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+ <B>PhilippeDidier</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 31 21:01:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, PhilippeDidier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We are not going to carry faac just for convenience to build
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> applications locally. Handbrake, another application that supposedly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needs faac, is also GPL licensed so cannot be distributed linked against
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> faac. Arista in mageia supports encoding AAC without faac.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Audiokonverter appears to use mplayer for encoding so it should be able
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to use ffmpeg for AAC. Anything else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You're wrong about audiokonverter :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it uses faac to encode into *.aac files
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know what .aac files are (format), will check.
+</I>That's compressed audio files (for ipod for instance)
+That's also the audiotrack format for MPEG4
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I proposed the two patches to have it in Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Saw that in the bugreport (:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> About Arista :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried Arista to create an *.aac file : it complains about missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> elements...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you really create *.aac files ? or did you only read what it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supposed to do.
+</I>&gt;<i> I only tried to transcode video with aac audio track, not audio only.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Do you mean transcode video with aac audio track into other format
+(that's already allowed, thanks to faad provided by Mageia)
+or transcode an existing video (with mp3 audio track for instance) into
+video with aac audio track (that is not allowed with Mageia2 whichever
+software you use : avidemux, vlc, mencoder, gstreamer, ffmpeg)
+&gt;&gt;<i> Arista uses gstreamer... and, in Mageia, gstreamer-plugins in tainted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are built without faac, I wonder what is missing on my computer to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> able to do what you did !!!
+</I>&gt;<i> libavcodec from tainted and gstreamer-ffmpeg/gstreamer-libav
+</I>&gt;<i> - this depends on libvo-aacenc
+</I>&gt;<i> + arista 0.9.7-4
+</I>
+So you use cauldron ;)
+
+Mageia2 has arista 0.9.7.2
+I have too libavcodec from tainted, libvo-aaenc, gstreamer-ffmpeg (can't
+find any gstreamer-libav on Mageia2)
+Is the new built gstreamer on cauldron allowing to create mp4 or aac
+files now ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> About Cinelerra and Handbrake : everything is GPL licensed except the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ISO specification they need to be built ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provided as bundled in hanbrake (reason why it was banned from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-tainted)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and required as BuildRequire : faac-devel for cinelerra, preventing to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build it for Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And Yes absolutely there's a contamination with a non-free source (how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the hell an ISO MPEG4 norma could be GPL ?!!!! )
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK it's code, not the standard itself
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Christiaan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Perhaps Cauldron provides something now for this aac encoding problem...
+that's good news for Mageia3
+but I will have to wait and see : I must use the stable Mageia2 on my
+everyday computer... (with some workarounds ;) ) until Mageia3 appears
+
+Regards
+
+Philippe
+
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