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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>I like those too the most:
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+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexsim22/5121899360/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexsim22/5121899360/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> not the
+colors, but the style...
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+ <B>Chris Ellis</B>
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+<PRE>Hi
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+My preferred logos in order of preference:
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+ 1) <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mondze/5021120343/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mondze/5021120343/</A>
+ 2) <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+ 3) <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/</A>
+
+I like the simplicity of #1, #2 and #3. I think the simplicity of the
+lines and colours is important, especially considering the logo may be
+reproduced on various mediums.
+I like the lines of #1, seems to symbolise forking and as such a key
+principle of FOSS.
+
+I'm conflicted over #2, I like the concept and imagery which ties in
+with the name. I also like the simplicity of the logo and the fact it
+seems easily recognisable under differing colours. However I find
+that the logo feels to similar to the Windows logo, given the 4
+quadrant design and the 4 colours chosen. I think that this logo with
+only one icon or with the icon in a single colour would be more
+suitable and hence my conflicted thoughts. I'm tied between liking
+and disliking this option. With a little development of the design,
+this would be my first choice.
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+Well, that is my thoughts.
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+Chris Ellis
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+ <B>Sam Bailey</B>
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+ <I>Sun Nov 21 01:48:12 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE> On 21/11/10 05:30, Mihai Dobrescu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I like most these:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the last one is the classiest and most inspired. To me is
+</I>&gt;<i> light, appealing and dynamic.
+</I>+1
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+Both of these would be great selections.
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+--
+Sam Bailey
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+Em: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cyprix at cyprix.com.au</A>
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>I notice the donations have stagnated.
+Maybe because donors can not tell if you need more or not or for what use
+currently.
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+There is a statement from 2 october at <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/">http://blog.mageia.org/</A> :
+&quot;We will publish monthly financial reports so that you can follow how it&#8217;s
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+<PRE>Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>
+This is my favourite. Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name nor
+typeface, and may be in any two colour.
+
+And if we want a logo/icon for chauldron (the development branch) we could use
+this with a fire under, idicating that this is the coocking thing in
+preparation.
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+- while the one without fire is the one ready to be consumed :)
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+<PRE>2010/11/21 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite. &#160;Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name nor
+</I>&gt;<i> typeface, and may be in any two colour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if we want a logo/icon for chauldron (the development branch) we could use
+</I>&gt;<i> this with a fire under, idicating that this is the coocking thing in
+</I>&gt;<i> preparation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - while the one without fire is the one ready to be consumed :)
+</I>
+Excellent idea, giving this logo an extra push!
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+&gt;<i> I notice the donations have stagnated.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe because donors can not tell if you need more or not or for what use
+</I>&gt;<i> currently.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a statement from 2 october at <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/">http://blog.mageia.org/</A> :
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;We will publish monthly financial reports so that you can follow how it&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> being used&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Where can we find thoose?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (And it would be a good idea to link them from the donations page)
+</I>
+IIRC the association has to be approved first; no money is being used yet.
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+the only exception was what was loaned from the organisation that takes care
+of donations now, and that was stated in the blog.
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+that being said; it is a good idea to have a place to put that. but since they
+are preparing servers, i think it needs a little bit of waiting.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2010/11/21 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is my favourite. Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name
+</I>nor
+&gt;<i> &gt; typeface, and may be in any two colour.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And if we want a logo/icon for chauldron (the development branch) we could
+</I>use
+&gt;<i> &gt; this with a fire under, idicating that this is the coocking thing in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; preparation.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - while the one without fire is the one ready to be consumed :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excellent idea, giving this logo an extra push!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+really beautiful, i like it!!!
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+Marcello
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+<PRE>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Marcello Anni wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/11/21 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This is my favourite. Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name
+</I>
+Very cool and beautiful, my favorite too!! :)
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Marcello Anni wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/11/21 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This is my favourite. &#160;Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Very cool and beautiful, my favorite too!! :)
+</I>
+&quot;Cool&quot; and &quot;beautiful&quot; are the subjective side of the question (I
+happen to disagree, but this is merely a matter of taste).
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+Still, I can't help but wonder: what does this logo say about Mageia?
+The &quot;cauldron with/without fire&quot; sounds like a kind of insider's joke
+to me. I doubt that it would help getting the Mageia message across to
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+&gt;<i> Still, I can't help but wonder: what does this logo say about Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;cauldron with/without fire&quot; sounds like a kind of insider's joke
+</I>&gt;<i> to me. I doubt that it would help getting the Mageia message across to
+</I>&gt;<i> a broad audience.
+</I>What do all the others? What does the logo at the upper right of this page
+say: <A HREF="http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm">http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm</A>
+Nothing? But still, it's the biggest bank in Germany...
+
+A logo does not have to &quot;say&quot; anything. It has to be recognizable. And I do
+think this one is!
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+<PRE>Am Sonntag 21 November 2010, 14:47:59 schrieb J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin:
+&gt;<i> On 21 November 2010 12:26, Cazzaniga-Sandro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Marcello Anni wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; 2010/11/21 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; ones
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; This is my favourite. Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; name
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Very cool and beautiful, my favorite too!! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Cool&quot; and &quot;beautiful&quot; are the subjective side of the question (I
+</I>&gt;<i> happen to disagree, but this is merely a matter of taste).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still, I can't help but wonder: what does this logo say about Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;cauldron with/without fire&quot; sounds like a kind of insider's joke
+</I>&gt;<i> to me. I doubt that it would help getting the Mageia message across to
+</I>&gt;<i> a broad audience.
+</I>
+Maybe you should take a look at the explanation of the author.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/</A>
+
+For me the couldron is enough statement for Mageia (though magic).
+
+This logo has everything needed for a good logo (objective) ... as far as I
+can say.
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+&gt;<i> What do all the others? What does the logo at the upper right of this page
+</I>&gt;<i> say: <A HREF="http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm">http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing? But still, it's the biggest bank in Germany...
+</I>
+Well, actually the DB logo does say something. The square resembles
+the safe vault, the slash is the slash of the percent character,
+standing for interest wins. That's the explanation of the designer who
+created it. The original was a square with a roof and the complete
+percent character inside.
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+And, as Thorsten wrote, the creator of this cauldron logo also
+explains the meaning.
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+What strikes me most is the simplicity. A 3-year old can take a stick
+and scratch it in the sand.
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+&gt;<i> Den 2010-11-21 00:32:41 skrev Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A> and all related ones
+</I>+1 this my favorite...corporate, easy to recognize and the cauldron is
+different than the magic wand.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite. &#160;Very simple, easy to recognize, not tied to name nor
+</I>&gt;<i> typeface, and may be in any two colour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if we want a logo/icon for chauldron (the development branch) we could use
+</I>&gt;<i> this with a fire under, idicating that this is the coocking thing in
+</I>&gt;<i> preparation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - while the one without fire is the one ready to be consumed :)
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+A big Thank you to all the artists that contributed !
+Out of the narrowed down list, I'm partial to these two.
+1.<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/</A>
+2.<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/</A>
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+I hope that the artists not selected will consider reworking their logo's
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+<PRE>2010/11/21 Lawrence A Fossi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">DarkFoss at comcast.net</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> A big Thank you to all the artists that contributed !
+</I>&gt;<i> Out of the narrowed down list, I'm partial to these two.
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/</A>
+</I>
+I looked at all the logos in the narrowed down list in monochrome
+(just black/white, which was one of the criterae), there are only few
+which survived this test.
+
+&gt;<i> I hope that the artists not selected will consider reworking their logo's
+</I>&gt;<i> into wallpaper.
+</I>
+Yes, I do hope so too. There are many which do not meet the guidelines
+but would make a beautiful wallpaper.
+
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+&gt;<i> Maybe you should take a look at the explanation of the author.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me the couldron is enough statement for Mageia (though magic).
+</I>
+I thought it meant &quot;laundry setting to boil whites&quot;.
+
+A logo that needs an explanation like that isn't good, but it
+might be a good foundation to build on.
+
+Choosing colours (if not already done) would help -- e.g.
+purple (although purple can be hard to print commercially)
+or green.
+
+The typeface there has strong associations for people living
+in the US (all the road signs using it) but not for others.
+At any rate, ideally, a libre font will be used.
+
+Liam
+
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+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+ack, Thanks for the reminder about black/white Wobo.
+Since Grey was ok as well my 2 votes do have that variant submitted..
+The second vote would have to have the green ray changed though.
+
+My third vote would be for the ever popular cauldron
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
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+Well said, Wolfgang .... if the name Mageia is intended to suggest
+magic, then surely part of magic lies in the 'art' of making the complex
+appear simple which is the loftiest goal of Linux, is it not?
+
+George
+
+On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 15:20 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2010/11/21 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do all the others? What does the logo at the upper right of this page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; say: <A HREF="http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm">http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Nothing? But still, it's the biggest bank in Germany...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, actually the DB logo does say something. The square resembles
+</I>&gt;<i> the safe vault, the slash is the slash of the percent character,
+</I>&gt;<i> standing for interest wins. That's the explanation of the designer who
+</I>&gt;<i> created it. The original was a square with a roof and the complete
+</I>&gt;<i> percent character inside.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And, as Thorsten wrote, the creator of this cauldron logo also
+</I>&gt;<i> explains the meaning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What strikes me most is the simplicity. A 3-year old can take a stick
+</I>&gt;<i> and scratch it in the sand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+with its clean, simple freshness and its suggestion of 'action' and even
+problem or puzzle resolution.
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++1 from me on that one, Sam
+
+George
+
+
+On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 11:48 +1100, Sam Bailey wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 21/11/10 05:30, Mihai Dobrescu wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I like most these:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think the last one is the classiest and most inspired. To me is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; light, appealing and dynamic.
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both of these would be great selections.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> You bet .... the second of your 2 'faves' impressed me at first sight
+</I>&gt;<i> with its clean, simple freshness and its suggestion of 'action' and even
+</I>&gt;<i> problem or puzzle resolution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/</A>
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+Looks like Yin-Yang symbol. Copyright/cultural/&quot;freshness&quot; issues?
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 15:08 +0100, Thorsten van Lil wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe you should take a look at the explanation of the author.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536676/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For me the couldron is enough statement for Mageia (though magic).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought it meant &quot;laundry setting to boil whites&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A logo that needs an explanation like that isn't good, but it
+</I>&gt;<i> might be a good foundation to build on.
+</I>
+No, that is not a requirement for a logo.
+The already mentioned logo of the &quot;Deutsche Bank&quot; has needed an explanation.
+The meaning of the Ubuntu logo, which I think is one of the best logos so far,
+wasn't clear to me the first few years.
+
+Many logos didn't have a meaning and are good at all.
+Logos need to be simple, recognizable, scaleable and have to look good in
+monochrome as well as in color.
+
+The marketing guys may want to add some points, which I don't think at.
+
+Just try to imagine the logo at the collar of a shirt or at the icon in the
+adressbar of the webbrowser.
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+&gt;<i> 2010/11/21 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do all the others? What does the logo at the upper right of this page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> say: <A HREF="http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm">http://www.deutsche-bank.de/index.htm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nothing? But still, it's the biggest bank in Germany...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, actually the DB logo does say something. The square resembles
+</I>&gt;<i> the safe vault, the slash is the slash of the percent character,
+</I>&gt;<i> standing for interest wins. That's the explanation of the designer who
+</I>&gt;<i> created it. The original was a square with a roof and the complete
+</I>&gt;<i> percent character inside.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And, as Thorsten wrote, the creator of this cauldron logo also
+</I>&gt;<i> explains the meaning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What strikes me most is the simplicity. A 3-year old can take a stick
+</I>&gt;<i> and scratch it in the sand.
+</I>
+Designers usually have explanations, whether or not they're relevant,
+but I doubt very much that the average person who encounters that logo
+sees a representation of a vault and percent character, never mind the
+proffered slogan. They &quot;see&quot; the bank. What strikes you as simplicity
+strikes me as cartoonish. I can see its appeal but it doesn't work for
+me. I prefer a logo that's three-dimensional rather than an outline,
+but that's just my aesthetic taste.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:22:21AM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>... snip
+&gt;<i> Step 3. will happen within the coming days during the discussion; for
+</I>&gt;<i> this, you may add your criteria proposals to the above wiki page - it
+</I>&gt;<i> may be used or not. You may list your top 4 favorites (here, by
+</I>&gt;<i> email). Artists in the short-list may refine (not mandatory, really)
+</I>&gt;<i> their proposal and mark it with a &quot;mga refined&quot; tag.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are Thursday Nov. 18th. That makes the public discussion open until
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday Nov. 24th. Board final selection will be done in the days
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and announcement likewise, depending on the progress of
+</I>&gt;<i> refinements and legal processes. So first week of December, hopefully,
+</I>&gt;<i> should be decent expectation for step 6.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said several times, please note that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - only the founding board will close the selection and decide which
+</I>&gt;<i> logo is the one;
+</I>&gt;<i> - this will not prevent from listening to everyone's point of view on
+</I>&gt;<i> the short list proposals.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>Hello,
+
+Thanks for taking time to review our proposals.
+
+I refined my proposal to provide the necessary elements :
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5195308848/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5195308848/</A>
+
+I&#8217;m having some troubles in providing a text only version because I&#8217;m
+not experienced in font making, basically just the M and g changed from
+the standard bitstream vera sans font (and I added a dot on the iota).
+
+I already commented on some of the shortlisted proposals, but here is my
+top 4:
+
+1. Ofaurax&#8217; proposal: <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935499/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935499/</A>
+It&#8217;s really neat and I think it allows much more alternatives than mine.
+I also like the fact that it looks related to the project, its design is
+quite simple yet very efficient
+
+2. F. Tizzoni&#8217;s proposal: <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614782/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614782/</A>
+I love this one because it shows the openness of the project, the
+colours are also quite uncommon among our competitors which may help to
+build a unique visual identity.
+
+3. Rarroyo23 proposal:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/</A>
+This one does not evoke anything special at first glance but I quite
+like the idea, and the gradient is well chosen.
+
+The font is not that pretty though and the reflection is a bit overused
+these days.
+
+4. AlexN83 proposal:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/</A>
+I like the concept of the bubbles, but to be electable it should get rid
+of both the linux and star.
+
+I had quite hard time to choose the last two, IMHO many logos are either
+too sophisticated or don&#8217;t evoke something special or look too much like
+other logos. It&#8217;s not that they&#8217;re not pretty, many look better than
+mine !
+
+Regards,
+--
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Lawrence A Fossi wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A big Thank you to all the artists that contributed !
+</I>&gt;<i> Out of the narrowed down list, I'm partial to these two.
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43049453@N04/5094404790/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/</A>
+</I>
+I like both of these, too, although the double circle
+surrounding the central element in number one should be
+de-emphasized and perhaps turned into *just* a double
+circle rather than an implied maze entrance. Competing
+elements and clashing themes, but the central, fan-blade
+element works great. (Doesn't have to &quot;mean&quot; anything,
+though.) I like number two, also. Very eye-catching and
+aesthetically pleasing.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+&gt;<i> &#160;What strikes you as simplicity
+</I>&gt;<i> strikes me as cartoonish. &#160;I can see its appeal but it doesn't work for
+</I>&gt;<i> me. &#160;I prefer a logo that's three-dimensional rather than an outline,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that's just my aesthetic taste.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That has been my criticism of many of Mandrivas icons (the user icons
+, for example): they look cartoonish and lack what the marketing types
+refer to as &quot;high touch&quot;. They would be fine in a distro targeted at
+children, but not adults who consider themselves as cutting-edge.
+
+
+As an aside, I don't care for the &quot;Tux&quot; logo either for the same
+reason, but if you had to go with that style, I prefer someting with
+an edge.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.decalsusa.com/images/badtz%20maru%20colors.GIF">http://www.decalsusa.com/images/badtz%20maru%20colors.GIF</A>
+
+(off-topic, but I'm in an off-topic-ish mood).
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+ <B>Rick Stockton</B>
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+We are becoming a tangle of quoted/re-quoted posts, with add-on votes and
+replies all mixed together :( But, I'll take part in this method of
+&quot;review&quot;, since everyone else is doing the same.
+
+I have different favorites than most previous commentators. I like the
+&quot;Magic golden egg on Living Sceptre&quot; by Alex,
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexsim22/5120476855/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexsim22/5120476855/</A>
+And he's done it beautifully in both color and grayscale. The one thing he
+has NOT done properly is check the licensing on his fonts; I'm pretty sure
+that &quot;Trebuchet MS&quot; is a license-for-money proprietary font, owned by
+Microsoft (although that version is ugly anyway). The one which looks good
+and needs to be checked is the one he calls &quot;js-math&quot;. If it's now owned by
+Oracle, well, that could be a bad choice too.
+
+My other favorite is eMiR's globe in four quadrants with hand-drawn &quot;M&quot;,
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/5023349863/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/5023349863/</A> I have a long
+comment attached to that photo- the two strange dots (Curitiba and Paris
+???) should probably be deleted. But the Globe is not derivative of
+Firefox, and the four quadrants are in complete contact with each other
+(at the equator, and at a dividing line down the middle of the logo).
+Because they are solid colors, and fully attached within the circle, I
+think it works [i]better[/i] than the well-liked Earth/Air/Water/Fire
+scheme ( <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A> ).
+
+Per my comment on that picture, each of the four images in [i]that[/i] set
+is detached from the others -- you end up with [u]a pattern of 4
+logos[/u], rather than one single logo. People with eyes like me would
+remember &quot;there's a leaf for Earth, and a Flame, and a Water blob, and a
+wind for Air&quot;. But that's four DIFFERENT logos, and in my head, four
+things does NOT &quot;map&quot; to one thing very well. If we want people like me to
+associate our new logo with ONE thing, Mageia, then we need to make ONE
+logo. Not four.
+
+The very popular <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/</A> is,
+for me, [u]too[/u] &quot;light&quot;. The colors, and the gentle, balanced swirls,
+add up to... not much. Pretty, and pretty forgettable. A heavier text font
+will not solve the problem; the picture itself is too &quot;weak&quot;. Think about
+the business logos which you respect -- you'll probably decide, as I did,
+that they're usually a lot more &quot;SOLID&quot; than this one.
+---
+I present strong opinions, I know. Please *DO* feel free to ignore them if
+you disagree with me. And thanks for reading this far. :)
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+(in reply to wobo, #2231. And first, let me emphasize: I think &quot;you da man
+!!!).
+
+I feel that the DB logo is MUCH better than this proposal for ours. Here's
+why: It is STRONG!
+In contrast, our fizzing &quot;cauldron&quot; looks like bubbles coming from an
+exploded aluminum can of soda-pop... or maybe bits of an exploding
+balloon. I agree with Oliver: if we do use this one, it needs fire
+underneath to show that something is cooking. Otherwise, to me, it just
+likes inexplicable fizz, &quot;soda-pop&quot; or a children's party accident.
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+Quote: Lawrence A Fossi wrote on Sun, 21 November 2010 09:38
+
+&lt;&lt;snip&gt;&gt;
+&gt;<i> 2.<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325/</A>
+</I>I like this one very much, but the artist needs to make pure grayscale
+(without green). And perhaps also a pure Black-white version. I'm guessing
+that the purpose of requiring a black/white was to reduce ink requirements
+and avoid smudges. If so, we should also pay attention to the _amount_ of
+black ink being used.
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+<I>Marcello Anni
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+<LI><A HREF="003059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Sam Bailey
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+</A><A NAME="3057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="003067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="003080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Remy CLOUARD
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+<LI><A HREF="003065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
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+<LI><A HREF="003077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+<I>Hoyt Duff
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+<LI><A HREF="003058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Chris Ellis
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="003071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
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+<LI><A HREF="003074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
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+<I>Aur&#233;lien GOLL
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+<I>Dale Huckeby
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+<I>Dale Huckeby
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+</A><A NAME="3066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="003060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="003061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+<LI><A HREF="003068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Thorsten van Lil
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+<I>Thorsten van Lil
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+<I>Liam R E Quin
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+<LI><A HREF="003086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Here's two I like; some others (with + comments in posts above) which I don't like so much.
+</A><A NAME="3086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
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+<I>Sam Bailey
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+<LI><A HREF="003086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Here's two I like; some others (with + comments in posts above) which I don't like so much.
+</A><A NAME="3086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="003060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+<LI><A HREF="003061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
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+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Marcello Anni
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+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
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+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
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+<I>Remy CLOUARD
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+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
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+ <h1>21 November 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Nov 21 00:32:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Nov 21 23:05:24 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 29<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Here's two I like; some others (with + comments in posts above) which I don't like so much.
+</A><A NAME="3086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Ellis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aur&#233;lien GOLL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>George J. Walsh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>George J. Walsh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Nov 21 23:05:24 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 22 00:54:06 CET 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>21 November 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Nov 21 00:32:41 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Nov 21 23:05:24 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 29<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01290295961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01290295961-01290329750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga-Sandro
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290361102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290361102-01290362030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290361102-01290362030-01290365058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290361102-01290374959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290361102-01290377124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290368101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>George J. Walsh
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290373738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290373738-01290375193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290347824-01290349216-01290373738-01290376215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290348494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290348494-01290364470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290295961-01290329750-01290332879-01290335941-01290338760-01290347279-01290348494-01290364470-01290371656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01290295961-01290329750-01290359364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aur&#233;lien GOLL
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01290297169- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Ellis
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01290300492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01290300492-01290322640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Here's two I like; some others (with + comments in posts above) which I don't like so much.
+</A><A NAME="3086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01290300492-01290368753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>George J. Walsh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01290300492-01290368753-01290370166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01290329487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01290329487-01290334317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial report?
+</A><A NAME="3063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01290361957- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Nov 21 23:05:24 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 22 00:54:06 CET 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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