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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE> On 1 April 2013 17:54, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dash-static requires the &quot;mail&quot; group defined by setup package.
+</I>
+For which file?
+I failed to see that.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So really glibc requires dash-static which requires setup which requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> glibc and shadow-utils and run-parts...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want to add this loop?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd suggest we should rejig setup to not have a hard require on glibc,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shadow-utils and run-parts but still run it's current scripts if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed binaries/tools are installed (i.e. on package upgrade) and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rejig dash-static to Require(pre): setup. This should ensure things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed properly (I think - although not sure how this will affect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initial transaction split...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any other/better thoughts?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rewrite glibc scriptlets in lua instead of sh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua">http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The glibc scriptlets don't seem to really *need* dash-static anyway...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# rpm -q --scripts glibc| grep dash
+</I>&gt;<i> preinstall scriptlet (using /usr/bin/dash.static):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it's only the preinst script. That should be trivial to rewrite in lua.
+</I>
+No as %post is indeed run wih glibc-post-wrapper as interpreter...
+But glibc-post-wrapper uses ash.static after running ldconfig...
+So %post should be done in lua too, and thus glibc-post-wrapper should
+be run from within lua instead of being the %post script interpreter
+
+&gt;<i> OK, so that does avoid the loop, but....... should we still try to work
+</I>&gt;<i> out a nice way to get &quot;setup&quot; (and thus the default groups that packages
+</I>&gt;<i> may use) installed early or is it just a housekeeping job to make sure
+</I>&gt;<i> packages Require(pre) setup package if they want to use the users
+</I>&gt;<i> defined in it?
+</I>
+I would say the later but it's obvious it's prone to error, so maybe making it
+be installed early with filesystem &amp; glibc (thus having one bigger transaction
+at first).
+Which is not appealing but can be an acceptable solution.
+On the other hand, &quot;Anything not packaged as root.root should requires setup&quot;
+is a bit obviouslyoverkill...
+
+&gt;<i> Perhaps we could add some kind of rpmfilter thingy to automatically add
+</I>&gt;<i> this Require(pre)? Is that possible?
+</I>
+I suppose it's supposed to do in rpm-setup.
+However that will make more requires to process by urpmi and thus
+bigger synthesis.
+
+&gt;<i> If so then it might also be
+</I>&gt;<i> possible to write similar automatic Require(pre,post,etc) to packages
+</I>&gt;<i> using rpm-helper stuff too... that would be be quire nice and reduce the
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging burden :)
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