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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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Pushing always more stuff 'by default' doesn't +</I>>>><i> help +</I>>>><i> users to make educated choices. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On one hand I agree, on the other hand - we want a distribution +</I>>><i> which +</I>>><i> simply works and common choices are made (like which firewall) from +</I>>><i> the +</I>>><i> distro side - a good enough Sysadmin can then change to his/her +</I>>><i> liking +</I>>><i> afterwards. This is more or less a distro "philosophy" question, +</I>>><i> but +</I>>><i> look why "Mint" has become so popular - because many choices are +</I>>><i> made +</I>>><i> upfront for the user - yet the flexibility is in the system (and +</I>>><i> enough +</I>>><i> packages) for an advanced user to change them! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As long as the default settings are documented upfront - I see no +</I>>><i> issue +</I>>><i> in making such a decision on behalf of the "average" user - and +</I>>><i> making a +</I>>><i> more security robust distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yup, I agree with this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm know my way around sufficiently that I can happily change the +</I>><i> stuff +</I>><i> I don't like. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think we do have to pick reasonably sensible defaults. Ultimately +</I>><i> that's what msec does too - defines sensible defaults for the +</I>><i> security +</I>><i> level picked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So overall I'd welcome a default setup that allows things to be more +</I>><i> secure/robust by default (obviously balanced against user experience +</I>><i> - +</I>><i> e.g. a *very* secure setup would be to ban all traffic in or out... +</I>><i> but +</I>><i> that's not a nice user experience :D). +</I>><i> +</I> +If you are referring to a firewall, banning "all traffic in or out" +does not make sense. I'm sure we are all familiar with concept of +Stateful Inspection. + + +-- +finid + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="022972.html">[Mageia-dev] Fail2Ban vs Blockhosts vs DenyHosts vs iptable throttle for SSH +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="022980.html">[Mageia-dev] Fail2Ban vs Blockhosts vs DenyHosts vs iptable throttle for SSH +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#22973">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#22973">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#22973">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#22973">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |