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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Hoyt Duff wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> around the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some small
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> niche,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the part
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the world
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That could be accomplished by outlining the &quot;flame&quot; in dark blue or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd rather the flame not be outlined at all but look like an actual
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> flame,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> indistinct at the edges, rising from a crystal ball. With the stylized,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bounded flame it looks rinky dink, toylike, and sharpening the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> boundedness
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only exacerbates the problem. The visual elements of a logo don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> *have*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to literal-mindedly combine to spell out a meaning. At least,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perusing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> submissions, I don't see anything as ugly as SUSE's (gecko?).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A crystal ball would inspire trust in a Linux operating system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Somehow, I'm not quite sure that most potential users would trust
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;magic&quot; for serious tools that should always work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did someone say &quot;rinky dink, toylike&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I would just like for it to be eye-catching and look nice.
+</I>Definitely a plus.
+
+&gt;<i> I'd be pretty shallow and gullible if I trusted *or* distrusted Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> due to the shape of its logo rather than personal experience or word
+</I>&gt;<i> of mouth.
+</I>Others might say that you would have to be pretty shallow and gullible
+if you base trust on word of mouth.
+You have to realise that there are mamy cultural reasons why people may
+trust/mistrust, find interesting/uninteresting various products.
+Firstly, the logo in question is typical of a natural gas ad in North
+America.
+Also used by companies selling associated appliances.
+So using such a logo would be negative in the sense of signalling
+&quot;uninteresting&quot;, *before* a potential user has tried Mageia. At least
+in North America.
+The magic theme would also have negative connotations for most potential
+users in North America, largely based on historical abuses, and the
+general disdain for &quot;magic&quot;. To most it means &quot;not serious&quot;.
+
+When I say negative connotations, I mean that people will just turn off
+and not read further. They often won't even realise that Mageia is a
+serious Linux distribution.
+And if they do but don't know what that means, that won't induce the
+curiosity to find out.
+Which is why we need a logo that is interesting, but neutral in certain
+important aspects.
+For North America that means *No magic* and *no natural gas*
+
+&gt;<i> If people perceive Mageia as trustworthy its logo will evoke
+</I>&gt;<i> that judgment because it's associated with Mageia, not because it's the
+</I>&gt;<i> source of the judgment.
+</I>But would you really &quot;trust&quot; a complex product like an operating system
+before trying it ?
+I wouldn't. And I'm a programmer.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+another 2 cents :)
+
+- Andr&#233;
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