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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002971.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002971.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5ffd040fb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002971.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DfSqVmB8UzC3xO881jHh6J%2BHhgCw4dFh7ZNoOB%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002972.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Kristoffer Grundström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DfSqVmB8UzC3xO881jHh6J%2BHhgCw4dFh7ZNoOB%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 00:24:51 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2971">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2971">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2971">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2971">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Is LSB going to be used in the ISO & the updates? + +2010/11/8 Luca Berra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A>> + +><i> On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:43:46PM +0100, Renaud MICHEL wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> On dimanche 07 novembre 2010 at 22:33, Luca Berra wrote : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> > you must include all intermediate updates packages to create the delta. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> you just have to keep track of package 1 and n-1, not all of them +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> No, because a roll back of a file can happen on any update. If a file is +</I>>><i> changed in release n-2 and rolled back in n-1, if you only consider packages +</I>>><i> 1 n-1 and n you miss the roll back for the people who updated to n-2 but +</I>>><i> missed the update to n-1. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, sir, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If n contains n-1 this remains true at every increment of n, so you +</I>><i> never need to look at n-2 because n-1 already contains it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But besides the teoric discussions there is no code project to do this, +</I>><i> so all of this discussion is leading nowere. +</I>><i> current deltarpm code works by creating binary deltas between two given +</I>><i> rpms and, besides the fact we are not even sure it works with current +</I>><i> lzma compressed rpms, the points raised by nanar all hold. so i dont' +</I>><i> believe we will use deltarpm as it is. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> L. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101109/35e2797c/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2971">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2971">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2971">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2971">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002972.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002972.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a0a8b99b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002972.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109002620.18e7f0e3.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002971.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002973.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109002620.18e7f0e3.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 00:26:20 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2972">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2972">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2972">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2972">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hey guys :) + +I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. + +In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. + +The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) + +Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we should +remove i586 ... what do you think? + +Greeting + +Egon (Wubbbi) + +-- +Egon Ashrafinia <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com</A>> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2972">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2972">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2972">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2972">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002973.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002973.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c7d902c18 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002973.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090038.14199.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002972.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002974.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090038.14199.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 00:38:14 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2973">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2973">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2973">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2973">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +><i> Hey guys :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>><i> should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Greeting +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Egon (Wubbbi) +</I> + +No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still being +used. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2973">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2973">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2973">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2973">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002974.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002974.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b3de6f57e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002974.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109010050.f53d79ef.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002973.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002975.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109010050.f53d79ef.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 01:00:50 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2974">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2974">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2974">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2974">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > Hey guys :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>><i> > should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Greeting +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +</I>><i> because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still being +</I>><i> used. +</I> +But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is that the i586 Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like AMD K10 or the Intel iX. Maybe we could make the i686 the default one and the i586 as an option? I think that will be better for our "non-Pc-geek-users". + +Greetings + +-- +Egon Ashrafinia <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com</A>> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2974">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2974">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2974">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2974">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002975.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002975.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..292ed5eab --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002975.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTindLo8z0bNuWHH9K3VvNC7ran3dpEGVsYvmxiqZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002974.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002976.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>rom1dep</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTindLo8z0bNuWHH9K3VvNC7ran3dpEGVsYvmxiqZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">rom1dep at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 01:15:27 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2975">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2975">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2975">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2975">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/11/9 Egon Ashrafinia <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +</I>><i> Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>>><i> > Hey guys :) +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>>><i> > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>>><i> > should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Greeting +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +</I>>><i> because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still being +</I>>><i> used. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is that the i586 Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like AMD K10 or the Intel iX. Maybe we could make the i686 the default one and the i586 as an option? I think that will be better for our "non-Pc-geek-users". +</I> ++1 +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2975">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2975">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2975">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2975">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002976.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002976.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..396aece28 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002976.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090120.38541.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002975.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002977.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090120.38541.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 01:20:38 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2976">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2976">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2976">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2976">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 01:00:50 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +><i> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > > Hey guys :) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> > > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>><i> > > should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Greeting +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +</I>><i> > because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still +</I>><i> > being used. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is that +</I>><i> the i586 Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like AMD K10 +</I>><i> or the Intel iX. Maybe we could make the i686 the default one and the i586 +</I>><i> as an option? I think that will be better for our "non-Pc-geek-users". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Greetings +</I> + +the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2976">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2976">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2976">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2976">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002977.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002977.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4c51a8279 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002977.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109012748.aafd8860.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002976.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002986.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C20101109012748.aafd8860.e.ashrafinia%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 01:27:48 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2977">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2977">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2977">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2977">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 01:20:38 +0100 +Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 01:00:50 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > > > Hey guys :) +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> > > > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>><i> > > > should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Greeting +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +</I>><i> > > because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still +</I>><i> > > being used. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is that +</I>><i> > the i586 Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like AMD K10 +</I>><i> > or the Intel iX. Maybe we could make the i686 the default one and the i586 +</I>><i> > as an option? I think that will be better for our "non-Pc-geek-users". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Greetings +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</I> +Thats not true. When I install a fresh Mandriva 2010.1 on my AMD Phenom II x4 @3,4Ghz machine, I always have the i586 installed by default. Thus I have to install the i686, restart, remove i586 and then I also have to change that pachage and that package just cause some freaks with an Intel Pentium @200Mhz want to run Mandriva on their machine. I am sorry but that is not what I want to have for a distribution. Also there are many user that dont know the diffrent between those 2 Kernel. Thus they let the i586 installed and gain less Power. What what I expect of a modern and fast distribution. Try it your self. i586 is the default and I vote for i686 as the default one as it is in Fedora and Ubuntu ;) + +Greetings + +-- +Egon Ashrafinia <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com</A>> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2977">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2977">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2977">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2977">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002978.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002978.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c1abadc37 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002978.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C880363939-1289265632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-127199485-%40bda807.bisx.prod.on.blackberry%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002988.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002981.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Erin Wilkins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C880363939-1289265632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-127199485-%40bda807.bisx.prod.on.blackberry%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">erin at sea-dragon.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 02:20:36 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2978">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2978">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2978">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2978">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</I> +In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run on as wide a range of hardware as possible. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2978">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2978">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2978">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2978">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002979.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002979.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0ec0113df --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002979.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C1289273886.25189.43.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002986.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002988.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C1289273886.25189.43.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 04:38:06 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2979">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2979">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2979">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2979">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 09 novembre 2010 à 01:00 +0100, Egon Ashrafinia a écrit : +><i> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +</I>><i> Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > > Hey guys :) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> > > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe we +</I>><i> > > should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Greeting +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that kernel; +</I>><i> > because this software still runs on pentium machines and they are still being +</I>><i> > used. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is that the i586 +</I>><i> Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like AMD K10 or the Intel iX. +</I> +On newer processors, just use a 64 bits distribution if your +preoccupation is to get the "full power" of your hardware. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2979">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2979">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2979">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2979">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002980.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002980.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2bc4c9b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002980.html @@ -0,0 +1,264 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD8D4C0.3010100%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002989.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD8D4C0.3010100%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 05:57:36 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2980">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2980">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2980">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2980">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Le vendredi 5 novembre 2010 06:38:14, andre999 a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> As far as the question of application/package view goes, folding entries +</I>>><i> (as in Rpmdrake groups or Nautilus) which expands to multi-line would be +</I>>><i> nice. +</I>>><i> That way complex packages like Openoffice or Firefox could be folded +</I>>><i> into 2 or 3 lines. +</I>>><i> (1 for localisation, another possibly for optional modules, another for +</I>>><i> core modules.) +</I>>><i> Now Firefox is more than 100 packages. +</I>>><i> This sort of suggestion has been made for Rpmdrake. +</I>>><i> The advantage of this approach is that the minimised view could be the +</I>>><i> default, and at any time it can be expanded to show all packages, +</I>>><i> without any configuration settings. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I'm not against, however how can we define those groups ? Is there a way to automate it ? Is it necessary to define it manually (and so to maintain it so have maintainers of these groups definitions) ? +</I>><i> +</I>First of all, the idea is to continue to use Mandriva-like categories +for the packages, as in Rpmdrake. So we associate packages within these +larger categories. + +The basic idea is to establish a hierarchy of views for multi-package +applications. +These associations should be designated according to guidelines, which +are yet to be established, according to the best judgement of the packager. + +Otherwise I don't see how we can arrive at consistant and useful +associations, especially if being used by different applications, like +Rpmdrake and your (very interesting and useful) project. It is +important that such applications are able to discern these associations, +in order to display them. + +First it will be useful to look at the different types of associations : +1) Where usually all of the associated packages would be installed, such +as core packages of OpenOffice or Go-oo or LibreOffice. + +2) Where usually only one - or a few - of the associated packages would +be installed, such as localisations. + +3) Something in between, such as optional extensions for Firefox + +Probably the best way to associate packages is to use an additional tag +in the package spec file. In addition to the package "name" tag, have +an additional tag, let's call it "subname", for the associated package. +(Since I am only beginning to familiarise myself with the details of rpm +packaging, including the spec file, I don't know if an equivalent a tag +already exists. If not, I hope that there is no problem creating one.) + +For the first type of association described above, the key package would +have the "name" tag but not a "subname". The other core packages would +have the same "name" tag, being differentiated by a "subname" tag. + +For the other types of associations, there would be a meta package with +a distinct "name" tag; all the real packages using this distinct "name" +plus a differentiating "subname". +So an application could have its various packages divided into as many +groups as desired, with all but the core group subsidiary to a meta +package. I would suggest that generally one would not want more than 3 +groups for a large application, but this grouping would be left to the +packager. +As well, related but different applications could be grouped by this +method, using a task package. +In fact, all task packages could be made expandable to show the +contained packages. +In addition to exploring the contents, it would be useful for installing +part of a task package, by selecting the task and deselecting one or +more contained packages. +(I realise this applies more to Rpmdrake.) + +Since we are talking essentially about Mageia packages, this seems doable. + +Note that, without considering this approach, if one wishes to show only +"applications" and not other packages, in the current state of rpm +packaging, that is a highly speculative process. +Just look at the suggested list of "orphan" packages, produced by Rpmdrake. +(At least in my case, it always includes a number of useful - and +recently used - applications.) + +In terms of presentation, it would be useful if a folded association +group has an icon indicating if all/some/none of the contained packages +are selected. +E.g., the filled/greyed/empty box used by the (Gnome) Nautilus file +manager properties. + +This folded view has been discussed in general terms on Mandriva +lists/forums/bugzilla (I forget where) in the past, as well as recently +in Mageia lists. + +Note that there are many applications that are in a single package, +except for shared libraries. They, of course, will not be affected by +this folding approach. +However, in most package groups (as used by Rpmdrake, rpm spec files), +there is at least one application comprised of a considerable number of +packages. (See examples below.) + +><i> How can we do for libs which are shared by many different applications ? +</I>><i> +</I>It seems to me useful to keep shared libraries separate, as now. They +are generally now put in the Mandriva group system/libraries, or +development/libraries. +Usually users will not want to look at such a package, unless it is not +installed and specifically required by a third-party package (not in the +Mageia distro). + +><i> The idea sounds nice, but I'd like to see real examples, with answers to these questions :) +</I>><i> +</I>Some examples of the number of packages in multi-package applications, +by category : +(Packages with names starting the same word were assumed to be the same +application. Those with very different names were ignored. So much of +the core KDE packages would have been ignored, for example.) + +_Applications_ (for third party packages) +-- LibreOffice, OpenOffice (official) = each about 60 packages + +_Databases_ +-- Freedict dictionnary = about 50 +-- Gda +libgda = 14 +-- mysql = 7 +-- lbdb = 8 +-- postgresq = approx 50 +-- stardict = approx 180 + +_Office_ (Bureautique en français) +-- abiword = 4 +-- celtx = 8 +-- gnucash = 4 +-- libopensync = 14 +-- Openoffice (Go-oo version) = more than 170 + +_Communications_ +-- barry* (scripts for blackberry) = 6 +-- mgetty* = 5 + +_Development/other_ +-- eclipse = 6 +-- edos = 18 +-- erlang* = approx 70 +-- gambas = approx 44 +-- gcc = 15 +-- gcl = 9 +-- ghc = 4 +-- git = approx 10 + +_Development/C_ +-- apache = 12 +-- cross* (cross-compilers + preprocessors gnu) = 10 +-- gcc = 8 +-- libSDL = 12 +-- libavahi = 15 +-- libavc1394 (firewire) = 4 + +_Editors_ +-- emacs + xemacs = approx 40 +-- gedit = 5 +-- vim = 5 + +_Education_ +-- gcompris = 32 +-- pysycache = 15 + +_System/kernel+hardware_ +This category has many variations of the kernel and pilots, most +containing numerous versions, compiled for several processors and uses. +If each variation were collapsed to one line, one only need expand the +variation of interest to find the version one wishes to install, instead +of having to scan many hundreds of lines +If collapsed, it looks like it would take less than 10% as many lines. + +I'm sure that there are a lot of details needing more refinement. +><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> For downloads/installation, using Rpmdrake (or equivalent) would be +</I>>><i> preferable in most cases, as it could directly update the installed rpm +</I>>><i> database. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Installation from the website would not bypass media and rpm database. This would only be shortcuts. One thing the website can't know however is what packages are currently installed on your system, whereas rpmdrake can. I don't plan to find a way to make it know it for now (too much implications). +</I>><i> +</I>That's good. No point in unnecessarily complicating things. +>><i> However I think this project would be excellent for the other suggested +</I>>><i> uses. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks, we'll try to do it right :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +Great project. Really like how you're reaching out for input, too. +(Even if my ideas end up being too complicated to implement :) ) + +BTW, I've been looking at the packaging tutorials, looking forward to +getting started. + +À bientôt + +- André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2980">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2980">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2980">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2980">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002981.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002981.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..72221163b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002981.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090837.40741.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002978.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002982.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011090837.40741.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 08:37:40 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2981">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2981">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2981">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2981">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>"Erin Wilkins" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">erin at sea-dragon.net</A>> schrieb am 2010-11-09 +><i> Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run on +</I>><i> as wide a range of hardware as possible. +</I>Exactly! The problem is: the One shell run on all possible machines, so it +uses the i586 kernel. And there just is not enough space on a CD image to put +another kernel on it. +When you're installing from a Free you get the best kernel for your system. +With a 32bit system using less then approximately 4GB RAM you'll get the +Desktop (i686) kernel, when using more you'll get the Server kernel. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2981">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2981">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2981">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2981">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002982.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002982.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cba004bec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002982.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikVMvoWs1yQbzT8GD_kEaOhsME90%3DKQAFojJTnw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002981.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002983.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikVMvoWs1yQbzT8GD_kEaOhsME90%3DKQAFojJTnw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 11:37:12 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2982">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2982">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2982">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2982">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/11/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> + +><i> "Erin Wilkins" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">erin at sea-dragon.net</A>> schrieb am 2010-11-09 +</I>><i> > Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run +</I>><i> on +</I>><i> > as wide a range of hardware as possible. +</I>><i> Exactly! The problem is: the One shell run on all possible machines, so it +</I>><i> uses the i586 kernel. And there just is not enough space on a CD image to +</I>><i> put +</I>><i> another kernel on it. +</I>><i> When you're installing from a Free you get the best kernel for your system. +</I>><i> With a 32bit system using less then approximately 4GB RAM you'll get the +</I>><i> Desktop (i686) kernel, when using more you'll get the Server kernel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I> +Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the "free" one. The problem +is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the "Free" version of +Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. Thats also +what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is: + +1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD. +2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that ) +3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;) + +Thus our main "consumer" are going to DL the One iso. So we have to focus on +that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my System I am +not going to use it anymore. I mean what are the main diffrents of them? +Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and he is autodetecting the +System and config the Kernel that way. Is that possible or is then a new +building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the sulution. I mean where are +going to discuss here and it would realy be an improvment, when we allow +People to use a modern and fast kernel and not a kernel which is going to +slow the system ( well only a bit ) just because there are some people who +are proud the use a Pentium II CPU just to be cool. You can get a 64-bit CPU +computer for less then 200€. Thats not the problem in my eyes. +Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva. But not everyone +is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about a short +group of people. Maybe we should think that way. + +I hope you guys understand what I mean ;) + +Greetings + +Egon +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101109/4813d33f/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2982">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2982">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2982">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2982">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002983.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002983.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c58af9ebe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002983.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxf7UKLqZ9rJx1KgmZE9zCQ-iZujZ4D1-KCu%2BJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002982.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002984.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxf7UKLqZ9rJx1KgmZE9zCQ-iZujZ4D1-KCu%2BJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 12:04:35 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2983">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2983">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2983">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2983">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 9 November 2010 12:37, Egon Ashrafinia <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/11/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "Erin Wilkins" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">erin at sea-dragon.net</A>> schrieb am 2010-11-09 +</I>>><i> > Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> > > the i686 _IS_ the default one for x86 cpus +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > In the standard installer. But I believe ONE uses 586 to be able to run +</I>>><i> > on +</I>>><i> > as wide a range of hardware as possible. +</I>>><i> Exactly! The problem is: the One shell run on all possible machines, so it +</I>>><i> uses the i586 kernel. And there just is not enough space on a CD image to +</I>>><i> put +</I>>><i> another kernel on it. +</I>>><i> When you're installing from a Free you get the best kernel for your +</I>>><i> system. +</I>>><i> With a 32bit system using less then approximately 4GB RAM you'll get the +</I>>><i> Desktop (i686) kernel, when using more you'll get the Server kernel. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the "free" one. The problem +</I>><i> is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the "Free" version of +</I>><i> Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. Thats also +</I>><i> what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD. +</I>><i> 2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that ) +</I>><i> 3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thus our main "consumer" are going to DL the One iso. So we have to focus on +</I>><i> that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my System I am +</I>><i> not going to use it anymore. I mean what are the main diffrents of them? +</I>><i> Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and he is autodetecting the +</I>><i> System and config the Kernel that way. Is that possible or is then a new +</I>><i> building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the sulution. I mean where are +</I>><i> going to discuss here and it would realy be an improvment, when we allow +</I>><i> People to use a modern and fast kernel and not a kernel which is going to +</I>><i> slow the system ( well only a bit ) just because there are some people who +</I>><i> are proud the use a Pentium II CPU just to be cool. You can get a 64-bit CPU +</I>><i> computer for less then 200€. Thats not the problem in my eyes. +</I>><i> Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva. But not everyone +</I>><i> is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about a short +</I>><i> group of people. Maybe we should think that way. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope you guys understand what I mean ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Greetings +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Egon +</I>><i> +</I> +After installation and adding the online repos it's a matter of +install kernel-desktop-latest (and maybe kernel-desktop-devel-latest), +and the system will use kernel-desktop. After you're sure +kernel-desktop works you can uninstall kernel-desktop586. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2983">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2983">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2983">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2983">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002984.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002984.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2e0b3b204 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002984.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD92C52.7000102%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002983.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002985.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Thomas Backlund</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD92C52.7000102%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">tmb at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 12:11:14 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2984">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2984">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2984">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2984">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Egon Ashrafinia skrev 9.11.2010 12:37: +><i> Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the "free" one. The +</I>><i> problem is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the "Free" +</I>><i> version of Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. +</I>><i> Thats also what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD. +</I>><i> 2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that ) +</I>><i> 3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thus our main "consumer" are going to DL the One iso. So we have to +</I>><i> focus on that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my +</I>><i> System I am not going to use it anymore. +</I> + +The average user wont even know the difference of running i586 vs i686. +The poweruser wont have any problem switching kernel to i686. + + +><i> I mean what are the main +</I>><i> diffrents of them? Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and +</I>><i> he is autodetecting the System and config the Kernel that way. Is that +</I>><i> possible or is then a new building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the +</I>><i> sulution. +</I> +In order to ship both i586 and i686 kernel, it would need another ~50MB +of the already small CD. + +><i> I mean where are going to discuss here and it would realy be +</I>><i> an improvment, when we allow People to use a modern and fast kernel and +</I>><i> not a kernel which is going to slow the system ( well only a bit ) just +</I>><i> because there are some people who are proud the use a Pentium II CPU +</I>><i> just to be cool. +</I> +Actually there are even some Pentium D series (>1GHz CPU) that cant cope +with all i686 instructions. + +And it's not about "proud ... to be cool..." + +It might be all they can afford. +And also schools that get old hw for free also needs i586. + +><i> You can get a 64-bit CPU computer for less then 200€. +</I>><i> Thats not the problem in my eyes. +</I> +In your eyes only... + +200€ might for some people mean 1-3 months of food. + +><i> Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva. +</I> +Exactly. + +><i> But not +</I>><i> everyone is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about +</I>><i> a short group of people. Maybe we should think that way. +</I>><i> +</I> +So because people with new powerful hw cant be bothered to install +64bit, we should cut out those that have the need for i586 .. + +Trust me, That is not going to happend! + +What we do need to think about is a x86_64 live cd + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2984">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2984">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2984">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2984">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002985.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002985.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..325e909a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002985.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinP8kx5PK9sD72v4KFd6Pxv8Ye1hgUyptOVv4tk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002984.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002987.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinP8kx5PK9sD72v4KFd6Pxv8Ye1hgUyptOVv4tk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 12:15:46 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2985">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2985">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2985">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2985">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/11/9 Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at iki.fi</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> What we do need to think about is a x86_64 live cd +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Thomas +</I>><i> +</I> +Thats a good Idea. Cause Mandiva only has x84 as One iso's. +To the other point: +Sure ... you are right and I dont want it to sound like " I have an opinion +so we have to do it ". 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The problem +</I>><i> is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the "Free" version of +</I>><i> Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso. Thats also +</I>><i> what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD. +</I>><i> 2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that ) +</I>><i> 3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;) +</I>[...] + +I always used the dual arch Free CD to install and i'm pretty sure that's what +people use. so that's ~350MB for each arch... and everything works just as +well. + +we could have our liveCD detect the arch and download the i686 kernel package +and install those, if the livecd is being installed. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2987">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2987">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2987">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2987">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002988.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002988.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a9745bf2a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002988.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011092229.42584.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002979.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002978.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C201011092229.42584.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 22:29:42 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2988">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2988">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2988">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2988">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 04:38:06 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le mardi 09 novembre 2010 à 01:00 +0100, Egon Ashrafinia a écrit : +</I>><i> > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:38:14 +0100 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > Op dinsdag 09 november 2010 00:26:20 schreef Egon Ashrafinia: +</I>><i> > > > Hey guys :) +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > I'm new on the ML and now I have got something to discuss. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > In Mandriva 2010.1 and Cooker we have 2 sorts of Kernels. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > The first one is : kernel586-Desktop +</I>><i> > > > and the other one is : kernel-Desktop (i686) +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Do we need i586? I mean I alwys use i686 without any problems. Maybe +</I>><i> > > > we should remove i586 ... what do you think? +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Greeting +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Egon (Wubbbi) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > No, this has been discussed several times; some people need that +</I>><i> > > kernel; because this software still runs on pentium machines and they +</I>><i> > > are still being used. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But in my optinion we cant always support old Hardware. The Problem is +</I>><i> > that the i586 Kernel is not getting out the full Power of new CPUs like +</I>><i> > AMD K10 or the Intel iX. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On newer processors, just use a 64 bits distribution if your +</I>><i> preoccupation is to get the "full power" of your hardware. +</I> +actually, we should probably make i586 the default; because most new stuff is +x86_64 anyway... +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2988">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2988">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2988">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2988">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002989.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002989.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f39effaf1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/002989.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD9CADD.4050302%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002987.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002980.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling</H1> + <B>Egon Ashrafinia</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kernel%20handling&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD9CADD.4050302%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling">e.ashrafinia at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 9 23:27:41 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2989">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2989">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2989">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2989">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 09.11.2010 22:28, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: +><i> we could have our liveCD detect the arch and download the i686 kernel package +</I>><i> and install those, if the livecd is being installed. +</I> +Yeah! Thats a great idea. So on installation, we check, what arch or +what kind of processor the one is using and then we dynamicly DL the +i686 or keep the i586. Thats sound good. What do you other guys think +abot it? + +Greetings + +Egon +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kernel handling +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2989">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2989">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2989">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2989">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d7d6a059 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101109/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 November 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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