skills to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> develop the plasmoid. is there anyone who wants to volunteer to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> develop it? i can write the documentation (together with doc team).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not simply implement this HOWTO as a shortcut on the desktop (an icon)
+</I>&gt;<i> which would link to an HTML page on the hard disk or on an Internet web site?
+</I>&gt;<i> Or am I missing something?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hi shlomi!
+
+simply because my user target would never open that link :) instead, if
+a short guide is opened by default and it's simply and useful, probably
+they read it and browse other infos...
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+For convenience I've been in the habit of mounting /home on my server
+box in fstab, but I'm not having any success here.
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+I'[ve used MCC on the server to set up the nfs shares. The lines look
+logical. I then turned to the client, again using MCC, to mount the
+share, but got &quot;Mounting partition 192.168.0.40:/home in directory
+/mnt/server_home failed.&quot;
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+The mount point is correct. What has gone wrong?
+
+Anne
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+On 03/09/12 11:10, Anne Wilson wrote:
+&gt;<i> For convenience I've been in the habit of mounting /home on my
+</I>&gt;<i> server box in fstab, but I'm not having any success here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'[ve used MCC on the server to set up the nfs shares. The lines
+</I>&gt;<i> look logical. I then turned to the client, again using MCC, to
+</I>&gt;<i> mount the share, but got &quot;Mounting partition 192.168.0.40:/home in
+</I>&gt;<i> directory /mnt/server_home failed.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The mount point is correct. What has gone wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>
+&quot;mount -a&quot; gives
+
+mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
+
+??
+
+Both systems are using standard M2. not Cauldron.
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+&gt;<i> mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
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+Please show the output of your NFS line for your mount:
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+On 03/09/12 12:12, Doug Lytle wrote:
+&gt;<i> Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supported
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please show the output of your NFS line for your mount:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cat /etc/fstab
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>192.168.0.40:/home /mnt/server_home nfs
+rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nosuid,soft 0 0
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+Anne
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+&gt;<i> 92.168.0.40:/home /mnt/server_home nfs
+</I>&gt;<i> rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nosuid,soft 0 0
+</I>
+I mount my music from NFS and use autofs to do it. The options I use
+below (I'm running on a gigabit network):
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+Music
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+You may want to add the proto=tcp or nfsvers=3 or both to your fstab
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+</I>&gt;<i> You may want to add the proto=tcp or nfsvers=3 or both to your fstab
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2 cards
+</I>&gt;<i> in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f, ignoring
+</I>&gt;<i> device ...&quot; warning.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe firmware needs to be installed? I know my old Air2PC card won't
+work at all unless I install the firmware file, which, last I knew,
+isn't available on the Mageia repositories. I used a DVB firmware
+package downloaded from the Mandriva/PLF repositories.
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+On 03/09/12 12:36, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 09/03/2012 07:25 AM, Doug Lytle wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You may want to add the proto=tcp or nfsvers=3 or both to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fstab
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>Didn't help.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6541">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6541</A>
+</I>
+Yes, I'd already read that - which is why I mentioned that both
+systems are not using Cauldron. I wasn't much wiser at the end, though.
+
+I'm not sure whether to add to that bug report, or whether I would
+just confuse the issue. The only possibly useful thing I could add is
+that if Mageia 2 is using nfs3 on the server, that seems to be where
+the fault is, as the nfs4 mount to my old server (Scientific Linux)
+worked from this laptop (M2, still) and to my NAS device it still does.
+
+Anne
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+&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 3 september 2012 12:40:14 schreef ed:
+&gt;<i> On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>
+SSD
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+Hi,
+
+Documentation team is adding missing files to the installer help and
+writing documentation for MCC.
+
+However, before those files can be checked for English language errors
+and before they can be translated, they need to be proofread from a
+technical point of view. Is the information correct and complete enough?
+
+At the moment, the doc team members who could do that, are too busy
+with other things. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
+
+For installer help, currently those two files need to be checked:
+
+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/configureX_card_list.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/configureX_card_list.html</A>
+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/configureX_monitor.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/configureX_monitor.html</A>
+
+For MCC help, if you click on the link below and look at the table:
+all the pages that are marked &quot;WRITTEN&quot; in the &quot;Status&quot; column, and
+still have *no* in the &quot;Approved (technically)&quot; column, need to be
+checked. The links to the pages are in the last column.
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Calenco_Draktools#List_of_needed_help_texts">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Calenco_Draktools#List_of_needed_help_texts</A>
+
+If you'd like to help, please contact Documentation team:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_team#How_to_contact.2Fjoin_the_team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_team#How_to_contact.2Fjoin_the_team</A>
+
+However, if you don't have much time and only want to make one or two
+remarks about a help file, feel free to do that in a reply to this mail.
+
+Thanks :)
+Marja
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Thanks for the help and tips!
+
+Le 2012-09-02 15:17, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2 cards
+</I>&gt;<i> in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f, ignoring
+</I>&gt;<i> device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+It took a little juggling around of our TV cards in the house and I
+finally got 2 cards to cooperate and now the warning message has gone away.
+
+We use &quot;Powerview&quot; tv cards. You can find details on our forums here:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=23&amp;t=2880.">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=23&amp;t=2880.</A>
+
+Funny thing, even when I put in the same tv-cards some of them gave me
+problems. Weird. I have a Brooktree tv-card and it looks like it takes
+away two PCI slots -- one for audio and another for video.
+
+Anyway, 2 of our Powerview tv-cards match and I'll try it out with these.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>Hi Ed and Al13N (I keep forgetting your name -- doh!),
+
+Le 2012-09-03 14:19, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 3 september 2012 12:40:14 schreef ed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> SSD
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My youngest son was telling me that I should go for SSD, but I bought a
+terabyte drive instead. The computer guy said that it should work better
+than an external drive (which I would have prefered -- my wife could
+then move around the house better with the drive -- its a little easier
+to understand than with the NFS thingy). Yes, SSD would have been neat
+though!
+
+Raid --- hmmmm, my board doesn't have raid -- ASRock 775i65G. Not sure
+how to implement this, or if even worth it. The computer is just a box I
+had sitting not being used.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
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+Le 2012-09-02 07:45, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia to
+</I>&gt;<i> run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+</I>&gt;<i> another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house lan
+</I>&gt;<i> to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with ethernet !Gig.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestions would help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for the great feedback and sharing, nice ideas. I'm going ahead
+with MythTV and I'll see how it ends up. Should be fun.
+
+Doug -- I'll join the MythTV list too! Thanks for the suggestion.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
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+<PRE>Le 2012-09-02 15:39, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 2 september 2012 07:45:55 schreef Marc Par&#233;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My wife would like a PVR. I was wondering if anyone was using Mageia to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> run as a PVR? I was planning on using MythTV.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a spare box that I am planning to use with a terabyte drive +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another 160gig drive. I am hoping to stream programs over our house lan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to another 4 Mageia computer boxes. Our house is wired with ethernet !Gig.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any suggestions would help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i have a mediabox diskless that i'm booting via PXE and uses nfs mount over
+</I>&gt;<i> gigabit networking, the files to be played are also on nfs mounts and thus are
+</I>&gt;<i> played over networking as well...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've been able to play a full HD (real 1080p non interlaced!) complete movie
+</I>&gt;<i> without any glitch whatsoever (i only have one such movie)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, i've installed the basesystem and task-kde4 as if it were a chroot in that
+</I>&gt;<i> dir where the nfs mount point points to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then i made the PXE work to boot the system. then i just have autologin to a
+</I>&gt;<i> complete KDE, with the bar hidden, put a clock on the background and put in
+</I>&gt;<i> four big buttons (plasma-launchbutton) with some icons on it and linked to 4
+</I>&gt;<i> apps: DVD + video + music + tv
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then i bought a wiimote and bluetooth receiver, and i use the wiimote to point
+</I>&gt;<i> and click, apparently no sensor bar is needed, if you have any type of light
+</I>&gt;<i> source, candle, lightbulb or spots, it all works.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hmmm, I am trying to keep costs down, we can purchase a PVR box for
+approximately $250Cdn. But, I could always try some of these nifty
+things later. I like the wiimote and blootooth idea.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi Ed and Al13N (I keep forgetting your name -- doh!),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2012-09-03 14:19, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op maandag 3 september 2012 12:40:14 schreef ed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SSD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My youngest son was telling me that I should go for SSD, but I bought
+</I>&gt;<i> a terabyte drive instead. The computer guy said that it should work
+</I>&gt;<i> better than an external drive (which I would have prefered -- my wife
+</I>&gt;<i> could then move around the house better with the drive -- its a little
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to understand than with the NFS thingy). Yes, SSD would have
+</I>&gt;<i> been neat though!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Raid --- hmmmm, my board doesn't have raid -- ASRock 775i65G. Not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> how to implement this, or if even worth it. The computer is just a box
+</I>&gt;<i> I had sitting not being used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>it's not disk read write speeds, although that is part of it, it is
+northbridge to cpu bottlenecks.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 3 september 2012 20:43:33 schreef ed:
+&gt;<i> On 09/03/2012 06:08 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Ed and Al13N (I keep forgetting your name -- doh!),
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 2012-09-03 14:19, AL13N a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op maandag 3 september 2012 12:40:14 schreef ed:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; SSD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My youngest son was telling me that I should go for SSD, but I bought
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a terabyte drive instead. The computer guy said that it should work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; better than an external drive (which I would have prefered -- my wife
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could then move around the house better with the drive -- its a little
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; easier to understand than with the NFS thingy). Yes, SSD would have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; been neat though!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Raid --- hmmmm, my board doesn't have raid -- ASRock 775i65G. Not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how to implement this, or if even worth it. The computer is just a box
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I had sitting not being used.
+</I>
+don't use onboard raid or fakeraid cards... even the software raid is more
+efficient... (these chips use regular CPU for raid anyway)
+
+only hardware raid (read $$$) will be able to help you.
+
+external disk will not help at all, unless it's a small nas so as to offload the
+IO.
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+
+&gt;<i> On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>
+You already have the hardware. Try it and see.
+
+I have 3 digital tuners and an ordinary hard disk. It seems to cope.
+
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+&gt;<i> ed wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/02/2012 03:17 PM, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am mounting a Mageia PVR system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to mount 2-3-4 TV cards on the same box? I've put 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cards in and I am getting a &quot;PCI device ... unknown header type 7f,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ignoring device ...&quot; warning.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was hoping to PVR 2-3 programmes at the same time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you won't have the hard drive I/O bandwidth, unless you go with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dedicated raid card and a ton of memory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You already have the hardware. Try it and see.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have 3 digital tuners and an ordinary hard disk. It seems to cope.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A normal hdd should have no problem with recording atleast 4 normal
+streams or 2 HD streams at the same time.
+
+After all, that is what enduser tv-boxes do...
+
+But depending on the pvr cards it can get cpu bound if the cards
+do do all their work in software with no hw assistance...
+
+But the only way to know is to read specs &amp; test :)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A normal hdd should have no problem with recording atleast 4 normal
+</I>&gt;<i> streams or 2 HD streams at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After all, that is what enduser tv-boxes do...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But depending on the pvr cards it can get cpu bound if the cards
+</I>&gt;<i> do do all their work in software with no hw assistance...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But the only way to know is to read specs &amp; test :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Using DVB-T in the UK most SD programs are between 2.5 -&gt; 4.5 mbit a second. I
+use a sheevaplug with 3 DVB-T USB dongles which can record up to 6 programs
+from 3 separate muxes at a time. This backend device runs MythTV with the UPNP
+module. It writes to an external disk using e-sata.
+
+Next to the TV I have a Dune HD101 connected to powerline adapter. This sees
+the MythTV box as a DLNA server. Various laptops in the house can run MythTV
+frontend to also view programs/setup recordings.
+
+The same setup could possibly be duplicated with two Raspberry PIs.
+
+Deri
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+As you may have seen it, Alpha 1 is available for tests:
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/09/07/try-mageia-3-alpha-1/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/09/07/try-mageia-3-alpha-1/</A>
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+Unionfs and tmb is looking for a solution (either fix it or switch to
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+if [ &quot;$UID&quot; -ge 500 ] &amp;&amp; ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/games ; then
+ PATH=$PATH:/usr/games
+fi
+but /usr/games does not shoe up in my path when i log on to kde, kmail says:
+/bin/sh: fortune: command not found
+and konsole tells me:
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$ echo $PATH
+/home/bascule/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/lib64/qt4/bin
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$
+
+now obviously i can add /usr/games the same way i added /home/bascule/bin but
+i thought that /etc/profile was system wide stuff so whats going wrong here?
+
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+ <B>Shlomi Fish</B>
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+On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:14:11 +0100
+bascule &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">asura at theexcession.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> after installing mod-fortune the following is added to /etc/profile/
+</I>&gt;<i> if [ &quot;$UID&quot; -ge 500 ] &amp;&amp; ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/games ; then
+</I>&gt;<i> PATH=$PATH:/usr/games
+</I>&gt;<i> fi
+</I>&gt;<i> but /usr/games does not shoe up in my path when i log on to kde,
+</I>&gt;<i> kmail says: /bin/sh: fortune: command not found
+</I>&gt;<i> and konsole tells me:
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$ echo $PATH
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/bascule/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/lib64/qt4/bin
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> now obviously i can add /usr/games the same way i
+</I>&gt;<i> added /home/bascule/bin but i thought that /etc/profile was system
+</I>&gt;<i> wide stuff so whats going wrong here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This seems to be fine here on both Mageia 2 x86-64 and Mageia Cauldron x86-64.
+
+What happens when you ssh into your user account at localhost? Is /usr/games
+getting set properly then?
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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+<PRE>Hmm, something changed and I can no longer play java applets! My java
+was just updated to java-1.7.0-openjdk, but, I am not sure if this is
+when I lost my java plugin; it may have happened a little while ago
+before the update.
+
+How do I go about installing a java plugin on my FF (Mageia2, 64bit box).
+
+BTW ... I also tried installing the Oracle java but it just seemed
+impossible to install it. Weird! I used to be able to just run the
+.rpm's and install with no problems. I also read on the Oracle site,
+that the 64bit version of java will not run java applets and they
+recommend installing the 32bit version along with the 64bit.
+
+The openjdk version should at least past the Oracle test page here:
+<A HREF="http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp">http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp</A>
+
+Any suggestions?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
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+ <B>Charles A Edwards</B>
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+Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hmm, something changed and I can no longer play java applets! My java
+</I>&gt;<i> was just updated to java-1.7.0-openjdk, but, I am not sure if this is
+</I>&gt;<i> when I lost my java plugin; it may have happened a little while ago
+</I>&gt;<i> before the update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How do I go about installing a java plugin on my FF (Mageia2, 64bit
+</I>&gt;<i> box).
+</I>
+
+For openjdk you need the icedtea-web rpm.
+
+
+ Charles
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+<PRE>On 09/09/2012 06:09 AM, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:53:29 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, something changed and I can no longer play java applets! My java
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was just updated to java-1.7.0-openjdk, but, I am not sure if this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when I lost my java plugin; it may have happened a little while ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> before the update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How do I go about installing a java plugin on my FF (Mageia2, 64bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> box).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For openjdk you need the icedtea-web rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Charles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And the icedtea-web plugin from the Mageia 2 repositories works with
+openjdk 1.6.x, not 1.7.x. I'm told by one of the Mageia developers that
+because Mageia's icedtea-web uses that openjdk, it is not susceptible to
+the zero-day bug plaguing Oracle's jre 1.7.x versions. Both openjdk
+versions have been installed on my 32-bit system.
+
+Icedtea-web 1.3 was released a few days ago. It may find its way into
+Mageia 2 if there are important bug and/or security fixes, but my guess
+is we will have to wait for Mageia 3.
+
+TJ
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] GNOME Cauldron: Timezone vs Online Accounts?">mdhillca at gmail.com
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+and Time Settings have me in London. When I launch g-c-c in a teminal,
+starting Date &amp; Time gives this:
+
+(gnome-control-center:2859): datetime-cc-panel-WARNING **: Timezone ''
+is unhandled, setting Europe/London as default
+
+As a possible side effect (reported as bugs in a couple of other
+distros), my GNOME Online Accounts let me connect to Google, but the
+password expires immediately. If I can persuade GNOME to save my
+timezone, will my Google account stay connected?
+
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Thanks Charles and TJ,
+
+That did the trick.
+
+Le 2012-09-09 08:52, TJ a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 09/09/2012 06:09 AM, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:53:29 -0400
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, something changed and I can no longer play java applets! My java
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was just updated to java-1.7.0-openjdk, but, I am not sure if this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when I lost my java plugin; it may have happened a little while ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> before the update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How do I go about installing a java plugin on my FF (Mageia2, 64bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> box).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For openjdk you need the icedtea-web rpm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Charles
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And the icedtea-web plugin from the Mageia 2 repositories works with
+</I>&gt;<i> openjdk 1.6.x, not 1.7.x. I'm told by one of the Mageia developers that
+</I>&gt;<i> because Mageia's icedtea-web uses that openjdk, it is not susceptible to
+</I>&gt;<i> the zero-day bug plaguing Oracle's jre 1.7.x versions. Both openjdk
+</I>&gt;<i> versions have been installed on my 32-bit system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Icedtea-web 1.3 was released a few days ago. It may find its way into
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 if there are important bug and/or security fixes, but my guess
+</I>&gt;<i> is we will have to wait for Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have to admit that I am not a big fan of Oracle java and its nice that
+there is an alternative.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE update, I
+had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have had to
+delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the last one has not
+been updated yet (my son just finished his summer holidays and was
+breaking in his Windows partition with his new install of WOW); now that
+summer vacation is over and WOW time is reduced, he will have to update.
+I was hoping he would try playing WOW on his Mageia partition.
+
+Has anyone else had any problems?
+
+Some of the problems that I have had:
+
+-- general slow down in speed
+-- Klipper would disappear at login
+-- the Lan connection Icon would disappear
+-- some of the KDE preferences would somehow go back to their default state
+-- log off widget in the taskbar (lower-right) would quit responding
+-- re-start option (Start button ...) would also stop responding
+
+The problems happened intermittently. The KDE bug assistant did come up
+on one of my 2 laptops but I did not have sufficient information to
+submit the bug report, just general stuff like above.
+
+I've deleted the .kde4 file and they all run fine now.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+
+Mageia 3 alpha installs quite happily on it, but
+it won't boot to a GUI. It gives error messages
+about nouveau, even though the modules has been
+deleted and XFdrake run to try &quot;nv&quot; then &quot;vesa&quot;.
+
+BTW there is also an EDID check sum error from
+the monitor which could be confusing things.
+
+There is a repeat of 8 lines of hex data and
+[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1
+
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+On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:22:53 -0400
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE update,
+</I>
+Which KDE update?
+
+&gt;<i> I had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have had
+</I>&gt;<i> to delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the last one
+</I>&gt;<i> has not been updated yet (my son just finished his summer holidays
+</I>&gt;<i> and was breaking in his Windows partition with his new install of
+</I>&gt;<i> WOW);
+</I>
+Just a note - NEVER (!!) delete ~/.kde4/ as this will lose all your settings.
+You can instead move it away using the &quot;mv&quot; command:
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv</A>
+
+I'm just mentioning it so people won't be encouraged to do so (and you shouldn't do
+so in the future).
+
+&gt;<i> now that summer vacation is over and WOW time is reduced, he
+</I>&gt;<i> will have to update. I was hoping he would try playing WOW on his
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia partition.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone else had any problems?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of the problems that I have had:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- general slow down in speed
+</I>&gt;<i> -- Klipper would disappear at login
+</I>&gt;<i> -- the Lan connection Icon would disappear
+</I>&gt;<i> -- some of the KDE preferences would somehow go back to their default
+</I>&gt;<i> state
+</I>&gt;<i> -- log off widget in the taskbar (lower-right) would quit
+</I>&gt;<i> responding
+</I>&gt;<i> -- re-start option (Start button ...) would also stop
+</I>&gt;<i> responding
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I didn't encounter any of these problems either on Mageia 2 x86-64 or Mageia Cauldron
+x86-64. If you can reproduce them somehow, you can file bug reports on <A HREF="http://bugs.kde.org/">http://bugs.kde.org/</A> .
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+&gt;<i> The problems happened intermittently. The KDE bug assistant did come
+</I>&gt;<i> up on one of my 2 laptops but I did not have sufficient information
+</I>&gt;<i> to submit the bug report, just general stuff like above.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've deleted the .kde4 file and they all run fine now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+ &#8212; an Israeli Linuxer.
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+&gt;<i>My test computer has an old nVidia card in it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Mageia 3 alpha installs quite happily on it, but
+</I>&gt;<i>it won't boot to a GUI. It gives error messages
+</I>&gt;<i>about nouveau, even though the modules has been
+</I>&gt;<i>deleted and XFdrake run to try &quot;nv&quot; then &quot;vesa&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>BTW there is also an EDID check sum error from
+</I>&gt;<i>the monitor which could be confusing things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>There is a repeat of 8 lines of hex data and
+</I>&gt;<i>[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>--
+</I>&gt;<i>blind Pete
+</I>&gt;<i>Sig goes here...
+</I>
+I only solved this after modding my init-rd:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-12-nouveau-nvidia-driver-solution-771248/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-12-nouveau-nvidia-driver-solution-771248/</A>
+
+Later I realized I could force uninstall all the rpms that had to do with nouveau even though urpme wouldn't let me do it.
+
+I think I still had to mod initrd even though the rpms with the stuff were gone, but I'm not 100% sure.
+
+I could not compile a real nVidia for old TNT2 cards and got no sympathy from the nvidia forums. I used nv but its opengl was slow and I found a cheap newer card somewhere.
+
+My experience was with 2.
+
+Kbulgrien
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> My test computer has an old nVidia card in it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 3 alpha installs quite happily on it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it won't boot to a GUI. It gives error messages
+</I>&gt;<i> about nouveau, even though the modules has been
+</I>&gt;<i> deleted and XFdrake run to try &quot;nv&quot; then &quot;vesa&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW there is also an EDID check sum error from
+</I>&gt;<i> the monitor which could be confusing things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a repeat of 8 lines of hex data and
+</I>&gt;<i> [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1
+</I>
+i donno how nouveau fares, but for nvidia there was a noEDID option
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+I think you have to add nokmsboot to your Grub's menu.lst kernel line. At least I recall that message being displayed at boot.
+
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+
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+Ben Franklin quote:
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Shlomi Fish &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:22:53 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE update,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which KDE update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have had
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the last one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; has not been updated yet (my son just finished his summer holidays
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and was breaking in his Windows partition with his new install of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; WOW);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a note - NEVER (!!) delete ~/.kde4/ as this will lose all your
+</I>&gt;<i> settings.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can instead move it away using the &quot;mv&quot; command:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm just mentioning it so people won't be encouraged to do so (and you
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't do
+</I>&gt;<i> so in the future).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now that summer vacation is over and WOW time is reduced, he
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will have to update. I was hoping he would try playing WOW on his
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia partition.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Has anyone else had any problems?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some of the problems that I have had:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -- general slow down in speed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -- Klipper would disappear at login
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -- the Lan connection Icon would disappear
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -- some of the KDE preferences would somehow go back to their default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; state
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That happened to my wife's laptop.
+The background image got reset to a default option, and the picture she had
+originally set did not even appear as an option to change to. (Right click
+options on the desktop).
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; -- log off widget in the taskbar (lower-right) would quit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; responding
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -- re-start option (Start button ...) would also stop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; responding
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't encounter any of these problems either on Mageia 2 x86-64 or
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> x86-64. If you can reproduce them somehow, you can file bug reports on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bugs.kde.org/">http://bugs.kde.org/</A> .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The problems happened intermittently. The KDE bug assistant did come
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; up on one of my 2 laptops but I did not have sufficient information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to submit the bug report, just general stuff like above.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've deleted the .kde4 file and they all run fine now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> My Public Domain Photos - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/shlomif/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/shlomif/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;d do Windows-- , but this may result in an integer underflow.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#8212; an Israeli Linuxer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/reply">http://shlom.in/reply</A> .
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+ <B>Jim Whitby</B>
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+<PRE>Isn't it time to add ipv6 to all the network tools?
+
+I realize *most* hosts are not using ipv6, yet. There are a lot of us
+who are though and more coming all the time.
+
+Most of the top web sites have it available. Comcast is making it
+available. Verzion will be this fall.
+
+Having the tools ready and debugged would be a big help to those who
+want/need to make use of it.
+
+An example:
+net_monitor ignores anything ipv6 ( will not show up even in connections ).
+
+All the underlying info is there, ipv6 functions well at the net layer.
+It's the tools that are lacking.
+
+The closest I know of to working is net configure in mcc. It has a
+checkbox for ipv6toipv4, but this is almost never used.
+ipv6inipv4, yes ( tunneling ).
+
+So, what do you guys an gals think?
+Should we be prepared for the future?
+
+Jim
+
+--
+Never argue with a fool -- people might not be able to tell the difference.
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64
+3.3.8-server-2.mga2 x86_64
+----------------------
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+ <B>bascule</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday 09 Sep 2012 11:43:44 Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; now obviously i can add /usr/games the same way i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; added /home/bascule/bin but i thought that /etc/profile was system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wide stuff so whats going wrong here?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This seems to be fine here on both Mageia 2 x86-64 and Mageia Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> x86-64.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What happens when you ssh into your user account at localhost? Is /usr/games
+</I>&gt;<i> getting set properly then?
+</I>
+hi,
+yes ssh'ing - is that verb? - into my user account from a local console does
+show /usr/games, but only because i've added /usr/games to my users's
+.bash_profile, with that there kmail also recognises 'fortune' as present, it
+still doesn't show up in the path as echoed in konsole.
+when i remove the reference in .bash profile, then /usr/games won't show up in
+any circumstance and kmail fails to find 'fortune'
+
+bascule
+--
+&quot;And remember, my friends, future events such as these will affect you in the
+future.....&quot;
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>I just got a note from a friend on Mageia2 and she says:
+
+&quot;In updating, I receive the following message:
+
+Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+
+- lib64mesagl1-8.0.4-2.1.mga2.tainted.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+lib64txc-dxtn) &quot;
+
+I get the same. I told here that there will most likely be another
+update later to fix the problem.
+
+Do other people have the same results from the update?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
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+&gt;<i> I just got a note from a friend on Mageia2 and she says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;In updating, I receive the following message:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - lib64mesagl1-8.0.4-2.1.mga2.tainted.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64txc-dxtn) &quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I get the same. I told here that there will most likely be another
+</I>&gt;<i> update later to fix the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do other people have the same results from the update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It was a missing linking of a package.
+The issue is already resolved on primary mirror, so it should soon start
+showing up on all mirrors...
+
+
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+<PRE>Le 2012-09-10 06:04, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:22:53 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE update,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which KDE update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the last one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has not been updated yet (my son just finished his summer holidays
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and was breaking in his Windows partition with his new install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WOW);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a note - NEVER (!!) delete ~/.kde4/ as this will lose all your settings.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can instead move it away using the &quot;mv&quot; command:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm just mentioning it so people won't be encouraged to do so (and you shouldn't do
+</I>&gt;<i> so in the future).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This would be great if you could give a little more detail for people
+(like me) who would not know what to mv. I did not know where the
+problem was coming from and it was just easier (time-wise) to reset the
+desktop and KDE soft.
+
+Can you give me an example of what I would do in these circumstances?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
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+ <B>Shlomi Fish</B>
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+On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:45:39 -0400
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 2012-09-10 06:04, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:22:53 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; update,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Which KDE update?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; had to delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; last one has not been updated yet (my son just finished his summer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; holidays and was breaking in his Windows partition with his new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; install of WOW);
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a note - NEVER (!!) delete ~/.kde4/ as this will lose all your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; settings. You can instead move it away using the &quot;mv&quot; command:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm just mentioning it so people won't be encouraged to do so (and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you shouldn't do so in the future).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would be great if you could give a little more detail for people
+</I>&gt;<i> (like me) who would not know what to mv. I did not know where the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem was coming from and it was just easier (time-wise) to reset
+</I>&gt;<i> the desktop and KDE soft.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you give me an example of what I would do in these circumstances?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You can do something like:
+
+mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4-old-&quot;$(date '+%s')&quot;
+
+This will move the ~/.kde4 directory away (and as far as KDE is concerned, its
+settings will be reset), but you can restore it later, or use it for reference
+for older customisations.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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+<PRE>Hi Shlomi,
+
+Le 2012-09-10 16:59, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would be great if you could give a little more detail for people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (like me) who would not know what to mv. I did not know where the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> problem was coming from and it was just easier (time-wise) to reset
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the desktop and KDE soft.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you give me an example of what I would do in these circumstances?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can do something like:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4-old-&quot;$(date '+%s')&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This will move the ~/.kde4 directory away (and as far as KDE is concerned, its
+</I>&gt;<i> settings will be reset), but you can restore it later, or use it for reference
+</I>&gt;<i> for older customisations.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah! I usually open Dolphin and rename it to .kdeOLD as I will usually
+want to move my wallpapers from the share file.
+
+But yes, I should have mentioned this and thank you for pointing this
+out. Always best to have your original copy to compare.
+
+Thanks!
+
+Marc
+
+
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+
+Thanks! And a big thanks to the devs and all involved for the quick work!
+
+Marc
+
+;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
+
+Le 2012-09-10 16:44, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 10.09.2012 23:41, Marc Par&#233; skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just got a note from a friend on Mageia2 and she says:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;In updating, I receive the following message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - lib64mesagl1-8.0.4-2.1.mga2.tainted.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64txc-dxtn) &quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I get the same. I told here that there will most likely be another
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update later to fix the problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do other people have the same results from the update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was a missing linking of a package.
+</I>&gt;<i> The issue is already resolved on primary mirror, so it should soon start
+</I>&gt;<i> showing up on all mirrors...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
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+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My test computer has an old nVidia card in it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you have to add nokmsboot to your Grub's menu.lst kernel line. At
+</I>&gt;<i> least I recall that message being displayed at boot.
+</I>
+That would seem to be the problem.
+
+It is now happily running the VESA drive. Now was this something
+that should have been auto detected and autoconfigured at
+installation time or configuration time? It is worth a bug
+report.
+
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+<PRE>On 10/09/2012 21:45, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 2012-09-10 06:04, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:22:53 -0400
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am just wondering if it is just me, but, ever since the KDE update,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which KDE update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I had problems with my desktops and laptops (5 in total). I have had
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to delete .kde4 (Home folder) on 4 of these boxes, and the last one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> has not been updated yet (my son just finished his summer holidays
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and was breaking in his Windows partition with his new install of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WOW);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a note - NEVER (!!) delete ~/.kde4/ as this will lose all your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> settings.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can instead move it away using the &quot;mv&quot; command:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm just mentioning it so people won't be encouraged to do so (and you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shouldn't do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so in the future).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would be great if you could give a little more detail for people
+</I>&gt;<i> (like me) who would not know what to mv. I did not know where the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem was coming from and it was just easier (time-wise) to reset the
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop and KDE soft.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you give me an example of what I would do in these circumstances?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4-old
+
+When you restart KDE you will have lost all your settings, but you can
+then restore from the old one, in bite-size pieces, until you hit a
+problem. At that point, delete the bit you just restored (rollback) and
+you should be fine.
+
+Anne
+Anne
+
+
+--
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Anne,
+
+Le 2012-09-11 04:28, Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4-old
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When you restart KDE you will have lost all your settings, but you can
+</I>&gt;<i> then restore from the old one, in bite-size pieces, until you hit a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem. At that point, delete the bit you just restored (rollback) and
+</I>&gt;<i> you should be fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks! I am curious as to how long this process would take as opposed
+to re-starting from scratch. I'll give it a try next time to see how
+long the process would take.
+
+I am looking at this from the point of a user having to go through this.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+Hi everyone,
+
+
+In MCC --&gt; Software Management --&gt; Configure media sources for install
+and update
+so in this screen:
+<A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/drakrpm-edit-media.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/drakrpm-edit-media.html</A>
+
+in the menubar --&gt; options
+you can choose *parallel*
+
+It was originally created to enable installing packages on several
+systems in a network at the same time.
+
+Does anyone use this option?
+
+If so, does it *only* work with identical systems (so with the same
+hardware and software), or does it work as long as the systems have
+the same architecture and the same Mageia version?
+
+Cheers,
+marja
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ <I>Mon Sep 17 03:42:13 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I have a problem, in that whenever I want to use the USB Serial port at
+/dev/ttyUSB0 I have to log in as root.
+
+I wonder if the way to solve this is by adding a rule
+/dev/ttyUSB0 root root 777 in Mcc &gt; Security &gt; Settings &gt; Permissions or is
+there another way ?
+
+I have tried to change the permissions in /dev but they always revert to 660
+after a time.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Sed nescio quo modo nihil tam absurde dici potest
+ quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
+ -- Marcus Tullius Cicero
+
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+On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I have a problem, in that whenever I want to use the USB Serial port at
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/ttyUSB0 I have to log in as root.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder if the way to solve this is by adding a rule
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/ttyUSB0 root root 777 in Mcc &gt; Security &gt; Settings &gt; Permissions or is
+</I>&gt;<i> there another way ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have tried to change the permissions in /dev but they always revert to
+</I>&gt;<i> 660
+</I>&gt;<i> after a time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The devices in /dev/ are recreated with each boot. This explains why they
+loose the permissions. udevd is responsible for creating them at boot time,
+following some rules. You need to modify those rules. If I remember
+correctly, they are located in /etc/udev/rules.d/.
+
+HTH,
+Alejandro.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sed nescio quo modo nihil tam absurde dici potest
+</I>&gt;<i> quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
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+ <B>Deri James</B>
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+&gt;<i> I have a problem, in that whenever I want to use the USB Serial port at
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/ttyUSB0 I have to log in as root.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder if the way to solve this is by adding a rule
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/ttyUSB0 root root 777 in Mcc &gt; Security &gt; Settings &gt; Permissions or is
+</I>&gt;<i> there another way ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have tried to change the permissions in /dev but they always revert to 660
+</I>&gt;<i> after a time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>
+Isn't there a group (dialout?) you can make yourself a member of which owns
+the group rights to the device? Remember to logout/in after adding yourself to
+the group.
+
+Cheers
+
+Deri
+
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+On 16/09/2012 19:47, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In MCC --&gt; Software Management --&gt; Configure media sources for
+</I>&gt;<i> install and update so in this screen:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/drakrpm-edit-media.html">http://docteam.mageia.nl/en/MCC/content/drakrpm-edit-media.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the menubar --&gt; options you can choose *parallel*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was originally created to enable installing packages on several
+</I>&gt;<i> systems in a network at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does anyone use this option?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, does it *only* work with identical systems (so with the
+</I>&gt;<i> same hardware and software), or does it work as long as the systems
+</I>&gt;<i> have the same architecture and the same Mageia version?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If you don't use this option, but you do install in parallel, what do
+you use instead? Does your alternative only work on identical systems?
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+<PRE>On Monday 17 Sep 2012 03:08 my mailbox was graced by a message from Alejandro
+L&#243;pez who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; I have a problem, in that whenever I want to use the USB Serial port at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /dev/ttyUSB0 I have to log in as root.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I wonder if the way to solve this is by adding a rule
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /dev/ttyUSB0 root root 777 in Mcc &gt; Security &gt; Settings &gt; Permissions or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is there another way ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have tried to change the permissions in /dev but they always revert to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 660 after a time.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> The devices in dev are recreated with each boot. This explains why they
+</I>&gt;<i> loose the permissions. udevd is responsible for creating them at boot time,
+</I>&gt;<i> following some rules. You need to modify those rules. If I remember
+</I>&gt;<i> correctly, they are located in /etc/udev/rules.d/.
+</I>
+I think I finally found a simpler solution:
+/dev/ttyUSB0 (like all the /dev/ttyS*) belongs to the group dialout.
+
+So I just added my user to that group (&quot;usermod -a -G dialout user&quot; as root)
+and logged in again.
+
+And I can now download my GPS data as user !
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ I'll defend to the death your right to say that,
+ but I never said I'd listen to it!
+ -- Tom Galloway with apologies to Voltaire
+
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>On 09/17/2012 07:48 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think I finally found a simpler solution:
+</I>
+You should enter a bug report for this, as there is probably more going
+on here than simple Unix permissions.
+
+When dinosaurs roamed the earth, Unix systems were multi-user, and it
+was expected that the sysadmin would use the groups to parcel out device
+permissions. As Linux distros have moved more and more towards
+single-user systems, permission mechanisms have changed.
+
+/dev devices are now created dynamically (as already pointed out)
+according to rules supplied by the packages you install. The theory is
+that you only end up creating /dev nodes for devices you will actually
+use, rather than the cast of thousands that used to be created
+statically for every possible need.
+
+And access to common devices like CD drives and the audio system is (I
+believe) done dynamically now as well, by packages like polkit and
+systemd, which take their configuration from places other than /etc/group.
+
+As a USB tty is not a common device, it may well have fallen through the
+cracks of these new mechanisms, and should probably be addressed there.
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+&gt;<i> If you don't use this option, but you do install in parallel, what do
+</I>&gt;<i> you use instead? Does your alternative only work on identical systems?
+</I>
+I use a single command line for parrallel upgrades, that can be used for parallel package installation.
+===
+ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp1</A> -t &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp2</A> -t &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp3</A> -t &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot;
+===
+If you have disabled root login, add sudo just before the urpmi command. (btw, I use ssh keys for auth and enforce &quot;without-password&quot;.)
+Just replace &quot;--auto-update&quot; with &quot;name of package&quot; for installation.
+I use a similar line for managing updates on three Debian servers.
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+I installed Mageia 2 on 2 new systems where no previous installation was
+available. This means it wasn't an upgrade, but a complete install from the
+DVD. While doing this, I fall in some problems:
+
+1) I seleced brtfs for a partition and the installer told me it was going
+to install the package btrfs-progs, but failed to do so and I couldn't use
+btrfs on tat partition. What I remark here is that it tried but failed. So
+either btrfs should not be present in the installer, or the btrfs-progs
+package present in the DVD (I may be missing other possibilities)
+
+
+2) While partitioning the disks, I accidentally pressed &quot;format&quot; instal of
+the button I wanted to really press. I wanted to press the &quot;back&quot; button
+but there wasn't any. Once at this point, the only possible action is to
+format the partition. Luckilly it was a brand new disk so I lost nothing.
+
+
+3) This is the most annoying problem I have. Although I configured none of
+the local acounts for autologin, there is an account the automatically
+logs-in after booting the machines. I see the desktop during a fraction of
+a seconds an then an error message that says (in spanisk so my translation
+back to english might no the exact): &quot;Something went wrong. A error
+happened and the system cannot be recovered. Close the session and try
+again.&quot; This happens with every boot on both machines.
+
+
+Should I open bugs? Ideas on how to correct the 3rd problem?
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday 17 Sep 2012 08:44 my mailbox was graced by a message from Frank
+Griffin who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; I think I finally found a simpler solution:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> You should enter a bug report for this, as there is probably more going
+</I>&gt;<i> on here than simple Unix permissions.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> When dinosaurs roamed the earth, Unix systems were multi-user, and it
+</I>&gt;<i> was expected that the sysadmin would use the groups to parcel out device
+</I>&gt;<i> permissions. As Linux distros have moved more and more towards
+</I>&gt;<i> single-user systems, permission mechanisms have changed.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> /dev devices are now created dynamically (as already pointed out)
+</I>&gt;<i> according to rules supplied by the packages you install. The theory is
+</I>&gt;<i> that you only end up creating /dev nodes for devices you will actually
+</I>&gt;<i> use, rather than the cast of thousands that used to be created
+</I>&gt;<i> statically for every possible need.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> And access to common devices like CD drives and the audio system is (I
+</I>&gt;<i> believe) done dynamically now as well, by packages like polkit and
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd, which take their configuration from places other than /etc/group.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> As a USB tty is not a common device, it may well have fallen through the
+</I>&gt;<i> cracks of these new mechanisms, and should probably be addressed there.
+</I>
+I beg to disagree with the last, given that the group attribution for
+/dev/ttyUSB0 (for the USB serial port adapter) is the same as that for the
+common or garden serial ports at /dev/ttyS*
+All of those belong to the dialout group, probably leftover from the days when
+the serial ports conected to the modem (?).
+
+Filled the bug report.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Deux &#233;tions, et n'avions qu'un coeur.
+ -- Fran&#231;ois Villon
+
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+On 17/09/2012 15:12, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Monday 17 September 2012 13:51, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you don't use this option, but you do install in parallel,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what do you use instead? Does your alternative only work on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> identical systems?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I use a single command line for parrallel upgrades, that can be
+</I>&gt;<i> used for parallel package installation. === ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp1</A> -t
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp2</A> -t
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp3</A> -t
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; === If you have disabled root
+</I>&gt;<i> login, add sudo just before the urpmi command. (btw, I use ssh keys
+</I>&gt;<i> for auth and enforce &quot;without-password&quot;.) Just replace
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;--auto-update&quot; with &quot;name of package&quot; for installation. I use a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar line for managing updates on three Debian servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah, nice Johnny, your command line can even be used across different
+Mageia versions and arches :)
+
+Now it looks odd that I ever thought the MCC/drakrpm-edit-media
+parallel option would only work on identical systems ;)
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday 17 September 2012 16:22, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> your command line can even be used across different Mageia versions and arches :)
+</I>
+If one have many systems, one can use a shellscript with one ssh command on each line.
+
+The advantage of using urpmi's &quot;--parallel&quot; option is that the &quot;--parallel&quot; option only downloads one file that are distributed to the nodes,
+whereas my command will download three copies, one on each machine. So unless one have a local mirror or use an urpmi proxy, my command example will download three copies of each updated package over the internet connection.
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 17/09/2012 17:15, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 17/09/2012 15:12, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I use a single command line for parrallel upgrades, that can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be used for parallel package installation. === ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp1</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -t &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp2</A> -t
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; &amp;&amp; ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at comp3</A> -t
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-update&quot; === If you have disabled root
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> login, add sudo just before the urpmi command. (btw, I use ssh
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> keys for auth and enforce &quot;without-password&quot;.) Just replace
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;--auto-update&quot; with &quot;name of package&quot; for installation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, nice Johnny, your command line can even be used across
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different Mageia versions and arches :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now it looks odd that I ever thought the MCC/drakrpm-edit-media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parallel option would only work on identical systems ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think urpmi-parallel is not the same. It's using ka-tools or
+</I>&gt;<i> taktuk to do parallel transfert of the package files on the
+</I>&gt;<i> servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if it is still working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks, Nicolas.
+
+I remember having seen a choice between ka-run and ssh, when I looked
+at the tool.
+
+ka-tools has been obsoleted after Mdv 2007, or am I wrong about that?
+
+On 17/09/2012 16:43, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> If one have many systems, one can use a shellscript with one ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> command on each line.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The advantage of using urpmi's &quot;--parallel&quot; option is that the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;--parallel&quot; option only downloads one file that are distributed
+</I>&gt;<i> to the nodes, whereas my command will download three copies, one on
+</I>&gt;<i> each machine. So unless one have a local mirror or use an urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> proxy, my command example will download three copies of each
+</I>&gt;<i> updated package over the internet connection.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks, Johnny :)
+
+It would be nice, in case we're going to have an educational DVD
+somewhere in the future, to know whether this MCC option would be an
+appropriate tool for people in charge of some school computers to
+maintain them.
+
+So there is this tool, and there is urpmi --parallel and
+drakrpm-edit-media --parallel=alias,host (be in parallel mode, use
+&quot;alias&quot; group, use &quot;host&quot; machine to show needed deps)
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+<PRE>Il 17/09/2012 15:13, Alejandro L&#243;pez ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I installed Mageia 2 on 2 new systems where no previous installation was
+</I>&gt;<i> available. This means it wasn't an upgrade, but a complete install from
+</I>&gt;<i> the DVD. While doing this, I fall in some problems:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) I seleced brtfs for a partition and the installer told me it was
+</I>&gt;<i> going to install the package btrfs-progs, but failed to do so and I
+</I>&gt;<i> couldn't use btrfs on tat partition. What I remark here is that it tried
+</I>&gt;<i> but failed. So either btrfs should not be present in the installer, or
+</I>&gt;<i> the btrfs-progs package present in the DVD (I may be missing other
+</I>&gt;<i> possibilities)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) While partitioning the disks, I accidentally pressed &quot;format&quot; instal
+</I>&gt;<i> of the button I wanted to really press. I wanted to press the &quot;back&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> button but there wasn't any. Once at this point, the only possible
+</I>&gt;<i> action is to format the partition. Luckilly it was a brand new disk so I
+</I>&gt;<i> lost nothing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) This is the most annoying problem I have. Although I configured none
+</I>&gt;<i> of the local acounts for autologin, there is an account the
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically logs-in after booting the machines. I see the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> during a fraction of a seconds an then an error message that says (in
+</I>&gt;<i> spanisk so my translation back to english might no the exact):
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Something went wrong. A error happened and the system cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> recovered. Close the session and try again.&quot; This happens with every
+</I>&gt;<i> boot on both machines.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should I open bugs? Ideas on how to correct the 3rd problem?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Alejandro,
+
+yes, you should open the bug reports here:
+
+<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+
+you must use the account created in identity.mageia. for the 3d problem
+open mageia in failsafe mode, and start drakconf, you should find an
+entry to choose for autologin (i can't remember its name right now).
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<A HREF="http://olduse.net/">http://olduse.net/</A>
+
+Someone have setup a nntp/usenet server where they publish 30 -thirty- year old usenet articles in realtime, as they appeared on usenet.
+The FAQ says that if you post an article on the usenet server, it will not show up for 30 years.
+
+I thought this was fun, and perhaps usefull for those who want to experience a little history, as it happened.
+So, next year or so they'll be publishing Stallmans article on launching Free software.
+
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>I notice that some applications, when one goes to File =&gt; Open, and gets the
+navigation window, a single clicks opens a directory (Libreoffice, Kwrite,
+Gwenview, Kaffeine,SMPlayer, Sigil, etc.); in other applications (Archive
+Manager, Gimp, LibreCAD) I have to double-click on a directory to open it.
+
+This in spite of having chosen &quot;Single-click to open files and folders&quot; in
+Tools =&gt; System Tools =&gt; System Settings =&gt; Input Devices =&gt; Mouse =&gt; General.
+
+Is there a way to ensure all applications behave in the same way, and respect
+the choice of the user ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ The two most common elements in the Universe
+ are hydrogen and stupidity.
+ -- Harlan Ellison
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+592279cd7389536cdd113d2ab99ff1583695fbf2c439350bf2c42852d1c956b3
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Sep 19 18:29:53 CEST 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> I notice that some applications, when one goes to File =&gt; Open, and gets
+</I>&gt;<i> the navigation window, a single clicks opens a directory (Libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;<i> Kwrite, Gwenview, Kaffeine,SMPlayer, Sigil, etc.); in other applications
+</I>&gt;<i> (Archive Manager, Gimp, LibreCAD) I have to double-click on a directory
+</I>&gt;<i> to open it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This in spite of having chosen &quot;Single-click to open files and folders&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> in Tools =&gt; System Tools =&gt; System Settings =&gt; Input Devices =&gt; Mouse =&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> General.
+</I>
+But that setting is only for KDE (and maybe other qt apps).
+
+&gt;<i> Is there a way to ensure all applications behave in the same way, and
+</I>&gt;<i> respect the choice of the user ?
+</I>
+You will need to configure the other toolkits that your applications are
+built on.
+That means at least gtk+, but I don't know where it can be configured.
+
+Cheers
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+<PRE>I'm trying to get PPTP running so that I can connect to my workplace.
+I've installed pptp-linux, networkmanager-pptp and knetworkmanager-pptp.
+I can't seem to get it configured properly.
+
+Has anyone gotten PPTP to work properly? It's pretty much a vanilla
+configuration, just user, domain, and password, along with requiring
+encryption (I think mppe).
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+Thanks,
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+red floyd
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+I want to ask the community for advice upon transfering my KMail contents from a box running KDE3 to one running KDE4.
+I have a large ~/Mail folder with 765M of mail that I wan't to transfer from an old box still running mdv2008.1, and have KDE 3.5.9 and KMail 1.9.9. I have delayed this transfer mainly because the current computer perfoms the task quite nicely and works just as I want it to. But it's getting old, so I need to do this at some point anyway.
+
+I need to transfer all settings, including several accounts, identies, filtering rules and the address book.
+What do I need to transfer in order to accomplish this?
+And what, if anything do I need to reconfigure after the transfer in order to make KMail on the receving system to recognice all settings?
+
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+&gt;<i> I'm trying to get PPTP running so that I can connect to my workplace.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've installed pptp-linux, networkmanager-pptp and knetworkmanager-pptp.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't seem to get it configured properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone gotten PPTP to work properly? It's pretty much a vanilla
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration, just user, domain, and password, along with requiring
+</I>&gt;<i> encryption (I think mppe).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> red floyd
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+IIRC this is due to patent problems and probably needs a tainted build
+of ppp.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2894">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2894</A>
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+Claire
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+
+On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:49:04 +0100
+&quot;Johnny A. Solbu&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to ask the community for advice upon transfering my KMail
+</I>&gt;<i> contents from a box running KDE3 to one running KDE4. I have a large
+</I>&gt;<i> ~/Mail folder with 765M of mail that I wan't to transfer from an old
+</I>&gt;<i> box still running mdv2008.1, and have KDE 3.5.9 and KMail 1.9.9.
+</I>
+Wow, that's old. Are there still updates for it?
+
+&gt;<i> I
+</I>&gt;<i> have delayed this transfer mainly because the current computer
+</I>&gt;<i> perfoms the task quite nicely and works just as I want it to. But
+</I>&gt;<i> it's getting old, so I need to do this at some point anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need to transfer all settings, including several accounts,
+</I>&gt;<i> identies, filtering rules and the address book. What do I need to
+</I>&gt;<i> transfer in order to accomplish this? And what, if anything do I need
+</I>&gt;<i> to reconfigure after the transfer in order to make KMail on the
+</I>&gt;<i> receving system to recognice all settings?
+</I>
+Well, I recall that while early KMail released on KDE 4 worked mostly fine,
+KMail 2 was far too unreliable and unstable. Maybe it is better now.
+As a result, I have switched to Claws-mail, using these script:
+
+<A HREF="https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/src/115463239f0d/shlomif-convert-away-from-kmail">https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/src/115463239f0d/shlomif-convert-away-from-kmail</A>
+
+I didn't have a good way to import the filters, and created them again semi-manually,
+as I ran into a place where I needed to filter messages.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to ask the community for advice upon transfering my KMail contents
+</I>&gt;<i> from a box running KDE3 to one running KDE4.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a large ~/Mail folder with 765M of mail that I wan't to transfer
+</I>&gt;<i> from an old box still running mdv2008.1, and have KDE 3.5.9 and KMail
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.9.9. I have delayed this transfer mainly because the current computer
+</I>&gt;<i> perfoms the task quite nicely and works just as I want it to. But it's
+</I>&gt;<i> getting old, so I need to do this at some point anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need to transfer all settings, including several accounts, identies,
+</I>&gt;<i> filtering rules and the address book.
+</I>&gt;<i> What do I need to transfer in order to accomplish this?
+</I>&gt;<i> And what, if anything do I need to reconfigure after the transfer in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to make KMail on the receving system to recognice all settings?
+</I>
+i have no idea, but i think the jump is too large, i would just do a
+remote imap connection or something and copy the emails over manually /
+folder.
+
+i would export address book and reimport
+
+and i would do all the other stuff (identities, filtering rules, accounts)
+manually
+
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+&gt;<i> I'm trying to get PPTP running so that I can connect to my
+</I>&gt;<i> workplace. I've installed pptp-linux, networkmanager-pptp and
+</I>&gt;<i> knetworkmanager-pptp.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't seem to get it configured properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone gotten PPTP to work properly? It's pretty much a vanilla
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration, just user, domain, and password, along with requiring
+</I>&gt;<i> encryption (I think mppe).
+</I>Yes, but after several hours of trial.
+
+I first tried kvpnc, which used to work well with Mandriva 2010. But it
+now generates a wrong pptp command which fails to do its job. On Mageia
+1, I succeed to install the Mandriva 2010 version but this failed on
+Mageia 2.
+
+Then I tried networkmanager as you did, and never got something to work.
+It is wise to remove it as it may create problems even when you think
+you don't use it.
+
+Then I used the &quot;pptp-command&quot; tool (part of pptp-linux package) and I
+got the connection. It is a command line tool to be run as root. I just
+have to adjust /etc/resolv.conf once connected as the added name servers
+are at the end, where they should come first.
+
+I hope this will help you.
+
+Bernard
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+<PRE>torsdagen den 20 september 2012 06.49.04 skrev Johnny A. Solbu:
+&gt;<i> I want to ask the community for advice upon transfering my KMail contents
+</I>&gt;<i> from a box running KDE3 to one running KDE4.
+</I>
+I would try to see If Kmail can digest it itself.
+
+Copy the kmail folder tree from the old to the new computer,
+then start kmail and see if you are lucky :)
+
+Today the mail folder is at ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/
+It is probably similar on your elder system
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+&gt;<i> Hi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to ask the community for advice upon transfering my KMail contents
+</I>&gt;<i> from a box running KDE3 to one running KDE4. I have a large ~/Mail folder
+</I>&gt;<i> with 765M of mail that I wan't to transfer from an old box still running
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv2008.1, and have KDE 3.5.9 and KMail 1.9.9. I have delayed this
+</I>&gt;<i> transfer mainly because the current computer perfoms the task quite nicely
+</I>&gt;<i> and works just as I want it to. But it's getting old, so I need to do this
+</I>&gt;<i> at some point anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need to transfer all settings, including several accounts, identies,
+</I>&gt;<i> filtering rules and the address book. What do I need to transfer in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to accomplish this?
+</I>&gt;<i> And what, if anything do I need to reconfigure after the transfer in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to make KMail on the receving system to recognice all settings?
+</I>
+Johnny ,
+
+I think you can export email folders, filters and address book from KDE3-Kmail to
+KDE4-Kmail or kmail2
+
+Are you using Mageia 1 or Mageia 2?
+
+In Mageia 1 the folder of Kmail is in home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail.
+
+In Mageia 2 the folder of Kmail2 is in home/user/.local/share/local-mail/
+
+
+I do not remember if these options KDE3 are all correct, because I do not have
+the kde3 to verify.
+
+
+Export email:
+In KDE3, you can to export the kmail folders with the emails. To export, you
+click on Kmail folder, and right-mouse button, select the &quot;Archive Folders&quot;,
+which will create a compressed archive (zip, tar, etc.)
+
+Export filter
+In KDE3, the Kmail filters can be exported. In toolbar, in &quot;settings&quot; and in &quot;Set
+filters&quot;, the file of filters can be exported
+
+Export kdressebook
+In KDE3, kdressbook can be exported. In toolbar, in &quot;Tools&quot;, in &quot;address book&quot;,
+will open a new windos. In toolbar, go to File, export &quot;kdressbook&quot;.
+
+
+Import email folders to KDE4:
+In Mageia 1 with Kmail or In Mageia 2 with Kmail2 (KDE4) these &quot;Archive Folders&quot;
+(zip, tar, etc) can be imported, In toolbar, &quot;file&quot;, &quot;import messages&quot;, and
+select &quot;import a archiving KMaill&quot;
+
+Import filters to kmail or kmail2 in KDE4:
+In toolbar, in &quot;settings&quot; and in &quot;Set filters&quot;, the file of filters can be
+imported.
+
+Import kadressboof to kmail or kmail2 in KDE4:
+ In toolbar, in &quot;Tools&quot;, in &quot;address book&quot;, will open a new windos. In toolbar,
+go to File, import &quot;kdressbook&quot;.
+
+
+Macxi
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+<PRE>On Thursday 20 September 2012 11:19, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> an old box still running mdv2008.1, and have KDE 3.5.9 and KMail 1.9.9.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, that's old. Are there still updates for it?
+</I>
+Not for a few years. :-)=
+The only updates are the few packages I package myself.
+
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+<PRE>On Thursday 20 September 2012 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I need to transfer all settings, including several accounts, identies, filtering rules and the address book.
+</I>
+With the tips I received from you, and a little poking on Google, I've managed transfer all mails and the addressbok.
+i've also managed to export and imported the filters.
+
+Now I need to figure out how to import the 9 accounts (pop3 accounts mainly) and 8 smtp transport settings, and I'm all set.
+
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+&gt;<i> Now I need to figure out how to import the 9 accounts (pop3 accounts mainly) and 8 smtp transport settings, and I'm all set.
+</I>
+Of cource I had to forget one item. I also need to import the identities.
+If I manage that, Then I hope I'm done. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> If I manage that, Then I hope I'm done. :-)=
+</I>
+And I've done it! :-)=
+I'll still be reading mail from this old system. Old habbit, and the display card supports a higher resolution. but it works. \o/
+
+First things first. I did the import on mdv2010.2, but I suspect the procedure will work in mageia also.
+
+
+When poking Google, I stumbled accross this official KDE guide:
+<A HREF="http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Migration">http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Migration</A>
+
+I did some steps not in that guide, by trial and error.
+
+The mail folder in KDE3 was ~/Mail/. it was enough to copy the content of the folder into ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail/ (rsync -av <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">user at kde3-host</A>:Mail/ ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/)
+
+Simply copying kmailrc from a kde3 system to kde4 did not work.
+So I removed everything that was not an account, transport or identity setting, and saved it in a new file, which I then added to ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc.
+Next I copied the transport settings into ~/.kde4/share/config/mailtransports.
+I also copied emaildefaults and emailidentities into the config folder. I removed the [$version] section from the emailidentities file.
+
+The filters was imported using the export and import feature.
+
+That's basically what I did.
+When I launched KMail afterwards, it all worked. All folders where exactly as on the old system.
+
+Now I have to figure out why KMail doesn't see my addressbook, and i'm all set. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> The mail folder in KDE3 was ~/Mail/. it was enough to copy the content of the folder into ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail/
+</I>
+&gt;<i> (rsync -av <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">user at kde3-host</A>:Mail/ ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/)
+</I>
+Gaah. Stupid typo. The correct rsync command should of cource be this one:
+rsync -av <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">user at kde3-host</A>:Mail/ ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail/
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+
+Any idea why ?
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+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
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+ <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B>
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+&gt;<i> I see we have mp3splt in M1, but not the brother-program mp3wrap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea why ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>Make a package request for it on the QA?
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+&gt;<i> I see we have mp3splt &#160;in M1, but not the brother-program mp3wrap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea why ?
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+ <B>Sean Mac Suibhne 7</B>
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+<PRE>I cannot get Mageia 2 Live disk to load.
+
+I can get the cursor to show but not the content.
+
+If I add xdriver=vesa to the kernal options when booting the screen
+freezes after the time setting screen.
+
+I have a Toshiba Satellite SM30-304 which I believe uses intel chips.
+
+Any ideas?
+
+Se&#225;n
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+&gt;<i> I cannot get Mageia 2 Live disk to load.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can get the cursor to show but not the content.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I add xdriver=vesa to the kernal options when booting the screen
+</I>&gt;<i> freezes after the time setting screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a Toshiba Satellite SM30-304 which I believe uses intel chips.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Se&#225;n
+</I>
+Hi Se&#225;n
+
+You might have the same problem some others have had with intel laptops,
+both old and new.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6077">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6077</A>
+
+Try adding acpi=off too. There are a few other options on that bug you
+could try if that works for you. It's a far from ideal solution, but it
+is a solution.
+
+You could also add your details to that bug if you are suffering from
+the same thing.
+
+Thanks
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> All I need to downgrade a package in Mageia is rpm and a previous version
+</I>&gt;<i> of the package?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mike
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Mike
+
+You can use rpm -e --nodeps &lt;package&gt; to remove a single one without
+removing things which depend on it. You can then install the older
+version in the usual way.
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+Claire
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 22/09/12 15:03, Michael Hill wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; All I need to downgrade a package in Mageia is rpm and a previous
+</I>version
+&gt;<i> &gt; of the package?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mike
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Mike
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use rpm -e --nodeps &lt;package&gt; to remove a single one without
+</I>&gt;<i> removing things which depend on it. You can then install the older
+</I>&gt;<i> version in the usual way.
+</I>
+Thanks, Claire. To have the previous version I'd have needed to have
+activated it in my urpmi settings, wouldn't I? Is there someplace I can
+look for an earlier version of a package?
+
+Thanks,
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sep 22, 2012 12:00 PM, &quot;Claire Robinson&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 22/09/12 15:03, Michael Hill wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All I need to downgrade a package in Mageia is rpm and a previous
+</I>&gt;<i> version
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of the package?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mike
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Mike
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can use rpm -e --nodeps &lt;package&gt; to remove a single one without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> removing things which depend on it. You can then install the older
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version in the usual way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Claire. To have the previous version I'd have needed to have
+</I>&gt;<i> activated it in my urpmi settings, wouldn't I? Is there someplace I can
+</I>&gt;<i> look for an earlier version of a package?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mike
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You can use urpmi --media Release &lt;package&gt; to install it from the
+Release medias. You can also do similar with Updates.
+
+Sometimes there will be two or more versions in Updates though, so if
+you need a specific version you can download it from the mirror manually
+with a browser or wget and install with urpmi path/to/&lt;package&gt;.
+
+For example urpmi ./&lt;package&gt;
+
+Claire
+
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+ <B>Phil</B>
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+<PRE>Thank you for reading this.
+
+Over the years I've attempted to create a bootable external USB drive,
+but without success. Recently I tried unetbootin which is supposed to
+download and install a Linux distribution of choice and then create a
+bootable disc. It all seems to work well except my laptop won't boot
+from the newly created bootable external drive.
+
+I've occasionally forgotten to unplug my e-book reader and the next time
+that I start the computer I'm informed that &quot;this is not a bootable
+disc.&quot; So, the computer does detect whether an external device is
+bootable or not.
+
+My question is, how can I determine whether the external drive is indeed
+bootable or not? Is there a bit that's set somewhere if it's bootable?
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+ <B>John Bowden</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive">led43john at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 26 Sep 2012 13:02:56 Phil wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Over the years I've attempted to create a bootable external USB drive,
+</I>&gt;<i> but without success. Recently I tried unetbootin which is supposed to
+</I>&gt;<i> download and install a Linux distribution of choice and then create a
+</I>&gt;<i> bootable disc. It all seems to work well except my laptop won't boot
+</I>&gt;<i> from the newly created bootable external drive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've occasionally forgotten to unplug my e-book reader and the next time
+</I>&gt;<i> that I start the computer I'm informed that &quot;this is not a bootable
+</I>&gt;<i> disc.&quot; So, the computer does detect whether an external device is
+</I>&gt;<i> bootable or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My question is, how can I determine whether the external drive is indeed
+</I>&gt;<i> bootable or not? Is there a bit that's set somewhere if it's bootable?
+</I>
+As far as I know unenetbooting does not work with our iso's, its a long time
+erm undocumented feature ;) you can use the DD command, there is even a DD for
+widoz.
+Regards John (Led43_xxx)
+--
+Registered Linux user number 414240
+
+Guy Faulks the only person to enter the Parliament with honest intentions and
+he was going to blow them up !
+
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 26 Sep 2012 06:32 my mailbox was graced by a message from John
+Bowden who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> As far as I know unenetbooting does not work with our iso's, its a long
+</I>&gt;<i> time erm undocumented feature ;) you can use the DD command, there is even
+</I>&gt;<i> a DD for widoz.
+</I>
+I have had good results, sorry but I forget whether it was with Tuxboot-Linux
+or Mandriva-seed.sh. Only thing I am certain of is that one of the two worked
+for me.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant.
+ -- Cornelius Tacitus
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 26 Sep 2012 07:11 my mailbox was graced by a message from Renaud
+(Ron) Olgiati who wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have had good results, sorry but I forget whether it was with
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuxboot-Linux or Mandriva-seed.sh. Only thing I am certain of is that one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the two worked for me.
+</I>
+It might even have been both ;-3)
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ No one can have a higher opinion of him than I have,
+ and I think he's a dirty little beast.
+ -- W.S. Gilbert
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>I want to venture into unknown territory, that of video edition.
+
+I have downloaded a 1930 documental on the Paraguay-Bolivia war, which came
+out with the images formatted 16:9.
+
+What would be the tool of choice to reformat it to the original 4:3 ?
+
+TIA,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ No one can have a higher opinion of him than I have,
+ and I think he's a dirty little beast.
+ -- W.S. Gilbert
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+<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78HKHC7KGLY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78HKHC7KGLY</A>
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+to add Greek subtitles:
+<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58Li92FB8Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58Li92FB8Y</A>
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+&gt;<i> I want to venture into unknown territory, that of video edition.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have downloaded a 1930 documental on the Paraguay-Bolivia war, which came
+</I>&gt;<i> out with the images formatted 16:9.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What would be the tool of choice to reformat it to the original 4:3 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>
+There are a few, including probably ffmpeg on the command line.
+I would try avidemux though. If you ever used Virtualdub in windows, it
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+On 26/09/2012 13:43, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+&gt;<i> i'd like to inform that i used this video:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78HKHC7KGLY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78HKHC7KGLY</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to add Greek subtitles: <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58Li92FB8Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58Li92FB8Y</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That looks very nice, Dimitrios.
+
+Thanks :)
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+&gt;<i> On 26/09/12 12:28, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I want to venture into unknown territory, that of video edition.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have downloaded a 1930 documental on the Paraguay-Bolivia war, which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; came out with the images formatted 16:9.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What would be the tool of choice to reformat it to the original 4:3 ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are a few, including probably ffmpeg on the command line.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would try avidemux though. If you ever used Virtualdub in windows, it
+</I>&gt;<i> is quite similar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>
+
+Kdenlive rendering in several format, including 4:3
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+<A HREF="http://www.kdenlive.org/">http://www.kdenlive.org/</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>Thank you for reading this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Over the years I've attempted to create a bootable external USB drive,
+</I>&gt;<i>but without success. Recently I tried unetbootin which is supposed to
+</I>&gt;<i>download and install a Linux distribution of choice and then create a
+</I>&gt;<i>bootable disc. It all seems to work well except my laptop won't boot
+</I>&gt;<i>from the newly created bootable external drive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I've occasionally forgotten to unplug my e-book reader and the next time
+</I>&gt;<i>that I start the computer I'm informed that &quot;this is not a bootable
+</I>&gt;<i>disc.&quot; So, the computer does detect whether an external device is
+</I>&gt;<i>bootable or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>My question is, how can I determine whether the external drive is indeed
+</I>&gt;<i>bootable or not? Is there a bit that's set somewhere if it's bootable?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>--
+</I>&gt;<i>Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>Phil
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Have never had a problem doing this. CDs and DVDs I have burned from iso files have always been bootable.
+I would say check you bios if you were not getting that bootable disc message. So I think the place to look at is setting up
+writing the disk or USB stick. I did have one friend who had this problem. When I checked his boot disk it had one file on
+it, with the extension of iso. But check you bios just to be sure.
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+<PRE>On 26/09/12 20:32, John Bowden wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I know unenetbooting does not work with our iso's, its a long time
+</I>&gt;<i> erm undocumented feature ;) you can use the DD command, there is even a DD for
+</I>&gt;<i> widoz.
+</I>
+Thanks everyone for your replies,
+
+I think there might be a hardware issue somewhere. The laptop detects
+USB sticks (and e-book readers) and reports that the device isn't
+bootable however the USB hard drive is simply ignored. So there must be
+some subtle difference between the mechanical drive and a USB stick.
+
+The Internet is awash with tutorials on how to create a bootable
+external drive but, in my case, unless the external drive is mounted
+it's not detected and the BIOS is set to boot from an external drive.
+
+I'm reluctant to try my drive on someone else's computer because if
+anything goes wrong, even six years later, it will be my fault.
+
+I don't think Tuxboot or DD would offer a solution.
+
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+Regards,
+Phil
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> Em qua 26 set 2012, &#224;s 13:07:08, Claire Robinson escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 26/09/12 12:28, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I want to venture into unknown territory, that of video edition.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have downloaded a 1930 documental on the Paraguay-Bolivia war, which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; came out with the images formatted 16:9.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What would be the tool of choice to reformat it to the original 4:3 ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Ron.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There are a few, including probably ffmpeg on the command line.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would try avidemux though. If you ever used Virtualdub in windows, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is quite similar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Claire
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kdenlive rendering in several format, including 4:3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.kdenlive.org/">http://www.kdenlive.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's what I use for editing video, even though it has a tendency to crash
+X on embedded Intel graphics cards. At least, on the two laptops I've tried
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+ <B>John Bowden</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 27 Sep 2012 09:21:10 Phil wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 26/09/12 20:32, John Bowden wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As far as I know unenetbooting does not work with our iso's, its a long
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time erm undocumented feature ;) you can use the DD command, there is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; even a DD for widoz.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks everyone for your replies,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think there might be a hardware issue somewhere. The laptop detects
+</I>&gt;<i> USB sticks (and e-book readers) and reports that the device isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> bootable however the USB hard drive is simply ignored. So there must be
+</I>&gt;<i> some subtle difference between the mechanical drive and a USB stick.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Internet is awash with tutorials on how to create a bootable
+</I>&gt;<i> external drive but, in my case, unless the external drive is mounted
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not detected and the BIOS is set to boot from an external drive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm reluctant to try my drive on someone else's computer because if
+</I>&gt;<i> anything goes wrong, even six years later, it will be my fault.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think Tuxboot or DD would offer a solution.
+</I>
+You might find the ext hd is a bit slow at initalizing and spinning up to
+speed, a usb drive does not have to spin up disks. Try powering on the laptop
+and if it does not see the ext hd do a soft reboot (ALT CTRL + DEL).
+Also make sure the bios is set to boot ext usb first before looking at other
+boot devices. If you have the ext hd plugged in and powered up while in the
+bios screen it might offer you the ext hd IF you are very lucky!
+Regards John (Led43_???)
+--
+Registered Linux user number 414240
+
+Guy Faulks the only person to enter the Parliament with honest intentions and
+he was going to blow them up !
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+
+O &quot;Rei dos Caletos&quot; tem &quot;Home delivery&quot; so I order plenty of chicken.
+By end of the week I am sure I wil be able to walk to the supermarket,
+thank god I still have the crutches (moletas).
+Stefan comes to Recife 3. de Outubro and stays for 3 weeks.
+By then I must be totally OK. (Mais ou menos ;-) )
+
+Ingi
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: Bootable external drive (John Bowden)
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+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:55:47 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: John Bowden&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">led43john at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">3008724.hAEDJ5nreB at john.pistonbroke</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thursday 27 Sep 2012 09:21:10 Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/09/12 20:32, John Bowden wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I know unenetbooting does not work with our iso's, its a long
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time erm undocumented feature ;) you can use the DD command, there is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even a DD for widoz.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks everyone for your replies,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think there might be a hardware issue somewhere. The laptop detects
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> USB sticks (and e-book readers) and reports that the device isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bootable however the USB hard drive is simply ignored. So there must be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some subtle difference between the mechanical drive and a USB stick.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Internet is awash with tutorials on how to create a bootable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> external drive but, in my case, unless the external drive is mounted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not detected and the BIOS is set to boot from an external drive.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm reluctant to try my drive on someone else's computer because if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anything goes wrong, even six years later, it will be my fault.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't think Tuxboot or DD would offer a solution.
+</I>&gt;<i> You might find the ext hd is a bit slow at initalizing and spinning up to
+</I>&gt;<i> speed, a usb drive does not have to spin up disks. Try powering on the laptop
+</I>&gt;<i> and if it does not see the ext hd do a soft reboot (ALT CTRL + DEL).
+</I>&gt;<i> Also make sure the bios is set to boot ext usb first before looking at other
+</I>&gt;<i> boot devices. If you have the ext hd plugged in and powered up while in the
+</I>&gt;<i> bios screen it might offer you the ext hd IF you are very lucky!
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards John (Led43_???)
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+<PRE>On 27/09/12 20:55, John Bowden wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You might find the ext hd is a bit slow at initalizing and spinning up to
+</I>&gt;<i> speed, a usb drive does not have to spin up disks. Try powering on the laptop
+</I>&gt;<i> and if it does not see the ext hd do a soft reboot (ALT CTRL + DEL).
+</I>&gt;<i> Also make sure the bios is set to boot ext usb first before looking at other
+</I>&gt;<i> boot devices. If you have the ext hd plugged in and powered up while in the
+</I>&gt;<i> bios screen it might offer you the ext hd IF you are very lucky!
+</I>
+Thanks again John,
+
+I've solved the external USB hard drive boot problem and it's
+embarrassing to admit that it was a simple setting in the BIOS.
+
+The hard drive contained a live distribution but saved data is not
+persistent between boots and only a small section of the disc is
+available anyway.
+
+So I partition the external hard drive and downloaded the iso file
+again, now the blasted DVD drive has died completely (it was always
+flaky from new) so I'm thwarted again; maybe an external USB DVD drive
+would be the answer?
+
+Not to be outwitted by a dumb machine, I created a bootable USB memory
+stick, again with unetbootin. This time a message is displayed that
+reads something to the effect that the external device should be removed
+to continue the boot process.
+
+There aren't any more hidden BIOS settings, that I can see, so it might
+be the end of the line for this project.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+ <B>Phil</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved">phil_lor at bigpond.com
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+ <I>Sat Sep 29 04:15:31 CEST 2012</I>
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+
+dd was the answer. I now have a bootable external hard drive and a
+bootable USB memory stick. Of course, I should have tried dd earlier.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+ <B>John Bowden</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved">led43john at googlemail.com
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+ <I>Sat Sep 29 14:44:42 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 29 Sep 2012 12:15:31 Phil wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 29/09/12 07:48, Phil wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dd was the answer. I now have a bootable external hard drive and a
+</I>&gt;<i> bootable USB memory stick. Of course, I should have tried dd earlier.
+</I>
+Glad you got it working with DD. The soft reboot trick to give an ext usb hd
+or dvd time to initalize is handy to keep in mind.
+--
+Registered Linux user number 414240
+
+Guy Faulks the only person to enter the Parliament with honest intentions and
+he was going to blow them up !
+
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org
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+<PRE>On Saturday 29 Sep 2012 08:44 my mailbox was graced by a message from John
+Bowden who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; dd was the answer. I now have a bootable external hard drive and a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bootable USB memory stick. Of course, I should have tried dd earlier.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Glad you got it working with DD. The soft reboot trick to give an ext usb
+</I>&gt;<i> hd or dvd time to initalize is handy to keep in mind.
+</I>
+This is probably why the BIOS of my recent motherboard has a waiting time of
+10 seconds before booting, to give the USB (and other) drives time to come up
+to speed.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ To our sweethearts and wives:
+ May they never meet.
+ -- 19th century toast
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Boot and fsck question">cooker at solbu.net
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+<PRE>I have just discovered that on Debian, one can force the system to run &quot;fsck -y&quot; on bootup, to make it automatically fix errors whether they require human intervention or not, by setting &quot;FSCKFIX=yes&quot; in /etc/default/rcS&quot;.
+I have also discovered that something similar is possible for Mandriva and Mageia, by activting &quot;AUTOFSCK_DEF_CHECK=yes&quot; in /etc/sysconfig/autofsck.
+Will this setting also force fsck to run with the &quot;-y&quot; option?
+
+The purpose of this change is to make selected systems so the administrator does /Not/ have to manually fix the filesystems. Some of these systems are at friends and family who religiously refuse to deal with the command line. They prefer that I drive an hour to their places and fix it. My brother learned to use a shellscript I created, that ran &quot;fsck -y&quot;. But he's the exception.
+I also have a server that I'd like to behave this way, so I don't have to attach a monitor and a keyboard each time it fails to boot up, because it wants me to &quot;hold it's hand&quot; in fixing it.
+
+--
+Johnny A. Solbu
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008698.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008728.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008671.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julia Jumeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008658.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008659.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008665.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008677.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008712.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008733.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008667.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008678.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008742.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 3 - alpha 1 is available
+</A><A NAME="8699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008755.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008664.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008673.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008674.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008690.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008691.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008702.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008706.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008707.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008718.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008720.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008724.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008696.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008708.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008722.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008657.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008660.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008661.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008663.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - correction
+</A><A NAME="8663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - solved
+</A><A NAME="8662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008713.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008655.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008744.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008747.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rama Space Ship
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008651.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008732.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008736.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008739.html">[Mageia-discuss] OT: Interesting new realtime historical archive service.
+</A><A NAME="8739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008753.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008754.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008757.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Boot and fsck question
+</A><A NAME="8783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008670.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008685.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008704.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Technical proofreaders needed
+</A><A NAME="8689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008725.html">[Mageia-discuss] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008729.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008735.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008737.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008714.html">[Mageia-discuss] network tools and ipv6
+</A><A NAME="8714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008653.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008656.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008672.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008723.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008700.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008715.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008687.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008694.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jpbfree
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vze1pbnt at verizon.net
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:24 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>September 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 1 00:16:27 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 136<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008648.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008650.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008651.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Where ara the isos for mga3 alpha1?
+</A><A NAME="8652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008653.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008654.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008655.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008656.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008657.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008658.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008659.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008660.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008661.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008663.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - correction
+</A><A NAME="8663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - solved
+</A><A NAME="8662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008664.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008665.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008667.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jpbfree
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008669.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008670.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008671.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julia Jumeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008672.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008673.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008674.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008676.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008677.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008678.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008685.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008687.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008688.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Technical proofreaders needed
+</A><A NAME="8689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008690.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008691.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008694.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008695.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008696.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008697.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008698.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 3 - alpha 1 is available
+</A><A NAME="8699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008700.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008701.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008702.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008703.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008704.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008705.html">[Mageia-discuss] GNOME Cauldron: Timezone vs Online Accounts?
+</A><A NAME="8705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008706.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008707.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008708.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008709.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008710.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008711.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008712.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008713.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008714.html">[Mageia-discuss] network tools and ipv6
+</A><A NAME="8714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008715.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008718.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008719.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008720.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008722.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008723.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008724.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008725.html">[Mageia-discuss] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008728.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008729.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008732.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008733.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008735.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008736.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008737.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008739.html">[Mageia-discuss] OT: Interesting new realtime historical archive service.
+</A><A NAME="8739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008742.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008744.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008747.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rama Space Ship
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008753.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008754.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008755.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008756.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008757.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sean Mac Suibhne 7
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008759.html">[Mageia-discuss] gnome-shell failure
+</A><A NAME="8759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vze1pbnt at verizon.net
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 25, Issue 30
+</A><A NAME="8778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vilhjalmur Ingi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Boot and fsck question
+</A><A NAME="8783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:24 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>September 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 1 00:16:27 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 136<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008737.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008729.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008732.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008735.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008736.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008708.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008710.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008711.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008712.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008722.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Boot and fsck question
+</A><A NAME="8783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vze1pbnt at verizon.net
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008670.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008673.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008702.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008703.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008704.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008706.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008705.html">[Mageia-discuss] GNOME Cauldron: Timezone vs Online Accounts?
+</A><A NAME="8705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008759.html">[Mageia-discuss] gnome-shell failure
+</A><A NAME="8759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008725.html">[Mageia-discuss] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008707.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008709.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008713.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008718.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008719.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008720.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008723.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008724.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008650.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008651.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008733.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sean Mac Suibhne 7
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 3 - alpha 1 is available
+</A><A NAME="8699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008664.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008665.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jpbfree
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 25, Issue 30
+</A><A NAME="8778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vilhjalmur Ingi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008654.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008655.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008728.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008700.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008701.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008715.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008755.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008756.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008757.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008714.html">[Mageia-discuss] network tools and ipv6
+</A><A NAME="8714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008739.html">[Mageia-discuss] OT: Interesting new realtime historical archive service.
+</A><A NAME="8739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008657.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008658.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008659.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008660.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008661.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008671.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julia Jumeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008672.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008663.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - correction
+</A><A NAME="8663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - solved
+</A><A NAME="8662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008742.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008744.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008747.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rama Space Ship
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008667.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008669.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008678.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008648.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008653.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008656.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008754.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008753.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Technical proofreaders needed
+</A><A NAME="8689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008674.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008676.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008677.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008685.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008687.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008688.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008690.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008691.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008694.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008695.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008696.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008697.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008698.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Where ara the isos for mga3 alpha1?
+</A><A NAME="8652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:24 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>September 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 1 00:16:27 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 136<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01346451387- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008648.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346451387-01346490648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008653.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346451387-01346490648-01346524612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008656.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346452785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up a port forward
+</A><A NAME="8649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01346468037- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008650.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346468037-01346468697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008651.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m vill l&#228;gga till dig p&#229; Zoosk!
+</A><A NAME="8651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346473347- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Where ara the isos for mga3 alpha1?
+</A><A NAME="8652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01346500181- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008654.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346500181-01346500580- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008655.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia1 slow boot
+</A><A NAME="8655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346566114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008657.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346566114-01346570926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008658.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346566114-01346570926-01346573803- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008660.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01346566114-01346570926-01346574656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008663.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - correction
+</A><A NAME="8663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01346566114-01346572350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008659.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346566114-01346572350-01346573936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008661.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01346566114-01346572350-01346576697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files - solved
+</A><A NAME="8662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01346566114-01346572350-01346603076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008671.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julia Jumeau
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01346566114-01346612455- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008672.html">[Mageia-discuss] Playing flv files
+</A><A NAME="8672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346586355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008664.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346586355-01346586737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008665.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346586355-01346587165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346586355-01346595945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jpbfree
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346586355-01346614796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008675.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346586355-01346614796-01346710267- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01346586355-01346710417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia PVR
+</A><A NAME="8692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346592608- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008667.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346592608-01346599604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008669.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346592608-01346599604-01346662464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008678.html">[Mageia-discuss] searching for plasmoid developers to implement Newbie How-to feature
+</A><A NAME="8678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346602168- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008670.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346602168-01346613226- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008673.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF 15 and TB 15
+</A><A NAME="8673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346613438- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008674.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346613438-01346614957- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008676.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346613438-01346615334- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008677.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346613438-01346674483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008685.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01346613438-01346690414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008687.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346613438-01346690414-01346696350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008688.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01346613438-01346690414-01346696350-01346710132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008691.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346613438-01346690414-01346696350-01346710132-01346719413- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008694.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346613438-01346690414-01346696350-01346710132-01346719413-01346738813- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008695.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01346613438-01346690414-01346747753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008696.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01346613438-01346690414-01346747753-01346749730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008697.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346613438-01346690414-01346747753-01346749730-01346752365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008698.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01346613438-01346709687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008690.html">[Mageia-discuss] TV Cards
+</A><A NAME="8690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346667031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008679.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01346667031-01346667458- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008680.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01346667031-01346667458-01346670723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01346667031-01346667458-01346670723-01346671236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346667031-01346667458-01346670723-01346671236-01346671512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346667031-01346667458-01346670723-01346671236-01346671512-01346672213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01346667031-01346667458-01346670723-01346671236-01346671512-01346672213-01346675315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mount nfs fails?
+</A><A NAME="8686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01346698402- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Technical proofreaders needed
+</A><A NAME="8689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01347032568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 3 - alpha 1 is available
+</A><A NAME="8699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01347146051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008700.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347146051-01347180224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008701.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347146051-01347180224-01347306894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008715.html">[Mageia-discuss] mod-fortune path problem
+</A><A NAME="8715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347184409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008702.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347184409-01347185381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008703.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347184409-01347185381-01347195126- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008704.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01347184409-01347185381-01347195126-01347256141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008706.html">[Mageia-discuss] FF java plugin
+</A><A NAME="8706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347223120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008705.html">[Mageia-discuss] GNOME Cauldron: Timezone vs Online Accounts?
+</A><A NAME="8705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01347268973- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008707.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347268973-01347271456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008709.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347268973-01347271456-01347301591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008713.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01347268973-01347271456-01347309939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008718.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01347268973-01347271456-01347309939-01347310750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008719.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01347268973-01347271456-01347309939-01347310750-01347327468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008720.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01347268973-01347271456-01347309939-01347352123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008723.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01347268973-01347271456-01347309939-01347352123-01347422842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008724.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE update problems? Maybe?
+</A><A NAME="8724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347270512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008708.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347270512-01347278515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008710.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kevin Bulgrien
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01347270512-01347280465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008711.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01347270512-01347281020- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008712.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347270512-01347281020-01347349509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008722.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha: how do you get rid of nouveau?
+</A><A NAME="8722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347304870- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008714.html">[Mageia-discuss] network tools and ipv6
+</A><A NAME="8714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01347309712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347309712-01347309848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347309712-01347309848-01347327756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Latest update not completing -- give message ...
+</A><A NAME="8721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347817661- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008725.html">[Mageia-discuss] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347817661-01347882693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008729.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347817661-01347882693-01347887523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008732.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01347817661-01347882693-01347887523-01347891763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008735.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01347817661-01347882693-01347887523-01347891763-01347893022- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008736.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347846133- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008726.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347846133-01347865696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01347846133-01347865696-01347882526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01347846133-01347865696-01347882526-01347885875- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01347846133-01347865696-01347882526-01347885875-01347890750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008734.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01347846133-01347873303- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008728.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making the serial port available to all
+</A><A NAME="8728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347887588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008733.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01347887588-01347907549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01347900517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008737.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] installing in parallel
+</A><A NAME="8737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01347946217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008739.html">[Mageia-discuss] OT: Interesting new realtime historical archive service.
+</A><A NAME="8739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01348011821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348011821-01348072193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Single click or double click ?
+</A><A NAME="8741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348098376- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008742.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348098376-01348127627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008744.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01348098376-01348139417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008747.html">[Mageia-discuss] PPTP in Mageia 2?
+</A><A NAME="8747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rama Space Ship
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348116544- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348116544-01348132757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348116544-01348132757-01348193981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01348116544-01348137849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01348116544-01348142794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01348116544-01348190246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need advice: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01348116544-01348197256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348116544-01348197256-01348197513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Allmost there: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348116544-01348197256-01348197513-01348204096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008753.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348116544-01348197256-01348197513-01348204096-01348204484- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008754.html">[Mageia-discuss] SUCCESS!: Transfer KMail settings and content from KDE3 to KDE4
+</A><A NAME="8754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348236302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008755.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348236302-01348237254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008756.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01348236302-01348246538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008757.html">[Mageia-discuss] mp3wrap ?
+</A><A NAME="8757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348236302-01348246538-01348318717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sean Mac Suibhne 7
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348236302-01348246538-01348318717-01348329475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 live boot fail
+</A><A NAME="8761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348322475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008759.html">[Mageia-discuss] gnome-shell failure
+</A><A NAME="8759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01348322618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348322618-01348329604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348322618-01348329604-01348330589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Hill
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348322618-01348329604-01348330589-01348331737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Downgrade package
+</A><A NAME="8764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348628576- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348628576-01348655567- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348628576-01348655567-01348657869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348657869-01348658796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670-01348743347- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670-01348743347-01348868932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670-01348743347-01348868932-01348884931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670-01348743347-01348868932-01348884931-01348922682- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348628576-01348655567-01348701670-01348743347-01348868932-01348884931-01348922682-01348923631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive solved
+</A><A NAME="8782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348658929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348658929-01348675628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348658929-01348675628-01348677646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348658929-01348675628-01348677646-01348739263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Video edition
+</A><A NAME="8776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348659825- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348659825-01348676114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Solution Linux 2012 (french event in Paris)
+</A><A NAME="8772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348683484- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bootable external drive
+</A><A NAME="8774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vze1pbnt at verizon.net
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01348828398- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 25, Issue 30
+</A><A NAME="8778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vilhjalmur Ingi
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01348967234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Boot and fsck question
+</A><A NAME="8783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:14 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 03:07:24 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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