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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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If you land it there we will cause +</I>>><i> problems for some mirrors and that is a no-go option. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If you want to vote then we can vote between those options: +</I>>><i> - land it in 'tainted' +</I>>><i> - it remains excluded +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My vote goes to tainted. Yes, non-free and free packages will be mixed +</I>>><i> but most users would vote for including it. Free software lovers can +</I>>><i> just avoid it. They should be better informed than normal user anyway. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Sander +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I vote for tainted. I like Colin's idea too though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Claire +</I>><i> +</I>I vote for tainted too ... + +It is quite simple for faac and handbrake and cinerella (both absolutely +needing faac) : +They may be provided in tainted with some information in URPMI telling +that they contain a basis (MPEG4 standard) that is not opensource, even +if everything else in their source is GPL or LGPL... so that opensource +exclusive users may choose not to install them, and other users are not +afraid with this information...) + +There's a patent problem for them ... mirror admins may choose to +provide or not the tainted repo in their country. and users may choose +to use a foreign country repo if they want not to respect the local +law... ;) + + + +It is a little more complex for avidemux, mplayer (the mencoder part of +it) libquicktime, gstreamer ... for them faac is an option + +Now they are provided in core (built without option leading to patent +problems) and in tainted (built with options leading to patent problem +such as libdvdcss, lame, faad ...) +Every user has the choice to use or not patent encoumbered softwares +(this choice is only restricted by local laws) don't have to question if +they are opensource or not : they are ! + + +If faac is pushed into tainted +What to do with the "build with faac" option for vlc mplayer and others ? +1) - Build them all only with this option (plf choice) (excluding de +facto strict opensource users from some useful tainted other options !) + +2) -Build them once without this option (OK for strict users ) +- and build them a second time with this option ... informing +opensource strict users that it's not for them and others that this adds +the possibility to work on aac or mp4 files +(can the two versions coexist in the same repo ? need to give two +different names to them? modify the buildsystem? increases QA job ? ) + + + +A developers informal vote is perhaps not enough ... Need a poll ? +More than this, that concerns the QA team too and perhaps the Board : +perhaps some legal problem, even in France indeed, that we do not know!!! +I can't know if the fact that Fraunhofer (one of the authors of the +standard) provides a copyleft enhanced encoder is a good or a bad news +for the possibility to use freely faac --- I mean free as beer, until +everything is rewritten to be built upon fdk-aac instead of faac !) + +For Mageia4 the faac problem will certainly be closed, thanks to fdk-aac. + + + +Philippe + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="019169.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="019174.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#19173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#19173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#19173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#19173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |