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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101024/002612.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101024/002612.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ee4376c89 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101024/002612.html @@ -0,0 +1,180 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] which version of a software in cauldron ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20which%20version%20of%20a%20software%20in%20cauldron%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC43081.4050004%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002611.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] which version of a software in cauldron ?</H1> + <B>Philippe DIDIER</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20which%20version%20of%20a%20software%20in%20cauldron%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC43081.4050004%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] which version of a software in cauldron ?">philippedidier at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 24 15:11:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the upcoming bugreporting-site (Bugzilla?) +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I want to point a little problem about the version of a FOO software +included in the distribution : + +two ways for cauldron + +1 ) Use always the last development release of FOO (beta or rc n+1) +(means several downloadings of sources from the svn or git of the +project, and several modifications of the spec file and patches) +a) advantages for the packager : you are always able to build the rpm by +adapting its spec file progressively, following the changes of the FOO +software + +b) Problem for a tester of this FOO (n+1) software (I mean somebody +wanting to contribute to the FOO project) : if you use cauldron to test +it, you may encounter bugs and may not know if they belongs to cauldron +or to the FOO (beta n+1) software + +c) Problem for the final user : when cauldron is frozen before the final +release of Mageia, it may be frozen with a beta release of this software +(n+1), still buggy ! and that's this buggy (beta or rc n+1) version +which will be provided with the final release of Mageia. + +d) needs some acute attention from the packager : when a final release +of the FOO (n+1)program appears and is packaged in cauldron : he MUST +provide it in the updates repos of the last releases of Mageia (2011, 2012) + + +2) Use only the last stable version of FOO (n) in cauldron : +a) advantages for the packager : needs less frequent modifications of +the spec files and uses of the buildsystem + +b) problem for the packager : needs a huge work in one time to adapt the +spec file from (n) version to (n+1) + +c) Problem for the tester contributer of the FOO program : he can never +test the betas or release candidates with rpms from Mageia + +d) advantages for the final user : Mageia final release is always +providing a stable release of the FOO software + +e) when a new stable version (n+1) of the FOO software appears, the +packager may provide it to cauldron and to the updates repos of the last +releases of Mageia (2011, 2012) in the same time BUT !!! these rpms +haven't been tested as well as in first case (NB I'm not talking only of +installing the packages but of the FOO program itself too, sometimes the +FOO program needs some little adaptations for a particular distribution, +and needs upstream feedback for this) + + + + +A testing repo for the release of Mageia (2011, 2012) should be useful ! +but it can be understood in two different ways : + +1 ) It provides the rpm of the new stable release of FOO (n+1) +(published after the last version of Mageia 2012, and having yet been +built for cauldron) to test if the rpm is OK before providing it as an +update for Mageia (2011,2012) (eventually needing modifications of the +spec file or needing upstream bug corrections to adapt the software for +Mageia specificity) + +or +2) It provides rpms of development versions (betas, rc) of FOO (n+1) to +test and contribute to FOO project on a stable basis from Mageia before +providing a rpm of the stable release of FOO (n+1) to updates repos and, +in a second time only, the devs will adapt the spec files to Cauldron +(the cauldron dev will not have to loose time with a buggy software !) + + +To illustrate what I mean : + +An example with a software which has _always_ been _up to date in +cooker _ following each beta or rc release, but unfortunately badly +affordable in Mandriva releases: + +Mandrake 10.2 *hugin** 0.5-0.beta4.1* (not easy to use) BAD +Mandriva 2006 *hugin* *0.5-0.rc1* (freezes) BAD +0.5 final release was never provided as update for Mandriva BAD +Mandriva 2007.0 *hugin* *0.6.1* final release OK stable +Mandriva 2007.1 *hugin* *0.6.1* final release OK stable +Mandriva 2008.0 *hugin* *0.6.1* final release OK stable +Mandriva 2008.1 *hugin* *0.7-0beta4.1* BAD +Mandriva 2009.0 *hugin* *0.7.0-0rc6.1* BAD +*hugin* *0.7.0* final stable release was never provided as update nor +backport for Mandriva 2009.0 nor 2008.1 BAD +nor provided for Mandriva 2009.1 BAD : +Mandriva 2009.1 *hugin* *0.8.0-0.beta2.1* BAD +*hugin 0.8* final release was never provided as update nor backport to +2009.1 BAD +Mandriva 2010.0 *hugin 2009.2.0* (new version numbering) OK stable +Mandriva 2010.1 *hugin* * 2009.4.0* _(quite_) OK stable +*hugin* * 2010.0.0* published before Mandriva 2010.1 appears was not +included in it nor provided as update nor backport for Mandriva +*hugin 2010.2.0* published 10 october 2010 is in cooker .... + +*Please keep it and use it for Mageia* + + +Sidetalk : I tried to compile hugin 0.7.0 or 0.8.0 final release for +Mandriva 2008.1, it was not doable : from hugin 0.7.0 rc4 compiling +hugin needed cmake : cmake(2.4.8) was buggy , not able to find the +wxwidgets headers, and was never corrected nor updated for Mandriva +2008.1... +cmake had been updated for Mandriva 2009.0 but not backportable as it in +Mandriva 2008.1... +I had to use a srpm of cmake from fedora (2.6.2-3fc9) and could at least +do it for myself + +For French readers it has already been discussed on Mandriva forum : +<A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=114405&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hugin">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=114405&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hugin</A> +<<A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=114405&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hugin">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=114405&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hugin</A>> + + +Hope this will help to think about repo trees ! +Philippe + + + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the upcoming bugreporting-site (Bugzilla?) +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |