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+ <B>Macxi</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20news%20about%20Mageia%20in%20German%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C201211010028.50639.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language">terraagua at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Thu Nov 1 03:28:50 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Sending news about Mageia.
+
+I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+translated text with the google language tool:
+
+&quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient servers to
+open source projects. The supported projects include Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and
+Mageia&quot;
+
+Macxi
+
+
+_____________________________________
+
+Site Pro-linux.de - By Mirko Lindner - October 26, 2012
+|<i> <A HREF="http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/19043/thomas-krenn-stiftet-server-fuer-freie-">http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/19043/thomas-krenn-stiftet-server-fuer-freie-</A>
+</I>projekte.html
+
+___________________________________
+
+Site Linux Magazine - by Mathias Huber - 25.10.2012
+|<i> <A HREF="http://www.linux-magazin.de/content/view/full/71839">http://www.linux-magazin.de/content/view/full/71839</A>
+</I>
+_______________________________________
+
+Site Aktiv Verzeichnis.de - 25.10.2012
+|<i> <A HREF="http://www.aktiv-verzeichnis.de/news/124730.html">http://www.aktiv-verzeichnis.de/news/124730.html</A>
+</I>
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language">alien at rmail.be
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 1 november 2012 00:28:50 schreef Macxi:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+</I>&gt;<i> translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;<i> servers to open source projects. The supported projects include Skolelinux,
+</I>&gt;<i> m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>
+This seems like good news to me...
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20news%20about%20Mageia%20in%20German%20language&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj502OcKJckTXLnrsUp%2B10-ERpCFbvXU9D_bD5AOKLV%3DJw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language">molch.b at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+</I>&gt;<i> translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient servers to
+</I>&gt;<i> open source projects. The supported projects include Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+
+--
+wobo
+</PRE>
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+<PRE>Luca Olivetti wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TPTB have decided to upgrade our ageing server (still running mandrake) with a new system based on vmware ESXi.
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought I'd install mageia in some of the virtual machines to migrate current services, but I see that it isn't certified as a guest OS
+</I>under vmware ESXi.
+&gt;<i> I actually don't care, but the vendor has suggested that we stick to one of the supported distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think that it's because mageia is a community distribution, because I see that debian, fedora and opensuse are &quot;certified&quot; (as are
+</I>the commercial ones like RHEL, SLES, CentOS, etc.).
+&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>
+Not sure what it matters having it &quot;certified.&quot; I run several Mageia server VMs in ESXi at work and they work great.
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+ <B>Bogdan CAZACU</B>
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+5 production vm servers with latest updates and &quot;smooth&quot; is just one word
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+&gt;<i> Luca Olivetti wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TPTB have decided to upgrade our ageing server (still running mandrake) with a new system based on vmware ESXi.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I thought I'd install mageia in some of the virtual machines to migrate current services, but I see that it isn't certified as a guest OS
+</I>&gt;<i> under vmware ESXi.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I actually don't care, but the vendor has suggested that we stick to one of the supported distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't think that it's because mageia is a community distribution, because I see that debian, fedora and opensuse are &quot;certified&quot; (as are
+</I>&gt;<i> the commercial ones like RHEL, SLES, CentOS, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure what it matters having it &quot;certified.&quot; I run several Mageia server VMs in ESXi at work and they work great.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And usually certification means &#8364;&#8364;&#8364; ...
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure what it matters having it &quot;certified.&quot;
+</I>
+To me less than zero, to my boss (scared by the vendor[*]) it seems it matters.
+
+&gt;<i> I run several Mageia server VMs in ESXi at work and they work great.
+</I>
+I personally have no doubt that it works perfectly, but my opinion doesn't count.
+
+
+[*]a vendor that has no experience with Linux and is proposing to migrate our samba/ldap setup to an active domain managed by windows server and files shared directly by a netapp filer (since they say that netapp only works with a &quot;real&quot; active directory implementation and cannot manage users permissions with ldap).
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+&gt;<i> but I see that it isn't certified as a guest OS under vmware ESXi.
+</I>
+Where exactly do you see it missing? (link, location)
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+&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
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+1) Already compiled modules for distribution's kernels
+2) VMware-tools/utils available from repositories
+3) VMware-tools/utils integration to distribution's normal tools (like mcc)
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+What Mageia can do is to make 2 and 3 easy for users and good instructions for 1. &quot;Certified&quot; products integrate also 1 but this is not in my opinion necessary as long as there is good quality instructions. 2 and 3 are not ok since there is much need for making it more user friendly. Anyway, if you're skilled Mageia user none of the above will be a problem.
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+&quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; kirjoitti 2.11.2012 kello 13.11:
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+&gt;<i> 2012/10/31 Luca Olivetti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luca at ventoso.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but I see that it isn't certified as a guest OS under vmware ESXi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where exactly do you see it missing? (link, location)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's likely, yes. Would you want to check this out?
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+&gt;<i> 2012/10/31 Luca Olivetti&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luca at ventoso.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but I see that it isn't certified as a guest OS under vmware ESXi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where exactly do you see it missing? (link, location)
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software&amp;testConfig=16">http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software&amp;testConfig=16</A>
+
+Select &quot;ESX/ESXi&quot; in the &quot;Product Name&quot; box and click &quot;Update and View
+Results&quot;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's likely, yes. Would you want to check this out?
+</I>
+I'll check with the vendor, but I don't have big hopes (since they were
+the ones pointing to the incompatibility and, at the same time,
+proposing to migrate our infrastructure to windows server).
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+&gt;<i> 2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; servers to open source projects. The supported projects include
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+</I>&gt;<i> supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+</I>&gt;<i> The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+</I>&gt;<i> projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+</I>&gt;<i> SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+</I>&gt;<i> to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+</I>
+Wobo,
+
+Thanks for replying.
+
+This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+
+ Macxi
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, if you're skilled Mageia user none of the above will be a problem.
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+It would not be a *technical* problem, mine is a political one :(
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+&gt;<i> Select &quot;ESX/ESXi&quot; in the &quot;Product Name&quot; box
+</I>
+I can't help but notice that Mandriva isn't either.
+
+&gt;<i> I'll check with the vendor, but I don't have big hopes
+</I>
+Why not check with vmware also, since they are the one certifying?
+Maybe we'll get ceritfied in the not so distant future.
+
+&gt;<i> (since they were the ones pointing to the incompatibility and, at the same time,
+</I>&gt;<i> proposing to migrate our infrastructure to windows server).
+</I>
+Heh. If we did that migration, I think we'd get some interest from the press. ;-)=
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+<PRE>2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Em qui 01 nov 2012, &#224;s 06:20:13, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; servers to open source projects. The supported projects include
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Macxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>
+AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+council, sysadmins, whoever). Maybe one of them will publish something
+on Mageia Blog.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Em qui 01 nov 2012, &#224;s 06:20:13, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> servers to open source projects. The supported projects include
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wobo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+</I>&gt;<i> a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+</I>&gt;<i> details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+</I>&gt;<i> council, sysadmins, whoever). Maybe one of them will publish something
+</I>&gt;<i> on Mageia Blog.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+You can thank obgr_seneca for that as he did apply for Mageia.org
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>2012/11/2 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 02.11.2012 14:29, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Em qui 01 nov 2012, &#224;s 06:20:13, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> servers to open source projects. The supported projects include
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wobo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council, sysadmins, whoever). Maybe one of them will publish something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia Blog.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can thank obgr_seneca for that as he did apply for Mageia.org
+</I>
+Yes, that's what I thought.
+
+I just sent a mail to Anne about the matter and asked if they want to
+publish a blog post with the details.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>02.11.2012 14:40, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.11.2012 14:29, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Em qui 01 nov 2012, &#224;s 06:20:13, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/1 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sending news about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know translate German language, so I copy the links below and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> translated text with the google language tool:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The server manufacturer Thomas-Krenn.AG awards eight energy-efficient
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> servers to open source projects. The supported projects include
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Skolelinux, m23, Kolab and Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Krenn GmbH, together with Univention GmbH and Netways are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> supporting free projects, one per quarter of a year, started in May
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012 with ubuntuusers.de.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The action this news is talking about was a special event where
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> projects could apply for one of eight mini servers, including 40GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SSD, sponsored by IBM. I don't know who at Mageia sent the application
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the sponsor, but he deserves a big Thank You.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wobo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> council, sysadmins, whoever). Maybe one of them will publish something
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia Blog.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can thank obgr_seneca for that as he did apply for Mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that's what I thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just sent a mail to Anne about the matter and asked if they want to
+</I>&gt;<i> publish a blog post with the details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep, we will do so...
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>2012/11/2 Luca Olivetti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luca at ventoso.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Al 02/11/2012 12:11, En/na Romain d'Alverny ha escrit:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Where exactly do you see it missing? (link, location)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software&amp;testConfig=16">http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software&amp;testConfig=16</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Select &quot;ESX/ESXi&quot; in the &quot;Product Name&quot; box and click &quot;Update and View
+</I>&gt;<i> Results&quot;
+</I>
+Thanks!
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe nobody got in touch with vmware to have mageia listed as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;certified&quot; distribution?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's likely, yes. Would you want to check this out?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll check with the vendor, but I don't have big hopes (since they were the
+</I>&gt;<i> ones pointing to the incompatibility and, at the same time, proposing to
+</I>&gt;<i> migrate our infrastructure to windows server).
+</I>
+Ok. On my end, I can't manage to find where to get a contact or access
+to start the certification process.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wobo,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+</I>&gt;<i> a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+</I>&gt;<i> details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+</I>&gt;<i> council, sysadmins, whoever).
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe one of them will publish something
+</I>&gt;<i> on Mageia Blog.
+</I>
+I think it is great news (and to my surprise comes from Germany and not from
+France)
+
+
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+&gt;<i> On my end, I can't manage to find where to get a contact or access
+</I>&gt;<i> to start the certification process.
+</I>
+I have asked on their facebook page[1] about this.
+Will write back if and when I get a responce.
+
+[1] <A HREF="https://www.facebook.com/vmware">https://www.facebook.com/vmware</A>
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+&gt;<i> Em sex 02 nov 2012, &#224;s 10:29:30, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/2 Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Wobo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; This is an important support for Mageia or is a simple gift for business
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; marketing of Thomas Krenn Company?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK there are no strings attached to the gift, no obligation to show
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a logo or whatever marketing thing for Thomas-Krenn GmbH. I think the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> details should be known by the recipient of the gift (Mageia board,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council, sysadmins, whoever).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe one of them will publish something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia Blog.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it is great news (and to my surprise comes from Germany and not from
+</I>&gt;<i> France)
+</I>
+No big surprise. A) We did our best to make the brand known at events
+and the media. B) One of the Mageia board members (obgr_seneca)
+applied for the offer. :)
+
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+ <B>Luca Olivetti</B>
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+&gt;<i> Ok. On my end, I can't manage to find where to get a contact or access
+</I>&gt;<i> to start the certification process.
+</I>
+Maybe here?
+
+<A HREF="http://vmware-alliances.force.com/vrf">http://vmware-alliances.force.com/vrf</A>
+
+Bye
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+
+I upgraded yesterday my computer from mageia 1 to mageia 2, most work but I
+am having problems with kmail2.
+I had read a lot about it, so I knew I had to export my filters to re-import
+them after upgrade. That worked, although at first they didn't seem to be
+properly applied, now that part is working.
+I also executed kmail-migrator by hand before starting kmail itself. It
+didn't import the password stored in kmail1 configuration, but thanks to
+this forum post
+<A HREF="http://fixunix.com/mandriva/342585-kmail-password-decoding.html">http://fixunix.com/mandriva/342585-kmail-password-decoding.html</A>
+I was able to restore them.
+
+But that akonadi-based kmail feels like a big step backward compared to how
+rock-stable kmail1 was.
+
+akonadi is configured to use an external mysql instance, and a few times I
+have seen the mysqld process go crazy on a big select from akondi. After
+more than an hour the select was still not finished (or was restarted in a
+loop by akonadi?) and I had to restart the akonadi server to make it stop.
+I have a little over 100000 mails, could that be the problem? Is that too
+much for akonadi?
+
+Some times it takes kmail many seconds to show the content of a folder or to
+change the status of a mail (from unread to read), and it happens quite
+frequently that I have a popup about a conflict on a mail (the differences
+being the date and a tag \SEEN). How can there be conflict with a single
+mail client?
+Some times I have to wait some minutes for it to make the actions I asked
+for (mark mails as read or move them to trash).
+On such occasion I see this message in akonadi error log
+
+ItemRetrieverException : Resource was unable to deliver item
+
+
+On one occasion, akonadi lost its connection to mysql, with this message
+repeated several times in its error log
+
+Database error: DataStore::beginTransaction
+ Last driver error: &quot;QMYSQL: Unable to begin transaction&quot;
+ Last database error: &quot;MySQL server has gone away&quot;
+
+Mysql was still there, but I had to restart akonadi (not mysql) to make it
+work again.
+
+The worst is that it has lost some mails!
+I know because some of the mails sent to this list didn't make it to me, on
+one occasion I saw it mark the folder as having 3 unread mails, and when I
+wanted to go see them (with a shortcut to go to the next unread message) the
+count went down to 1, I can see the missing mail on the list archive, but
+not in my inbox (even if I go look at the files).
+I only have POP3 accounts and I didn't even configure a spam filter yet (I
+read there has been some problem with that, which should be fixed in 4.8.5).
+
+I am considering downgrading to kmail1 from mga1, but I guess I will have to
+downgrade all of kdepim.
+Does it get any better with KDE 4.9?
+
+Or maybe I will switch to another mail client, is there another for KDE or
+should I go to a GTK one like claws-mail?
+
+
+Not sure if anybody can help me here, if you have any tips to make akonadi
+faster more stable they are welcome.
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
+
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+<PRE>Hi Renaud,
+
+On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:28:03 +0100
+Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I upgraded yesterday my computer from mageia 1 to mageia 2, most work but I
+</I>&gt;<i> am having problems with kmail2.
+</I>&gt;<i> I had read a lot about it, so I knew I had to export my filters to re-import
+</I>&gt;<i> them after upgrade. That worked, although at first they didn't seem to be
+</I>&gt;<i> properly applied, now that part is working.
+</I>&gt;<i> I also executed kmail-migrator by hand before starting kmail itself. It
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't import the password stored in kmail1 configuration, but thanks to
+</I>&gt;<i> this forum post
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fixunix.com/mandriva/342585-kmail-password-decoding.html">http://fixunix.com/mandriva/342585-kmail-password-decoding.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was able to restore them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that akonadi-based kmail feels like a big step backward compared to how
+</I>&gt;<i> rock-stable kmail1 was.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> akonadi is configured to use an external mysql instance, and a few times I
+</I>&gt;<i> have seen the mysqld process go crazy on a big select from akondi. After
+</I>&gt;<i> more than an hour the select was still not finished (or was restarted in a
+</I>&gt;<i> loop by akonadi?) and I had to restart the akonadi server to make it stop.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a little over 100000 mails, could that be the problem? Is that too
+</I>&gt;<i> much for akonadi?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some times it takes kmail many seconds to show the content of a folder or to
+</I>&gt;<i> change the status of a mail (from unread to read), and it happens quite
+</I>&gt;<i> frequently that I have a popup about a conflict on a mail (the differences
+</I>&gt;<i> being the date and a tag \SEEN). How can there be conflict with a single
+</I>&gt;<i> mail client?
+</I>&gt;<i> Some times I have to wait some minutes for it to make the actions I asked
+</I>&gt;<i> for (mark mails as read or move them to trash).
+</I>&gt;<i> On such occasion I see this message in akonadi error log
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ItemRetrieverException : Resource was unable to deliver item
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On one occasion, akonadi lost its connection to mysql, with this message
+</I>&gt;<i> repeated several times in its error log
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Database error: DataStore::beginTransaction
+</I>&gt;<i> Last driver error: &quot;QMYSQL: Unable to begin transaction&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Last database error: &quot;MySQL server has gone away&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mysql was still there, but I had to restart akonadi (not mysql) to make it
+</I>&gt;<i> work again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The worst is that it has lost some mails!
+</I>&gt;<i> I know because some of the mails sent to this list didn't make it to me, on
+</I>&gt;<i> one occasion I saw it mark the folder as having 3 unread mails, and when I
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted to go see them (with a shortcut to go to the next unread message) the
+</I>&gt;<i> count went down to 1, I can see the missing mail on the list archive, but
+</I>&gt;<i> not in my inbox (even if I go look at the files).
+</I>&gt;<i> I only have POP3 accounts and I didn't even configure a spam filter yet (I
+</I>&gt;<i> read there has been some problem with that, which should be fixed in 4.8.5).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am considering downgrading to kmail1 from mga1, but I guess I will have to
+</I>&gt;<i> downgrade all of kdepim.
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it get any better with KDE 4.9?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe I will switch to another mail client, is there another for KDE or
+</I>&gt;<i> should I go to a GTK one like claws-mail?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I cannot help you with your KMail2/Akonadi issues, but I can say that after
+KMail 2 and me did not get along, I had to switch to a different MUA (= mail
+user agent), and eventually went with claws-mail. Claws-Mail is not perfect,
+but it has most of KMail's useful features, and appears to work nicely. It's
+also very fast, and I run it fine through ssh over my laptop's wifi network
+and it's still responsive.
+
+I have written some scripts to convert away from KMail here (let me know if
+there's something you don't understand there):
+
+<A HREF="https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview">https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview</A>
+
+They took a lot of time to run here, but it was worth it, and now I'm a
+(mostly) happy Claws-Mail user. I do wish that KMail's developers did not screw
+up KMail 2 so badly. KMail 1 was *so* great.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> I can say that after KMail 2 and me did not get along,
+</I>
+ I also feel the way Renaud &amp; Shlomi do about KMail2, though the main
+reason I'm avoiding it (by staying with Mandriva 2010.2) is because the
+Find Messages function* is broken.
+
+If eventually I totally give up on KMail2, then I shall take a look at
+Claws-Mail, and I thank you for the help info you have provided.
+
+I am also keeping an eye on Thunderbird as an alternative, hoping they
+will smooth out its new 'maildir' option so that I can move over with
+my large maildir email database.
+
+ (* I have checked KMail 4.9.2's Find Messages and there are signs of
+an improvment, but there's some way to go yet.)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> I have written some scripts to convert away from KMail here (let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> if there's something you don't understand there):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview">https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview</A>
+</I>
+ II see that C_M uses an 'MH' email format.
+How does MH compare with the two extremes: mbox &amp; maildir?
+ (All my emails are in maildir form)
+
+(With mbox, if one has 100 emails, they are contained as 100 items in
+1 mbox file; with maildir, one would have 100 small maildir files -
+much easier to backup etc using rsync.)
+
+--
+/\/\aurice
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:45:25 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can say that after KMail 2 and me did not get along,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also feel the way Renaud &amp; Shlomi do about KMail2, though the main
+</I>&gt;<i> reason I'm avoiding it (by staying with Mandriva 2010.2) is because the
+</I>&gt;<i> Find Messages function* is broken.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If eventually I totally give up on KMail2, then I shall take a look at
+</I>&gt;<i> Claws-Mail, and I thank you for the help info you have provided.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am also keeping an eye on Thunderbird as an alternative, hoping they
+</I>&gt;<i> will smooth out its new 'maildir' option so that I can move over with
+</I>&gt;<i> my large maildir email database.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (* I have checked KMail 4.9.2's Find Messages and there are signs of
+</I>&gt;<i> an improvment, but there's some way to go yet.)
+</I>
+HI,
+
+I also had problems with Kmail2
+I'm still using Mageia 1 because, when I tried to migrate to Mageia 2 errors
+occurred with Kmail2, as mentioned in the forum:
+
+&quot;Kmail2: error opening folder, is missing - Mga 2 - 482 &#8203;&#8203;Kde&quot;
+|<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=3325&amp;p=24827&amp;hilit=kmail2">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=3325&amp;p=24827&amp;hilit=kmail2</A> #
+</I>p24827
+
+The Kmail in Mageia 1 has many features and is very fast and in Mageia 2, Kmail2
+is not so good.
+
+I made mistakes in the data import for Kmail2 causing more errors. I have tried
+to test importing the files correctly and kmail2 now work without errors, but I'm
+not insecure. I need to be sure that it is working better.
+
+There are options: &quot;thunderbird&quot;, &quot;Evolution&quot; and &quot;Claws Mail&quot;, but I would like
+to continue using Kmail, which is very good. Maybe I should wait for the updates
+of KDE in Mageia 2 or Mageia 3.
+
+Macxi
+
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+&gt;<i> I cannot help you with your KMail2/Akonadi issues, but I can say that
+</I>&gt;<i> after KMail 2 and me did not get along, I had to switch to a different
+</I>&gt;<i> MUA (= mail user agent), and eventually went with claws-mail. Claws-Mail
+</I>&gt;<i> is not perfect, but it has most of KMail's useful features, and appears
+</I>&gt;<i> to work nicely. It's also very fast, and I run it fine through ssh over
+</I>&gt;<i> my laptop's wifi network and it's still responsive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have written some scripts to convert away from KMail here (let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> if there's something you don't understand there):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview">https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/convert-away-from-kmail/overview</A>
+</I>
+Thank you, I will keep that at hand if I decide to migrate to claws-mail.
+
+For now, it seems I was wrong on the &quot;lost some email&quot; part. It was more of
+a problem with filters which moved some mails to the wrong folder, but when
+I selected that folder the mails were moved back where they should.
+
+So I will give kmail2 a few days to see how it behave.
+
+Regards,
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+On 02/11/2012 21:04, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:45:25 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can say that after KMail 2 and me did not get along,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also feel the way Renaud &amp; Shlomi do about KMail2, though the
+</I>&gt;<i> main reason I'm avoiding it (by staying with Mandriva 2010.2) is
+</I>&gt;<i> because the Find Messages function* is broken.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If eventually I totally give up on KMail2, then I shall take a look
+</I>&gt;<i> at Claws-Mail, and I thank you for the help info you have
+</I>&gt;<i> provided.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am also keeping an eye on Thunderbird as an alternative, hoping
+</I>&gt;<i> they will smooth out its new 'maildir' option so that I can move
+</I>&gt;<i> over with my large maildir email database.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (* I have checked KMail 4.9.2's Find Messages and there are signs
+</I>&gt;<i> of an improvment, but there's some way to go yet.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm keeping an eye on KMail, but it hasn't yet reached the stage that
+I want to rely on. Meanwhile, I've been using Thunderbird for ~1
+year. It needs a few add-ons to give it the functionality that KMail
+had, but just about everything is possible.
+
+I have two accounts set up on TB - one for GMail IMAP, and one for my
+own IMAP server. I have no problems with either, so I'm not sure what
+it is that's worrying you. If you want me to check anything and
+report back, please ask.
+
+Anne
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+&gt;<i> I have two accounts set up on TB - one for GMail IMAP, and one for my own
+</I>&gt;<i> IMAP server. I have no problems with either, so I'm not sure what it is
+</I>&gt;<i> that's worrying you.
+</I>
+ The problem I have seen repoted is mainly that TB is still not very
+good at re-synchronising 'maldir' folders when emails have been
+added/deleted, so I'm awaiting improvements there before I jump.
+
+(I use POP rather than IMAP, and when cloning the email database
+between desktop and laptop (for trips away), I want to use rsync,
+which is why I want to stay with 'maildir', and why I therefore need a
+TB that handles it well (i.e. as good as KMail)..
+
+Although I have no problems with KMail2's handling of maildir folders,
+it's the Find Messages facility that I need working well, and it has
+been a disaster in KMail2 - though improving, I hear.
+
+In the meantime I'm stuck with Mandriva 2010.2 and its excellent Kmail.
+
+--
+/\/\aurice
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+Hello,
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+Someone pushed wine 1.4 in the Mageia 1 updates repository, and
+installing it subsequently broke sound on my computer (in the sense
+that wine 1.4 doesn't seem to recognize any sound driver). I therefore
+had to revert to wine 1.3.20.
+
+Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to ship wine 1.4 in the
+backports repository (which I don't have enabled)?
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+Regards
+
+Antoine.
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+&gt;<i> Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to ship wine 1.4 in the
+</I>&gt;<i> backports repository (which I don't have enabled)?
+</I>
+Not untill backports are opened. No package can be put in backports yet.
+(Don't remember why, but I think it depends on a certain bugzilla entry to be fixed.)
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+On 03/11/2012 13:19, Maurice Batey wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:51:21 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have two accounts set up on TB - one for GMail IMAP, and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for my own IMAP server. I have no problems with either, so I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not sure what it is that's worrying you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem I have seen repoted is mainly that TB is still not
+</I>&gt;<i> very good at re-synchronising 'maldir' folders when emails have
+</I>&gt;<i> been added/deleted, so I'm awaiting improvements there before I
+</I>&gt;<i> jump.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I use POP rather than IMAP, and when cloning the email database
+</I>&gt;<i> between desktop and laptop (for trips away), I want to use rsync,
+</I>&gt;<i> which is why I want to stay with 'maildir', and why I therefore
+</I>&gt;<i> need a TB that handles it well (i.e. as good as KMail)..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Although I have no problems with KMail2's handling of maildir
+</I>&gt;<i> folders, it's the Find Messages facility that I need working well,
+</I>&gt;<i> and it has been a disaster in KMail2 - though improving, I hear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the meantime I'm stuck with Mandriva 2010.2 and its excellent
+</I>&gt;<i> Kmail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My IMAP server uses maildir folders and TB has no problem with them.
+The only thing I do find is that occasionally TB seems to forget to
+refresh the folders. I either have to click on the folder to request
+a re-read, or if I think a lot of folders have changed it can be
+quicker and easier to just close TB and re-start it. OTOH, I leave it
+running all night, and a &quot;Get all messages&quot; first thing in the morning
+usually works fine.
+
+Anne
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+&gt;<i> occasionally TB seems to forget to refresh
+</I>&gt;<i> the folders. I either have to click on the folder to request a re-read,
+</I>&gt;<i> or if I think a lot of folders have changed it can be quicker and easier
+</I>&gt;<i> to just close TB and re-start it.
+</I>
+ That was the sort of problem that I saw, but also there were some
+rough edges to the handling of maildir (e.g. lost emails).
+
+Perhaps later versions of TB are better with maildir, and I need to
+take a closer look.
+ Which version of TB are you using, please?
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+&quot;Johnny A. Solbu&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt;
+wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 04 November 2012 00:50, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to ship wine 1.4 in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backports repository (which I don't have enabled)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not untill backports are opened. No package can be put in backports yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Don't remember why, but I think it depends on a certain bugzilla entry to be fixed.)
+</I>
+Ok, thanks. For the record, I upgraded to wine 1.4 again and the
+following fix allowed me to configure sound devices again:
+<A HREF="http://dcors.blogspot.fr/2012/05/no-audio-in-wine-14.html">http://dcors.blogspot.fr/2012/05/no-audio-in-wine-14.html</A>
+
+However, I am now occasionally witnessing the following issue:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/997331">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/997331</A>
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:32:11 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> occasionally TB seems to forget to refresh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the folders. I either have to click on the folder to request a re-read,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or if I think a lot of folders have changed it can be quicker and easier
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to just close TB and re-start it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That was the sort of problem that I saw, but also there were some
+</I>&gt;<i> rough edges to the handling of maildir (e.g. lost emails).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps later versions of TB are better with maildir, and I need to
+</I>&gt;<i> take a closer look.
+</I>&gt;<i> Which version of TB are you using, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Mageia uses a patched version of the Long Term Support version, 10.0.9,
+IIRC. On Mageia Cauldron I have 16.0.1 and on Windows I have 16.0.2.
+Having said that, I've been using it in various versions, certianly from
+at least 13.x, over the last year.
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+Anne
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+&gt;<i> On Mageia Cauldron I have 16.0.1
+</I>
+ OIC - thank you.
+As I understand it the 'maildir' extension didn't appear until TB14, so
+I will give it a try on my Mageia-3-Alpha2 install.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:25:07 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mageia Cauldron I have 16.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OIC - thank you.
+</I>&gt;<i> As I understand it the 'maildir' extension didn't appear until TB14, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I will give it a try on my Mageia-3-Alpha2 install.
+</I>
+be advised that mageia 3 should end on the next LTS version, which should be
+17.0.X
+
+last i checked, we have 10.0.10 on mageia2
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+&gt;<i> Op zondag 4 november 2012 18:53:04 schreef Maurice Batey:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:25:07 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mageia Cauldron I have 16.0.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OIC - thank you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I understand it the 'maildir' extension didn't appear until TB14, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will give it a try on my Mageia-3-Alpha2 install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> be advised that mageia 3 should end on the next LTS version, which should be
+</I>&gt;<i> 17.0.X
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> last i checked, we have 10.0.10 on mageia2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, Mageia2 will probalby switch to 17.0 ESR after it's released
+if/when mozilla drops support for 10.0 ESR
+
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+found that the idlelib and lib-tk directories are missing from
+/usr/lib/python2.7. I'm surprised it hasn't been found before as idle.py
+isn't installed and it's dependency on tk isn't either. Can we get a fixup
+for this? I'm just a user and don't know how to repair this.
+
+Paul Simon
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+
+2012/11/5 Paul Simon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">psimon at sonic.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> I've just started moving a python project from mageia 1 to mageia 3 and
+</I>&gt;<i> have
+</I>&gt;<i> found that the idlelib and lib-tk directories are missing from
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/python2.7. I'm surprised it hasn't been found before as idle.py
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't installed and it's dependency on tk isn't either. Can we get a fixup
+</I>&gt;<i> for this? I'm just a user and don't know how to repair this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul Simon
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Try `urpmq -l tkinter`
+
+
+
+
+2012/11/5 Paul Simon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">psimon at sonic.net</A>&gt;
+
+I've just started moving a python project from mageia 1 to mageia 3 and have
+found that the idlelib and lib-tk directories are missing from
+/usr/lib/python2.7. I'm surprised it hasn't been found before as idle.py
+isn't installed and it's dependency on tk isn't either. Can we get a fixup
+for this? I'm just a user and don't know how to repair this.
+
+Paul Simon
+---------------------
+&quot;no package named tkinter&quot;
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+Paul S.
+
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+&gt;<i> &quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> message
+</I>&gt;<i> news:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CAOfq2QR6o2hmnqUozmbL37TH+fPA+D8qgHzz1OV5JkY1xfCjqw at mail.gmail.com...</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try `urpmq -l tkinter`
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/11/5 Paul Simon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">psimon at sonic.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've just started moving a python project from mageia 1 to mageia 3 and have
+</I>&gt;<i> found that the idlelib and lib-tk directories are missing from
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/python2.7. I'm surprised it hasn't been found before as idle.py
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't installed and it's dependency on tk isn't either. Can we get a fixup
+</I>&gt;<i> for this? I'm just a user and don't know how to repair this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul Simon
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;no package named tkinter&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul S.
+</I>
+why not just search for idle.py files?
+
+&quot;urpmf idle.py&quot;
+
+that lists packages that contain this file
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+&gt;<i> Op zondag 4 november 2012 16:26:26 schreef Paul Simon:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote in
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> news:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CAOfq2QR6o2hmnqUozmbL37TH+fPA+D8qgHzz1OV5JkY1xfCjqw at mail.gmail.com...</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Try `urpmq -l tkinter`
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/11/5 Paul Simon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">psimon at sonic.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've just started moving a python project from mageia 1 to mageia 3 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> found that the idlelib and lib-tk directories are missing from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/python2.7. I'm surprised it hasn't been found before as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> idle.py
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't installed and it's dependency on tk isn't either. Can we get a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fixup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for this? I'm just a user and don't know how to repair this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Paul Simon
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ---------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;no package named tkinter&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Paul S.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> why not just search for idle.py files?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;urpmf idle.py&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> that lists packages that contain this file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>-------------------------
+Thanks to both of you for your help. It often helps to ask for help which
+then leads to new thinking. I added &lt;all&gt; media to update, loaded 493
+packages and there it was.
+
+Thanks again,
+
+Paul Simon
+
+
+
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+ <B>Jan Ciger</B>
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+Valve has announced Steam for Linux Beta. So far only for Ubuntu, but
+they are planning to support more distros based on *user feedback*.
+
+It would be good to get in touch with them in some official capacity so
+that Mageia gets officially supported too!
+
+<A HREF="http://store.steampowered.com/news/9289/">http://store.steampowered.com/news/9289/</A>
+
+Regards,
+
+Jan
+
+P.S.: It would be also good to package the latest Nvidia drivers - they
+supposedly double the Linux performance ...
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Wed Nov 7 11:18:27 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I was just wondering if there was an easy fix to this.
+
+I use Thunderbird on my main box to help run a webzine. I have
+Thunderbird receiving and fetching mail from various locations and
+receive approximately over +1500 emails per day (some days 3,000). So,
+Thunderbird is pretty busy.
+
+When I monitor the use of resources, TB can go from using practically no
+resources to 80-90% resources. This has the effect of making my Mageia
+box &quot;freeze&quot; temporarily when TB is gobbling up a lot of resources. I
+have been ignoring this when working with other software as I know that
+5-6 seconds later TB generally releases enough resources for the other
+programmes to work. The whole setup makes for a lot of hiccups when in
+use. Although, the board is really reliable.
+
+My Mobo: ASRock K8Upgrade-VM800
+RAM: 2 gig (Mobo RAM max is 2 gig so I can't add more)
+AGP Card: GeForce 7300GT
+
+I usually need the following software open to work with:
+
+FF
+KWrite
+Skype
+Pidgin
+
+I know that a new mobo with more RAM would fix this, but is there a way
+to make the box work with less interruptions? Are there any other
+options/tricks other than replacing the box?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 05:18:27AM -0500, Marc wrote in
+&lt;k7dchi$7lc$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">1 at ger.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>I was just wondering if there was an easy fix to this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I use Thunderbird on my main box to help run a webzine. I have
+</I>&gt;<i>Thunderbird receiving and fetching mail from various locations and
+</I>&gt;<i>receive approximately over +1500 emails per day (some days 3,000).
+</I>&gt;<i>So, Thunderbird is pretty busy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>When I monitor the use of resources, TB can go from using practically
+</I>&gt;<i>no resources to 80-90% resources. This has the effect of making my
+</I>&gt;<i>Mageia box &quot;freeze&quot; temporarily when TB is gobbling up a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i>resources. I have been ignoring this when working with other software
+</I>&gt;<i>as I know that 5-6 seconds later TB generally releases enough
+</I>&gt;<i>resources for the other programmes to work. The whole setup makes for
+</I>&gt;<i>a lot of hiccups when in use. Although, the board is really reliable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>My Mobo: ASRock K8Upgrade-VM800
+</I>&gt;<i>RAM: 2 gig (Mobo RAM max is 2 gig so I can't add more)
+</I>&gt;<i>AGP Card: GeForce 7300GT
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I usually need the following software open to work with:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>FF
+</I>&gt;<i>KWrite
+</I>&gt;<i>Skype
+</I>&gt;<i>Pidgin
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I know that a new mobo with more RAM would fix this, but is there a
+</I>&gt;<i>way to make the box work with less interruptions? Are there any other
+</I>&gt;<i>options/tricks other than replacing the box?
+</I>
+Hi Marc,
+
+Have you tried lowering the priority of the thunderbird process? See 'man
+nice' for how to do this.
+
+Remmy
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+ <B>Rory Albertyn</B>
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+
+I am in the process of opening a concept store as well as many branches
+of my company across my country UK etc.
+In my country, due to what many businesses see as a failure in windows8
+they are now moving to Linux. Part of my aim is to offer consultancy and
+Mageia pre-built systems to them as well as support.
+
+So, what I am wanting to know is, Where, how and what are my steps to
+brand my store, business documentation and posters/flyers etc with the
+Mageia logo etc. I'd also like to make a Mageia section with demo
+computer/laptop/touchscreen/tablet/etc.
+
+Since I am from the start, named for the Southern African Mageia
+community, I'd like to carry on with this and promote Mageia to as many
+people and businesses moving away from windows. But, I want to do it the
+right way and not infringe on any possible copyrights etc. this is why
+I'd like to make double sure if I can have the above done. I'd even want
+to put a big Lit up 3d Mageia sign outside the store and office block.
+
+Kind Regards,
+Rory Albertyn
+Gripen
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 07/11/2012 13:05, Rory Albertyn a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi and thanks for your interest in Mageia
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in the process of opening a conceptg store as well as many branches
+</I>&gt;<i> of my company across my country UK etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> In my country, due to what many businesses see as a failure in windows8
+</I>&gt;<i> they are now moving to Linux. Part of my aim is to offer consultancy and
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia pre-built systems to them as well as support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what I am wanting to know is, Where, how and what are my steps to
+</I>&gt;<i> brand my store, business documentation and posters/flyers etc with the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia logo etc. I'd also like to make a Mageia section with demo
+</I>&gt;<i> computer/laptop/touchscreen/tablet/etc.
+</I>
+We would be delighted to add you in Mageia ecosystem. About logo please
+have a look here to get the right one:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A>
+
+Also you can have a look here
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Commercial_vendors">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Commercial_vendors</A>
+
+You can reach us whenever you want to check your offer or any
+information about Mageia.
+
+Cheers
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since I am from the start, named for the Southern African Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> community, I'd like to carry on with this and promote Mageia to as many
+</I>&gt;<i> people and businesses moving away from windows. But, I want to do it the
+</I>&gt;<i> right way and not infringe on any possible copyrights etc. this is why
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to make double sure if I can have the above done. I'd even want
+</I>&gt;<i> to put a big Lit up 3d Mageia sign outside the store and office block.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Rory Albertyn
+</I>&gt;<i> Gripen
+</I>
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 7 20:07:48 CET 2012</I>
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+
+Le 2012-11-07 06:08, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 05:18:27AM -0500, Marc wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;k7dchi$7lc$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">1 at ger.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was just wondering if there was an easy fix to this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I use Thunderbird on my main box to help run a webzine. I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird receiving and fetching mail from various locations and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> receive approximately over +1500 emails per day (some days 3,000). So,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird is pretty busy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When I monitor the use of resources, TB can go from using practically
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no resources to 80-90% resources. This has the effect of making my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia box &quot;freeze&quot; temporarily when TB is gobbling up a lot of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources. I have been ignoring this when working with other software
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as I know that 5-6 seconds later TB generally releases enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources for the other programmes to work. The whole setup makes for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a lot of hiccups when in use. Although, the board is really reliable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My Mobo: ASRock K8Upgrade-VM800
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> RAM: 2 gig (Mobo RAM max is 2 gig so I can't add more)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AGP Card: GeForce 7300GT
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I usually need the following software open to work with:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FF
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KWrite
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Skype
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pidgin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know that a new mobo with more RAM would fix this, but is there a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> way to make the box work with less interruptions? Are there any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> options/tricks other than replacing the box?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have you tried lowering the priority of the thunderbird process? See
+</I>&gt;<i> 'man nice' for how to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>
+Thanks for the reply.
+
+No, I haven't tried this. Is there a way to do this with some kind of
+GUI piece of software? I usually try to find ways to work on Mageia in a
+way that any user could manage; most users will prefer to do this in a
+GUI-visual-way.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> No, I haven't tried this. Is there a way to do this with some kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> GUI piece of software? I usually try to find ways to work on Mageia in a
+</I>&gt;<i> way that any user could manage; most users will prefer to do this in a
+</I>&gt;<i> GUI-visual-way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just found that ksysguard may do this. I'll give it a try. Any tips
+would be well appreciated.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
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+<PRE>Le 2012-11-07 14:17, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 2012-11-07 14:07, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, I haven't tried this. Is there a way to do this with some kind of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GUI piece of software? I usually try to find ways to work on Mageia in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> way that any user could manage; most users will prefer to do this in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GUI-visual-way.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just found that ksysguard may do this. I'll give it a try. Any tips
+</I>&gt;<i> would be well appreciated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have played around with ksysguard and it has fixed the problem.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
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+develop Mageia to be runned on either ARM or MIPS/MIPSEL-based devices?
+
+If so, let me know.
+
+I have a fully rooted Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000 that I run CWM
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+On 07/11/2012 21:02, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have played around with ksysguard and it has fixed the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Hi Marc,
+
+Another thing TB does sometimes is send drafts before you're finished!
+I was going to suggest ksysguard, but my message was sent whilst I
+went off to check ksysguard's name, as I haven't used it for a while. :-(
+
+Simon(nzg)
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Thu Nov 8 15:47:49 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Simon,
+
+Le 2012-11-08 05:28, Simon Parsons a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 07/11/2012 21:02, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I have played around with ksysguard and it has fixed the problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another thing TB does sometimes is send drafts before you're finished!
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to suggest ksysguard, but my message was sent whilst I
+</I>&gt;<i> went off to check ksysguard's name, as I haven't used it for a while.:-(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Simon(nzg)
+</I>
+Thanks. ksysguard was a lot of help in fixing the problem.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+--
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+
+&gt;<i> Le 07/11/2012 13:05, Rory Albertyn a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi and thanks for your interest in Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am in the process of opening a conceptg store as well as many branches
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of my company across my country UK etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In my country, due to what many businesses see as a failure in windows8
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they are now moving to Linux. Part of my aim is to offer consultancy and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia pre-built systems to them as well as support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, what I am wanting to know is, Where, how and what are my steps to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> brand my store, business documentation and posters/flyers etc with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia logo etc. I'd also like to make a Mageia section with demo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer/laptop/touchscreen/**tablet/etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would be delighted to add you in Mageia ecosystem. About logo please
+</I>&gt;<i> have a look here to get the right one:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/**about/media/&lt;http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/**about/media/&lt;http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Also, if you have page restrictions or for some other reason need a
+different size or form-factor of logo, please contact the Atelier team.
+We can be found on #mageia-atelier @Freenode, or our mailing list:
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also you can have a look here
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/**Commercial_vendors&lt;https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Commercial_vendors">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/**Commercial_vendors&lt;https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Commercial_vendors</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can reach us whenever you want to check your offer or any information
+</I>&gt;<i> about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since I am from the start, named for the Southern African Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> community, I'd like to carry on with this and promote Mageia to as many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people and businesses moving away from windows. But, I want to do it the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> right way and not infringe on any possible copyrights etc. this is why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to make double sure if I can have the above done. I'd even want
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to put a big Lit up 3d Mageia sign outside the store and office block.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kind Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Rory Albertyn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gripen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Tony Blackwell</B>
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+<PRE>Greetings all,
+I've stumbled on what seems like a really nasty problem, where after
+adding a new disk, a different perfectly good disk (as of a few minutes
+prior) comes to have a large number of reallocated sectors and the
+mageia 'smart' software is screaming at me that the disk is about to
+fail _now_ and to back it up.
+
+Context:
+mageia 1
+7 sata disks.
+bought a new (my first) 3TB disk, used gdisk to partition it, 'L' for
+partition types, chose the last option for MBR (was this wrong?) Next
+created an encrypted filesystem on this:
+
+a) modprobe dm-mod
+/usr/local/bin/cryptsetup.sh -c aes -h ripemd160 -y -b `blockdev
+--getsize /dev/
+sdg1` create cryptvol2 /dev/sdg1
+
+b) mke2fs -j /dev/mapper cryptvol2
+
+c) after completion, dmsetup remove cryptvol2
+
+d) mount the new filesystem with;
+
+modprobe dm-mod
+/usr/local/bin/cryptsetup.sh -c aes -h ripemd160 -y -b `blockdev
+--getsize /dev/
+sdg1` create cryptvol2 /dev/sdg1
+mount /dev/mapper/cryptvol2 /mnt/crypt2
+
+All looked good, but there was a 'smart' warning icon about a disk about
+to fail. The 3 TB disk I'd just done happened to be /dev/sdg. The disk
+reporting errors was /dev/sdh, a 2TB disk.
+
+Device: /dev/sdh
+SMART status: enabled
+Automatic Offline Data Collection status: enabled
+ALERT: The drive is reporting that it will FAIL very soon.
+Please back up as soon as possible!
+
+I grumbled, thought it a strange coincidence that this just appeared,
+took out the 'faulty' disk, bought another 3TB disk to replace it, did
+it all again. The new 3TB disk as again seen as /dev/sdg. Did same
+stuff again, up came the same error message about yet _another_ disk.
+Having had zero reallocated sectors only a few minutes before, it now
+reports 3975 reallocated sectors, the identical number to the first
+'normal' disk, and same error messages. The 'faulty' disk was again the
+one seen as /dev/sdg. This reallocation seems to have welded itself into
+the disk; persists after reboot.
+
+Help! I've no idea where to go next. Looks like a major bug, but in what?
+
+
+
+
+
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+ <B>Tony Blackwell</B>
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+<PRE>Further info and thoughts.
+
+The 2nd episode reported above was with 7 x 2TB hard disks in the tower
+and the eighth (the 3 TB to be configured) loose on top via the last
+SATA connection. I have since removed this 3TB, rebooted and
+gsmartcontrol no longer shows one of the 2TB disks with a bunch of
+reallocated sectors. ('tho I'm +/- sure the first disk showing
+reallocation errors persisted).
+
+1. Could it be a power-related problem?? 850 watt power supply, ASUS
+P6T M'board, 4Gb RAM, GeForce GTX 285 video card, intel core i7 920
+CPU... No other system problems to suggest this.
+
+2, M'board provides 2 different chipsets to drive some of the SATA
+ports each. Relevant???
+
+Appreciate any ideas.
+Tony Blackwell
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+&gt;<i> Further info and thoughts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The 2nd episode reported above was with 7 x 2TB hard disks in the tower
+</I>&gt;<i> and the eighth (the 3 TB to be configured) loose on top via the last
+</I>&gt;<i> SATA connection. I have since removed this 3TB, rebooted and
+</I>&gt;<i> gsmartcontrol no longer shows one of the 2TB disks with a bunch of
+</I>&gt;<i> reallocated sectors. ('tho I'm +/- sure the first disk showing
+</I>&gt;<i> reallocation errors persisted).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Could it be a power-related problem?? 850 watt power supply, ASUS
+</I>&gt;<i> P6T M'board, 4Gb RAM, GeForce GTX 285 video card, intel core i7 920
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU... No other system problems to suggest this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2, M'board provides 2 different chipsets to drive some of the SATA
+</I>&gt;<i> ports each. Relevant???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Appreciate any ideas.
+</I>&gt;<i> Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+if you have a spare PSU, you could just put that psu on that disk alone, and
+hotwire the header plug to start the psu voltages, to pre-power your disk
+only.
+
+then proceed and see if that's really the issue.
+
+other ideas:
+1) the onboard fakeraid is getting initialized and has an effect on it (check
+bios after plugging disks in)
+2) the 7th and 8th port alone is a different chipset and has some weird issues,
+like when 8th port is plugged, 7th starts failing
+3) i guess software is always possible, but i would start eliminating all the
+hardware issues
+
+btw: what happens if you add the 3TB once more? will the reallocated sectors
+show up again? (i wonder)
+
+if all this fails, i'd send an email to lkml to get more ideas or ways to
+check it.
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+thought I'd try Mageia 2.
+
+Specs:
+
+EeePC 900
+900MHz Celeron Mobile
+2GB RAM
+32GB PATA SSD
+i915 Graphics
+
+When I tried the LiveCD, it failed to boot. It would hang.
+So I tried the Free DVD (i586). It hangs during the
+boot/installation. I switched to the command prompt screen, and ran ps.
+It appears to be hanging on &quot;insmod /tmp/sd_mod.ko&quot;. This insmod
+process is unkillable, even with kill -9.
+
+Any ideas or suggestions? Has anyone got M2 installed on a 900 (not a
+901)?
+
+Thanks,
+
+red floyd
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+ <B>Alejandro L&#243;pez</B>
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+<PRE>Well, it took me some time but I finally created the bugs:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8081</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8082">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8082</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8083">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8083</A>
+
+Regards,
+Alejandro.
+
+On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Marcello &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Il 17/09/2012 15:13, Alejandro L&#243;pez ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I installed Mageia 2 on 2 new systems where no previous installation was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> available. This means it wasn't an upgrade, but a complete install from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the DVD. While doing this, I fall in some problems:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) I seleced brtfs for a partition and the installer told me it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going to install the package btrfs-progs, but failed to do so and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couldn't use btrfs on tat partition. What I remark here is that it tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but failed. So either btrfs should not be present in the installer, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the btrfs-progs package present in the DVD (I may be missing other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possibilities)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) While partitioning the disks, I accidentally pressed &quot;format&quot; instal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the button I wanted to really press. I wanted to press the &quot;back&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> button but there wasn't any. Once at this point, the only possible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> action is to format the partition. Luckilly it was a brand new disk so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lost nothing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) This is the most annoying problem I have. Although I configured none
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the local acounts for autologin, there is an account the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically logs-in after booting the machines. I see the desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> during a fraction of a seconds an then an error message that says (in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spanisk so my translation back to english might no the exact):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Something went wrong. A error happened and the system cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recovered. Close the session and try again.&quot; This happens with every
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot on both machines.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should I open bugs? Ideas on how to correct the 3rd problem?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Alejandro,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yes, you should open the bug reports here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you must use the account created in identity.mageia. for the 3d problem
+</I>&gt;<i> open mageia in failsafe mode, and start drakconf, you should find an entry
+</I>&gt;<i> to choose for autologin (i can't remember its name right now).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
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+
+As usual, I have burned a DVD and made an install of Mageia 3 alpha3.
+No problem but some improvements could be useful.
+
+Then, I have tried to read some various videos without any success with the
+default player. See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088</A>
+
+It is better with Dragon except than 16/9 videos are displayed at 4/3 ratio
+and some videos prefer to stop after few seconds.
+
+I have installed vlc which works very well for each type of video.
+IMO, vlc must be the default player when installed, Dragon, the second choice
+and totem, the last... or removed.
+
+--
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As usual, I have burned a DVD and made an install of Mageia 3 alpha3.
+</I>&gt;<i> No problem but some improvements could be useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, I have tried to read some various videos without any success with the
+</I>&gt;<i> default player. See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is better with Dragon except than 16/9 videos are displayed at 4/3 ratio
+</I>&gt;<i> and some videos prefer to stop after few seconds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have installed vlc which works very well for each type of video.
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, vlc must be the default player when installed, Dragon, the second
+</I>&gt;<i> choice
+</I>&gt;<i> and totem, the last... or removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Totem is using gstreamer so you might have a look on gstreamer plugins
+installed.
+Dragon is using phonon &amp; by default phonon-gstreamer (so it should face the
+same issue as totem), but it can also use phonon-vlc (which should provide
+the same support as vlc).
+
+Regards,
+--
+Balcaen John
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+ <B>Pierre Jarillon</B>
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+
+An option allows to see the file trees but not to see their contents. In
+consequence, it is difficult to identify the installed systems and a big mistake
+can be easily done when several are present.
+
+However, the installer has already indentified the installed systems.
+A great improvement could be done if the distro name is given when the
+partitions are selected.
+Diskdrake displays already the partition size. It should be possible to add
+the name of the system when a system is installed on this partition. Exemples:
+Mageia 1, Mageia 2, Cauldron, Mandriva 10.2.
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+&gt;<i> Then, I have tried to read some various videos without any success with the
+</I>&gt;<i> default player. See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8088</A>
+</I>
+added the requires, please test
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+ <B>Papoteur</B>
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+&gt;<i> During installation, it is possible to use old partitions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An option allows to see the file trees but not to see their contents. In
+</I>&gt;<i> consequence, it is difficult to identify the installed systems and a big mistake
+</I>&gt;<i> can be easily done when several are present.
+</I> From the screen visible in the documentation :
+<A HREF="http://doc.mageia.org/installer/2/fr/content/diskdrake.html">http://doc.mageia.org/installer/2/fr/content/diskdrake.html</A>
+
+you can access the content of the existing partition (button Voir, not
+visible in the screenshot in English version)
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, the installer has already indentified the installed systems.
+</I>&gt;<i> A great improvement could be done if the distro name is given when the
+</I>&gt;<i> partitions are selected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Diskdrake displays already the partition size. It should be possible to add
+</I>&gt;<i> the name of the system when a system is installed on this partition. Exemples:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, Mageia 2, Cauldron, Mandriva 10.2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good idea.
+Papoteur
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Eeek! Somehow, I closed Klipper during one of my sessions and when I
+reboot it doesn't show on the taskbar. I've looked at the configuration
+and there is nowhere I can &quot;check&quot; to have it start at boot up, and
+Klipper does not have any mouse right-click menu either.
+
+How do I get Klipper to start at every bootup for the system, and not
+just my account? I have to start Klipper by hand at every bootup (not
+that this happens often ... I don't usually turn off my computer).
+
+Thanks for any help.
+
+Marc
+
+
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+ <B>Cleiton Lima</B>
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+<PRE>If you use KDE, on system-settings there's a option to add applications to autostart on login.
+
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+
+&gt;<i>Eeek! Somehow, I closed Klipper during one of my sessions and when I
+</I>&gt;<i>reboot it doesn't show on the taskbar. I've looked at the configuration
+</I>&gt;<i>and there is nowhere I can &quot;check&quot; to have it start at boot up, and
+</I>&gt;<i>Klipper does not have any mouse right-click menu either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>How do I get Klipper to start at every bootup for the system, and not
+</I>&gt;<i>just my account? I have to start Klipper by hand at every bootup (not
+</I>&gt;<i>that this happens often ... I don't usually turn off my computer).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Thanks for any help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>--
+</I>&gt;<i>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;<i>parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Cleiton,
+
+Yup, but that is only for one account, I need Klipper on for the system.
+I have more accounts on the box and would like any other new account to
+have an active Klipper as well.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+Le 2012-11-18 07:50, Cleiton Lima a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If you use KDE, on system-settings there's a option to add applications to autostart on login.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Eeek! Somehow, I closed Klipper during one of my sessions and when I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reboot it doesn't show on the taskbar. I've looked at the configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and there is nowhere I can &quot;check&quot; to have it start at boot up, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Klipper does not have any mouse right-click menu either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How do I get Klipper to start at every bootup for the system, and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just my account? I have to start Klipper by hand at every bootup (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that this happens often ... I don't usually turn off my computer).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for any help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
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+ <B>cleitonlima at lavabit.com</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot">cleitonlima at lavabit.com
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+ <I>Sun Nov 18 20:34:48 CET 2012</I>
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+
+Just copy the Klipper desktop file from /usr/share/applications/kde4 to
+/etc/xdg/autostart. Of course you have to be root to do that.
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Cleiton,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, but that is only for one account, I need Klipper on for the system.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have more accounts on the box and would like any other new account to
+</I>&gt;<i> have an active Klipper as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2012-11-18 07:50, Cleiton Lima a &#195;&#169;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you use KDE, on system-settings there's a option to add applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to autostart on login.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Eeek! Somehow, I closed Klipper during one of my sessions and when I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reboot it doesn't show on the taskbar. I've looked at the configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and there is nowhere I can &quot;check&quot; to have it start at boot up, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Klipper does not have any mouse right-click menu either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How do I get Klipper to start at every bootup for the system, and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just my account? I have to start Klipper by hand at every bootup (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that this happens often ... I don't usually turn off my computer).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for any help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+ <B>Glen Ogilvie</B>
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+
+Been trying to get pulseaudio to do what I want in a multiseat
+configuration.
+
+I have multiseat X working correctly, and both users are in the same room,
+so would like
+the sound for both users to come out my single set of speakers. I have
+however,
+been having some trouble getting pulseaudio/ConsoleKit/policykit to do what
+I want.
+
+Has anyone setup something like this before in Mageia 2?
+
+My current problem is, that whoever logs in first gets the sound card, and
+the
+other user gets a pulseaudio dummy server. I have found a few different
+blog posts, some recommending running pulseaudio --system. This however
+seems more difficult than it should be, and when I try, I get the error:
+
+Failed to acquire org.pulseaudio.Server:
+org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection &quot;:1.683&quot; is not allowed
+to own the service &quot;org.pulseaudio.Server&quot; due to security policies in the
+configuration file
+
+I think this is because I might need to add something to
+/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/
+
+but, I am not sure exactly what, or how this works.
+
+Suggestions would be welcome.
+
+Regards
+Glen Ogilvie
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+
+Le 2012-11-18 14:34, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cleitonlima at lavabit.com</A>
+a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hum, ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just copy the Klipper desktop file from /usr/share/applications/kde4 to
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/xdg/autostart. Of course you have to be root to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Cleiton,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yup, but that is only for one account, I need Klipper on for the system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have more accounts on the box and would like any other new account to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have an active Klipper as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2012-11-18 07:50, Cleiton Lima a &#195;&#169;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you use KDE, on system-settings there's a option to add applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to autostart on login.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Eeek! Somehow, I closed Klipper during one of my sessions and when I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reboot it doesn't show on the taskbar. I've looked at the configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and there is nowhere I can &quot;check&quot; to have it start at boot up, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Klipper does not have any mouse right-click menu either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How do I get Klipper to start at every bootup for the system, and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just my account? I have to start Klipper by hand at every bootup (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that this happens often ... I don't usually turn off my computer).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for any help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc Par&#195;&#169;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
+
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+ <B>Fred James</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available">fredjame at fredjame.cnc.net
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+ <I>Wed Nov 21 00:54:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Boring! What is boring?
+ Download ... burn ... boot ... fail
+That is boring.
+ Live DVD and CD as well, both GNOME and KDE4 versions
+I do hope your final release will support known hardware.
+Regards
+Fred James
+PS: My machine runs Mageia 2, KDE4 ... GNOME won't display ... sigh
+
+Anne Nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally it's done, alpha3 is out. See announcement on Mageia blog:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alpha-3/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alpha-3/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said, your feedbacks are needed especially for hardware support and
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade from Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks all for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enjoy!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+
+&gt;<i> Boring! What is boring?
+</I>&gt;<i> Download ... burn ... boot ... fail
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Can you be more descriptive ? saying that doesn't help us much to know what
+is your problem. Doesn't the live cd display the boot menu ? or don't get
+video after you choose one of the boot options ? do you see any error
+messages while booting ? etc, you get the idea. Please tell us more about
+the problem.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> That is boring.
+</I>&gt;<i> Live DVD and CD as well, both GNOME and KDE4 versions
+</I>&gt;<i> I do hope your final release will support known hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I had problems too with the KDE LiveDVD and the dualarch CD with a Dell
+Vostro 3750, here're the bug reports:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8145">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8145</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8147">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8147</A>
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Fred James
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: My machine runs Mageia 2, KDE4 ... GNOME won't display ... sigh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Finally it's done, alpha3 is out. See announcement on Mageia blog:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/**2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-**">http://blog.mageia.org/en/**2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-**</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patres-for-mageia-3-alpha-3/&lt;<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alpha-3/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alpha-3/</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As said, your feedbacks are needed especially for hardware support and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade from Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks all for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Enjoy!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> Boring! What is boring?
+</I>&gt;<i> Download ... burn ... boot ... fail
+</I>&gt;<i> That is boring.
+</I>&gt;<i> Live DVD and CD as well, both GNOME and KDE4 versions
+</I>&gt;<i> I do hope your final release will support known hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Fred James
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: My machine runs Mageia 2, KDE4 ... GNOME won't display ... sigh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Finally it's done, alpha3 is out. See announcement on Mageia blog:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alph">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/11/14/send-bugs-ad-patres-for-mageia-3-alph</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a-3/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As said, your feedbacks are needed especially for hardware support and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade from Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks all for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Enjoy!
+</I>
+Did you file a descriptive bug report, after all thats one of the reasons why
+we release ALPHA versions. If there were no bugs then it would be a full
+version release ;)
+John (Led43_xxx)
+--
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+
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+he was going to blow them up !
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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+<PRE>Op maandag 19 november 2012 22:33:23 schreef Glen Ogilvie:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Been trying to get pulseaudio to do what I want in a multiseat
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have multiseat X working correctly, and both users are in the same room,
+</I>&gt;<i> so would like
+</I>&gt;<i> the sound for both users to come out my single set of speakers. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> however,
+</I>&gt;<i> been having some trouble getting pulseaudio/ConsoleKit/policykit to do what
+</I>&gt;<i> I want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone setup something like this before in Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My current problem is, that whoever logs in first gets the sound card, and
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> other user gets a pulseaudio dummy server. I have found a few different
+</I>&gt;<i> blog posts, some recommending running pulseaudio --system. This however
+</I>&gt;<i> seems more difficult than it should be, and when I try, I get the error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failed to acquire org.pulseaudio.Server:
+</I>&gt;<i> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection &quot;:1.683&quot; is not allowed
+</I>&gt;<i> to own the service &quot;org.pulseaudio.Server&quot; due to security policies in the
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is because I might need to add something to
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but, I am not sure exactly what, or how this works.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggestions would be welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+this likely is not the same thing, but i have multiple sessions on this
+machine and only the active one gets audio, and it switches when you switch
+vt.
+
+maybe it's more related to the determining of active session? (i assume with
+multiseat, you mean you have 2 screens, 2 keybs, 2 mouse, and 2 soundcards? or
+maybe one? with multiple devices? or have you set up alsa to use dmix? so that
+multiple pulseaudio servers will actually get a valid soundcard?
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+<PRE>As a long-time Mandrake/Mandriva user I have been lurking on this list
+since it started. I have now installed Mageia for the first time on my
+new computer and am running into lots of little issue.
+
+For many years I used FVWM2, but in Mandriva 2011 I switched to Metisse,
+and decided I quite liked it. Unfortunately metisse seems to have
+died. I tried KDE and Gnome on Mageia but don't really like them, so I
+decided to go back to fvwm2 - along with all my customisations from
+times past.
+
+In trying to update my old config file to work with the newer system I
+checked out the PipeRead command in the official config file where it
+calls the &quot;xdg_menu&quot; command. I tried it out on the command line to see
+what output it produced and found quite a few errors:
+
+/usr/bin/xdg_menu --format fvwm2 --charset UTF-8
+
+WARNING: '/etc/xdg/kde/menus/kde-settings.menu' does not exist
+WARNING: '/etc/xdg/kde/menus/kde-information.menu' does not exist
+WARNING: '/etc/xdg/kde/menus/kde-settings.menu' does not exist
+WARNING: '/etc/xdg/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu' does not exist
+Unknown 'Layout':
+ 'HASH(0x20e2310) 0
+ Menuname ARRAY(0x20e2460) 0
+ Menuname ARRAY(0x20e2550) 0
+ Menuname ARRAY(0x20e2640) 0
+
+
+So, is xdg_menu still valid, or is it broken? Is it still usable as
+designed, or do I need to find another way to do this?
+
+
+Brian.
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+ <B>Luca Olivetti</B>
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+<PRE>Al 21/10/2012 0:26, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> For any file system where you want the boot to continue, instead of dropping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to a shell, add the nofail option in /etc/fstab.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> noted for next time
+</I>
+Well, I needed this advice today, since, out of the blue, it stopped
+mounting my ntfs partitions and dropped me to a shell.
+I added the nofail option and rebooted, this time it didn't drop me to a
+shell but still couldn't mount those partitions.
+Trying to mount them manually it complained that the partition was
+already exclusively opened (?), and, in fact, mount showed them as
+mounted (but they weren't).
+It turns out that I had to unmount them even if they weren't really
+mounted (using &quot;umount&quot;, &quot;systemctl stop mnt-win_d mount&quot; did nothing)
+and then I could mount them with no errors.
+
+I have some questions here:
+
+1) why did it happen? (I blame systemd, but then I'm biased against
+anything coming from the mastermind behind pulseaudio)
+
+2) why &quot;mount&quot; listed them as mounted
+
+3) why &quot;mount&quot; lists virtual partitions (dev, usb, etc.) a bazillion
+times? (it also showed a vfat partition mounted twice).
+
+TIA.
+
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+<PRE>Al 29/11/12 06:58, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+&gt;<i> Al 21/10/2012 0:26, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For any file system where you want the boot to continue, instead of dropping
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to a shell, add the nofail option in /etc/fstab.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noted for next time
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I needed this advice today, since, out of the blue, it stopped mounting my ntfs partitions and dropped me to a shell.
+</I>&gt;<i> I added the nofail option and rebooted, this time it didn't drop me to a shell but still couldn't mount those partitions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Trying to mount them manually it complained that the partition was already exclusively opened (?), and, in fact, mount showed them as mounted (but they weren't).
+</I>&gt;<i> It turns out that I had to unmount them even if they weren't really mounted (using &quot;umount&quot;, &quot;systemctl stop mnt-win_d mount&quot; did nothing) and then I could mount them with no errors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have some questions here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) why did it happen? (I blame systemd, but then I'm biased against anything coming from the mastermind behind pulseaudio)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) why &quot;mount&quot; listed them as mounted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) why &quot;mount&quot; lists virtual partitions (dev, usb, etc.) a bazillion times? (it also showed a vfat partition mounted twice).
+</I>
+And now I realized that every normal partition (with the exception of /) is mounted 3 times, e.g.
+
+$ mount | grep '/home '
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+
+
+this doesn't sound right.
+
+for completeness, here's the whole (insane) output of mount
+
+/dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+none on /proc type proc (rw)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
+/dev/sda9 on /home/luca/extra type ext4 (rw,noatime)
+none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
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+securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
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+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+/dev/sda9 on /home/luca/extra type ext4 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+/dev/sda9 on /home/luca/extra type ext4 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+/dev/sda2 on /mnt/win_e type vfat (rw,umask=000,iocharset=utf8)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
+/dev/sda2 on /mnt/win_e type vfat (rw,umask=000,iocharset=utf8)
+/dev/sda3 on /mnt/win_d type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
+/dev/sda1 on /mnt/win_c type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
+/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+/dev/sda9 on /home/luca/extra type ext4 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
+sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
+binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
+gvfs-fuse-daemon on /run/user/luca/gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=luca)
+
+
+Bye
+--
+Luca
+
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+ <B>Luca Olivetti</B>
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+<PRE>Al 29/11/12 18:28, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+unt&quot; lists virtual partitions (dev, usb, etc.) a bazillion times? (it also showed a vfat partition mounted twice).
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And now I realized that every normal partition (with the exception of /) is mounted 3 times, e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mount | grep '/home '
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this doesn't sound right.
+</I>
+It turns out that during the semi-failed upgrade from mandriva, the post scriplet from util-linux didn't run, so /etc/mtab wasn't a simlink to /proc/mounts
+
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571</A>
+
+I don't know if this also explains the problem of the ntfs partitions or not.
+
+Bye
+--
+Luca
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?">andrewsfarm at gmail.com
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+<PRE>On 11/29/2012 01:40 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote:
+&gt;<i> Al 29/11/12 18:28, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+</I>&gt;<i> unt&quot; lists virtual partitions (dev, usb, etc.) a bazillion times? (it also showed a vfat partition mounted twice).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And now I realized that every normal partition (with the exception of /) is mounted 3 times, e.g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ mount | grep '/home '
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this doesn't sound right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It turns out that during the semi-failed upgrade from mandriva, the post scriplet from util-linux didn't run, so /etc/mtab wasn't a simlink to /proc/mounts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if this also explains the problem of the ntfs partitions or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I don't have the knowledge to answer your question, but I just want to
+add my $.02.
+
+Reading of head-scratching problems like this are the reason that, in
+nearly 11 years of using Linux, I never &quot;upgrade&quot; to a new release. I
+always do clean installs, with the exception of telling the installer to
+leave my /home partition alone. Believe me, I understand the desire to
+go the upgrade path, and I know the developers work very hard to make it
+possible, but the risk of problems is just too high for me. Clean
+installs have almost always worked for me first time, every time.
+
+TJ
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 29/11/12 19:01, TJ wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 11/29/2012 01:40 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Al 29/11/12 18:28, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unt&quot; lists virtual partitions (dev, usb, etc.) a bazillion times? (it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also showed a vfat partition mounted twice).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And now I realized that every normal partition (with the exception of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /) is mounted 3 times, e.g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> $ mount | grep '/home '
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=0)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this doesn't sound right.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It turns out that during the semi-failed upgrade from mandriva, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> post scriplet from util-linux didn't run, so /etc/mtab wasn't a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simlink to /proc/mounts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655571</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know if this also explains the problem of the ntfs partitions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have the knowledge to answer your question, but I just want to
+</I>&gt;<i> add my $.02.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reading of head-scratching problems like this are the reason that, in
+</I>&gt;<i> nearly 11 years of using Linux, I never &quot;upgrade&quot; to a new release. I
+</I>&gt;<i> always do clean installs, with the exception of telling the installer to
+</I>&gt;<i> leave my /home partition alone. Believe me, I understand the desire to
+</I>&gt;<i> go the upgrade path, and I know the developers work very hard to make it
+</I>&gt;<i> possible, but the risk of problems is just too high for me. Clean
+</I>&gt;<i> installs have almost always worked for me first time, every time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just to add another $.02
+
+mga2 -&gt; mga3 upgrade is now possible with the installer dvds, since
+Mageia 3 alpha 3. It is not yet possible with urpmi, an update will be
+needed for mga2 first to handle the /usr move. It might be something you
+would like to help test though. VM's or a spare partition are useful for
+that.
+
+Claire (MrsB)
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+<PRE>Al 29/11/12 20:01, En/na TJ ha escrit:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reading of head-scratching problems like this are the reason that, in nearly 11 years of using Linux, I never &quot;upgrade&quot; to a new release. I always do clean installs, with the exception of telling the installer to leave my /home partition alone. Believe me, I understand the desire to go the upgrade path, and I know the developers work very hard to make it possible, but the risk of problems is just too high for me. Clean installs have almost always worked for me first time, every time.
+</I>
+Well, I'm stubborn enough to go always for the upgrade path. In fact, I don't do new installs even when I switch laptops (I just copy from the old disk to the new disk).
+For new installs there's always windows ;-) (even though in the last few years linux has become more like windows, and I don't mean it in a positive way) and I had my fair share of problems with new installs too.
+I'm pretty sure that if I managed to upgrade from mandriva to mageia 1 then from mageia 1 1 to mageia 2 things would have worked quite right.
+Unfortunately the first step (mandriva-&gt;mageia 1) failed early on, and when I tried again I realized too late that urpmi had selected mageia 2.
+Even so I managed to complete the upgrade, and I'm confident I can solve the few lingering problems when they arise.
+
+Bye
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+On 29/11/12 19:01, TJ wrote:
+&gt;<i> eading of head-scratching problems like this are the reason that,
+</I>&gt;<i> in nearly 11 years of using Linux, I never &quot;upgrade&quot; to a new
+</I>&gt;<i> release. I always do clean installs, with the exception of telling
+</I>&gt;<i> the installer to leave my /home partition alone. Believe me, I
+</I>&gt;<i> understand the desire to go the upgrade path, and I know the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers work very hard to make it possible, but the risk of
+</I>&gt;<i> problems is just too high for me. Clean installs have almost always
+</I>&gt;<i> worked for me first time, every time.
+</I>
+In my 10+ years of Linux I've gone the upgrade path 3 times - and each
+time I've spent significant time trying to sort out the mess then
+doing a clean install anyway. From time to time people say &quot;but it
+works now&quot; which is why I've been tempted to try it, but it's simply
+not worth the effort.
+
+Anne
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I'm stubborn enough to go always for the upgrade path. In fact,
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't do new installs even when I switch laptops (I just copy from
+</I>&gt;<i> the old disk to the new disk). For new installs there's always
+</I>&gt;<i> windows ;-) (even though in the last few years linux has become more
+</I>&gt;<i> like windows, and I don't mean it in a positive way) and I had my
+</I>&gt;<i> fair share of problems with new installs too. I'm pretty sure that if
+</I>&gt;<i> I managed to upgrade from mandriva to mageia 1 then from mageia 1 1
+</I>&gt;<i> to mageia 2 things would have worked quite right. Unfortunately the
+</I>&gt;<i> first step (mandriva-&gt;mageia 1) failed early on, and when I tried
+</I>&gt;<i> again I realized too late that urpmi had selected mageia 2. Even so I
+</I>&gt;<i> managed to complete the upgrade, and I'm confident I can solve the
+</I>&gt;<i> few lingering problems when they arise.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&lt;Shrug.&gt; To each his own. Linux is, after all, supposed to be about choice.
+
+TJ
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+&gt;<i> In my 10+ years of Linux I've gone the upgrade path 3 times - and each
+</I>&gt;<i> time I've spent significant time trying to sort out the mess then
+</I>&gt;<i> doing a clean install anyway.
+</I>
+Abut the same experience here.
+
+I almost always do clean install, even new home, and then i just copy back
+mail folders, browser settings folder and such.
+
+Usually during the year i have cnanged my mind about how i wanto organise my
+files, whatis beatifyl GUI settings etc, anyway... :)
+
+But actually i am holding back on the machines I use myself because they work.
+Still running mga1 on my server &amp; my workstation, and my laptop mandriva
+2010.2...
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+&gt;<i> fredagen den 30 november 2012 12.11.17 skrev Anne Wilson:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In my 10+ years of Linux I've gone the upgrade path 3 times - and each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time I've spent significant time trying to sort out the mess then
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doing a clean install anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Abut the same experience here.
+</I>
+I fully agree.
+
+Keeping ~/.xxxx files can give unexpected behaviours.
+
+I use the attached script
+- before a new installation
+- or after an installation, just before the first graphical session.
+
+This could be included in the install process just before formating /
+
+WDYT?
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20/var/lock/tty%20on%20Mageia%203&In-Reply-To=%3C50B8F17D.1090606%40unige.ch%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch
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+ <I>Fri Nov 30 18:48:45 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I am having problems with utility programs that do serial I/O and use
+locks in /var/lock/tty (and they often require group ownership of this
+directory to be dialout (back in the past it was tty).
+
+In the past, it was sufficient to create /var/lock/tty after system
+generation. In Mageia 3 /var/lock/tty now disappears at each reboot,
+which breaks the locking facility of these programs (in Mageia 3
+/var/lock/ is a link to /var/run, which in turn links to /run)
+
+Is this design, a bug, a consequence of the run-dir support that comes
+with Mageia 3? I guess it is the last. What can be done to make these
+programs work again (they run at user level and do not have the
+priviledges to, at run-time, create /var/lock/tty with the correct
+ownership)?
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3">tmb at mageia.org
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+<PRE>Juergen Harms skrev 30.11.2012 19:48:
+&gt;<i> I am having problems with utility programs that do serial I/O and use
+</I>&gt;<i> locks in /var/lock/tty (and they often require group ownership of this
+</I>&gt;<i> directory to be dialout (back in the past it was tty).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the past, it was sufficient to create /var/lock/tty after system
+</I>&gt;<i> generation. In Mageia 3 /var/lock/tty now disappears at each reboot,
+</I>&gt;<i> which breaks the locking facility of these programs (in Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lock/ is a link to /var/run, which in turn links to /run)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this design, a bug, a consequence of the run-dir support that comes
+</I>&gt;<i> with Mageia 3? I guess it is the last. What can be done to make these
+</I>&gt;<i> programs work again (they run at user level and do not have the
+</I>&gt;<i> priviledges to, at run-time, create /var/lock/tty with the correct
+</I>&gt;<i> ownership)?
+</I>
+
+Add a /etc/tmpfiles.d/&lt;app_name&gt;.conf
+
+with the contents:
+d /run/tty 0775 root dialout -
+
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch
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+ <I>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 11/30/2012 08:50 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Add a /etc/tmpfiles.d/&lt;app_name&gt;.conf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with the contents:
+</I>&gt;<i> d /run/tty 0775 root dialout -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thank you, I did not know about tmpfiles.d (which even has a man-page).
+That is more correct than the quick fix I had done locally (append the
+creation to my /etc/rc.d/rc.local).
+
+There is one issue that is intreaguing: I had already seen, before
+posting my original mail, that sometimes /run/lock (sorry for the typo
+in that mail) is linked to /run, sometimes it is a plain directory -
+sometimes meaning one boot creates the link, another boot does not.
+
+Correspondingly, creating /run/tty sometimes makes /var/lock/tty exist
+as a link to that target, but sometimes leaves /var/lock/tty as
+non-existing since there is only the link /var/lock -&gt; /run/lock but not
+/run/lock -&gt; /run. Looks like a random bug.
+
+Juergen
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+<LI><A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008905.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
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+<LI><A HREF="008910.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
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+<LI><A HREF="008916.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
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+<LI><A HREF="008958.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
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+<LI><A HREF="008960.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
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+<I>Macxi
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008878.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
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+<I>Macxi
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+<LI><A HREF="008886.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
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+</I>
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+</I>
+
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+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008877.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008879.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008889.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008947.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8947">&nbsp;</A>
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008948.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
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+<LI><A HREF="008949.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008952.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008934.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Papoteur
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008922.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008918.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008920.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008923.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008935.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008898.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008902.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008951.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008945.html">[Mageia-discuss] FVWM in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Schroeder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008876.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jari Sepp&#228;l&#228;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008907.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008909.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008911.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008880.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008887.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008899.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008950.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008954.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008912.html">[Mageia-discuss] (for french people mainly) Mageia aux journ&#233;es du Logiciel Libre de Lyon les 17 et 18 novembre 2012
+</A><A NAME="8912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008933.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008871.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008908.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008896.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008900.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008903.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008953.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008875.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008885.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cleitonlima at lavabit.com
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:30 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>November 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 1 03:28:50 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 93<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008868.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008870.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008871.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008872.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bogdan CAZACU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008873.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008874.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008875.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008877.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008876.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jari Sepp&#228;l&#228;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008878.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008879.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008880.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008881.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008882.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008883.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008884.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008886.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008885.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008889.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008887.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008888.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008890.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008891.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008892.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008893.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008894.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008895.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008896.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008897.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008898.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008899.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008900.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008901.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008902.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008903.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008904.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008905.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008906.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008907.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008908.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008909.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008910.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008911.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008912.html">[Mageia-discuss] (for french people mainly) Mageia aux journ&#233;es du Logiciel Libre de Lyon les 17 et 18 novembre 2012
+</A><A NAME="8912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Steam for Linux Beta
+</A><A NAME="8913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008916.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008917.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008918.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008920.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Anyone here that feel interested &amp; that have time to.......
+</A><A NAME="8921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008922.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008923.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008925.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008926.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008927.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008928.html">[Mageia-discuss] EeePC 900 M2 install fails
+</A><A NAME="8928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008929.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008930.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008931.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008932.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008933.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008934.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Papoteur
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008935.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cleiton Lima
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cleitonlima at lavabit.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008941.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fred James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008945.html">[Mageia-discuss] FVWM in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Schroeder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Mageia still a new distribution?
+</A><A NAME="8946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008947.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008948.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008949.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008950.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008952.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008951.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008953.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008954.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008955.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008956.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will tyhe 'official Mageia-3 installer offer a GRUB-Legacy option?
+</A><A NAME="8957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008958.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008959.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008960.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:30 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>November 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 1 03:28:50 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 93<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008912.html">[Mageia-discuss] (for french people mainly) Mageia aux journ&#233;es du Logiciel Libre de Lyon les 17 et 18 novembre 2012
+</A><A NAME="8912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008958.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008959.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008960.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008941.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fred James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Anyone here that feel interested &amp; that have time to.......
+</A><A NAME="8921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008916.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008917.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008932.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008934.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Papoteur
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008928.html">[Mageia-discuss] EeePC 900 M2 install fails
+</A><A NAME="8928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008920.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008923.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008922.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008945.html">[Mageia-discuss] FVWM in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Schroeder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008947.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008948.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008949.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008950.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008952.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008951.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008953.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008954.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008955.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008956.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008898.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008899.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008902.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Mageia still a new distribution?
+</A><A NAME="8946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008930.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008931.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008933.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008935.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cleiton Lima
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cleitonlima at lavabit.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008929.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008871.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008872.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bogdan CAZACU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008873.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008874.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008875.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008877.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008876.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jari Sepp&#228;l&#228;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008879.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008880.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008885.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008889.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008887.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008868.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008870.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008878.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008881.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008882.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008883.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008884.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008886.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008888.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008890.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008891.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008892.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008893.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008894.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008895.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008896.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008897.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008900.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008901.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008903.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008904.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008905.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008906.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008907.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008908.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008909.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008910.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008911.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008925.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008926.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008927.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Steam for Linux Beta
+</A><A NAME="8913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008918.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will tyhe 'official Mageia-3 installer offer a GRUB-Legacy option?
+</A><A NAME="8957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:30 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>November 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 1 03:28:50 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 30 23:28:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 93<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01351736930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008868.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01351736930-01351739515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01351736930-01351758013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008870.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008878.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008881.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370-01351859502- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008882.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370-01351859502-01351860005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008883.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370-01351859502-01351860005-01351860144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008884.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370-01351862916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008886.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351736930-01351758013-01351857751-01351859370-01351862916-01351867150- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008888.html">[Mageia-discuss] news about Mageia in German language
+</A><A NAME="8888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01351782249- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008871.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01351782249-01351782610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008872.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bogdan CAZACU
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01351782249-01351782614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008873.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01351782249-01351798689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008874.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01351854660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008875.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01351854660-01351855624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008877.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01351854660-01351855624-01351859120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008880.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01351854660-01351855624-01351862988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008885.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01351854660-01351855624-01351862988-01351863795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008889.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351854660-01351855624-01351862988-01351865412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008887.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01351854660-01351855888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008876.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jari Sepp&#228;l&#228;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01351854660-01351855888-01351858697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008879.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia under vmware ESXi
+</A><A NAME="8879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01351877283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008890.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01351877283-01351881925- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008891.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008892.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351897873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008894.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008896.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008897.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008900.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131-01352032538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008901.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131-01352032538-01352049907- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008903.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131-01352032538-01352049907-01352055184- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008904.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131-01352032538-01352049907-01352055184-01352060457- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008905.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01351877283-01351881925-01351890257-01351943481-01351948779-01352025131-01352032538-01352049907-01352055184-01352060457-01352060824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008906.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01351877283-01351881925-01351891018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008893.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01351877283-01351881925-01351899639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008895.html">[Mageia-discuss] problems with kmail2
+</A><A NAME="8895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01351986610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008898.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01351986610-01352002673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008899.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01351986610-01352002673-01352033347- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008902.html">[Mageia-discuss] In Mageia 1, wine 1.4 update broke sound
+</A><A NAME="8902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01352065236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008907.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01352065236-01352072707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008908.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01352065236-01352072707-01352075186- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008909.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01352065236-01352072707-01352075186-01352097769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008910.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01352065236-01352072707-01352075186-01352097769-01352145544- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008911.html">[Mageia-discuss] python2.7 and idlelib
+</A><A NAME="8911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Simon
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01352150258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008912.html">[Mageia-discuss] (for french people mainly) Mageia aux journ&#233;es du Logiciel Libre de Lyon les 17 et 18 novembre 2012
+</A><A NAME="8912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01352249286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Steam for Linux Beta
+</A><A NAME="8913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01352283507- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01352283507-01352286533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01352283507-01352286533-01352315268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008918.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01352283507-01352286533-01352315268-01352315879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01352283507-01352286533-01352315268-01352315879-01352322156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008920.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01352283507-01352286533-01352315268-01352315879-01352322156-01352370539- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008922.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01352283507-01352286533-01352315268-01352315879-01352322156-01352370539-01352386069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008923.html">[Mageia-discuss] FIXED: Re: Use of resources by TB on my main Mageia box
+</A><A NAME="8923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01352289932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008916.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01352289932-01352294618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008917.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01352289932-01352294618-01352393639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Concept store
+</A><A NAME="8924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01352335656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Anyone here that feel interested &amp; that have time to.......
+</A><A NAME="8921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01352700894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008925.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01352716781- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008926.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01352716781-01352718858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008927.html">[Mageia-discuss] software-induced hard disk sector reallocation problem
+</A><A NAME="8927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01352788613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008928.html">[Mageia-discuss] EeePC 900 M2 install fails
+</A><A NAME="8928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Neugroschl
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01352979737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008929.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 from scratch - problems
+</A><A NAME="8929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01353032082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008930.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01353032082-01353032357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008931.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01353032082-01353062034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008933.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Totem the worst video player?
+</A><A NAME="8933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01353033848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008932.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01353033848-01353090414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008934.html">[Mageia-discuss] During install, identify the installed systems
+</A><A NAME="8934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Papoteur
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01353242742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008935.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01353243033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cleiton Lima
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01353243033-01353247561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01353243033-01353247561-01353267288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cleitonlima at lavabit.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01353243033-01353247561-01353267288-01353420589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Klipper on taskbar after reboot
+</A><A NAME="8940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01353317603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01353317603-01353352151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Multiseat and pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="8944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01353455659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008941.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fred James
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01353455659-01353476231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01353455659-01353509281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 3 alpha 3 available
+</A><A NAME="8943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01353749650- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008945.html">[Mageia-discuss] FVWM in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Schroeder
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01353776626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Is Mageia still a new distribution?
+</A><A NAME="8946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354168718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008947.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354168718-01354210080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008948.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008949.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008950.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354216617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008952.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354216617-01354276255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008954.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354217650- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008951.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354273877- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008953.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354273877-01354283624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008955.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354168718-01354210080-01354214458-01354215714-01354273877-01354283624-01354291091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008956.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to mount NTFS partitions at boot?
+</A><A NAME="8956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354292660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will tyhe 'official Mageia-3 installer offer a GRUB-Legacy option?
+</A><A NAME="8957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354297725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008958.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354297725-01354305038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008959.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354297725-01354305038-01354314506- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008960.html">[Mageia-discuss] /var/lock/tty on Mageia 3
+</A><A NAME="8960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
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