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+<PRE>On 09/08/2011 02:30 PM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 08.09.2011 17:08, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/07/2011 07:43 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.09.2011 13:29, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No cauldron users with HP printers? Please guys, c'mon!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any feedback is really appreciated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> CC'ing -discuss for more potential feedback. Hope i got the header
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some information which may or may not be useful...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When discussing a printing bug concerning duplex printing with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> HPLIP folks, I was asked for the output of the command hp-check -t.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That output reported several missing dependencies, some from compile
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time, others from runtime. I was unconcerned with the compile time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ones, but when I looked using urpmi, all the runtime dependencies were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reported as installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I do not have the expertise to speculate on this. I merely report it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Checked this directly after updating. Everything is installed and found.
+</I>&gt;<i> Was that with the older hplip version? Could you please recheck now with
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.11.7?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, it was with hplip 3.11.3a. It just seemed like something you should
+look into. I had similar results with Mandriva 2010.2 and hplip 3.11.5.
+Did you happen to run hp-check with the older hplip before the update?
+Perhaps these unfound dependencies are unique to my machine somehow.
+
+My one and only Mageia install is being used as my production install,
+and I'd rather not take the chance of messing it up with packages from
+Cauldron. I probably wouldn't know how to get it back from a disaster
+without a complete reinstall - not a pleasant prospect.
+
+I'm *WAY* out of my depth when participating in these discussions. I
+appreciate your patience with me.
+
+TJ
+
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+<PRE>On 09/07/2011 09:09 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 07.09.2011 14:06, schrieb Doug Lytle:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Laserjet, Photosmart, Officejet, whatever HP printer, any feedback is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appreciated!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you could point me to a webpage or wiki that describes what needs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be done to move from a Mageia install to cauldron, I'll go ahead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and do that when I get out of work tonight.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should be it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=cauldron">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=cauldron</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can also use a specific mirror by using:
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi.addmedia --distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> url_to_your_preferred_mirror/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so for example if you'd use the ftp.mandrivauser.de mirror, it would
+</I>&gt;<i> look like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi.addmedia --distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And then i'd do an urpmi --auto-update --auto again and again,
+</I>&gt;<i> until it finally says: &quot;your packages are up-to-date&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But remember this may break your system, so i'd rather not do this if
+</I>&gt;<i> you use
+</I>&gt;<i> your box for production use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm considering creating a VirtualBox Mageia guest within my Mageia host
+and upgrading (?) that to Cauldron to try out this hplip. Would that be
+useful, or would it just confuse things? I realize there would be no
+danger to my host, but I was wondering if results of testing a driver in
+a guest would be compromised by the host driver.
+
+If it makes any difference, I'd be using the vendor's generic
+for-any-Linux VirtualBox 4.1.2 r73507.
+
+TJ
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+<PRE>Am 09.09.2011 02:45, schrieb TJ:
+&gt;<i> On 09/08/2011 02:30 PM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 08.09.2011 17:08, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/07/2011 07:43 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.09.2011 13:29, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No cauldron users with HP printers? Please guys, c'mon!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any feedback is really appreciated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> CC'ing -discuss for more potential feedback. Hope i got the header
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some information which may or may not be useful...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When discussing a printing bug concerning duplex printing with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> HPLIP folks, I was asked for the output of the command hp-check -t.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That output reported several missing dependencies, some from compile
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time, others from runtime. I was unconcerned with the compile time
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ones, but when I looked using urpmi, all the runtime dependencies were
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reported as installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I do not have the expertise to speculate on this. I merely report it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Checked this directly after updating. Everything is installed and found.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Was that with the older hplip version? Could you please recheck now with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3.11.7?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it was with hplip 3.11.3a. It just seemed like something you should look
+</I>&gt;<i> into. I had similar results with Mandriva 2010.2 and hplip 3.11.5. Did you
+</I>&gt;<i> happen to run hp-check with the older hplip before the update? Perhaps these
+</I>&gt;<i> unfound dependencies are unique to my machine somehow.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My one and only Mageia install is being used as my production install, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd rather not take the chance of messing it up with packages from Cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> I probably wouldn't know how to get it back from a disaster without a
+</I>&gt;<i> complete reinstall - not a pleasant prospect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm *WAY* out of my depth when participating in these discussions. I
+</I>&gt;<i> appreciate your patience with me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe it's the same issue like Remy reported on the -dev mailing list?
+hp-check, as you can see for a short time during it's running, checks
+for compile-time and runtime-dependencies. And the compile-time
+dependencies are not interesting. But run-time dependencies
+should all be found.
+Check with hp-check -r -t ;)
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+&gt;<i> On 09/07/2011 09:09 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.09.2011 14:06, schrieb Doug Lytle:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Laserjet, Photosmart, Officejet, whatever HP printer, any feedback is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appreciated!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you could point me to a webpage or wiki that describes what needs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to be done to move from a Mageia install to cauldron, I'll go ahead
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and do that when I get out of work tonight.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This should be it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=cauldron">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=cauldron</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can also use a specific mirror by using:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi.addmedia --distrib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> url_to_your_preferred_mirror/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so for example if you'd use the ftp.mandrivauser.de mirror, it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> look like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi.addmedia --distrib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/$ARCH</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And then i'd do an urpmi --auto-update --auto again and again,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> until it finally says: &quot;your packages are up-to-date&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But remember this may break your system, so i'd rather not do this if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your box for production use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm considering creating a VirtualBox Mageia guest within my Mageia host and
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrading (?) that to Cauldron to try out this hplip. Would that be useful,
+</I>&gt;<i> or would it just confuse things? I realize there would be no danger to my
+</I>&gt;<i> host, but I was wondering if results of testing a driver in a guest would be
+</I>&gt;<i> compromised by the host driver.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it makes any difference, I'd be using the vendor's generic for-any-Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> VirtualBox 4.1.2 r73507.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No real need to anymore, i've gotten sufficient feedback from Cauldron users,
+so this update can be pushed to updates_testing for Mageia 1, so QA and
+some testers can check it thoroughly for Mageia 1, and when this is done
+it will hit Mageia 1 as an normal update. But thanks for the offer.
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+Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> No real need to anymore, i've gotten sufficient feedback from Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> users,
+</I>
+I tried setting up my HP Laserjet P1006 last night. It pretty much
+failed. It's loading the firmware and plugin correctly though.
+
+Same type of errors when I was using Mandriva 2010.1 and 2010.2.
+
+Permissions to the usb device denied and seg faults on hplip.
+
+I ran hp-check -t and it pointed out that my profile didn't have the lp
+and lpadmin group, so I changed that, logged out and back in.
+
+I was going to do further testing and file a report when I had a notice
+that there were more updates, so I applied them. I was told I needed a
+reboot, so I did.
+
+Now, I am no longer able to get a desktop, X fails to start.
+
+I'll try a urpmi --auto-update --auto-select again to see if I can get a
+working desktop, if not, i'll try a reload and see if I can get some
+meaningful logs.
+
+Doug
+
+--
+
+Ben Franklin quote:
+
+&quot;Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;
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+<PRE>Looked everywhere on the /www.mageia.org/ site, and could not find a list of
+the .rpm that will be inclyded.
+
+Is there one ?
+
+Or can anyone tell me if the Calibre library management prog will be included?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
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+ when you have the whole government working for you.
+ -- Will Rogers
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No real need to anymore, i've gotten sufficient feedback from Cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried setting up my HP Laserjet P1006 last night. &#160;It pretty much failed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;It's loading the firmware and plugin correctly though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same type of errors when I was using Mandriva 2010.1 and 2010.2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Permissions to the usb device denied and seg faults on hplip.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I ran hp-check -t and it pointed out that my profile didn't have the lp and
+</I>&gt;<i> lpadmin group, so I changed that, logged out and back in.
+</I>
+I was told that too, but I didn't do anything and my user can still
+print, scan, aso.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to do further testing and file a report when I had a notice that
+</I>&gt;<i> there were more updates, so I applied them. &#160;I was told I needed a reboot,
+</I>&gt;<i> so I did.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I am no longer able to get a desktop, X fails to start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try a urpmi --auto-update --auto-select again to see if I can get a
+</I>&gt;<i> working desktop, if not, i'll try a reload and see if I can get some
+</I>&gt;<i> meaningful logs.
+</I>
+I guess your problem is the broken dbus from this morning's update.
+If that's the case, you are right: urpmi --auto-update will fix it up,
+since a non-broken dbus was uploaded later in the morning.
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+&gt;<i> Looked everywhere on the /www.mageia.org/ site, and could not find a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> the .rpm that will be inclyded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there one ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or can anyone tell me if the Calibre library management prog will be included?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+When you say &quot;will be included&quot;, do you talk about Mageia 2?
+I don't think that we already have such a list, though you can check
+which packages are available on Cauldron (the boiling future Mageia 2)
+on Mageia-App-Db:
+<A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/package/list/distrelease/1/application/0/arch/1/source/0?t_search=">http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/package/list/distrelease/1/application/0/arch/1/source/0?t_search=</A>
+
+And yeah, Calibre is there:
+<A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/package/show/t_search/calibre/distrelease/1/application/0/arch/1/source/0/id/21677">http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/package/show/t_search/calibre/distrelease/1/application/0/arch/1/source/0/id/21677</A>
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+<PRE>I've had USB permissions with all sorts of USB devices since 2010.0.
+
+On 09/09/11 12:12, Doug Lytle wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No real need to anymore, i've gotten sufficient feedback from Cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried setting up my HP Laserjet P1006 last night. It pretty much
+</I>&gt;<i> failed. It's loading the firmware and plugin correctly though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same type of errors when I was using Mandriva 2010.1 and 2010.2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Permissions to the usb device denied and seg faults on hplip.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I ran hp-check -t and it pointed out that my profile didn't have the lp
+</I>&gt;<i> and lpadmin group, so I changed that, logged out and back in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to do further testing and file a report when I had a notice
+</I>&gt;<i> that there were more updates, so I applied them. I was told I needed a
+</I>&gt;<i> reboot, so I did.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I am no longer able to get a desktop, X fails to start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try a urpmi --auto-update --auto-select again to see if I can get a
+</I>&gt;<i> working desktop, if not, i'll try a reload and see if I can get some
+</I>&gt;<i> meaningful logs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Robert Wood wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've had USB permissions with all sorts of USB devices since 2010.0.
+</I>
+2010.0 for that HP Laserjet worked fine. It wasn't until Mageia 1 that
+I was able to use my printer again!
+
+I tested with a beta of Mandriva 2011.0 and it worked as well.
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+Doug
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+<A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/default/news/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/default/news/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0</A>
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+On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:47:24 -0400
+&quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Looked everywhere on the /www.mageia.org/ site, and could not find a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> the .rpm that will be inclyded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there one ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The problem is that the packages installed on a common Mageia system is only a
+small subset of all the packages available for Mageia. This is true for most
+other Linux distributions out there.
+
+You can query the Mageia package database and search for packages here:
+
+<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/">http://sophie.zarb.org/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Or can anyone tell me if the Calibre library management prog will be included?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Even if it's not available, then it can be packaged for Mageia.
+
+Regards,
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or can anyone tell me if the Calibre library management prog will be
+</I>&gt;<i> included?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/package/show/t_search/calibre/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/id/21144">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/package/show/t_search/calibre/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/id/21144</A>
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+Yes, you can install it on Mageia 1
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 14:23:37 schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+&gt;<i> - Do we need PLF for Mageia?
+</I>No, there is no need for plf. Since Mageia is no company that needs to look
+after the leagl circumstances in countries it wants to sell its product,
+Mageia can provide those packages itself.
+They are in the so called tainted repositories.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Are there plans to have a mirror of the Mageia repositories hosted by
+</I>&gt;<i> free.fr? This would be great.
+</I>That depends on free.fr, not on Mageia.
+And what is the difference of a mirror by free.fr and a mirror somewhere else?
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or can anyone tell me if the Calibre library management prog will be included?
+</I>
+It's available in the official repos and I'm using it in Mageia 1, no problems.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+&gt;<i> Am 09.09.2011 02:45, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, it was with hplip 3.11.3a. It just seemed like something you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should look into. I had similar results with Mandriva 2010.2 and hplip
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3.11.5. Did you happen to run hp-check with the older hplip before the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update? Perhaps these unfound dependencies are unique to my machine
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somehow.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My one and only Mageia install is being used as my production install,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and I'd rather not take the chance of messing it up with packages from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron. I probably wouldn't know how to get it back from a disaster
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without a complete reinstall - not a pleasant prospect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm *WAY* out of my depth when participating in these discussions. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appreciate your patience with me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it's the same issue like Remy reported on the -dev mailing list?
+</I>&gt;<i> hp-check, as you can see for a short time during it's running, checks
+</I>&gt;<i> for compile-time and runtime-dependencies. And the compile-time
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies are not interesting. But run-time dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> should all be found.
+</I>&gt;<i> Check with hp-check -r -t ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, much better. This time it couldn't determine what version of CUPS
+was installed - said it couldn't find cups-config. It also couldn't find
+the optional CUPS DDK (Drivers Development Kit), but that didn't
+generate an error/warning.
+
+TJ
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+<PRE>On 9 September 2011 14:13, TJ &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andrewsfarm at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 09/09/2011 03:46 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 09.09.2011 02:45, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, it was with hplip 3.11.3a. It just seemed like something you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should look into. I had similar results with Mandriva 2010.2 and hplip
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3.11.5. Did you happen to run hp-check with the older hplip before the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update? Perhaps these unfound dependencies are unique to my machine
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> somehow.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My one and only Mageia install is being used as my production install,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I'd rather not take the chance of messing it up with packages from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron. I probably wouldn't know how to get it back from a disaster
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without a complete reinstall - not a pleasant prospect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm *WAY* out of my depth when participating in these discussions. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appreciate your patience with me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe it's the same issue like Remy reported on the -dev mailing list?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hp-check, as you can see for a short time during it's running, checks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for compile-time and runtime-dependencies. And the compile-time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dependencies are not interesting. But run-time dependencies
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should all be found.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Check with hp-check -r -t ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, much better. This time it couldn't determine what version of CUPS was
+</I>&gt;<i> installed - said it couldn't find cups-config. It also couldn't find the
+</I>&gt;<i> optional CUPS DDK (Drivers Development Kit), but that didn't generate an
+</I>&gt;<i> error/warning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I can test a Photosmart 2575 at some point, just its at home, and I'm
+not, give me a week or so....
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+the artwork team discussed to change the window decoration and abandon
+IaOra, because it is old-fashioned and it is a lot of work to maintain.
+
+Therefore, a new default window decoration is needed, which is available
+for all environments (KDE, GNOME, Qt, GTK+), well maintained and looks
+acceptable.
+
+As far as we know, Oxygen matches all these requirements. Oxygen exists
+for all environments with the same maintainers for it. Thus, we would
+like to discuss to switch to Oxygen as the default window decoration for
+Mageia 2.
+
+One disadvantage would be, that Mageia looses one unique feature, as it
+uses a &quot;generic&quot; window decoration. But it would also be a well
+maintained, good looking, up to date window decoration, which also
+supports special (KDE) features like the tabbing mode.
+
+Please let us know, what you think about. Most interesting are technical
+aspects, we might forgot, but also your &quot;feeling&quot; with it.
+
+Greetings,
+Thorsten
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One disadvantage would be, that Mageia looses one unique feature, as it
+</I>&gt;<i> uses a &quot;generic&quot; window decoration. But it would also be a well
+</I>&gt;<i> maintained, good looking, up to date window decoration, which also
+</I>&gt;<i> supports special (KDE) features like the tabbing mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let us know, what you think about. Most interesting are technical
+</I>&gt;<i> aspects, we might forgot, but also your &quot;feeling&quot; with it.
+</I>Isn't there oxygen-GTK exist?
+
+I've used the combination of oxygen and oxygen-GTK/GTK3 together with
+
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+&gt;<i> Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 14:23:37 schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Do we need PLF for Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> No, there is no need for plf. Since Mageia is no company that needs to look
+</I>&gt;<i> after the leagl circumstances in countries it wants to sell its product,
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia can provide those packages itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> They are in the so called tainted repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So I just need to enable these4 repositories. Goooood. Thanks.
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Are there plans to have a mirror of the Mageia repositories hosted by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; free.fr? This would be great.
+</I>&gt;<i> That depends on free.fr, not on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But someone representative could possibly contact them asking if they are
+interested... ;-)
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> And what is the difference of a mirror by free.fr and a mirror somewhere
+</I>&gt;<i> else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That Free is my ISP and I can access those files at high speed as it's their
+internal network (no need to leave to the internet).
+
+When updating my old Mandriva installation (Mandriva repositories are
+mirrored by Free) I use to reach the bandwidth limit of my connection. When
+I moved to Mageia (used the urpmi method) it took me the whole night to
+upgrade while with Mandriva it used to take a few hours. Of course I won't
+die because of this, but it would be good to have it, not only for me, but
+also for a few millons french people.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 14:23:37 schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - Do we need PLF for Mageia?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, there is no need for plf. Since Mageia is no company that needs to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> look
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after the leagl circumstances in countries it wants to sell its product,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia can provide those packages itself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They are in the so called tainted repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I just need to enable these4 repositories. Goooood. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - Are there plans to have a mirror of the Mageia repositories hosted by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; free.fr? This would be great.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That depends on free.fr, not on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But someone representative could possibly contact them asking if they are
+</I>&gt;<i> interested... ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And what is the difference of a mirror by free.fr and a mirror somewhere
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That Free is my ISP and I can access those files at high speed as it's their
+</I>&gt;<i> internal network (no need to leave to the internet).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When updating my old Mandriva installation (Mandriva repositories are
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrored by Free) I use to reach the bandwidth limit of my connection. When
+</I>&gt;<i> I moved to Mageia (used the urpmi method) it took me the whole night to
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade while with Mandriva it used to take a few hours. Of course I won't
+</I>&gt;<i> die because of this, but it would be good to have it, not only for me, but
+</I>&gt;<i> also for a few millons french people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>
+Which mirror did you use for the upgrade?
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+<PRE>Le 09/09/2011 14:23, Alejandro L&#243;pez a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm new to Mageia (previously Mandriva) and I have a few questions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Do we need PLF for Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Are there plans to have a mirror of the Mageia repositories hosted
+</I>&gt;<i> by free.fr &lt;<A HREF="http://free.fr">http://free.fr</A>&gt;? This would be great.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>PLF for Mageia is called &quot;Tainted&quot;.
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+
+&gt;<i> 2011/9/9 Alejandro L&#243;pez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When updating my old Mandriva installation (Mandriva repositories are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mirrored by Free) I use to reach the bandwidth limit of my connection.
+</I>&gt;<i> When
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I moved to Mageia (used the urpmi method) it took me the whole night to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade while with Mandriva it used to take a few hours. Of course I
+</I>&gt;<i> won't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; die because of this, but it would be good to have it, not only for me,
+</I>&gt;<i> but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also for a few millons french people.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which mirror did you use for the upgrade?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I didn't manually choose. I let urpmi choose.
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+<PRE>2011/9/9 Alejandro L&#243;pez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/9/9 Alejandro L&#243;pez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; When updating my old Mandriva installation (Mandriva repositories are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; mirrored by Free) I use to reach the bandwidth limit of my connection.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; When
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I moved to Mageia (used the urpmi method) it took me the whole night to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade while with Mandriva it used to take a few hours. Of course I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; won't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; die because of this, but it would be good to have it, not only for me,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; also for a few millons french people.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which mirror did you use for the upgrade?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't manually choose. I let urpmi choose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, then it might be worth having a look on mirrors.mageia.org and
+choosing one close to you then readding using that mirror.
+I find stud-esslingen to be very fast, so is nluug.
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+&gt;<i> Please let us know, what you think about. Most interesting are technical
+</I>&gt;<i> aspects, we might forgot, but also your &quot;feeling&quot; with it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Personally I think it's a great idea - I myself have already switched over
+on my Mageia install. The theme is modern, well tested and supported,
+supports GTK/Gnome Applications as well as native KDE/Qt applications very
+well. Being unique in some way is nice but I think a switch to Oxygen is
+worthwhile.
+
+--
+Kind Regards
+Danny R
+
+BLUG: <A HREF="https://basset.lug.org.uk/">https://basset.lug.org.uk/</A>
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+van Lil who wrote:
+&gt;<i> Please let us know, what you think about. Most interesting are technical
+</I>&gt;<i> aspects, we might forgot, but also your &quot;feeling&quot; with it.
+</I>
+Prefer Plastik myself.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ La sant&#233; est un &#233;tat pr&#233;caire
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+ -- Jules Romain
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+&gt;<i> Ok, then it might be worth having a look on mirrors.mageia.org and
+</I>&gt;<i> choosing one close to you then readding using that mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> I find stud-esslingen to be very fast, so is nluug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for this information. I'll make it my default for the next
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, then it might be worth having a look on mirrors.mageia.org and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> choosing one close to you then readding using that mirror.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I find stud-esslingen to be very fast, so is nluug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for this information. I'll make it my default for the next
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade/update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Its nothing, I hope that it fixes the problem.
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+containing a message from the command line, a file, or standard input ?
+
+TIA,
+
+Ron.
+
+PS That is the last thing keeping me from switching from Mdv to Mageia
+--
+ Neque enim lex est aequior ulla,
+ Quam necis artifices arte perire sua.
+ -- Publius Ovidius Naso
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+-----Original Message-----
+From: &quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt;
+Sender: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:34:54
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+Subject: [Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+
+Is there in Mageia something similar to xmessage, that displays a window
+containing a message from the command line, a file, or standard input ?
+
+TIA,
+
+Ron.
+
+PS That is the last thing keeping me from switching from Mdv to Mageia
+--
+ Neque enim lex est aequior ulla,
+ Quam necis artifices arte perire sua.
+ -- Publius Ovidius Naso
+
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+ <B>Shlomi Fish</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?">shlomif at shlomifish.org
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+ <I>Fri Sep 9 20:12:48 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Ron,
+
+On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:34:54 -0400
+&quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Is there in Mageia something similar to xmessage, that displays a window
+</I>&gt;<i> containing a message from the command line, a file, or standard input ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You can install xmessage using urpmi. xmessage &quot;foo&quot; works fine here.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+&gt;<i> TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS That is the last thing keeping me from switching from Mdv to Mageia
+</I>
+
+
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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+<PRE>Am 09.09.2011 13:12, schrieb Doug Lytle:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No real need to anymore, i've gotten sufficient feedback from Cauldron users,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried setting up my HP Laserjet P1006 last night. It pretty much failed.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's loading the firmware and plugin correctly though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same type of errors when I was using Mandriva 2010.1 and 2010.2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Permissions to the usb device denied and seg faults on hplip.
+</I>How did it fail and what were the exact error messages?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I ran hp-check -t and it pointed out that my profile didn't have the lp and
+</I>&gt;<i> lpadmin group, so I changed that, logged out and back in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to do further testing and file a report when I had a notice that
+</I>&gt;<i> there were more updates, so I applied them. I was told I needed a reboot, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I did.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I am no longer able to get a desktop, X fails to start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try a urpmi --auto-update --auto-select again to see if I can get a
+</I>&gt;<i> working desktop, if not, i'll try a reload and see if I can get some
+</I>&gt;<i> meaningful logs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well with a system upgrade only half to cauldron, you won't get good
+reproducable results.
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Shlomi Fish
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<LI><A HREF="005168.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<LI><A HREF="005197.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>Doug Lytle
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+<I>Donald Stewart
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+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
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+<I>TJ
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+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
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+<I>TJ
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005166.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>TJ
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005167.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
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+
+<LI><A HREF="005168.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005173.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005170.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
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+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
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+<LI><A HREF="005171.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005172.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
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+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
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+</A><A NAME="5176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005174.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
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+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
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+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005178.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005179.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005180.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005181.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005182.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005187.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005185.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005186.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005188.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005189.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Danny Roberts
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005192.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005193.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005194.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005195.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005196.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005197.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Sep 9 21:42:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 21:43:02 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 September 2011 Archive by subject</title>
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+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
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+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>9 September 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 02:45:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 21:42:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 33<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005166.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005171.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005168.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005173.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005174.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005197.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005165.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005167.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005181.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005182.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005170.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005172.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005176.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005175.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005178.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005180.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005177.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005179.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005187.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005185.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005186.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005188.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005189.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005192.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005193.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Danny Roberts
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005194.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005195.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005196.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Sep 9 21:42:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 21:43:02 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 September 2011 Archive by thread</title>
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+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>9 September 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 02:45:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 21:42:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 33<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01315529157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005165.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315529157-01315554406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005167.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315529157-01315554406-01315574002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005181.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315529157-01315554406-01315574002-01315574816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005182.html">[Mageia-discuss] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315538417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005166.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315538417-01315554509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005168.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315538417-01315554509-01315566770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315538417-01315554509-01315566770-01315567107- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005173.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315538417-01315554509-01315566770-01315567107-01315570077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005174.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315538417-01315554509-01315566770-01315569667- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005171.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315538417-01315554509-01315566770-01315597377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005197.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] hplip update in progress - feedback needed
+</A><A NAME="5197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315568844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005170.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315568844-01315569869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005172.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315568844-01315570012- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005176.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315568844-01315570012-01315571188- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005178.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01315568844-01315570124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005175.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315568844-01315571732- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005180.html">[Mageia-discuss] List of RPMs ?
+</A><A NAME="5180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315571017- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005177.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315571017-01315571420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005179.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005185.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639-01315578726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005186.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639-01315578726-01315579426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005188.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639-01315578726-01315579426-01315579570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005189.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639-01315578726-01315579426-01315579570-01315583333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005192.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315571017-01315571420-01315578639-01315578726-01315579426-01315579570-01315583333-01315583474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005193.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01315571017-01315578516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005187.html">[Mageia-discuss] New user
+</A><A NAME="5187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315576243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315576243-01315577127- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315576243-01315580224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Danny Roberts
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315576243-01315582644- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Switiching window decoration
+</A><A NAME="5191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315589694- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005194.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315589694-01315590411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005195.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315589694-01315591968- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005196.html">[Mageia-discuss] xmessage ?
+</A><A NAME="5196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Sep 9 21:42:57 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Sep 9 21:43:02 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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