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+ <B>Shlomi Fish</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:50:33 +0200
+Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; different client/server versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; well how this game works.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IINM we have some kind of exception regarding games for their client/server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; relation regarding updates vs backports? if so, then perhaps we could have the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; same policy wrt updates to version freeze?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we do. Version policy (i.e. no-new-versions-in-updates policy) has
+</I>&gt;<i> an exception for &quot;Software that is version-bound to an online service
+</I>&gt;<i> (games, virus scanners?) and will only work with the latest version.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This doesn't 100% fit xonotic, though, as online play doesn't *require*
+</I>&gt;<i> a specific version. However, as it does impede the online playing
+</I>&gt;<i> experience and (AFAIU) online-play is a significant part of xonotic, I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> side on the 'update' verdict here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do other people think regarding this aspect?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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