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(no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Are%20you%20sure%3F%20%28no%20confirmation%20before%20proceeding%0A%20to%20selected%20packages%20installation%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCALVo_Bhvfyrbm_ZUv%2BG8iwXfHazvvodYpaDKJJS3LhLMHu96QA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri May 4 17:38:26 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015290.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015292.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#15291">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#15291">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#15291">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#15291">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 4 mai 2012 17:19, "Wolfgang Bornath" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> 2012/5/4 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Le 4 mai 2012 16:29, "Thomas Backlund" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>> a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> 04.05.2012 17:27, Thierry Vignaud skrev: +</I>><i> >> > On 4 May 2012 16:19, Felix Miata <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mrmazda at earthlink.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >> >> Mageia's installer has the same problem that bothers me in Mandriva. +</I>><i> >> >> The +</I>><i> >> >> type install screen with KDE vs Gnome vs custom has no intermediate +</I>><i> >> >> step +</I>><i> >> >> prior to the start of selected packages installation. Does this +</I>bother +><i> >> >> no +</I>><i> >> >> one else? +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > Too late to report. +</I>><i> >> > When people will cease to do ala Gael tests aka just before the +</I>final? +><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Well, only too late for mga2, but it can get on wishlist for mga3 +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> -- +</I>><i> >> Thomas +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Another case is when you install in the existing partitions and in the +</I>><i> > partitioning screen you choose the partitions, /, /home, etc, and you +</I>have +><i> > checked in the checkbox a partition to be formatted. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It seems very logical to me that in this step a confirmation is more +</I>than +><i> > usefull. +</I>><i> > Before a 2-3 years there was a brainstorm in mandriva and i had +</I>proposed the +><i> > usage of confirmation dialogues. I cannot find the link now, but the +</I>answers +><i> > that i got was like 'you click on OK so you have to be sure', 'no +</I>needed, +><i> > useless feature' etc. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If there will be a brainstorm in mageia, i would like to try to propose +</I>it +><i> > again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you think you will get a different result? Look at Microsoft. +</I>><i> People were so annoyed by all these "Are you sure" popups that +</I>><i> comedians started to refer to these popups in their standup sessions +</I>><i> ("Do you really want to use the brake pedal?"). AFAIR there hasn't +</I>><i> been such a popup at the situations you pointed to as long as +</I>><i> Mandrake/Mandriva existed. I haven't heard anybody complaining about +</I>><i> this (until today). +</I>><i> About the selection screens: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me the first selection screen (KDE - Gnome - Custom) serves the +</I>><i> new user who wants to get on with the installation without any +</I>><i> interactive stuff he would not know how to handle it. So the screen +</I>><i> presents 2 options which will get him a standard system with one +</I>><i> click. Everybody else is surely able to understand the word "Custom" +</I>><i> which opens the door to everything else. The next screen offers a +</I>><i> package selection which allows for installation of whole groups (or +</I>><i> non-installation). This same screen opens the door to the minimal +</I>><i> installation options (if you deselect all package groups). It also +</I>><i> shows the option "Individual package selection". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To me this is a logical procedure (one step following the selection of +</I>><i> the previous step). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course Mageia could put something like "Clicking OK will start the +</I>><i> installation" below the KDE and Gnome options or something similar. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> About the partitioning: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What exactly do you miss there (you have seen the "expert" button?) ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO there is nothing missing or at presented at the wrong state of +</I>><i> the installation procedure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I> +In the specific case i mentionned, there is a risc of loosing data, so i +think that it is usefull to prevent. Why you are informed when you switch +to expert mode in diskdrake? + +Twice i avoided to delete the /home partition. To prevent other users, in +the greek translation i add the 'formatting (delete data)' + +For "us" there is no risc. Because we install a system many times. The +scenario that i describe could happen if you do an installation for the +first time or if you are not used to do it often. + +Personaly i dont care, it is very clear for me, but i remember my first +time when i "felt" that a confirmation was missing. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20120504/2d1e4390/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015290.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015292.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? 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