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+ <I>Sun Dec 30 22:36:20 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 30 december 2012 21:17:38 schreef Ludovic V Meyer:
+&gt;<i> Except it does let 3rd parties OS boot, at least on X86, since the norm
+</I>&gt;<i> mandate it.
+</I>&gt;<i> And for arm tablet, no one reacted when Apple, Acer, Samsung, Archos and
+</I>&gt;<i> lots of others locked down their devices, so trying to argue that we now
+</I>&gt;<i> expect them to be open would not work.
+</I>
+actually, they didn't. you can root each of those iinm.
+
+this is about having a secure key hardcoded &quot;burned&quot; in the device, which is
+both stupid and annoying. because since apps need to be secured too, too many
+people have access to the root key. which means the chance of leak is higher.
+which means that your devices need to be thrown out when the rootkey is
+compromised or when it's deemed obsolete and a new key will be in place.
+
+the thing here is that since you buy a device, it's yours and you can do what
+you want with it. why would you give other parties control over your device?
+it's stupid. there needs to be a way as an owner to decide which root keys you
+trust or not.
+
+
+&gt;<i> And regarding using consumer protection channels, no one did anything to
+</I>&gt;<i> make anything move since one year despite being widely publicized on
+</I>&gt;<i> various blogs, so how is your proposal different ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Talk is cheap, if every people who proposed that ( for example, on slashdot
+</I>&gt;<i> or various foras where nerds are discussing ), someone would have started
+</I>&gt;<i> the work by the time. No one did, and that's because everybody that would
+</I>&gt;<i> be serious enough know this is built on wrong assumptions.
+</I>
+in the end talk is cheap and noone does anything about it. or rather instead
+of working together, all the companies who back the major linuxes decide to go
+down the easy route. (like subscribing into the microsoft program and using
+their root key...)
+
+[...]
+
+PS: please don't toppost.
+</PRE>
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