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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+ <I>Tue Mar 8 12:39:10 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 03/03/11 22:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I looked into rpmdrake and just for a chance I searched for &quot;pulse&quot; -
+</I>&gt;<i> task-pulseaudio was not installed. I marked it for installation and 17
+</I>&gt;<i> packages were installed as dependencies! I also recognized that
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/pulse/system.pa was completely missing.
+</I>
+FWIW, although system.pa should be there, we don't actually use it
+(officially). I made a conscious decision a while ago to not ship an
+init script to start PA system wide (which is when system.pa is used) as
+it's generally discouraged and not well supported. I didn't get much in
+the way of flack for that so I don't have any immediate plans to change
+it. Finding and installing an init script if you really want it isn't
+that hard and will also make you think twice... don't want to make it
+too easy :D
+
+&gt;<i> After a reboot I had to make a change in the speaker configuration of
+</I>&gt;<i> phonon (via KDE config tool) and Ho! - Then there was sound!
+</I>
+Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply the
+&quot;pacmd list&quot; output (just want to double check that the default
+profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w).
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
+
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?">molch.b at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;pacmd list&quot; output (just want to double check that the default
+</I>&gt;<i> profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w).
+</I>
+I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the
+multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top
+of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only
+phonon-gstreamer).
+After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc,
+firefox plugins, etc.).
+
+See output of &quot;pacmd list&quot; attached.
+
+--
+wobo
+-------------- next part --------------
+Welcome to PulseAudio! Use &quot;help&quot; for usage information.
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Memory blocks currently allocated: 1, size: 63,9 KB.
+</I>Memory blocks allocated during the whole lifetime: 388, size: 8,0 MB.
+Memory blocks imported from other processes: 0, size: 0 B.
+Memory blocks exported to other processes: 0, size: 0 B.
+Total sample cache size: 0 B.
+Default sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
+Default channel map: front-left,front-right
+Default sink name: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
+Default source name: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
+Memory blocks of type POOL: 1 allocated/168 accumulated.
+Memory blocks of type POOL_EXTERNAL: 0 allocated/0 accumulated.
+Memory blocks of type APPENDED: 0 allocated/0 accumulated.
+Memory blocks of type USER: 0 allocated/0 accumulated.
+Memory blocks of type FIXED: 0 allocated/91 accumulated.
+Memory blocks of type IMPORTED: 0 allocated/129 accumulated.
+22 module(s) loaded.
+ index: 0
+ name: &lt;module-device-restore&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Automatically restore the volume/mute state of devices&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 1
+ name: &lt;module-stream-restore&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Automatically restore the volume/mute/device state of streams&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 2
+ name: &lt;module-card-restore&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Automatically restore profile of cards&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 3
+ name: &lt;module-augment-properties&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Augment the property sets of streams with additional static information&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 4
+ name: &lt;module-alsa-card&gt;
+ argument: &lt;device_id=&quot;1&quot; name=&quot;pci-0000_02_00.1&quot; card_name=&quot;alsa_card.pci-0000_02_00.1&quot; tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties=&quot;module-udev-detect.discovered=1&quot;&gt;
+ used: 0
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;ALSA Card&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 5
+ name: &lt;module-alsa-card&gt;
+ argument: &lt;device_id=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;pci-0000_00_1b.0&quot; card_name=&quot;alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0&quot; tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties=&quot;module-udev-detect.discovered=1&quot;&gt;
+ used: 0
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;ALSA Card&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 6
+ name: &lt;module-udev-detect&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 7
+ name: &lt;module-esound-protocol-unix&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;ESOUND protocol (UNIX sockets)&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 8
+ name: &lt;module-native-protocol-unix&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Native protocol (UNIX sockets)&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 9
+ name: &lt;module-gconf&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;GConf Adapter&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 10
+ name: &lt;module-default-device-restore&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Automatically restore the default sink and source&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 11
+ name: &lt;module-rescue-streams&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;When a sink/source is removed, try to move their streams to the default sink/source&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 12
+ name: &lt;module-always-sink&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Colin Guthrie&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Always keeps at least one sink loaded even if it's a null one&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 13
+ name: &lt;module-intended-roles&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Automatically set device of streams based of intended roles of devices&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 14
+ name: &lt;module-suspend-on-idle&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;When a sink/source is idle for too long, suspend it&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 15
+ name: &lt;module-console-kit&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Create a client for each ConsoleKit session of this user&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 16
+ name: &lt;module-position-event-sounds&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Position event sounds between L and R depending on the position on screen of the widget triggering them.&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 17
+ name: &lt;module-cork-music-on-phone&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Mute or cork music while a phone stream exists&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 18
+ name: &lt;module-x11-publish&gt;
+ argument: &lt;display=:0&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;X11 credential publisher&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 19
+ name: &lt;module-device-manager&gt;
+ argument: &lt;do_routing=1&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: yes
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Colin Guthrie&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Keep track of devices (and their descriptions) both past and present and prioritise by role&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 20
+ name: &lt;module-x11-xsmp&gt;
+ argument: &lt;display=:0 session_manager=local/localhost:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/3047,unix/localhost:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3047&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;X11 session management&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+ index: 21
+ name: &lt;module-cli-protocol-unix&gt;
+ argument: &lt;&gt;
+ used: -1
+ load once: no
+ properties:
+ module.author = &quot;Lennart Poettering&quot;
+ module.description = &quot;Command line interface protocol (UNIX sockets)&quot;
+ module.version = &quot;0.9.22-4.mga1&quot;
+1 sink(s) available.
+ * index: 0
+ name: &lt;alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo&gt;
+ driver: &lt;module-alsa-card.c&gt;
+ flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
+ state: SUSPENDED
+ suspend cause: IDLE
+ priority: 9959
+ volume: 0: 98% 1: 98%
+ 0: -0,42 dB 1: -0,42 dB
+ balance 0,00
+ base volume: 96%
+ -1,00 dB
+ volume steps: 65537
+ muted: no
+ current latency: 0,00 ms
+ max request: 0 KiB
+ max rewind: 0 KiB
+ monitor source: 0
+ sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
+ channel map: front-left,front-right
+ Stereo
+ used by: 0
+ linked by: 0
+ configured latency: 0,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 1999,82 ms
+ card: 1 &lt;alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0&gt;
+ module: 5
+ properties:
+ alsa.resolution_bits = &quot;16&quot;
+ device.api = &quot;alsa&quot;
+ device.class = &quot;sound&quot;
+ alsa.class = &quot;generic&quot;
+ alsa.subclass = &quot;generic-mix&quot;
+ alsa.name = &quot;ALC269 Analog&quot;
+ alsa.id = &quot;ALC269 Analog&quot;
+ alsa.subdevice = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.subdevice_name = &quot;subdevice #0&quot;
+ alsa.device = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card_name = &quot;HDA Intel&quot;
+ alsa.long_card_name = &quot;HDA Intel at 0xf0b00000 irq 41&quot;
+ alsa.driver_name = &quot;snd_hda_intel&quot;
+ device.bus_path = &quot;pci-0000:00:1b.0&quot;
+ sysfs.path = &quot;/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0&quot;
+ device.bus = &quot;pci&quot;
+ device.vendor.id = &quot;8086&quot;
+ device.vendor.name = &quot;Intel Corporation&quot;
+ device.product.id = &quot;3b56&quot;
+ device.product.name = &quot;5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio&quot;
+ device.form_factor = &quot;internal&quot;
+ device.string = &quot;front:0&quot;
+ device.buffering.buffer_size = &quot;352768&quot;
+ device.buffering.fragment_size = &quot;176384&quot;
+ device.access_mode = &quot;mmap+timer&quot;
+ device.profile.name = &quot;analog-stereo&quot;
+ device.profile.description = &quot;Analog Stereo&quot;
+ device.description = &quot;Internes Audio Analog Stereo&quot;
+ alsa.mixer_name = &quot;Realtek ALC269&quot;
+ alsa.components = &quot;HDA:10ec0269,144dc06a,00100004&quot;
+ module-udev-detect.discovered = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.icon_name = &quot;audio-card-pci&quot;
+ ports:
+ analog-output: Analog Output (priority 9900)
+ analog-output-speaker: Analog Speakers (priority 10000)
+ analog-output-headphones: Analog Headphones (priority 9000)
+ active port: &lt;analog-output-speaker&gt;
+2 source(s) available.
+ index: 0
+ name: &lt;alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor&gt;
+ driver: &lt;module-alsa-card.c&gt;
+ flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
+ state: SUSPENDED
+ suspend cause: IDLE
+ priority: 1950
+ volume: 0: 100% 1: 100%
+ 0: 0,00 dB 1: 0,00 dB
+ balance 0,00
+ base volume: 100%
+ 0,00 dB
+ volume steps: 65537
+ muted: no
+ current latency: 0,00 ms
+ max rewind: 0 KiB
+ sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
+ channel map: front-left,front-right
+ Stereo
+ used by: 0
+ linked by: 0
+ configured latency: 0,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 1999,82 ms
+ monitor_of: 0
+ card: 1 &lt;alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0&gt;
+ module: 5
+ properties:
+ device.description = &quot;Monitor of Internes Audio Analog Stereo&quot;
+ device.class = &quot;monitor&quot;
+ alsa.card = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card_name = &quot;HDA Intel&quot;
+ alsa.long_card_name = &quot;HDA Intel at 0xf0b00000 irq 41&quot;
+ alsa.driver_name = &quot;snd_hda_intel&quot;
+ device.bus_path = &quot;pci-0000:00:1b.0&quot;
+ sysfs.path = &quot;/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0&quot;
+ device.bus = &quot;pci&quot;
+ device.vendor.id = &quot;8086&quot;
+ device.vendor.name = &quot;Intel Corporation&quot;
+ device.product.id = &quot;3b56&quot;
+ device.product.name = &quot;5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio&quot;
+ device.form_factor = &quot;internal&quot;
+ device.string = &quot;0&quot;
+ module-udev-detect.discovered = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.icon_name = &quot;audio-card-pci&quot;
+ * index: 1
+ name: &lt;alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo&gt;
+ driver: &lt;module-alsa-card.c&gt;
+ flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
+ state: SUSPENDED
+ suspend cause: IDLE
+ priority: 9959
+ volume: 0: 68% 1: 68%
+ 0: -10,00 dB 1: -10,00 dB
+ balance 0,00
+ base volume: 33%
+ -29,00 dB
+ volume steps: 65537
+ muted: no
+ current latency: 0,00 ms
+ max rewind: 0 KiB
+ sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
+ channel map: front-left,front-right
+ Stereo
+ used by: 0
+ linked by: 0
+ configured latency: 0,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 1999,82 ms
+ card: 1 &lt;alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0&gt;
+ module: 5
+ properties:
+ alsa.resolution_bits = &quot;16&quot;
+ device.api = &quot;alsa&quot;
+ device.class = &quot;sound&quot;
+ alsa.class = &quot;generic&quot;
+ alsa.subclass = &quot;generic-mix&quot;
+ alsa.name = &quot;ALC269 Analog&quot;
+ alsa.id = &quot;ALC269 Analog&quot;
+ alsa.subdevice = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.subdevice_name = &quot;subdevice #0&quot;
+ alsa.device = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card_name = &quot;HDA Intel&quot;
+ alsa.long_card_name = &quot;HDA Intel at 0xf0b00000 irq 41&quot;
+ alsa.driver_name = &quot;snd_hda_intel&quot;
+ device.bus_path = &quot;pci-0000:00:1b.0&quot;
+ sysfs.path = &quot;/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0&quot;
+ device.bus = &quot;pci&quot;
+ device.vendor.id = &quot;8086&quot;
+ device.vendor.name = &quot;Intel Corporation&quot;
+ device.product.id = &quot;3b56&quot;
+ device.product.name = &quot;5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio&quot;
+ device.form_factor = &quot;internal&quot;
+ device.string = &quot;front:0&quot;
+ device.buffering.buffer_size = &quot;352768&quot;
+ device.buffering.fragment_size = &quot;176384&quot;
+ device.access_mode = &quot;mmap+timer&quot;
+ device.profile.name = &quot;analog-stereo&quot;
+ device.profile.description = &quot;Analog Stereo&quot;
+ device.description = &quot;Internes Audio Analog Stereo&quot;
+ alsa.mixer_name = &quot;Realtek ALC269&quot;
+ alsa.components = &quot;HDA:10ec0269,144dc06a,00100004&quot;
+ module-udev-detect.discovered = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.icon_name = &quot;audio-card-pci&quot;
+6 client(s) logged in.
+ index: 0
+ driver: &lt;module-console-kit.c&gt;
+ owner module: 15
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;ConsoleKit Session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1&quot;
+ console-kit.session = &quot;/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1&quot;
+ index: 2
+ driver: &lt;protocol-native.c&gt;
+ owner module: 8
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;KMix KDE 4&quot;
+ native-protocol.peer = &quot;UNIX socket client&quot;
+ native-protocol.version = &quot;16&quot;
+ application.process.id = &quot;3004&quot;
+ application.process.user = &quot;wobo&quot;
+ application.process.host = &quot;localhost&quot;
+ application.process.binary = &quot;kdeinit4&quot;
+ application.language = &quot;de_DE.UTF-8&quot;
+ window.x11.display = &quot;:0&quot;
+ application.process.machine_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8&quot;
+ application.process.session_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8-1299587217.146582-1217773601&quot;
+ index: 4
+ driver: &lt;protocol-native.c&gt;
+ owner module: 8
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;KMix KDE 4&quot;
+ native-protocol.peer = &quot;UNIX socket client&quot;
+ native-protocol.version = &quot;16&quot;
+ application.process.id = &quot;3232&quot;
+ application.process.user = &quot;wobo&quot;
+ application.process.host = &quot;localhost&quot;
+ application.process.binary = &quot;kdeinit4&quot;
+ application.language = &quot;de_DE.UTF-8&quot;
+ window.x11.display = &quot;:0&quot;
+ application.process.machine_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8&quot;
+ application.process.session_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8-1299587217.146582-1217773601&quot;
+ index: 8
+ driver: &lt;module-x11-xsmp.c&gt;
+ owner module: 20
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;XSMP Session on KDE as 1014cd7d2d4000129958723700000030470020&quot;
+ xsmp.vendor = &quot;KDE&quot;
+ xsmp.client.id = &quot;1014cd7d2d4000129958723700000030470020&quot;
+ index: 9
+ driver: &lt;protocol-native.c&gt;
+ owner module: 8
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;libcanberra&quot;
+ native-protocol.peer = &quot;UNIX socket client&quot;
+ native-protocol.version = &quot;16&quot;
+ application.version = &quot;0.27&quot;
+ application.id = &quot;org.freedesktop.libcanberra&quot;
+ application.process.id = &quot;3175&quot;
+ application.process.user = &quot;wobo&quot;
+ application.process.host = &quot;localhost&quot;
+ application.process.binary = &quot;knotify4&quot;
+ application.language = &quot;de_DE.UTF-8&quot;
+ window.x11.display = &quot;:0&quot;
+ application.process.machine_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8&quot;
+ application.process.session_id = &quot;311b75cc37917047e1e1b90f000000c8-1299587217.146582-1217773601&quot;
+ index: 11
+ driver: &lt;cli.c&gt;
+ owner module: 21
+ properties:
+ application.name = &quot;UNIX socket client&quot;
+2 card(s) available.
+ index: 0
+ name: &lt;alsa_card.pci-0000_02_00.1&gt;
+ driver: &lt;module-alsa-card.c&gt;
+ owner module: 4
+ properties:
+ alsa.card = &quot;1&quot;
+ alsa.card_name = &quot;HDA NVidia&quot;
+ alsa.long_card_name = &quot;HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16&quot;
+ alsa.driver_name = &quot;snd_hda_intel&quot;
+ device.bus_path = &quot;pci-0000:02:00.1&quot;
+ sysfs.path = &quot;/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:02:00.1/sound/card1&quot;
+ device.bus = &quot;pci&quot;
+ device.vendor.id = &quot;10de&quot;
+ device.vendor.name = &quot;nVidia Corporation&quot;
+ device.product.id = &quot;0be3&quot;
+ device.product.name = &quot;High Definition Audio Controller&quot;
+ device.string = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.description = &quot;High Definition Audio Controller&quot;
+ module-udev-detect.discovered = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.icon_name = &quot;audio-card-pci&quot;
+ profiles:
+ output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (priority 5400)
+ off: Aus (priority 0)
+ active profile: &lt;off&gt;
+ index: 1
+ name: &lt;alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0&gt;
+ driver: &lt;module-alsa-card.c&gt;
+ owner module: 5
+ properties:
+ alsa.card = &quot;0&quot;
+ alsa.card_name = &quot;HDA Intel&quot;
+ alsa.long_card_name = &quot;HDA Intel at 0xf0b00000 irq 41&quot;
+ alsa.driver_name = &quot;snd_hda_intel&quot;
+ device.bus_path = &quot;pci-0000:00:1b.0&quot;
+ sysfs.path = &quot;/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0&quot;
+ device.bus = &quot;pci&quot;
+ device.vendor.id = &quot;8086&quot;
+ device.vendor.name = &quot;Intel Corporation&quot;
+ device.product.id = &quot;3b56&quot;
+ device.product.name = &quot;5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio&quot;
+ device.form_factor = &quot;internal&quot;
+ device.string = &quot;0&quot;
+ device.description = &quot;Internes Audio&quot;
+ module-udev-detect.discovered = &quot;1&quot;
+ device.icon_name = &quot;audio-card-pci&quot;
+ profiles:
+ output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (priority 6000)
+ output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (priority 6060)
+ output:analog-surround-40: Analog Surround 4.0 Output (priority 700)
+ output:analog-surround-40+input:analog-stereo: Analog Surround 4.0 Output + Analog Stereo Input (priority 760)
+ input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (priority 60)
+ off: Aus (priority 0)
+ active profile: &lt;output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo&gt;
+ sinks:
+ alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo/#0: Internes Audio Analog Stereo
+ sources:
+ alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of Internes Audio Analog Stereo
+ alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo/#1: Internes Audio Analog Stereo
+0 sink input(s) available.
+0 source outputs(s) available.
+0 cache entrie(s) available.
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Tue Mar 8 14:15:32 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 3 March 2011 01:50, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Furthermore someone (like me and some others perhaps ) can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; interesting in &#171; popular education &#187; (&#233;ducation populaire) &#160;and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; relations between free software, free sciences free...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Oversimplification of the word is always oversimplifaction of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; concept. Even if it seems to be easier I see that as a fault.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have seen the history of GNU and Linux and their &quot;marriage&quot; (because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the GNU people did not have any simple and free kernel for their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> software). So, from my point of view there's a good chance that Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could have grown to a full operating system even without the GNU
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The gnu project provided lots of software, some quite unavoidable like a
+</I>&gt;<i> compiler, a standard library, or stuff like screen, gettext and slightly
+</I>&gt;<i> low level tools ( binutils, coreutils, etc ).
+</I>
+Yes but on the other hand:
+- libc was forked, then merged back in glibc (and is now mainly
+maintained by RH).
+ (And there's eglibc fork too)
+- gcc/binutils have concurrents: clang, llvm, ... (not yet at the
+same level but still...)
+ Same story: egcs fork, then &quot;merged&quot; back
+
+whereas it's trut it was important what stallman and the fsf did, by
+now, most important
+pieces of the OS are no more provided by the GNU project itself:
+- the kernel,
+- several shells,
+- all the graphical stack,
+- most server softwares, ...
+- Even at the lowest leve: udev, hal, ...
+
+GNU project was important, but it's not the biggest part of a Linux distro.
+Else shouldn't we be named &quot;GNU/KDE/GNOME/FreeDesktop/.../ Mageia Linux&quot;?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> On the other side nobody could tell if the GNU project would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have survived without Linux. Both thoughts are speculations, of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> course.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But would a GNU/Linux naming policy not neglect the merits of all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other projects who actually made the &quot;Gnu/Linux&quot; system a real usable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package? Imagine a distribution only supplying Linux and what remains
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from the GNU project (especially Emacs) - would any user actually use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it (except developpers and &quot;tech freaks&quot;)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I doubt developers would use something without gcc ( granted, there is
+</I>&gt;<i> pcc or llvm ) and without a libc ( granted again, someone could use a
+</I>&gt;<i> alternative like dietlibc etc )
+</I>
+Well:
+1) there're other compilers indeed
+2) since ther merge back of egcs, gcc, while still under the GNU flag,
+ is driven by the gcc steering commitee, no more by the FSF
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+<PRE>On 3 March 2011 22:10, Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> we should not forget that GNU had also tried to make a kernel of itself...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which was a total failure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mach microkernel
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> is used by the GNU Hurd
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> with even a Debian version of it
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, not a total failure. Just not wildly popular or widely supported.
+</I>
+Come on...
+Nearly no drivers but those of linux-2.0 (aka 10 years ago...)
+Yes it can runs.
+But slow. And better in a VM than on real modern bare metal.
+...
+
+&gt;<i> Please avoid asking for Hurd-powered Mageia. 8)
+</I>
+Well I wouldn't be against that :-)
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a message rather for french people. Mageia will have booth for
+</I>&gt;<i> Solution Linux 2011 and (to be confirmed) for RMLL. We need
+</I>&gt;<i> volunteer(s) to organize these events and help poor founders not to
+</I>&gt;<i> sleep on Mageia work :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can apply / propose here
+</I>RMLL I don't know yet
+but for Solution Linux I'll be there
+to organize I don't think I have enough time for that, but to help at
+the event yes
+
+Philippe
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+<PRE>Le Monday 07 March 2011 05:05:25, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; Did you try with a fresh user (just in case) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did - for the clean slate: same problem (I also checked re-booting -
+</I>&gt;<i> also, just in case)
+</I>It should be fixed with kdelibs 4.6.1-2
+
+Regards,
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> It's likely tar.gz files in FTP server are a universal installer, not the source
+</I>&gt;<i> code.
+</I>
+I've packaged it a couple days ago.
+Alienarena too.
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+
+I am deploying the ldap aliases stuff on the servers, and this may
+impact the mail delivery from and to the various servers. Even if we
+will try to not impact much ( or at all ), a error could happen. Warn me
+on irc if there is something weird regarding mailling lists after 16h
+UTC ( so I have at least time to work without being interrupted )
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;pacmd list&quot; output (just want to double check that the default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the
+</I>&gt;<i> multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top
+</I>&gt;<i> of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only
+</I>&gt;<i> phonon-gstreamer).
+</I>&gt;<i> After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc,
+</I>&gt;<i> firefox plugins, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See output of &quot;pacmd list&quot; attached.
+</I>
+i had a similar problem, but that was codec related of the gstreamer. on my
+machine, phonon-xine worked a lot better than phonon-gstreamer...
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 8 12:39:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Mar 8 20:18:44 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003928.html">[Mageia-discuss] Dolphin does not show my home folder
+</A><A NAME="3928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003923.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003931.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003927.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events
+</A><A NAME="3927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003929.html">[Mageia-discuss] OpenOpera?
+</A><A NAME="3929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003930.html">[Mageia-discuss] potential perturbation regarding mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="3930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Mar 8 20:18:44 CET 2011</i><br>
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+<!--0 01299584350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003923.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299584350-01299587916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299584350-01299587916-01299611924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003931.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299590132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299590676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299591848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003927.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events
+</A><A NAME="3927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299592044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003928.html">[Mageia-discuss] Dolphin does not show my home folder
+</A><A NAME="3928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299595978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003929.html">[Mageia-discuss] OpenOpera?
+</A><A NAME="3929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299596705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003930.html">[Mageia-discuss] potential perturbation regarding mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="3930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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