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+ <B>PhilippeDidier</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 31 20:00:23 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 31/10/2012 12:57, Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 31/10/2012 10:23, Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Given the importance of this package for several multimedia-related
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> software (it is a mandatory dependency for cinerella, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instance), I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> think it's time
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have a cinelerra source rpm that builds against cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ffmpeg?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And we can build it without AAC encoding support I think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No. Otherwise, I wouldn't have opened this painful discussion again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Isn't cinelerra licensed under the GPLv2+, which means we are not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> allowed to distribute binaries linked against a non-free library? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> looks like the faac discussion is not painful but completely useless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wasn't aware of such kind of restriction, but it reminds me of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> similar cases in the past. Anyway, faac isn't only used for cinelerra,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and even if we can't distribute it, having one less ancestor to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rebuild manually is still a gain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are not going to carry faac just for convenience to build
+</I>&gt;<i> applications locally. Handbrake, another application that supposedly
+</I>&gt;<i> needs faac, is also GPL licensed so cannot be distributed linked against
+</I>&gt;<i> faac. Arista in mageia supports encoding AAC without faac.
+</I>&gt;<i> Audiokonverter appears to use mplayer for encoding so it should be able
+</I>&gt;<i> to use ffmpeg for AAC. Anything else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Christiaan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You're wrong about audiokonverter :
+it uses faac to encode into *.aac files
+I proposed the two patches to have it in Mageia:
+one to build it without using lame and faac for core repo (patent
+problem for both of them)
+one to build it with using lame but without using faac for tainted repo
+(as soon as faac is not provided)
+NB for my personal use I packaged audiokonverter without patch, and
+installed faac from blogdrake's repo !
+
+
+About Arista :
+I tried Arista to create an *.aac file : it complains about missing
+elements...
+Could you really create *.aac files ? or did you only read what it is
+supposed to do.
+Arista uses gstreamer... and, in Mageia, gstreamer-plugins in tainted
+are built without faac, I wonder what is missing on my computer to be
+able to do what you did !!!
+
+
+About Cinelerra and Handbrake : everything is GPL licensed except the
+ISO specification they need to be built ...
+provided as bundled in hanbrake (reason why it was banned from
+Mageia-tainted)
+ and required as BuildRequire : faac-devel for cinelerra, preventing to
+build it for Mageia
+
+And Yes absolutely there's a contamination with a non-free source (how
+the hell an ISO MPEG4 norma could be GPL ?!!!! )
+For example : is UTF8 GPL ? is ISO-8859 GPL : nevertheless you use these
+nonGPL specifications to read this thread in your webbrowser)
+
+
+I don't know actually how to create *.aac files or *.mp4 files with
+Mageia... if you help me I will be happy...
+
+Philippe
+
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