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What often passes as a cultural difference is usually only a +</I>><i> matter of interpretation; especially where differences in the connotations +</I>><i> of words of different languages are not apparent. To take a mild example, +</I>><i> 'welcome' (to express appreciation for thanks) would be 'du jour', 'bitte' +</I>><i> etc, not 'bienvenu', 'willkommen' etc. +</I> +Actually the phrase is "You are welcome". This one is a good example +of something called "synonym". An expression which translates into +several different meanings, depending on the context. I learned +English in school and right from the start I also learned that there +are such synonyms in all languages. This is the main reason why such +things like Google translator more often than not make really big +mistakes. And it is the reason why German translations from English +often need a lot more words than the original text (I've been +experiencing that ever since I started to translate documents). + +"You are welcome" can be the reply to a "Thank you" or a greeting when +you enter a house. It can also mean that your participation in a group +or project is wanted and/or appreciated by other people in the group +or project. This is one of the most known synonyms. There other (more +local) expressions to reply to "Thank you", like "No sweat!" which +means "it is/was not a big thing to help". + +It is quite normal to hit misunderstandings because somebody uses such +a synonym, most of us are not learned translators. The more important +is it to refrain from using too many of those and rather use a clear +and precise phrasing of what we want to say. + +The essence of translating is to interpret the English language we are +using here in the meaning of the English language, not in the direct +translation of words (which could lead to wrong or sometimes very +funny translations, like "It's raining cats and dogs", an English +phrase for heavy rain). Or in other words: Sometimes we must interpret +meanings, not words. So, if somebody writes "yes" or "no" then the +meaning is "yes" or "no". Not the "yes" or "no" of your local language +but the "yes" and "no" as used in the English culture. Otherwise we +will run into misunderstandings or even conflicts all the time. + +(I'm sure that this could have been said in much less words - but as +the majority of us I am not a native speaker of English!) + +-- +wobo +. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: indirect request <---> direct request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008244.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: indirect request <---> direct request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8243">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8243">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8243">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8243">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |