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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002531.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002531.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..690d454f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002531.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021005241.71b6b0b3%40werewolf.home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002532.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>J.A. Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021005241.71b6b0b3%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:52:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:22:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> 1. At Mandriva we already had different ISOs for 32- and 64-bit, which +</I>><i> we should do as well. So this question about the arch during +</I>><i> installation is obsolete. +</I>><i> +</I> +One idea about archs... + +Nowadays, all boxes are 64bit. Even a low-end netbook I bought recently +(aspireone 532h) has an Atom N450, which is 64 bit, and has 1Gb of +RAM. I think the user should not have to decide which ISO he has +to download. If he knows nothin, would not know the difference +between 32 and 64 bit. And if he is informed, he will always have +the doubt if he should install the 64 or the 32 bit version on +a core2 (do I have more than 3Gb ? will it be slower or faster ?). + +I think the 64 bit distro now works prefectly. The only things that +mainstream users always missed on 64 bits are java and flash, +and now you have both (well, flash 'square' is still rc, but...). + +I would do a couple things: +- pull a selector in the download site that allows the user to + select his CPU. Perhaps he doesn't know if it is 32 or 64 bits, + but sure he knows it is an Intel Core 2 Duo or a Pentium4 or + an Athlon X3. Send him to the 64 bit version unless it is a + pentium4 or lower. +- put a check in the 32 bit ISO that shows a BIG SCREEN in case + that the processor is 64 bit capable that says 'Sorry to have + wasted your bandwidth, but your box will run better with the + 64 bit version, you have a XXXXX Korethlon X7. Go mageia.org + and pick the best distro for your computer.' + +Guide people to 64 bits... +This is also a good impression for people, 'hey, I run exactly the +same system on my desktop than on my laptop...'. And nobody will +kill you with things like 'I added 4gb more RAM, it was cheap, +but Mageia dont see them!!!'. + +><i> 2. A difference between desktop/laptop/mobile should be on "task" +</I>><i> level like the meta-task scripts we had at Mandriva. I don't think +</I>><i> there should be a real special distribution for any purpose. There are +</I>><i> special Mandriva editions für netbooks (meego), for machines with +</I>><i> poor ressources (LXDE Edition), etc. Such special editions used to be +</I>><i> created by groups inside the community, we can do it likewise. +</I> +Even that are needed. In my N450 I run exactly the same soft than +in my desktop. I want firefox, claws, gcc, openoffice, gnome... +and all work perfectly. I used to run the same even on a N270 with +8Gb SSD. Why do you heed a special ISO to let the user install +LXDE ? At most, you could 'recommend' a desktop environment based +on hardware profile, but as I said I was perfectly happy running +a full gnome DE on the N270. +The limit is the size of the DVD media, sadly... +BTW, there are things that can be adapted to make the distro look +much better on low profile machines, for example, forget +compiz and set byt default metacity 'compositing_manager' flag. +It makes your netbook look awesome and is fast, even on i915. +Try it. I never went back to compiz again, I just like window +shadows. + +Things like MeeGo are apart, that is a special environment nearer +to Android that to a standard linux install. + +><i> +</I>><i> So, my vote goes to the "one Mageia edition" solution with room for +</I>><i> any other special enhancements to be created by community groups like +</I>><i> the XFCE group, the LXDE group (MUD), the Meego group, etc. At least +</I>><i> for the start. If we have the ressources and if there is a demand for +</I>><i> such special editions we can see to that later after the main +</I>><i> distribution is rolling. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW: "Mobile Linux" for mobile phones is Android and I don't think +</I>><i> anyone could beat that on the market. We should not bother with that. +</I> +And I dont think no 'standard user' is going to break his Galaxy Tab. + +-- +J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()ono!com> \ Software is like sex: + \ It's better when it's free +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002532.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002532.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..380255316 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002532.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbktfKHib_1Uz%3DXsTdW4_1TA%3DWxacsrGStM2UU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002531.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002533.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbktfKHib_1Uz%3DXsTdW4_1TA%3DWxacsrGStM2UU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 01:16:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2532">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2532">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2532">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2532">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/21 J.A. Magallón <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jamagallon at ono.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Nowadays, all boxes are 64bit. Even a low-end netbook I bought recently +</I>><i> (aspireone 532h) has an Atom N450, which is 64 bit, and has 1Gb of +</I>><i> RAM. +</I> +Hmm, I have 2 boxes here which refuse installation of a 64-bit +Mandriva. One is a Netbook 1 year old. I am sure that many people +still have 32-bit machines. One of the slogans of Linux is its low +resources profile, how many times did I read that people took their +machine which will not run Windows Vista and installed Linux, saving +them from buying a new machine? + +><i> +</I>><i> Even that are needed. In my N450 I run exactly the same soft than +</I>><i> in my desktop. +</I> +Yes, that's what I do as well. But many machines especially in the +Linux community are not powerful enough for the "I want it all" +approach. That's why we created the LXDE edition and it was welcomed +very nicely by the community (read the forum threads about it). + +So, yes, For me, myself, and mine I'm with you to have one general +"all inclusive" DVD (exclusive games and education editions), but that +does not prevent the communities or single people to create special +purpose editions. I did not say that such editions are a must-have :) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2532">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2532">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2532">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2532">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002533.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002533.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..66dcd0c72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002533.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBF8231.6030600%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002532.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002534.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBF8231.6030600%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 01:58:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2533">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2533">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2533">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2533">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Hmm, I have 2 boxes here which refuse installation of a 64-bit +</I>><i> Mandriva. One is a Netbook 1 year old. I am sure that many people +</I>><i> still have 32-bit machines. One of the slogans of Linux is its low +</I>><i> resources profile, how many times did I read that people took their +</I>><i> machine which will not run Windows Vista and installed Linux, saving +</I>><i> them from buying a new machine? +</I>><i> +</I> +It's perfectly possible to probe a machine for x86_64 capability. The +real issue is how much you can fit on a DVD. However, we have the +option to say "if you want to do a network install, you can boot a small +ISO, but if you want everything offline, you'll need to download 2 (or +3, or 4) DVDs". + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2533">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2533">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2533">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2533">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002534.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002534.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2a78419c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002534.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021130521.2c57aceb.john%40neodoc.biz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002533.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002535.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>John</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021130521.2c57aceb.john%40neodoc.biz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">john at neodoc.biz + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 02:05:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2534">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2534">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2534">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2534">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:09:07 +0200 +Kristoffer Grundström wrote: + +><i> Right, but for thoose who doesn't need or want to read tons & tons of +</I>><i> unimportant info. +</I>><i> +</I> +Once again, please do not top post, thanks. + +And once again, while the suggestion of a video (or even a slide +presentation) is a good idea, those users who don't have access to fast +connections has been forgotten! + +I remind everyone here (once again?) that a very large proportion of the +worlds population still doesn't have access to POTS let alone suitable +Wi-Fi for downloading large files inexpensively. + +If we "target" this project "correctly/accurately/whatever" a large(ish) +number of new users and contributers could come from this demographic. + +John NZ +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2534">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2534">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2534">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2534">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002535.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002535.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6f5eed36a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002535.html @@ -0,0 +1,191 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20logo%20proposals%20and%20selection&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFC8AA.7040503%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002534.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002537.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20logo%20proposals%20and%20selection&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFC8AA.7040503%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 06:59:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2535">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2535">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2535">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2535">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Frank Griffin a écrit : +><i> Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> So, I'm sorry but I agree with the people who want to target this +</I>>><i> "ordinary people". Because I don't think that making Mageia easier and +</I>>><i> friendly hurt or damage advanced users. Linux will be always powerful, +</I>>><i> with the right packages. And any advanced user can make "urpmi +</I>>><i> my-advanced-packages" whenever he/she needs. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We need to attract more non-linux users. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> This is getting very repetitive. Your argument, and the arguments of +</I>><i> those who argue your point of view all make perfect sense and flow +</I>><i> logically, *IF* you accept the premise that the mission of Mageia is to +</I>><i> entice computer-ignorant or computer-antagonistic people, or even just +</I>><i> non-linux newbies, to use Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This *might* be a given if Mageia was a company organized to make a +</I>><i> profit. But it's not. It's a group of primarily technical people who +</I>><i> decided to fork Mandriva because they felt that the technical excellence +</I>><i> of the distro was being compromised by Mandriva's corporate goals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In a perfect world, where volunteer labor was in infinite supply, and +</I>><i> was paid solely in terms of satisfaction that what they achieved met +</I>><i> their own goals, a community distro would be built up of layers, each +</I>><i> building on the ones below it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Developers would not need to care about appealing to users on any level +</I>><i> other than providing needed function. They would produce non-GUI +</I>><i> components which had enough configurable options to satisfy anyone from +</I>><i> your grandma to Linus Torvalds. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Other developers who were so inclined would write GUI interfaces to +</I>><i> these services which exposed all of this flexibility, or most of it, or +</I>><i> some of it, or very little of it, depending on whether they were +</I>><i> producing a UI aimed at Linus or grandma or someone in between. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The same would go for installs: the base install would be componentized +</I>><i> and configurable and open, and interested parties would customize this +</I>><i> for a variety of target audiences. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The FOSS world isn't perfect, but only in the sense that the volunteer +</I>><i> labor supply isn't infinite. Without an infinite supply, the activities +</I>><i> that don't get performed for resource reasons will be determined by the +</I>><i> satisfaction metric - if the target audience isn't important enough to +</I>><i> some group of technical people to impel them to customize a UI and an +</I>><i> install (and documentation) for that target audience, then that audience +</I>><i> won't see their needs addressed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the corporate world, you have to make a profit. Because you have +</I>><i> limited resources, and because you can't risk basing your enterprise on +</I>><i> packages you don't control, you have to address all of the above tasks +</I>><i> with a finite pool of resources. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Because of that, you can't afford to design your distro to be +</I>><i> configurable and flexible enough to even *potentially* please every set +</I>><i> of target users. Since the number of target user groups determines the +</I>><i> amount of resource you need to satisfy them, it follows that you have to +</I>><i> limit that number in order to satisfy your chosen group or groups with +</I>><i> the resources you can afford. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is where marketing becomes invaluable; it uses quantitative +</I>><i> analyses to determine which target group(s) represent the greatest +</I>><i> potential for profit, and the result of those analyses will determine +</I>><i> what development works on, what the tools look like, and what the +</I>><i> install looks like. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you accept that the marketing results must be correct, then it makes +</I>><i> no sense for development to build flexibility into software that will +</I>><i> never be used, or for the install team to allow for any install paradigm +</I>><i> that isn't directly oriented to your target user groups. Basically, +</I>><i> marketing drives the truck, and every group associated with production +</I>><i> centers their activity on marketing's objectives. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This minimizes development costs, and will produce the greatest profit +</I>><i> from the number of sales made. Developers are hired to do only that +</I>><i> work that supports marketing's directives, and the theory is that they +</I>><i> work primarily for the money. They are controlled by Marketing, which +</I>><i> derives its authority from the owners or shareholders ("stakeholders" to +</I>><i> use the fashionable economics term). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ***That said***,,, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mageia is not a company. We have no shareholders, and no financial hold +</I>><i> over the developers. No marketing group has directorial authority over +</I>><i> the developers, because there is no "stakeholder" group which can grant +</I>><i> that authority. No number of users suborned from Windows or Mac or +</I>><i> Ubuntu puts a penny into the pockets of anyone involved in Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Saying "we believe that a large number of users will switch to Mageia if +</I>><i> we limit our focus to such-and-such" is interesting and may even be +</I>><i> accurate. It is also immaterial, unless the validity of the statement +</I>><i> somehow gives you the authority to direct the actions of the others +</I>><i> involved in Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In FOSS, it doesn't. If enough people agree with your objective, you +</I>><i> may find that you have enough critical mass to produce a derived distro +</I>><i> with a face and personality which matches your objectives. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But to say that the entire community has to direct and/or limit their +</I>><i> efforts to your target group just because you can demonstrate that you +</I>><i> can wean them away from some other product ignores the fact that such a +</I>><i> goal may give no or even negative satisfaction to those expected to do +</I>><i> the technical work. That's not to say that they dispute your skills in +</I>><i> determining a target market, but simply that they derive no satisfaction +</I>><i> in doing or limiting their work to address that market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Graham is fond of saying that "you can't be all things to all people", +</I>><i> but that's only true in the area of the spectrum where his skills come +</I>><i> into play. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In development, the entire concept of Software Architecture and +</I>><i> Component-Driven design is directed towards producing components with +</I>><i> enough flexibility to be configured for any possible use of the +</I>><i> functionality represented by that component. When not constrained by +</I>><i> the profit motive, development will produce flexible and adaptable +</I>><i> components, and rely on upstream integrators to tailor or limit their +</I>><i> function to a particular market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In reality, this often aligns with the profit motive, since (oh horrors) +</I>><i> it actually may happen that Marketing is wrong, in which case the +</I>><i> company is at least left with saleable software assets as opposed to +</I>><i> software locked into a vision which didn't work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The significant costs of trying to be all things to all people, both in +</I>><i> resource cost and opportunity cost, come much further up the product +</I>><i> development chain, in QA, documentation, marketing, sales focus, and +</I>><i> other such non-development areas. That's where you have to decide which +</I>><i> way(s) to go, to the exclusion of others, not at the development layer. +</I>><i> +</I>Right on the mark :) +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2535">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2535">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2535">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2535">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002536.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002536.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f8e120d23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002536.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDA0E.4080308%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002537.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002538.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDA0E.4080308%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:13:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2536">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2536">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2536">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2536">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Le 2010-10-19 13:30, George J. Walsh a écrit : +</I>>><i> Morning, Marc: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I sent a private note to Florin, supporting his wish for gaming support +</I>>><i> in Mageia because of the Mandriva history of attempting to offer a full +</I>>><i> package for users. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That got me thinking about the possible use of a 'meta task' setup to +</I>>><i> handle major divisions. After all, that's what MCC attempts to install +</I>>><i> web services, desktops, data bases and printers. So why not gaming? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As I explained to Florin, it is my feeling that there is a lot of gaming +</I>>><i> out there which is commercial and therefore not even ported to Linux, +</I>>><i> but then again, I just don't know. (I don't play games :-)) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I also explained my geekiness was more in the world of psychobabble than +</I>>><i> with computerese. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> By the way, nice to have an exchange with a fellow Canadian. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The best, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> George +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks, nice to exchange with you as well. Hope the Gaming support +</I>><i> comes through. We will see what we can do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> Waterloo ON Canada +</I>><i> Marketing Team Member +</I> +Note that there are already quite a few games on the Mandriva free dvd, +in the contrib section. So it's just a matter of adding a Gaming group, +and possible a Gaming task option. +This would work really well with a tree selection, where one could +select the group (Gaming), and/or deselect/select individual +applications. Since gamers could well have a good idea of their game +preferences. +Also note that many commercial games have a free (at least in cost) +Linux version. + +(That makes at least 3 Canadians here.) + +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2536">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2536">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2536">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2536">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002537.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002537.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..967f902e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002537.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021060757.GA25027%40maude.comedia.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002535.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002536.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Luca Berra</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021060757.GA25027%40maude.comedia.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">bluca at vodka.it + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:07:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2537">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2537">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2537">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2537">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 03:41:05PM +0200, Kristoffer Grundström wrote: +><i>For newbies I think it's a great idea to make the installer easy to understand. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Therefor I'd like to suggest that the installer would function like a +</I>><i>questionaire-form. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>For instance: +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Do you intend to install Mageia on a: +</I>... +><i>What arch does your CPU have? +</I>... +><i>And so on..........................to tailor-make the installation +</I>><i>after what he/she wants it to be like. +</I> +i think the current installer already guesses some of the above + +><i>I know it would take some time to finish it, but the result will be in +</I>><i>their favour. +</I>i am afraid a newbie wont know the 'right' answer to most of the +questions. + +><i>When it comes to the development of the unstable version, why not do +</I>><i>nightly build-isos? +</I> +are you going to host them or your own mirror? + +I'd rather provide something like jigdo, so users can build their own +isos. + +><i>That would help users to install Mageia by NOT using the netboot-iso +</I>><i>or by upgrading from the stable which isn't recommended today & to see +</I>why is not upgrading from stable to cooker not recommended? + +><i>where there are any issues. Sometimes the netboot-iso won't install +</I>><i>'cause the mirror isn't answering properly. +</I>with the existance of multiple mirrors the installer should be able to +switch to a different one if the current one fails. + +L. + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2537">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2537">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2537">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2537">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002538.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002538.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3173df9ec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002538.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021061936.GB25027%40maude.comedia.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002536.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002542.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>Luca Berra</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021061936.GB25027%40maude.comedia.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">bluca at vodka.it + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:19:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2538">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2538">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2538">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2538">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 02:13:34AM -0400, andré wrote: +><i> Note that there are already quite a few games on the Mandriva free dvd, in +</I>><i> the contrib section. So it's just a matter of adding a Gaming group, and +</I>><i> possible a Gaming task option. +</I>afair a Games rpm group has always existed. + +><i> This would work really well with a tree selection, where one could select +</I>><i> the group (Gaming), and/or deselect/select individual applications. Since +</I>><i> gamers could well have a good idea of their game preferences. +</I>which afair is already possible with the installer + +><i> Also note that many commercial games have a free (at least in cost) Linux +</I>><i> version. +</I>which won't ever be included in mageia + +L. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2538">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2538">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2538">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2538">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002539.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002539.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ac667f317 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002539.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDC65.7020408%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002543.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002540.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDC65.7020408%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:23:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002540.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2539">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2539">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2539">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2539">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Kira a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> 在 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:53:00 +0800, Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>>寫道: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> My idea was, as George said, an meta-task that installs, over the GUI +</I>>><i> of your +</I>>><i> choice, a kind of game catalog very simple to use. +</I>>><i> To push it further, I imagine something like "Game Market Place" app +</I>>><i> from where +</I>>><i> one can install all the frre/open source games already available in +</I>>><i> the distro, +</I>>><i> but also the possibility to buy the commercial ones, like steam :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If I'm so in advance with my ideas please tell me to STOP :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The similar idea has been discussed in the blog of one developer, +</I>><i> (Federik Crozat? I forget.) Actually we already have the structure, +</I>><i> just like in form of rpmdrake, but currently rpmdrake is still package +</I>><i> centered, not program centered. If we can manage the package installation +</I>><i> process by the name of program, and let the part of installed package +</I>><i> showed in the expert, then we are very close to the idea. +</I>><i> AFAIK, there's been a proposal about having screenshot in the rpmdrake +</I>><i> before? +</I>><i> Maybe this idea should be consider together. +</I> +If you know the name of a program you want to install, just enter the +name in the search field of Rpmdrake. Very fast, and you can search by +other fields than the name of the program (which is the default). + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002540.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2539">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2539">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2539">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2539">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002540.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002540.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d25653eab --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002540.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDF82.9000602%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002539.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002541.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFDF82.9000602%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:36:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002539.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002541.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2540">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2540">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2540">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2540">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Frederic Janssens a écrit : +><i> Some remarks about the Mageia Code of Conduct proposal +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=codeofconduct">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=codeofconduct</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the part +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "Our community is made up of a number of individuals and organizations +</I>><i> which can roughly be divided into two groups: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * +</I>><i> Contributors, or those who add value to the project through +</I>><i> improving distribution and any project from Mageia +</I>><i> * +</I>><i> Users, or those who add value to the project through their +</I>><i> support as users of Mageia" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> should be reformulated. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There have been several proposals in the ML in favor of making it +</I>><i> easyer for users to participate more actively in the Mageia Project. +</I>><i> The aim is to lower the threshold for active participation : help in +</I>><i> the ML's or Forums, help to report bugs, ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I think that should be reflected in this document by avoiding to +</I>><i> suggest that one must be in the one or the other category. We should +</I>><i> emphasise that there is a continuum of involvement, not a jump into +</I>><i> another status. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Frederic +</I> +Maybe we should stress *roles*, which of course can overlap. +Perhaps something like : +" ... who have many roles, such as : + + Developing, who develop the software + + Packaging ... + + Quality assurance ... + + Translating ... + + Mentoring on the forums ... + + Bug reporters ... + + Users ... " + +Of course, only the last is not necessarily a contributor, in the larger +sense of the word. + +my 2 cents + +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002539.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002541.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2540">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2540">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2540">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2540">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002541.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002541.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dac0dd63e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002541.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dy6LjxdSyc4JiWob9G28Q5j3UeL7_e_hW5ZLC4%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002540.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002545.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dy6LjxdSyc4JiWob9G28Q5j3UeL7_e_hW5ZLC4%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 08:49:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002540.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002545.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2541">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2541">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2541">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2541">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/21 andré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +><i>    + Users ... " +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, only the last is not necessarily a contributor, in the larger +</I>><i> sense of the word. +</I> +In the larger sense he is one of the most important. He does the +footwork in spreading the distribution and the brand. + +But, as I already wrote: why not erase the complete chapter "Our +community is made up..." It does not add anything relevant to the CoC. +This chapter gives information about the community, but a CoC is not +there to give information, it is there to give advice and a set of +rules for communication / interaction. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002540.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002545.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2541">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2541">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2541">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2541">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002542.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002542.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8964b23a7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002542.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFE5F0.4000709%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002538.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002546.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C4CBFE5F0.4000709%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 09:04:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2542">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2542">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2542">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2542">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Luca Berra a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 02:13:34AM -0400, andré wrote: +</I>>><i> Note that there are already quite a few games on the Mandriva free +</I>>><i> dvd, in the contrib section. So it's just a matter of adding a +</I>>><i> Gaming group, and possible a Gaming task option. +</I>><i> afair a Games rpm group has always existed. +</I>I'm talking about adding group in the dvd installation process, on the +same level as server, etc. + +><i> This would work really well with a tree selection, where one could +</I>><i> select the group (Gaming), and/or deselect/select individual +</I>><i> applications. Since gamers could well have a good idea of their game +</I>><i> preferences. +</I>><i> which afair is already possible with the installer +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Also note that many commercial games have a free (at least in cost) +</I>>><i> Linux version. +</I>><i> which won't ever be included in mageia +</I>And why not ? If I'm not mistaken, at least some of the games in +Mandriva have a commercial version. As does OpenOffice, for example. +><i> +</I>><i> L. +</I> +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2542">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2542">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2542">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2542">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002543.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002543.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4f0f0a958 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002543.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C201010210915.56379.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, only the last is not necessarily a contributor, in the larger +</I>><i> sense of the word. +</I> +Contributes to the spreading by existing, group pressure ;) +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002549.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2544">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2544">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2544">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2544">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002545.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002545.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a51468b1d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002545.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim30tU65xohq--HU8ogzU_TjMx1Vq0F4Nwmmpxi%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002541.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002548.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim30tU65xohq--HU8ogzU_TjMx1Vq0F4Nwmmpxi%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 09:42:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002541.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002548.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2545">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2545">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2545">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2545">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:49, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> But, as I already wrote: why not erase the complete chapter "Our +</I>><i> community is made up..." It does not add anything relevant to the CoC. +</I>><i> This chapter gives information about the community, but a CoC is not +</I>><i> there to give information, it is there to give advice and a set of +</I>><i> rules for communication / interaction. +</I> +Agreed. That would keep the CoC on focus. + +Excellent points nonetheless about the wording - this could be reused +in an other presentation document about the project and the community. + + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002541.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002548.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2545">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2545">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2545">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2545">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002546.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002546.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..435522c48 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002546.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinsuSUQBgJK0yB63wEq0p2850fRVKS_H%2BEEiYh1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002542.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002543.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinsuSUQBgJK0yB63wEq0p2850fRVKS_H%2BEEiYh1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 13:49:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2546">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2546">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2546">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2546">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 09:04, andré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>> wrote: +><i> Luca Berra a écrit : +</I>>><i> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 02:13:34AM -0400, andré wrote: +</I>>>><i> Also note that many commercial games have a free (at least in cost) Linux +</I>>>><i> version. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> which won't ever be included in mageia +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And why not ?  If I'm not mistaken, at least some of the games in Mandriva +</I>><i> have a commercial version.  As does OpenOffice, for example. +</I> +Moreover, nothing would prevent a (or severals) repository for games, +commercial software (ie, paid for), even proprietary software, to be +setup specifically for Mageia. Not our focus at this time, but there +no prevention from that. + +Whether it is included as a default repository or not, whether we +provide info/links/facilities for it ("app store" like), whether it +actually gets populated with great content and gets used are other +points. + +Romain +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2546">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2546">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2546">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2546">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002547.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002547.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6ec3a5125 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002547.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211947.47271.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002544.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C201010211947.47271.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 19:47:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002544.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2547">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2547">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2547">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2547">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 20 oktober 2010 15:41:05 schreef Kristoffer Grundström: +><i> For newbies I think it's a great idea to make the installer easy to +</I>><i> understand. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Therefor I'd like to suggest that the installer would function like a +</I>><i> questionaire-form. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For instance: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you intend to install Mageia on a: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. Desktop. +</I>><i> 2. Laptop. +</I>><i> 3. Mobile +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What arch does your CPU have? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. i586. +</I>><i> 2. x86_64 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And so on..........................to tailor-make the installation +</I>><i> after what he/she wants it to be like. +</I>><i> I know it would take some time to finish it, but the result will be in +</I>><i> their favour. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- +</I>><i> ---------------------------------------- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When it comes to the development of the unstable version, why not do +</I>><i> nightly build-isos? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That would help users to install Mageia by NOT using the netboot-iso +</I>><i> or by upgrading from the stable which isn't recommended today & to see +</I>><i> where there are any issues. Sometimes the netboot-iso won't install +</I>><i> 'cause the mirror isn't answering properly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /Kristoffer +</I> +imo, this kind of thing is better, if one would like to make a custom iso, in +a webapplication project: + +you fill in a couple of questionaires; and you see the total estimated size of +the iso file. afterwards there could even be manual package selection. + +and press submit and you get an iso file to download. + +for the installer, newbies don't want any questions at all; they would like to +prefer everything just installs and works. + +even the DE choice is bordering on the "maybe too far". allthough i would +allow it, since it gives an example look. + +the group selection of "office, docs, devel, gaming, servers, ..." is enough, +imo. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002544.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2547">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2547">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2547">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2547">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002548.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002548.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bfc90ff0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002548.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC08C08.8050809%40WayneSallee.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002545.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002549.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Wayne Sallee</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC08C08.8050809%40WayneSallee.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct">Wayne at WayneSallee.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 20:52:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002545.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002549.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2548">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2548">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2548">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2548">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Romain d'Alverny wrote on 10/21/2010 03:42 AM: +><i> Agreed. That would keep the CoC on focus. +</I>><i> Excellent points nonetheless about the wording - this could be reused +</I>><i> in an other presentation document about the project and the community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I>Yep that's right. + +Wayne Sallee +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002545.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002549.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2548">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2548">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2548">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2548">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002549.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002549.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..843404534 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/002549.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3Ci9q58l%24jau%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002548.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002544.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20about%20the%20Mageia%20Code%20of%20Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3Ci9q58l%24jau%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 21:45:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002548.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002544.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2549">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2549">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2549">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2549">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-21 03:42, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:49, Wolfgang Bornath<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> But, as I already wrote: why not erase the complete chapter "Our +</I>>><i> community is made up..." It does not add anything relevant to the CoC. +</I>>><i> This chapter gives information about the community, but a CoC is not +</I>>><i> there to give information, it is there to give advice and a set of +</I>>><i> rules for communication / interaction. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Agreed. That would keep the CoC on focus. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Excellent points nonetheless about the wording - this could be reused +</I>><i> in an other presentation document about the project and the community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> +</I> +Now that I re-read it, having this section is really not that important. +We have most likely defined the definition of a user and of contributors +(both = members -- I think this is being discussed on another thread) in +another section. No need to re-define it. Otherwise, we should just +copy/paste from the definition from the section where it defines who is +a user/contributor. + +Anyway, I agree with Wobo also, in that, you could just delete this and, +in my opinion, it would then seem to enlarge its meaning as if to +suggest members (users and contributors) and any other person (visitor). +Removing it just seems to make it more universal rather than selective. + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002548.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002544.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2549">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2549">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2549">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2549">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c4a8a63b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101021/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 21 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>21 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Oct 21 00:52:41 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Oct 21 21:45:24 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 19<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="002537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A><A NAME="2537"> </A> +<I>Luca Berra +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A><A NAME="2538"> </A> +<I>Luca Berra +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A><A NAME="2532"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002541.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="2541"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A><A NAME="2533"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A><A NAME="2534"> </A> +<I>John +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A><A NAME="2543"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002544.html">[Mageia-discuss] about the Mageia Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="2544"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A><A NAME="2531"> </A> +<I>J.A. 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