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+ <B>Lucien XU</B>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 12 novembre 2011 16:23:48 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> fredagen den 11 november 2011 13.03.10 skrev Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 10.11.2011 17:59, schrieb Lucien XU:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; :D
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Because &quot;heavy KDE&quot; is &quot;default KDE&quot;. I just want to start &quot;Default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; KDE&quot; a little bit faster.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then you should disable nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and maybe other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; services
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; via systemsettings, if you don't use these. If you don't want akonadi at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; all, don't use the clock plasmoid in the control panel, and remove all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; akonadi agents from the scripts that autolaunch them, and don't use any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kdepim application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good tips, i will try them on my old computer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is something that should be in the Wiki
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And maye a small helper app &quot;makeKDElean&quot;
+</I>
+And if I use KDEPim / Nepomuk ?
+Ok, I stay with slow KDE startup time ...
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+ <B>Aaron Mendo Andrade</B>
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+Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
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+<PRE>&#22312; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:07:19 +0800, Aaron Mendo Andrade
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>In consideration of usability and custom of the user,
+
+I would vote against the idea...
+
+I have never understood how to use Calligra....
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday, November 13, 2011 08:07:19 pm Aaron Mendo Andrade wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated into
+</I>&gt;<i> the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>
+I strongly oppose removing LibreOffice and The Gimp.
+LibreOffice is THE program to use for MSOfifce files.
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>Aaron Mendo Andrade a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the
+</I>&gt;<i> version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>Bad idea. Not everybody uses KDE. Libreoffice is desktop neutral.
+However, if you want, you can always install Calligra (if it is in the
+repos), and uninstall Libreoffice if it is installed.
+I don't know where Gimp comes in. Are you saying that Calligra has a
+graphic file editor like Gimp ?
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+ <B>Aaron Mendo Andrade</B>
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+Yes, Has a image editor such as GIMP, Krita is called.
+
+&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:37:49 -0500
+</I>&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aaron Mendo Andrade a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> Bad idea. Not everybody uses KDE. Libreoffice is desktop neutral.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, if you want, you can always install Calligra (if it is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> repos), and uninstall Libreoffice if it is installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know where Gimp comes in. Are you saying that Calligra has a
+</I>&gt;<i> graphic file editor like Gimp ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)</B>
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+First, Calligra is not that compatible with OOo or LibreO. The slides
+Calligra Stage made would become very funny when showing in OOo or LibreO
+Impress.
+
+Second, Calligra could not generate Microsoft office format file. The fact is
+that, there are still many people using Microsoft Office and
+OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It will add a lot of difficulties to us before
+Calligra solves all these compatibility problems.
+
+Besides, Calligra is still a nightmare for Chinese (or even CJK) users... The
+font processing seems to be problematic.
+
+I vote against this idea.
+
+
+Franklin
+
+andre999 &#26044; 2011-11-14 &#23531;&#36947;&#65306;
+&gt;<i> Aaron Mendo Andrade a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bad idea. Not everybody uses KDE. Libreoffice is desktop neutral.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, if you want, you can always install Calligra (if it is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> repos), and uninstall Libreoffice if it is installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know where Gimp comes in. Are you saying that Calligra has a
+</I>&gt;<i> graphic file editor like Gimp ?
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+I agree with LibreOffice do you have right about, but could we at least replace the gimp by krita in the KDE Mageia version?.
+
+&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +0800
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, Calligra is not that compatible with OOo or LibreO. The slides
+</I>&gt;<i> Calligra Stage made would become very funny when showing in OOo or LibreO
+</I>&gt;<i> Impress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second, Calligra could not generate Microsoft office format file. The fact is
+</I>&gt;<i> that, there are still many people using Microsoft Office and
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It will add a lot of difficulties to us before
+</I>&gt;<i> Calligra solves all these compatibility problems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, Calligra is still a nightmare for Chinese (or even CJK) users... The
+</I>&gt;<i> font processing seems to be problematic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I vote against this idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Franklin
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> andre999 &#236;&#182; 2011-11-14 &#140;&#145;&#181;&#192;&#163;&#186;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Aaron Mendo Andrade a &#168;&#166;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bad idea. Not everybody uses KDE. Libreoffice is desktop neutral.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, if you want, you can always install Calligra (if it is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repos), and uninstall Libreoffice if it is installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know where Gimp comes in. Are you saying that Calligra has a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; graphic file editor like Gimp ?
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 21:01 -0700, Aaron Mendo Andrade wrote:
+&gt;<i> I agree with LibreOffice do you have right about, but could we at
+</I>&gt;<i> least replace the gimp by krita in the KDE Mageia version?.
+</I>
+GIMP and Krita do not have the same goals.
+
+Krita aims at natural media painting (like Fractal Painter of old), e.g.
+with chalks, pastels, oil. GIMP aims at being a professional-quality
+image editor, more like PhotoShop or PaintShop Pro.
+
+GIMP is currently much, much more mature than Krita, and has more
+plugins and scripts too. Krita has some features GIMP doesn't, so there
+are times to use one and times to use the other, as with MyPaint and
+KolourPaint.
+
+Possibly Krita should be a preferred application for anyone who uses KDE
+(not me), or maybe kolourpaint, but GIMP should for sure still be
+available.
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> I agree with LibreOffice do you have right about, but could we at
+</I>&gt;<i> least replace the gimp by krita in the KDE Mageia version?.
+</I>I'm against. GIMP is standard, people use, know and like GIMP, people
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+<PRE>On 11/13/2011 10:07 PM, Aaron Mendo Andrade wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>
+I've never used Calligra, but I've used both OpenOffice/LibreOffice and
+The Gimp for years. Most likely, if your suggestion was followed I'd
+simply install LibreOffice and The Gimp from the repositories and ignore
+Calligra completely - just as I use Thunderbird and ignore Kmail and
+other email/newsreaders.
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+So I guess I'd vote against your suggestion.
+
+TJ
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+read it, but will have to rapidly replace it by a new (and bigger) drive.
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+Does somebody have experience with - rather re-installing Mga and
+Windows-7 partition - simply copying the corresponding file-system
+(piped tar) and then just recreating the boot sector - would be much
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+<PRE>m&#229;ndagen den 14 november 2011 09.37.33 skrev Juergen Harms:
+&gt;<i> The hard drive containing my system partitions is dying. I can still
+</I>&gt;<i> read it, but will have to rapidly replace it by a new (and bigger) drive.
+</I>
+Try to avoid writing to it as temporary faults may screw files up....
+
+&gt;<i> Does somebody have experience with - rather re-installing Mga and
+</I>&gt;<i> Windows-7 partition - simply copying the corresponding file-system
+</I>&gt;<i> (piped tar) and then just recreating the boot sector - would be much
+</I>&gt;<i> quicker, in particular for the windows partition? Any particular
+</I>&gt;<i> precautions to take?
+</I>
+Once i simply booted a live system, used dd to copy from old to bigger larger
+drive, then gparted to extend (not move) windows partition, and i think i just
+moved and extended home while deleting linux system and reinstalled.
+
+Using dd on the whole disk ( /dev/sdx (whthout number ) take the whole drive
+including boot sector and whatever.
+
+Of course you can dd to a file on a mounted large drive too, to make a backup
+as soon as possible and then from the file to new drive at later time.
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+ <B>Pierre Jarillon</B>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 14 novembre 2011 04:43:34, Aaron Mendo Andrade a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Yes, Has a image editor such as GIMP, Krita is called.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Krita uses more accurate colors than Gimp (16 bits/8 bits) and is a good
+product. However, replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra is a bad idea.
+
+--
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+<PRE>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> m&#229;ndagen den 14 november 2011 09.37.33 skrev Juergen Harms:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The hard drive containing my system partitions is dying. I can still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> read it, but will have to rapidly replace it by a new (and bigger) drive.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try to avoid writing to it as temporary faults may screw files up....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Does somebody have experience with - rather re-installing Mga and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Windows-7 partition - simply copying the corresponding file-system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (piped tar) and then just recreating the boot sector - would be much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quicker, in particular for the windows partition? Any particular
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> precautions to take?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once i simply booted a live system, used dd to copy from old to bigger larger
+</I>&gt;<i> drive, then gparted to extend (not move) windows partition, and i think i just
+</I>&gt;<i> moved and extended home while deleting linux system and reinstalled.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using dd on the whole disk ( /dev/sdx (whthout number ) take the whole drive
+</I>&gt;<i> including boot sector and whatever.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course you can dd to a file on a mounted large drive too, to make a backup
+</I>&gt;<i> as soon as possible and then from the file to new drive at later time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I've used a similar approach a few times on portables, to just install a
+larger disk.
+Booting to systemrescuecd (a live cd, <A HREF="http://www.sysresccd.org/">http://www.sysresccd.org/</A>), I used
+gparted to format the new drive (attached via usb), and copied the
+Ms-windows C partition, ensuring that it starts on the same sector.
+(Which produces an exact copy like DD.)
+Then I used gparted to copy (and resize at the same time) the other
+partitions (Ms-windows D + linux). (This does copy + resize in one
+step, so faster.)
+It is important to do it when not running from the old drive, hence
+using a live cd.
+(At least for swap and /; also /home if logged on to an account other
+than root.)
+
+After, I test-booted from the new drive, and if I wanted to, I resized
+the Ms C partition. I always use a D partition for data files + any
+programs that are supposed to run on Linux via wine, so usually there
+was no need to resize C. I usually set fstab so C is not normally
+mounted under Linux.
+I've done this with Ms-XP and -Vista, don't know if -7 would cause any
+problems.
+
+(I usually also use gdisk partition tables, with hybrid for Ms
+partitions, but that is another question.)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Thank you, that sounds good, is a &quot;thumbs up&quot; (my doubts were mainly
+with the &quot;making executable&quot; stuff and suspecting &quot;windows facies&quot;).
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+Before going to dd, I will try partitioning my new disk with gparted (or
+the Mageia ISO) - do all the disk layout re-arrangements I can think of
+and than copy individual file-systems with tar - should be substantially
+faster since it skips all unused space - for the windows partition that
+would give
+cd /media/windows ; tar cf - . | (cd /&lt;new-windows-path&gt;; tar xf -)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:07:19 -0700
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Aaron Mendo Andrade &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</I>&gt;<i> in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">BLU164-W5467C75FEF3CB2EA8C5A87C4C00 at phx.gbl</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated into
+</I>&gt;<i> the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>If Aaron wants a &quot;solid KDE&quot; distro, that is what Mandriva wants to be,
+according to its publicity. If he can wait that long...
+
+Doug.
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+<PRE>2011/11/14 Doug Laidlaw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:02:03 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:07:19 -0700
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Aaron Mendo Andrade &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; in &#160; &#160; &#160;Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">BLU164-W5467C75FEF3CB2EA8C5A87C4C00 at phx.gbl</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated into
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Aaron wants a &quot;solid KDE&quot; distro, that is what Mandriva wants to be,
+</I>&gt;<i> according to its publicity. &#160;If he can wait that long...
+</I>
+If somebody wants a &quot;pure KDE&quot; distro then he can easily replace
+&quot;external&quot; applications like LO and Gimp with their KDE equivalents.
+But Mageia is NOT a KDE-only distro and is not planning to become
+such. The installation media are filled with the most popular
+applications, individual wishes/requirements to be cared for after
+installation. LO and Gimp are 2 of the most popular applications for
+almost all kind of users. I'm a KDE user from the start (KDE1 with
+SuSE, then Mandrake Linux) but guess what I would install first after
+installation? LO and Gimp (if they would be missing on the media).
+This may be because my priority lies on function rather than looks, so
+I do not care for such &quot;ugly GTK+&quot; issues some people may have.
+
+BTW: I do not subscribe to the Mageia more integrated into KDE&quot; point
+of view. KDE is a desktop environment to be integrated into the
+distribution. So for me it's the other way round.
+
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+<PRE>On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Aaron Mendo Andrade &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I don't think it's a good idea to make the distro's default an application
+conceived for a particular desktop. What I mean is that Calligra is
+specific for KDE and not for Gnome. Neither LibreOffice nor Gimp are
+desktop-specific. So I vote for keeping LibreOffice and Gimp as the
+defaults.
+
+What prevents you from just removing those application you don't like
+(LibreOffice and Gimp) and add those that you prefer (Calligra)?
+
+Alejandro.
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+<PRE>m&#229;ndagen den 14 november 2011 11.00.16 skrev Juergen Harms:
+&gt;<i> Thank you, that sounds good, is a &quot;thumbs up&quot; (my doubts were mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> with the &quot;making executable&quot; stuff and suspecting &quot;windows facies&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before going to dd, I will try partitioning my new disk with gparted (or
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia ISO)
+</I>
+Try <A HREF="http://www.sysresccd.org/">http://www.sysresccd.org/</A> as andr&#233; suggested - it is my favourite tool
+too. Also the documentation, hints and links on their website are good :)
+
+&gt;<i> - do all the disk layout re-arrangements I can think of
+</I>&gt;<i> and than copy individual file-systems with tar - should be substantially
+</I>&gt;<i> faster since it skips all unused space - for the windows partition that
+</I>&gt;<i> would give
+</I>&gt;<i> cd /media/windows ; tar cf - . | (cd /&lt;new-windows-path&gt;; tar xf -)
+</I>
+Normally a good idea is to from inside windows first clean off unneeded files,
+
+Good tips see:
+<A HREF="http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15140/what-is-hiberfil.sys-and-how-do-i-delete-">http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15140/what-is-hiberfil.sys-and-how-do-i-delete-</A>
+it/
+
+<A HREF="http://www.howtogeek.com/62946/beginner-geek-simple-tips-to-reduce-disk-usage-">http://www.howtogeek.com/62946/beginner-geek-simple-tips-to-reduce-disk-usage-</A>
+in-windows-7/
+
+Ant the linked dools there to graphically see size of files, and the other to
+clean the system of unneeded files.
+
+Then defrag, and then fill unused space with zeroes for good compression using
+SDelete: <A HREF="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443</A>
+
+
+
+*** BUT In your case with failing drive i sugest not doing any of this ! ***
+
+
+
+... how did i end up giving support for a Microsoft product !? ;)
+
+( I just installed a Win7 trial just to update main board and SSD fiormware and
+play with eit, and Win7 really is a monster of needed updates, downloads etc
+so i ended up above 30 GB, now it runs within a 17 GB partition )
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+&gt;<i> The hard drive containing my system partitions is dying. I can still
+</I>&gt;<i> read it, but will have to rapidly replace it by a new (and bigger) drive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does somebody have experience with - rather re-installing Mga and
+</I>&gt;<i> Windows-7 partition - simply copying the corresponding file-system
+</I>&gt;<i> (piped tar) and then just recreating the boot sector - would be much
+</I>&gt;<i> quicker, in particular for the windows partition? Any particular
+</I>&gt;<i> precautions to take?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>For Mageia, I would just dd the old partition to a new one of the same
+size on the new drive. IIRC, all you need to adjust is the partition
+IDs and numbers in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/{menu.lst,install.sh}.
+Allocate the new partition by hand or using expert mode of diskdrake to
+have *exactly* the same number of filesystem blocks as the old. You can
+worry about expanding it later.
+
+The same should work for Windows, but you'll have to make similar
+changes in its bootloader config file (I forget the name). Again, the
+new partition must be *exactly* the same size. If you think you'll want
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+Well, now I understand it is preferable to have LibreOffice and gimp by default instead of calligra. Thanks for your atention.
+
+Greetings!!!.
+
+Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:53:44 +0100
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
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+On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Aaron Mendo Andrade &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
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+
+Hi all, I would like to see the next version of Mageia more integrated into the KDE version and so it occurred to me that is a good idea instead of LibreOffice and The Gimp replace by Calligra for the version 2 of mageia by then calligra version 2.4 will ready .
+
+
+What do you think?
+
+Greetings!!!.
+
+
+I don't think it's a good idea to make the distro's default an application conceived for a particular desktop. What I mean is that Calligra is specific for KDE and not for Gnome. Neither LibreOffice nor Gimp are desktop-specific. So I vote for keeping LibreOffice and Gimp as the defaults.
+
+
+What prevents you from just removing those application you don't like (LibreOffice and Gimp) and add those that you prefer (Calligra)?
+
+Alejandro.
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+Hello, Would it be possible make that urpmi detect if to run command or a run program to detect if you don't have it and install it? I think it's a good idea and makes a big difference to both users and developers of mageia.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello, Would it be possible make that urpmi detect if&#160; to run command or a
+</I>&gt;<i> run program to detect if you don't have it and install it? I think it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> good idea and makes a big difference to both users and developers of mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+this is the goal of packagekit command_notfound
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+&gt;<i> Hello, Would it be possible make that urpmi detect if to run command
+</I>&gt;<i> or a run program to detect if you don't have it and install it? I
+</I>&gt;<i> think it's a good idea and makes a big difference to both users and
+</I>&gt;<i> developers of mageia.
+</I>I sympathize with what you want, but the fact is that urpmi is not
+involved. You type the non-existent program name, and the shell just
+tells you there is no such file in the $PATH.
+
+Of course, you could write a small script to do what the shell does
+(search your $PATH), run the program if found, or launch urpmi if it's
+not, but you'd have to always use the script from the command line, or
+change the executable in every menu entry.....
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+&gt;<i> this is the goal of packagekit command_notfound
+</I>Thanks ! You learn something new every day...
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+<PRE>Thanks for all these comments. I am now mailing from my newly installed
+(yes: installed) system. It is worth while to sum up my experience:
+
+- Copying (tar) an about 15 Gb partition takes about 15 minutes (&lt; 1
+hour for the 3 partitions I needed) - much faster than any installing
+
+- Perfect for the data partition
+
+- I had some problems on details with my bootable Mga partition
+(/etc/fstab still had one partition as ext3 which I had not yet
+migrated, the new disk evidently is all ext4)
+
+- After fixing this, the copied partition booted nicely, execept that
+during boot I had persistently to wait for 1 min timeouts for the boot
+partition and the swap partition to &quot;become visible&quot; - maybe simply a
+question of UIDs (I used /dev/sd&lt;xx&gt;) - but that is where I gave up,
+considering that a fresh install takes less of my time (but I copied the
+entire user home directory, thus avoiding to do all the kde
+customisations - I have quite a lot to do).
+
+- Given this experience, I postponed doing the Windows partition - will
+try copying, but am sceptical. Thanks for your references, I still need
+to read them in detail. Copying Windows would be nice - installing and
+than loading the service pack and updates is -timewise - is quite a pain
+in the neck.
+
+Nevertheless, all work on the Mageia partitiondone, I lost no data: just
+celebrated this with a couple of bubbles!
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+
+Check it out at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org">https://wiki.mageia.org</A>
+
+Until now only the English wiki is online, other will follow soon.
+
+We did import all (or most) of the contents from the old wiki and tried to
+bring some structure into it.
+
+As you can see, there is almost no documentation for the end user till now but
+the documentation team will start changing that.
+If you would like to help us on that, just join the doc team in its meeting
+tommorow at 19.00 UTC in #mageia-doc on the Freenode irc netwoork.
+
+And please have a look at
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming</A>
+before starting to create pages on the new wiki.
+We do want to keep some kind of order in it...
+
+ee also the blog post about it on <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/</A>
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+Cheers,
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+Oliver
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+Excelent!!!, Thanks :).
+
+Greetings.
+
+&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-web at mageia.org</A>; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">council at ml.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:34:43 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After quite some work in the last weeks the new wiki is finally available!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Check it out at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org">https://wiki.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Until now only the English wiki is online, other will follow soon.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We did import all (or most) of the contents from the old wiki and tried to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring some structure into it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you can see, there is almost no documentation for the end user till now but
+</I>&gt;<i> the documentation team will start changing that.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you would like to help us on that, just join the doc team in its meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> tommorow at 19.00 UTC in #mageia-doc on the Freenode irc netwoork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And please have a look at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> before starting to create pages on the new wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> We do want to keep some kind of order in it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ee also the blog post about it on <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:07:00 -0500, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello, Would it be possible make that urpmi detect if to run command or a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> run program to detect if you don't have it and install it? I think it's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good idea and makes a big difference to both users and developers of mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is the goal of packagekit command_notfound
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2343#c10">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2343#c10</A>
+
+In it's current form, it is not safe to use.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:00:16 -0500, Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Before going to dd, I will try partitioning my new disk with gparted (or
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia ISO) - do all the disk layout re-arrangements I can think of
+</I>&gt;<i> and than copy individual file-systems with tar - should be substantially
+</I>&gt;<i> faster since it skips all unused space - for the windows partition that
+</I>&gt;<i> would give
+</I>&gt;<i> cd /media/windows ; tar cf - . | (cd /&lt;new-windows-path&gt;; tar xf -)
+</I>
+If you only had linux, and used labels on the filesystems, and in
+grub, that would be fine.
+
+Because you have w7 installed, the mbr should be copied too. As the
+drive is failing, you should assume you will only get one chance to
+copy it.
+
+I would install the new drive, boot from any live/rescue cd/dvd,
+and use dd to copy the drive
+dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=64M
+Of course, make sure the device letters are correct. :-)
+
+Then shutdown the system, remove the old drive (Never boot into w7
+with both drives connected, after the copy). and move the connector
+for the new drive to the same connector the old drive used.
+
+Then, confirm all file systems are bootable. After that, you can
+resize existing partitions, or add new ones, as desired. Note that
+you will have to resize the extended partition, if present, before
+resizing or adding new logical partitions. The gparted tool is
+probably the best for that.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>On &#916;&#949;&#965; 14 &#925;&#959;&#941; 2011 16:56:17 CET, Aaron Mendo Andrade &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aaronmen_se at live.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, now I understand it is preferable to have LibreOffice and gimp by
+</I>&gt;<i> default instead of calligra. Thanks for your atention.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings!!!.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i think that would be a good idea to have these KDE applications as default, but maybe not in mageia 2 but in 3 when hopefuly will be a real alternative
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+ <B>mammig_linux mammig_linux</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Replacing%20LibreOffice%20and%20Gimp%20by%20Calligra%20in%0A%20Mageia%202&In-Reply-To=%3CCAGvsKChfuEj9C2f5ik8N45JocTBj3T%3DK8WRn-y%3D8ACk_m7aXOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>I use Gimp ! I want Gimp !
+
+( sorry if it's not very usefull, but at least, i think it's quite clear )
+
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+mammig
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>On 11/14/2011 03:30 PM, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m wrote:
+&gt;<i> ... how did i end up giving support for a Microsoft product !?
+</I>
+Yes, shame on us - and a big thank you!
+
+There only very few things I just cannot do without windows (wine &amp; cie
+dont help):
+- download updates for my GPS
+- write firmware into a touchpanel display for my house automation
+- flash my bios (or can this now be done with Linux?)
+
+We should join those people in the parks to demonstrate for getting
+decent Linux apps for so important things (-
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+&gt;<i> - flash my bios (or can this now be done with Linux?)
+</I>
+From linux I don't know, but you probably can do it from DOS, and freedos
+can be installed on an USB key if you don't have a floppy drive and don't
+want to dedicate a partition to it.
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005825.html">[Mageia-discuss] BRe: KDE startup time
+</A><A NAME="5825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mammig_linux mammig_linux
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:09:10 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>14 November 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 04:07:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 35<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005852.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005853.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005825.html">[Mageia-discuss] BRe: KDE startup time
+</A><A NAME="5825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mammig_linux mammig_linux
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:09:10 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>14 November 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 04:07:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 35<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005825.html">[Mageia-discuss] BRe: KDE startup time
+</A><A NAME="5825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005852.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005853.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mammig_linux mammig_linux
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:09:10 CET 2011</i>
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+
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 04:07:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 35<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01321240039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321240039-01321240699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01321240039-01321240707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01321240039-01321241869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321240039-01321241869-01321242214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01321240039-01321241869-01321242214-01321263415- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01321240039-01321241869-01321242309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Weng (a.k.a. Franklin)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01321240039-01321241869-01321242309-01321243318- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321240039-01321241869-01321242309-01321243318-01321244333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321240039-01321241869-01321242309-01321243318-01321244731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01321240039-01321246126- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01321240039-01321278824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321240039-01321278824-01321286177- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01321240039-01321278824-01321286177-01321301680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321240039-01321278824-01321286177-01321301680-01321302913- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="5857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mammig_linux mammig_linux
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321259853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321259853-01321261462- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321259853-01321261462-01321263941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01321259853-01321261462-01321264816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01321259853-01321261462-01321264816-01321281001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321259853-01321261462-01321264816-01321281001-01321303103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321259853-01321261462-01321264816-01321281001-01321303103-01321304936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01321259853-01321261462-01321264816-01321293531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01321259853-01321281259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321259853-01321281259-01321288185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Copying system to new disk
+</A><A NAME="5851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321270596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321270596-01321273894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Replacing LibreOffice and Gimp by Calligra
+</A><A NAME="5842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321286738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321286738-01321286820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321286738-01321286820-01321287110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01321286738-01321286820-01321292974- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01321286738-01321287059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Make urpmi detect if you don't have a program and install it
+</A><A NAME="5849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321292083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005852.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321292083-01321292505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005853.html">[Mageia-discuss] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="5853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aaron Mendo Andrade
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321296430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005825.html">[Mageia-discuss] BRe: KDE startup time
+</A><A NAME="5825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 14 22:08:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 14 22:09:10 CET 2011</i>
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