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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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(Not that I recommend it.) +That would probably make it trickier to ensure that free/open source +packages without distribution constraints don't contain non-free or +contrained dependancies, as well as more confusing for users, but that +doesn't affect the package names. + +Currently you might notice that some packages in tainted contain +"tainted" after mga* (in the revision part of the full package name), +and with a corresponding package in core with the same name except +without the word "tainted". That is one way to deal with packages +with/without tainted components. +Something similar has been done in a few cases to distinguish +free/nonfree versions of a package. + +Personnally, I would favour putting "tainted" or "nonfree" (or rather an +abbreviated form, say "[nf]" or "[tnt]") at the end of the main part of +the package name. +(We could even do this for those packages without free/nonfree or +free/tainted versions.) +By putting this in the main part of the package name, there will never +be something like a tainted package replacing a core package during +updates, which can happen now. We could use the provides keyword to +allow the user to select which type of a particular package they prefer. + +A nice secondary effect of this, if we do this for all non-free and +tainted packages, is that wherever we place the package file, the name +indicates its' category. Without having to look inside. We could even +have the build system automatically adding such tags. +It would make it easier for confirmed free-only or unconstrained-only +users to avoid unwanted packages. + +><i> If we can't satisfy everybody, we have to choose who must be satisfied, +</I>><i> and why !... +</I> +But we can ... almost :) + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="019637.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="019644.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#19640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#19640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#19640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#19640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |