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Mine is a multiboot environment with +</I>>><i> > several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a +</I>>><i> > couple of others installed. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are +</I>>><i> > Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I +</I>>><i> > should say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time +</I>>><i> > Mageia exists. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with +</I>>><i> > soprano- plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586) +</I>>><i> > - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586 - +</I>>><i> > task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch +</I>>><i> > - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with +</I>>><i> > soprano- plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586) +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly +</I>>><i> > my case but had enough to be considered helpful. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was +</I>>><i> > not installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not +</I>>><i> > installed packages, "never mind" I said. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I +</I>>><i> > happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had +</I>>><i> > this one: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Sorry, the following package cannot be selected: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586 +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Well, that was quite a progress. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update +</I>>><i> > attempt I did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so +</I>>><i> > good. Finally I could proceed with the update. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little +</I>>><i> > dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at +</I>>><i> > GRUB prompt with no errors displayed, just a word "GRUB". No reaction +</I>>><i> > on any key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not +</I>>><i> > even Ctl- Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing +</I>>><i> > Power Off button. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. +</I>>><i> > Plain dead system. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search +</I>>><i> > for a clue and get this: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > "Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a +</I>>><i> > few minutes." +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( +</I>>><i> > At the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular +</I>>><i> > system update. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to +</I>>><i> light the now infamous bug 2317 - +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have +</I>>><i> to be checked against. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to +</I>>><i> prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip +</I>>><i> through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will +</I>>><i> give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do +</I>>><i> report this if you experience it! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update +</I>>><i> from the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing +</I>>><i> the updated packages in rpmdrake instead. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is +</I>>><i> being worked on behind the scenes. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Sorry if you had a bad experience with this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> again, if there is bugs, try to confirm or give help. +</I> +Well, with the picture in hand I'd find it quite difficult to report any +particular bug. + +The whole thing involves to many steps to go through and to identify what +the problem actually was, and when, and what has happened. + +I still have an image of the partition with Mageia which was maid at the +point initial update problem manifested itself reporting a number of +files that cannot be selected. It would take me just several minutes to +restore it. I would not mind to do it to help. + +However, I would do it only if I know exactly what and at which point +would be in interest to report and provide being helpful to developers. +If you or somebody else would be interested to guide me I could do it. + +There are only 3 obstacles here. First I'm a GNOME user, so I know little +about KDE. Second, I've never used neither Mandriva nor certainly Mageia +before and know about them even less. And third, I'm going to be quite +busy next month, so there might be some delays in my participation. + +If all the above is OK, then I could commit to do it. + +><i> btw: with the grub issue it would be interesting if you could report it +</I>><i> and post the /root/drakx/install.log file in it. perhaps something odd +</I>><i> happened during the install. +</I> +I could report the file content but I'm afraid it would be of a little +value, since its timestamp is 2011.08.09 when the crash happened on +2011.09.20. So, the file contains only an outdated information. + +><i> btw: was it installed using DVD or liveCD? +</I> +Sincerely I do not recall. I did not pay attention to details at that +point, since all I wanted was to give Mageia a try. However I more +inclined to think it was a liveCD. + +The installation was simple. I just accepted all defaults, except the +location of / and location of GRUB installation. I installed Mageia on a +separate partition and installed GRUB on the same partition. My Ubuntu +Lucid was chainloding it. Typical multiboot install. It worked fine up to +the system update as I described. + +Personally, I suspect Mageia had trouble with the GRUB being installed +not to MBR but in its own partition. But this is a pure speculation. + +Another thing to mention. The first time I get the first complains while +trying to update the system was quite a long time ago, about over a +month. Since Mageia for was just a "test drive", I left it as it was. So, +yesterday's update was quite a massive one. If I remember correctly +something close to 350-400MB. + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005441.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005439.html">[Mageia-discuss] [SOLVED] Re: troubles with update ended with totally dead system. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5438">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5438">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5438">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5438">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |