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I am looking at this tonight. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> They are quite basic instructions on the old wiki, the new improved +</I>>>><i> wiki is being worked on now. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> In short, you need to be able to update from the Core Updates +</I>>>><i> Testing media which is not generally desirable so is disabled by +</I>>>><i> default. To be able to select Core Updates Testing as an update +</I>>>><i> media you need to use "expert" mode. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> To do so, as root, use: drakrpm-edit-media --expert +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You can then place a tick in the Updates and Enable columns for Core +</I>>>><i> Updates Testing. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You might get an error to do with a new msec/sectool at the moment +</I>>>><i> when you go to update, you can safely ignore it. Don't update with +</I>>>><i> everything from testing, just update the relevant hplip packages it +</I>>>><i> offers. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> When you have updated them, remember to disable the Core Updates +</I>>>><i> Testing media. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Hope that helps! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Claire +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Pong. :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Sorry for the delay. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I installed the HPLIP and it's GUI packages from Core updates (manual +</I>>><i> installation since the testing version of rpm was compulsory). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> However, when I print the test pages from systen-config-printer or +</I>>><i> HPLIP's interface, he still prints me a big black square. It does the +</I>>><i> same when I print a Writer .odt document. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> When I click on 'Cancel' to cancel the printing in the +</I>>><i> system-config-printer task list, it _does not cancel_ the printing. +</I>>><i> To do so, I have to press the 'Cancel' button on the printer make it +</I>>><i> actually stop printing. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Here are the links to the logs : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> HP-check -r -t : <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/QaBUKHzU">http://pastebin.com/QaBUKHzU</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> error_log and acces_log : <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ZjbJsPzG">http://pastebin.com/ZjbJsPzG</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The testing packages I have installed are the following, as you have +</I>>><i> told me : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> *hplip-3.11.7-1.2.mga1.x86_64.rpm +</I>>><i> *and +</I>>><i> *hplip-gui-3.11.7-1.2.mga1.x86_64.rpm* +</I>><i> Also could you please post the output of rpm -qa | grep hplip ? +</I>><i> These two are not enough, hplip has dependencies on at least these: +</I>><i> hplip-model-data +</I>><i> hplip-hpijs +</I>><i> hplip-hpijs-ppds +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I hope this helps. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thomas aka Skiper. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I hope this offers you some clues. +</I>>><i> +</I> +Hello again, + +As soon as I have a pause day (should be this thursday), I'll take care +of this and answer you. Hard times. + +Feel free to push the packages if they fix other issues. I may consider +doing a clean install of Mageia again if this is necessary, since the +issue is really very very wierd and unique. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5590">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5590">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5590">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5590">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005591.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005591.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ba753dd6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005591.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Testers%20needed%20for%20hplip%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4E913DC4.8050406%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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What can I +</I>>>>><i> say, we don't choose the reviewers :-\ +</I>>>>><i> +</I>><i> But still, this kind of review is still interesting, it hints to +</I>><i> issues that may seem "obvious" to the rest of us that are obviously +</I>><i> not. It comes down to who we build this product for, in the end. +</I>><i> +</I> +That's true. There is room for improvement in terms of online help +during installation. (Another distro is much better at this than us or +mdv.) + +>>><i> My favorite part is where he complains about the message "You must add +</I>>>><i> media": how would anybody know what to do with a button "Add media" +</I>>>><i> next to the message. :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> yes, that was funny, first he complains of no codec (likely patented) and then +</I>>><i> about no media sources, which would solve the first one. /o\ +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> But, as a (new) user, how is he supposed to know firsthand? Couldn't +</I>><i> the feedback and whole user flow be changed? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For instance, if the only action available to "No medium found" is +</I>><i> "Add media", why confuse him by asking what to do? instead of just +</I>><i> adding the media and asking a further, more to the point question? (or +</I>><i> doing something else more to the point in this context) +</I>><i> +</I> +His point about missing codecs does reflect a reaction which I suspect +would be fairly common. A better explanation of alternatives and +consequences would be a very good idea. Note that many (including +myself) for various reasons don't have a reliable enough Internet +connexion to download during install, so they may be reluctant to add +media at that point, even if they do have Internet access. + +It is ironic that he starts by saying that he has been pleased in his +reviews of Mandriva, but most of his criticisms seemed to be where +Mageia followed Mandriva practices. The tone probably being decided by +the lack of a successful install. + +><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-- +André + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5593">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5593">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5593">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5593">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005594.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005594.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fb6cba339 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005594.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwstM8O6txEv_rSmxqRG92E9AbRAaz3-%3DjjnbzFSoSnsxw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005593.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005596.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwstM8O6txEv_rSmxqRG92E9AbRAaz3-%3DjjnbzFSoSnsxw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 14:13:01 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5594">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5594">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5594">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5594">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 09:49, andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +><i> Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i> But still, this kind of review is still interesting, it hints to +</I>>><i> issues that may seem "obvious" to the rest of us that are obviously +</I>>><i> not. It comes down to who we build this product for, in the end. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's true.  There is room for improvement in terms of online help during +</I>><i> installation.  (Another distro is much better at this than us or mdv.) +</I> +Even better, an installation process that does not need (or needs +less) online help. + +><i> His point about missing codecs does reflect a reaction which I suspect would +</I>><i> be fairly common.  A better explanation of alternatives and consequences +</I>><i> would be a very good idea. +</I> +Question is, when one wants to listen to music, is it the best time to +inform her about issues regarding non-free or patented codecs? + +><i> Note that many (including myself) for various reasons don't have a reliable +</I>><i> enough Internet connexion to download during install, so they may be +</I>><i> reluctant to add media at that point, even if they do have Internet access. +</I> +More during install than afterwise? + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5594">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5594">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5594">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5594">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005595.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005595.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e89529404 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005595.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3Cj6s3ej%24leq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005599.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005819.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>TJ</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3Cj6s3ej%24leq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">andrewsfarm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 14:18:22 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005819.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5595">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5595">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5595">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5595">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/09/2011 03:49 AM, andre999 wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> His point about missing codecs does reflect a reaction which I suspect +</I>><i> would be fairly common. A better explanation of alternatives and +</I>><i> consequences would be a very good idea. Note that many (including +</I>><i> myself) for various reasons don't have a reliable enough Internet +</I>><i> connexion to download during install, so they may be reluctant to add +</I>><i> media at that point, even if they do have Internet access. +</I>><i> +</I>That's certainly true. I remember with Mandrake, back before I had my +broadband connection, that I would have to pick and choose the updates I +would install, and I had to think carefully about what I would download. +There were several things that I just did without. + +><i> It is ironic that he starts by saying that he has been pleased in his +</I>><i> reviews of Mandriva, but most of his criticisms seemed to be where +</I>><i> Mageia followed Mandriva practices. The tone probably being decided by +</I>><i> the lack of a successful install. +</I>><i> +</I> +I think he was looking for something new and different than the Mandriva +he reviewed before - not realizing that if that was what he wanted he +needed to stick with Mandriva. + +TJ + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005819.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5595">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5595">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5595">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5595">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005596.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005596.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a76bf67b5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005596.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4E91B0FE.2070303%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005594.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005597.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4E91B0FE.2070303%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 16:34:38 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5596">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5596">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5596">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5596">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/09/2011 08:13 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: +><i> Even better, an installation process that does not need (or needs +</I>><i> less) online help. +</I> +Please, no. You need to have really excellent and detailed help during +install, because install can be a scary time for users, especially if +the machine already has data on it, e.g. "what is clicking on this +button *really* going to do to my partitions ?". + +The goal should be rather that the user has less or no *need* to look at +the help. But it needs to be there for safety and comfort. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5596">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5596">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5596">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5596">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005597.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005597.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6fa66dc7f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005597.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3CCAAuOgCdkv5Zy%3DPL6%3DSpP7w%2BR0NQct5VapKUBsqv6%2Byu8a8LOwg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005596.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005599.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Bogdan CAZACU</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3CCAAuOgCdkv5Zy%3DPL6%3DSpP7w%2BR0NQct5VapKUBsqv6%2Byu8a8LOwg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">cazacu.bogdan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 20:58:20 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5597">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5597">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5597">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5597">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>If "you" (the user) have any experience with linux you should allready know +what the specific button would really do ;) + +On 9 October 2011 17:34, Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> On 10/09/2011 08:13 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Even better, an installation process that does not need (or needs less) +</I>>><i> online help. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, no. You need to have really excellent and detailed help during +</I>><i> install, because install can be a scary time for users, especially if the +</I>><i> machine already has data on it, e.g. "what is clicking on this button +</I>><i> *really* going to do to my partitions ?". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The goal should be rather that the user has less or no *need* to look at +</I>><i> the help. 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Now in my 14 years of +installing mandrake, mandriva, mageia the web has never been available +during installation. For some of those years it was dialup and in +later installs the network adapter was probably only supported under +windows. However, for the last five or six installs there has been +native support but the attempt to connect at the end of the install +has always failed. On booting the new system the network comes up +fine. + +Is this an area worth investigating? It does not really bother me but +newcomers might have their confidence shaken at this point. + +Len + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005820.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005599.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005599.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..70fb1bb22 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005599.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3Cj6t3s3%24qnd%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005597.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005595.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>TJ</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3Cj6t3s3%24qnd%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">andrewsfarm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 23:31:41 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/09/2011 02:58 PM, Bogdan CAZACU wrote: +><i> If "you" (the user) have any experience with linux you should allready +</I>><i> know what the specific button would really do ;) +</I>><i> +</I>But not every user is experienced. Remember, we all had to start +somewhere - why not invite new users to start with Mageia? Back in the +day, Mandrake had a reputation of being a good distro for newbies. +That's one of the things Mageia should continue. + +TJ + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005600.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005600.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f896bc44a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005600.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E9214D7.90206%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005598.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005602.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E9214D7.90206%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 23:40:39 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/09/2011 05:23 PM, Len Lawrence wrote: +><i> However, for the last five or six installs there has been +</I>><i> native support but the attempt to connect at the end of the install +</I>><i> has always failed. On booting the new system the network comes up +</I>><i> fine. +</I>I'd say it is worth pursuing. You should enter a bug report. I assume +you know that the network is actually up during the install, e.g. +because you're doing a network install. You would need to have a USB +stick or a floppy disk available during install. When you get whatever +error you get during the updates phase at the end, switch to virtual +console 2 via CTRL-ALT-F2 and type "bug". This will place a diagnostic +file on the USB or floppy called report.bug, which you should *attach* +(not cut and paste) to the bug report. It should contain the syslog, +which should itself contain messages indicating why the network failed +to come up. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005601.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005601.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c8a6d5282 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005601.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921696.9030802%40gmx.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005602.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921696.9030802%40gmx.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">n54 at gmx.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 23:48:06 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 07.10.2011 01:17, José Alberto Valle Cid wrote: +><i> <A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mageia-1.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mageia-1.html</A> +</I>I just want to say that the ATI video graphics adapter issue is really a +major thing. I had similarly istalling the first (and the second, and +the third..) time experience with the broken boot. + +Mageia is the only distribution I know and I experienced (I don't know +how about Mandriva, but I had tested dozen of distros before finally +picking up Mageia) with such issue that after the standard installation +on the default settings the system isn't able to start due to mysterious +kernel panic messages. + +This is also complained on this bugzilla entry: +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1884">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1884</A> + +Fix this in the next release is the must! + +So.. I can understand that a poor Linux user, who experienced this is +also trying to find such minor "issues" during the installation. + +With regards, +Kamil +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005602.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005602.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..15d8b351c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005602.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921777.7060403%40tarazed.demon.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005600.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005601.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921777.7060403%40tarazed.demon.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time">lcl at tarazed.demon.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 23:51:51 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5602">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5602">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5602">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5602">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 09/10/11 22:23, Len Lawrence wrote: +><i> I note from the latest posts that some people have unreliable +</I>><i> connections to the internet at install time. Now in my 14 years of +</I>><i> installing mandrake, mandriva, mageia the web has never been available +</I>><i> during installation. For some of those years it was dialup and in +</I>><i> later installs the network adapter was probably only supported under +</I>><i> windows. However, for the last five or six installs there has been +</I>><i> native support but the attempt to connect at the end of the install +</I>><i> has always failed. On booting the new system the network comes up +</I>><i> fine. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is this an area worth investigating? It does not really bother me but +</I>><i> newcomers might have their confidence shaken at this point. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Len +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Sorry folks, talking through the back of my neck as usual. I was +confusing native support for wireless adapters with ethernet support. +Linux seems to have caught up with the wireless world lately and I +have rarely had problems with ethernet except, as said, at install +time. The install network failure affects wireless also. + +The fact that network connection succeeds on subsequent boots implies +that the necessary drivers/modules are already available on the +installation disk. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5602">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5602">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5602">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5602">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005819.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005819.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d86ed169 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005819.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MANDATORY%20READ%20%3A%207%20days%20before%0A%20misc%20unleashes%20CERBERUS%20%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20111009092243.GB3972%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005595.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005820.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MANDATORY%20READ%20%3A%207%20days%20before%0A%20misc%20unleashes%20CERBERUS%20%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20111009092243.GB3972%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !">shikamaru at mageia.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 11:28:00 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005820.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5819">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5819">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5819">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5819">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:06:07PM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> You may know it or not, many packages have no maintainer. This is due to the +</I>><i> fact that we had no maintainer database when we boostrapped the distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Excluding perl packages (a lot of packages, all maintained by jq), we have : +</I>><i> 1118 packages with a maintainer +</I>><i> 4931 without a maintainer ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Full list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As a result, many bugs are sleeping in bugzilla, because the triage team +</I>><i> doesn't know who to assign them to. If we want our distribution to succeed, +</I>><i> this is a situation that can't continue. +</I>><i> +</I>[...] +><i> Packagers with submit rights can participate, but apprentices too, because we +</I>><i> really need everybody's help here ! If your mentor agrees to take the +</I>><i> maintainership instead of you until you get commit rights, tell him what +</I>><i> packages you want to maintain. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the following days, all your keyboard should see is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mgarepo maintdb set packagename yourlogin +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde, going to grab some packages +</I>Ok, I’m grabbing my packages there are quite a lot of them that should +disappear now. + +Though, I’m in the process of moving to another city atm, so I’m very +busy at the moment and can’t do a lot wrt maintainance of my packages. + +Hopefully everything will get sorted sooner or later, but I don’t expect +to have much time until christmas… + +Sorry for not announcing this earlier, but personal life got in the way +sooner than I expected :/ + +Please don’t hesitate to contact me by direct mail if you’re stuck on +some of my packages like Stormi did a few days ago, I read them (but not +daily) + +Best regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20111009/620ef5de/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005820.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5819">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5819">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5819">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5819">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005820.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005820.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..029ffdbc8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111009/005820.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MANDATORY%20READ%20%3A%207%20days%20before%0A%20misc%20unleashes%20CERBERUS%20%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20111009102822.GC3972%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005819.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005598.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MANDATORY%20READ%20%3A%207%20days%20before%0A%20misc%20unleashes%20CERBERUS%20%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20111009102822.GC3972%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !">shikamaru at mageia.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 9 12:28:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005819.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5820">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5820">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5820">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5820">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:22:43AM +0200, Remy CLOUARD wrote: +><i> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:06:07PM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +</I>><i> > You may know it or not, many packages have no maintainer. This is due to the +</I>><i> > fact that we had no maintainer database when we boostrapped the distribution. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Excluding perl packages (a lot of packages, all maintained by jq), we have : +</I>><i> > 1118 packages with a maintainer +</I>><i> > 4931 without a maintainer ! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Full list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A> +</I>Should be a bit shorter now +><i> Ok, I’m grabbing my packages there are quite a lot of them that should +</I>><i> disappear now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Though, I’m in the process of moving to another city atm, so I’m very +</I>><i> busy at the moment and can’t do a lot wrt maintainance of my packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hopefully everything will get sorted sooner or later, but I don’t expect +</I>><i> to have much time until christmas… +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry for not announcing this earlier, but personal life got in the way +</I>><i> sooner than I expected :/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please don’t hesitate to contact me by direct mail if you’re stuck on +</I>><i> some of my packages like Stormi did a few days ago, I read them (but not +</I>><i> daily) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards, +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Rémy CLOUARD +</I>><i> () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +</I>><i> /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +</I>I’ve taken packages I imported and plan to maintain, hop I didn’t forget +some of them. + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20111009/103efbdd/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005819.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS ! 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